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macof: When I say Christianity is a religion for fools I mean it in all sincerity

Pagan religions don't have a piece of compiled paper

Paganism is in the heart, it is what you know being a member of that community.

Why publish a book when you expect everyone in the village to know this.

Paganism has no intention for evangelism, pagans don't lie about their religions, it is always as it has been from the beginning

So coming to defend the lie and Fraud which your masters have made for you by requesting for a paganic holy book is stupidity


You think the Bible is more authentic than the history books and oral history of the Persians and Romans.

The Bible is nothing more than the writing of men.

Nothing special, it's no different from any book written by Homers on Greek history

You are very saucy, untrained and uncultured. You must have come from an irresponsible family background. Can you call your father a fool? Is that the teaching of islam. You are not worth to be on this site.

donroxy: and how much substance does your allegation on Gabriel,Mohammed,Qoran and Kaaba Possessed !!!

It is even quite difficult for you to use your brain to discovered you made an allegation that lacks substance not even discovering U questions are Rhetoric !!!


I bet You never know the meaning of Substance ..... And I pray I'm not dealing with a confused fellow here !!!


Tis gonna be sweet here !!!

There is something common to muslims -VIOLENCE, either by abusing or outright murder. This is because islam started on a violent note. Gabriel almost killed Muhammad thrice before he started his false revelations.

I put it to you that Kaaba and other islamic rituals done in Mecca did not originate from Abraham and Ishmael because the duo never went near Mecca.

God declared Isaac was Abraham's only son meaning he (Abraham) had been separated from Ishmael by God:

Genesis 22:2
And he (God) said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest and get thee into the land of Moriah and offer him for a burnt offering.........

Thine only son Isaac shows that Ishmael was no longer Abraham's son as far as God is concerned. How would the same God tell Abraham and Ishmael He had separated by Himself to build a house for Him? Impossible. Satan is a liar.

Kaaba was a centre built by idolaters, which the muslims highjacked. And this shows the type of spirit Gabriel is. It is not your fault, the scale of satanic deception must first fall of from your eyes before you can see spiritual things as they really are.

The true God's Gabriel told Mary:

Luke 1:35
And the angel (Gabriel) answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called THE SON OF GOD.

It was not man who decided to call Jesus Son of God. It was God. This event happened so many years before islam and was not said in opposition to it as it never existed.

Now tell me, can you say it was the same Mary's Gabriel who came to Muhammad to deny what he said before that God doesn't have a Son?

And actually when Jesus was born he did what only a Son of God could do and the Devil was not happy about it. He came with his own message. He appointed his prophet from the lineage of a cast-out Ishmael, who God had no covenant of prophethood with.

May God open your eyes to see and accept the truth.

@ OP

There is nothing to show that your writeup about those religions you are comparing with Christianity is authentic.

You cannot just copy and paste from the internet the story of people one cannot vouch for their integrity and you expect us to believe them.

Can you show us the Books of those religions, the authors, the Chapter and Verse and so on that point to your assertions? I mean we have the Bible for the Christians and quran for the muslims, what is their own?

macof: Every religion is established on paganism

Christianity is established on Mithraism and Judaism.

Judaism is established on Semitism


And you think because a religion is pagan it means they worship devil- you are really lacking in knowledge.

A advise you research and speak to Romans and Jews ask questions about the origin of Christianity which the Bible couldn't tell

It is incumbent upon you to prove how Christianity was founded on Mithraism and Semitism.

It is not enough to make an allegation, you must be able to substantiate it.

donroxy: Excuse me Mr. I too sabi .... !!!

Why does average christian discriminate Moses and Jews ... Despite Jesus claiming He never condemned the old-law .... !!!


Why does Average Christain delimit what transpires in Old-testament as that of Moses in a derogatory and discriminatory manner and elevate the word of Jesus as if ,Jesus Never approves of Old-Testament ?


Why do Jew/Judahism fails to respect Christians and are element of derisions even in Isreal/Jerusalem till tommorrow ?


Why Catholics,Anglican among other protesteriats and why are the condemning one-another when their symbol is just Jesus Christ ? (Such also occur in Islam) ?


Why do we have many denominations of and each claiming my way is superior ?




Your answer shall definitely lead to further questions ..... Oya,lets do this !!!

Your response is not an answer to what you quoted me as saying.

Answer me first and am more than ready to give appropriate answers to yours.

Emusan: After a lot of allegation against Bible I.e
Bible is not from God but was written by men
Bible contains a lot of error.
Original Bible scripts have lost. And many more! Your author can still went ahead to made this statement/conclusion:

the last phrase "...where the Bible contradicts itself" I know it was purposelly added to clear Quran from sharing in Bible contradicted verses as the Author claimed and you also can't read the full measage but quickly come here and exposed your fish brain. SMH

I will advise people to checkout the purpose of the site and compare it with the conclusion part.

My brother

The source of the quran is questionable.

Muhammad was a man who grew to know the religion of his parents, Muttalib and AbduAllah who were pagans. He had no knowledge of the true God.

Who is Gabriel, who revealed to him something similar if not the same things his parents were doing in worshiping their god: the Kaaba and what they do inside it? It shows islam is a continuation of the religion of his parents.

Who is the Gabriel who pretended to be God's angel but established islam on the foundation of paganism and deny Jesus true identity?

macof: Christianity is even worse.

A religion that has nothing to base on.

A Jew performs miracles, his disciples proclaim him God, you all worship him.

Dumb humans.

These Abrahamic religions are for those who lack sense.

You compare Islam to pure holy paganism like Hinduism, you must be an illiterate to call Buddhism pagan.

You really lack sense, I wonder why Seun has not found a way of curbing the fast raisin level of dumb comments.

You know nothing about God, Satan or Religions if you do this post would not be this lacking in intelligence

Why are you so hot? Calm down. Or are you a member of Boko Haram?

Anyway abuse is better than bombing for allah.

Islam, Hinduism, Buddism all lead to allah but Jesus is the way to the true God. Thank you.

MZmuaz: ISLAM the fastest growing religious in entire world , from 1934-1984 (50yrs),it has recorded 274 % growing . It is time to look beyound our noise and stop swallowing anything from media

People love darkness more than light.

macof: SENSELESS

Things of the spirit are senseless to the carnal man.

There is no basis for comparing the Bible with the quran. It is like comparing God with Satan.

The quran came through Muhammad who knew nothing about God and was deceived by Satan who pretended to be God.

Islam is similar to Hinduism, Buddism, religions known to be paganism. Satan is worshiped the same way under any religion name.

frosbel: Your ALLAH must be one weak dude to let weaklings fight for him , he can't even defend his people in Somalia, Iraq, Syria, Libya etc.

Besides you need defending from among yourselves the most.

Who is this allah who is ever trying hard to pollute the Gospel of Jesus?

Those who believe the quran as the word of God are those who are not spiritually sound and lack the knowledge of how the Devil operates. One could have a degree in religious education but yet lack the knowledge of the true identity of Satan.

The manner the quran was revealed was inconsistent with how God do speak to His prophets:

Nuumber 1

Narrated 'Aisha:
The commencement of the Divine Inspiration to Allah's Apostle was in the form of good righteous (true) dreams in his sleep. He never had a dream but that it came true like bright day light. He used to go in seclusion (the cave of) Hira where he used to worship(Allah Alone) continuously for many (days) nights. He used to take with him the journey food for that (stay) and then come back to (his wife) Khadija to take his food like-wise again for another period to stay, till suddenly the Truth descended upon him while he was in the cave of Hira. The angel came to him in it and asked him to read. The Prophet replied, "I do not know how to read." (The Prophet added), "The angel caught me (FORCEFULLY) AND PRESSED ME SO HARD THAT I COULD NOT BEAR IT ANY MORE. He then released me and again asked me to read, and I replied, "I do not know how to read," WHEREUPON HE CAUGHT ME AGAIN AND PRESSED ME THE SECOND TIME TILL I COULD NOT BEAR IT ANYMORE. [/b]He then released me and asked me again to read, but again I replied, "I do not know how to read (or, what shall I read?)." THEREUPON HE CAUGHT ME FOR THE THIRD TIME AND PRESSED ME and then released me and said, "Read: In the Name of your Lord, Who has created (all that exists). Has created man from a clot. Read and Your Lord is Most Generous...up to..... ..that which he knew not." (96.15). [b]Sahih Bukhari Volume 9, Book 87, Number 111.

We can see that Gabriel tortured Muhammad thrice for his inability to do what he was incapable of doing. The true God will never torture any of His prophets to be sent good tidings as it happened to Muhammad.

Number 2.

Muhammad's manner of receiving the quranic revelations shows it could not be from the true God:

Narrated 'Aisha: (the mother of the faithful believers)
Al-Harith bin Hisham asked Allah's Apostle "O Allah's Apostle! How is the Divine Inspiration revealed to you?" Allah's Apostle replied, "Sometimes it is (revealed) like the ringing of a bell, this form of Inspiration is the hardest of all and then this state passes ' off after I have grasped what is inspired. Sometimes the Angel comes in the form of a man and talks to me and I grasp whatever he says." 'Aisha added: Verily I saw the Prophet being inspired Divinely on a very cold day and noticed the Sweat dropping from his forehead (as the Inspiration was over). Sahih Al-Bukhari: Volume 1, Book 1, Number 2:

There is no hard way of receiving God's true revelations.


Narrated Said bin Jubair:
Ibn 'Abbas in the explanation of the Statement of Allah. 'Move not your tongue concerning (the Quran) to make haste therewith." (75.16) Said "Allah's Apostle used to bear the revelation with great trouble and used to move his lips (quickly) with the Inspiration." Ibn 'Abbas moved his lips saying, "I am moving my lips in front of you as Allah's Apostle used to move his." Said moved his lips saying: "I am moving my lips, as I saw Ibn 'Abbas moving his." Ibn 'Abbas added, "So Allah revealed 'Move not your tongue concerning (the Qur'an) to make haste therewith. It is for us to collect it and to give you (O Muhammad) the ability to recite it (the Qur'an) (75.16-17) which means that Allah will make him (the Prophet ) remember the portion of the Qur'an which was revealed at that time by heart and recite it. The Statement of Allah: And 'When we have recited it to you (O Muhammad through Gabriel) then you follow its (Qur'an) recital' (75.18) means 'listen to it and be silent.' Then it is for Us (Allah) to make It clear to you' (75.19) means 'Then it is (for Allah) to make you recite it (and its meaning will be clear by itself through your tongue). Afterwards, Allah's Apostle used to listen to Gabriel whenever he came and after his departure he used to recite it as Gabriel had recited it." Sahih Al-Bukhari: Volume 1, Book 1, Number 4:

None of God's true prophets was receiving revelations with GREAT TROUBLE.


Narrated Safwan bin Ya'la bin Umaiya from his father who said:
"A man came to the Prophet while he was at Ji'rana. The man was wearing a cloak which had traces of Khaluq or Sufra (a kind of perfume). The man asked (the Prophet), 'What do you order me to perform in my 'Umra?' So, Allah inspired the Prophet divinely and he was screened by a place of cloth. I wished to see the Prophet being divinely inspired. 'Umar said to me, 'Come! Will you be pleased to look at the Prophet while Allah is inspiring him?' I replied in the affirmative. 'Umar lifted one corner of the cloth and I looked at the Prophet who was snoring. (The sub-narrator thought that he said: The snoring was like that of a camel). When that state was over, the Prophet asked, "Where is the questioner who asked about 'Umra? Put off your cloak and wash away the traces of Khaluq from your body and clean the Sufra (yellow color) and perform in your Umra what you perform in your Hajj (i.e. the Tawaf round the Ka'ba and the Sa'i between Safa and Marwa). " Sahih Al-Bukhari: Volume 3, Book 27, Number 17

God's prophets didn't deep sleep ands snore like camel to receive God's revelations.

Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah:
When the Ka'ba was rebuilt, the Prophet and 'Abbas went to carry stones. 'Abbas said to the Prophet "(Take off and) put your waist sheet over your neck so that the stones may not hurt you." (But as soon as he took off his waist sheet) he fell unconscious on the ground with both his eyes towards the sky. When he came to his senses, he said, "My waist sheet! My waist sheet!" Then he tied his waist sheet (round his waist). Sahih Al-Bukhari: Volume 5, Book 58, Number 170:

God does not speak to His prophets when they were unconscious. They hear God's words live and declare it to the people.


In conclusion, going by the way the quran was revealed and the worship of allah the same way pagans were doing before islam, it is evidently clear that quran is not the word of the true God.

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One would expect the muslims who visit this section to say something or stop deceiving themselves.

FOLYKAZE: Oh my!!! This is wield.

Morality of this news: when take pride in your atheistic stance among religious psycho.

Some people dont know how to express themselves without hurting belief or others. It is like an atheist going to saudi to tell them mohamed is false and Allah doesn't exist. This easily spark brutal attack on the atheist.

We should learn how to rub mind with religious folks no matter what. Respect and patience covers alot. Thanks

You are confirming every muslim is a potential killer. Islam is indeed a religion of peace. High hypocrisy.