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EzioAuditore:
Wow! Tell me more!

EzioAuditore:
This is full hadith

Bukhari Volume 5, Book 59, Number 643: Narrated Qais:

Jarir said "Allah's Apostle said to me, "Won't you relieve me from Dhul-Khalasa?" I replied, "Yes, (I will relieve you)." So I proceeded along with one-hundred and fifty cavalry from Ahmas tribe who were skillful in riding horses. I used not to sit firm over horses, so I informed the Prophet of that, and he stroke my chest with his hand till I saw the marks of his hand over my chest and he said, O Allah! Make him firm and one who guides others and is guided (on the right path).' Since then I have never fallen from a horse. Dhul-l--Khulasa was a house in Yemen belonging to the tribe of Khatham and Bajaila, and in it there were idols which were worshipped, and it was called Al-Ka'ba." Jarir went there, burnt it with fire and dismantled it. When Jarir reached Yemen, there was a man who used to foretell and give good omens by casting arrows of divination. Someone said to him. "The messenger of Allah's Apostle is present here and if he should get hold of you, he would chop off your neck." One day while he was using them (i.e. arrows of divination), Jarir stopped there and said to him, "Break them (i.e. the arrows) and testify that None has the right to be worshipped except Allah, or else I will chop off your neck." So the man broke those arrows and testified that none has the right to be worshipped except Allah. Then Jarir sent a man called Abu Artata from the tribe of Ahmas to the Prophet to convey the good news (of destroying Dhu-l-Khalasa). So when the messenger reached the Prophet, he said, "O Allah's Apostle! By Him Who sent you with the Truth, I did not leave it till it was like a scabby camel." Then the Prophet blessed the horses of Ahmas and their men five times.



It is mentioned in Commentary of Sahih Bukhari Vol 5 Page 576 by Muhammad Dawud Raaz (Rah)(Markazi Jamiyat Ahlul hadeeth hind)

Prophet (peace be upon him) said this for house of an idol because in (Dhul khalsa) Kuffar and Polytheists made conspiracies against Islam, They made plans how to harm Prophet Kareem (peace be upon him)... They showed their enemity against Islam in every way, So to make the environment peaceful this was necessary. Islam never orders to dismantle the places of worship of other Religion and Nations in the time of Peace, During the time of Umar (RadhiAllahanho), He saved Churches of Dhimmi (one with whom we have a contract or treaty) Jews and Christians.(end quote)




At least he gave him a chance, but according to your bible, Moses just went around like a mad man killing women and children.

EzioAuditore:
I quoted from the bible, and you said I should go and join isil, is that what your bible teaches?

EzioAuditore:
Lol! You will forever remain a foool! But read this,

“ [The] Arabs will hear how we marched forth and of our mighty gathering, and they will stand in awe of us forever. ”
—Abu Jahl



313 vs 950 and the prophet still made this promise


Behold! Allah Promised Me that He would definitely help me. I'm taking an oath by Allah's Excellent Name, Here will be the grave of Abu Jahl, and here will lay Utba ibn Rabiah (Prophet mentioned 14 different unbeliever leaders' names and signed they graves before the battle). ”
—Muhammad - Sahih Muslim

They were all found in those exact places, is this not another miracle?

EzioAuditore:
But I'm not a Christian. You worship Kratos, the God of war. Lmao!

EzioAuditore:
But I thought Muhammad can't be a prophet because he went to war with the Meccans that attacked him?

EzioAuditore:
EXO 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.

truthman2012:
One thing is certain and undisputable: muslims are satanic. If they don't have access to kill their opponents, they will curse or abuse them.

I have listened to islamic clerics on cassettes and radio, most of their sermon statements are cursing and abusing others.

Muhammad on his dying bed cursed the Jews. He started and ended quranic revelations with curses:

Quran 111:1-5] The power of Abu Lahab will perish, and he will perish.

His wealth and gains will not exempt him.

He will be plunged in flaming Fire,

And his wife, the wood-carrier,

Will have upon her neck a halter of palm-fibre

Is this not enouh to show islam is from the Devil?

Quran is said to be words of allahh alone, then why should God be so bitter with a man and could do nothing to him other than curses? Why is he so powerless?

Go to Christian assemblies, no preacher can be found abusing or cursing people in the name of preaching. Never.

The bible says we shall know them by their fruits.

Abuamam:
You are confused? It must be your 'holy' spirit that is possessing you. Cast it out.

Allah is the Almighty. He can swear by Himself; as Lord of the Easts and Wests; or He can swear by any thing of His creation that He wishes. He cannot be held to any account.

malvisguy212:
What, is every man of them eager to
be admitted to a Garden of Bliss? Not
so; for We have created them of
what they know. No! I SWEAR by the
Lord of the Easts and Wests, surely
We are able to substitute a better
than they; We shall not be
outstripped. S. 70:38-41

Notice just how confusing this is. Allah
swears by the Lord of the easts and
wests, says that he will seek no other
judge besides God and that he gave the
book that Muhammad’s Lord sent down!

http://answeringislam.org/Quran/Miracle/not_so_eloquent.html

truthman2012:
allahh told Muhammad to tell the Jews and Christians who rejected islam that what they (Jews and Christians) worshiped (Yahweh) was not him (allahh).

[Quram 109:1-6 YusufAli]

Say : O ye that reject Faith!

I worship not that which ye worship,

Nor will ye worship that which I worship.

And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship,

Nor will ye worship that which I worship.

To you be your Way, and to me mine.

Since allahh is not Yahweh, the known God of the past prophets, it is correct to say he is an Arabian idol.

Abuamam:
More of what? Your personal attestations of falsehood? I don't know in which of your dreams you saw all these 'proofs'. I suggest you wake up to reality.

"Say o unbelievers. I worship not that which you worship. Nor do you worship That which I worship. Nor will I worship that which you used to worship. Nor do you worship That which I worship.
To you is your faith, and to me is mine..."Quran 109:1-6

So I say to you, o truthman2012 the unbeliever...

I worship not that which you worship (the trinity of idolatory)

Nor do you worship That which I worship (the One Almighty, Indivisible, Unbegotten, Unique, the Merciful with the power to forgive without any human sacrifice)

Nor will I worship that which you used to worship (Mithras, Osiris and the percusors of the Jesus-is-God myth)

Nor do you worship That which I worship (For there is no Deity worthy of worship except Allah).

To you is your faith (of slavery and obeisance to shepherds, pastors and cattle rearers or whatever), and to me is mine, (of discipleship and obeisance to the Will of the One true God Alone).

Thank you for your time. I pray that the light of the Almighty penetrates your hardened heart; as it did mine.

Abuamam:
Sighhh. What is the difference between do not approach and keep away! And where did you get the claim that he was even fasting? Lol.

I understand that you really NEED Islam to be wrong so that you can continue to be convinced of the righteousness of your chosen profession of tithe collection, but you REALLY need to be less obssessed. It is making you irrational. Move on bro.

Alternatively, learn Arabic, so you can bash Muslims without making a fool of yourself. Any 10year old Arabic-speaking child can point out the meaning of this verse, and I truly mean that.

tartar9:
what are you typing,what disgusting thing?am I talking of canceling adoption

Abuamam:
Deliverance from light? No tnx. I have tasted of your way, it is a path of slavery and destruction. Islam has taught me how to live in contentment with my environment.

Abuamam:
Deliverance from light? No tnx. I have tasted of your way, it is a path of slavery and destruction. Islam has taught me how to live in contentment with my environment.

tartar9:
since you can't see it,let me repost a former reply I made;
"wonder where you got your 'Intimate feeling' from
the Holy Prophet(SAW) didnt just 'desire' to marry
Zainab(RA) it was ordered by Allah(SA) Himself
and good thing you said 'adopted' infact,that's
the main reason why Allah(SA) ordered the
marriage in the first place to cancel out by the
most practical example the superstitious belief of
the Arabs who even held their adopted children as
if there related by blood"

Abuamam:
Follow your own advice for the above rant...

Abuamam:
You are a small girl; believe me. The only thing you have got going for you on NL is that you don't reason. I stated it to remind YOU of Who we Muslims worship.



1. Circumnabulation is an act of worship. It is done round the Kaaba, because it is our Qibla; the focal point to which we direct our daily prayers. If the Hindus have a similar custom, then I can only commend them on perhaps retaining a memory of part of the true religion of Islam that they were taught through the prophets previously sent to them by the Almighty; and exhorting them to accept the total way of life brought by the final prophet of Islam (saw).

2. The Kaaba cloth is known as the Qiswah not hijab. It is a mere cloth used to protect the Kaaba from the elements; for the Kaaba is mere built up stones and subject to the elements. It has been of different colours through the ages, it is only black in current times. No Muslim ever thought of the Kaaba as a 'woman'. Only a bigoted xtian could have invented such stupidity.

3. Again rephrase your question without insults. I do not know of any 'dirty' black stone. The only 'dirt' I percieve around here is in your heart.

4. We bow to Allah alone. The Kaaba is the focal point or direction to which we turn when we pray; which previously was the mosque of the prophet Sulaiman (as) in Jerusalem. Had the Kaaba been an idol which we worship as you claim, the prophet (saw) would not have previously prayed facing Jerusalem.

Idolatory is worshipping Jesus as a god; when he passed to this world through a woman's privates, ate, drank, shat and pissed, and even DIED according to you... High above all these activities is the Almighty. It is also taking your pastors as gods beside Allah; serving them; taking their whims and caprices above God's laws; to the extent of obeying them when they tell you to eat grass, drink petrol, or commit adultery with them; to the extent of carrying their pregnancies, with your foolish husbands' consent. That is idolatory.

tartar9:
why didn't you complete the hadith

tartar9:
and which one havnt i answered? have answered them all

tartar9:
so you now declare what's fabricated or not simple because it exposes your lies.and I mentioned the reason for their marriage earlier.

true2god:
Abraham, Hagar and Ishmael Movement to Mecca Ibn Abbas narrated:

"... Ibrahim brought her (Hajrah) and her son, Ismail while she was suckling him, to a place near the Kaaba under a tree on the spot of Zam-Zam, at the highest place in the mosque. During those days there was nobody in Makkah, nor was there any water. So he made them sit over there and placed near them a leather bag containing some dates, and a small water-skin containing some water, and set out homeward. [/b]Ismail's mother followed him saying: "O Ibrahim! [b]Where are you going, leaving us in this valley where there is no person whose company we may enjoy, nor is there anything (to enjoy)? "She repeated that to him many times, but he did not look back at her. Then she asked him: "Has Allah ordered you to do so?" He said: "Yes". She said: "Then He will not neglect us." and she returned (to her child) while Ibrahim proceeded on his way. On reaching the Thaniya (mountain) where they could not see him, Ibrahim faced the Kaaba, and raising both hands, invoked Allah saying the following prayer: "O our Lord! I have made some of my offspring to dwell in a valley without cultivation, by Thy Sacred House; in order, O our Lord, that they may establish regular Prayer: so fill the hearts of some among men with love towards them, and feed them with fruits: so that they may give thanks." [Surah Ibrahim 14 :37]..." [Sahih Bukhari Book# 55, Hadith# 583]

The salient points here are:
1. Abraham led Hagai and her son, Ishmael to Mecca and went back to Israel by allahh's order without looking back. At that time there was nobody, no building, nothing was on ground. Since Abraham left immediately without looking back by Allah's order, how can it be justified that he stayed there to build Kaaba. He had to stay there to be able to build Kaaba because Ishmael who joined him in the building was still sucking at the time.

2. Abraham could not have gone back to Mecca, having been ordered by allahh not to look back.

3. Quran confirms there was no messenger in Mecca prior to the coming of Muhammad: But We had not given them Books which they could study, nor sent messengers to them before thee as Warners ([Quran 34:44]).

It means Abraham was a prophet (messenger), not in Arabia but Israel. Therefore Kaaba could not have built by Abraham who was not there, but Meccan pagans for their idols. Why did Muhammad convert it to house of alllahh if he (allahh) was not an idol.

tartar9:
quote the authentic ones then

mustymatic:
And things like this not in tge Bible?

RoyPCain:
the work/effort of shaytan is weak. inna kayda shaytani kaana daifah; 4/76. indeed the above is effort of shaytan and it only lead to perilous end. let just agree that there was a lust, is that a sin, since there was no action taken to make husband divorce his wife? if the reality is that there was no lust involved and God wished to cancel adoption in the matter it existed between zayd haritha [ra] and the prophet [sa] by how it happened what is the crying about it for?


muslims still adopt. the best form of adoption is to let the child keep the name of his blood and let them know each other. why isolate the child from the womb and the fluid that bore him? why deprive the parents the joy of knowing their son is in good hands, safe and secure? neither zayd nor zaynab [ra to each] is bent out of shape as you are here 1,400 years after the fact. if either of the ex[es] felt anything evil in what happened, that one would have left islam. but neither left islam. in fact, each is hopeful in mercy of Allah for being worshiper of God through the methodology given to the prophet [SA] and definitely each was head and shoulders and in the first class of people of guidance. and true people of guidance will enter paradise. amin.

onetrack:
I don't believe in the existence of Abraham. I think he's a mythical figure like Zeus or Sango. The Ka'aba was built by polytheists no more than a few hundred years before Muhammad, maybe even just a few decades before, and it was not the only such shrine in the Arabian peninsula.