Islam › Re: True Story About Muhammad's Marriage With Zaynab by truthman2012(op): 10:18pm On Apr 26, 2015 |
tartar9: " He was forced to divorce her because Muhammad was attracted by her beauty after seeing her unclothed" lmao do you think everyone is as ignorant as you,or you think you can accuse the Holy Prophet(SAW) the same way your lying bible accuses David (AS).first of all that your story is as false as your god.the Holy Prophet(SAW) proposed their marriage in the first place(this was after he became a Prophet not the other lie you said that it happened before he became Prophet).Zaid was a former slave and Zainab was of a noble heritage,this was actually the main reason why He(SAW) proposed the marriage "The Prophet was well aware that it is a person’s standing in the eyes of Allah that is important, rather than his or her status in the eyes of the people... their marriage would demonstrate that it was not who their ancestors were or social status,but rather their standing in the sight of Allah, that mattered." Zainab still didn't like the marriage to Zaid right from the onset because of this distinct social background of she coming from a noble family and Zaid being a former slave but she married him still out of respect to the Holy Prophet Muhammad,so problems was due to develop in their marriage which made Zaid consider divorce,and for your information he consulted with the Holy Prophet(SAW) and He(SAW) adviced him NOT to divorce her and bear with patience with her [b]"Keep your wife to yourself, and fear Allah." [/b]this finally seals and nullifies your baseless claims.and also Zaid was faithful to the end and died as a matyr ( may Allah[SA] be pleased with him) Where did you get all these lies from? Give me an authentic hadith or quranic verse that supports your story. Since Muslisms do not have an answer to "why did Zaid divorce his wife?" islamic apologists have formulated lies to answer the question without authoritative backing. The truth is that Muhammad saw Zainab unclothed and was attracted by her beauty. I wonder why muslims could still try to defend Muhammad on women issue. What do you think would have happened when he was said to be given power for 40 women a day? How many wives did he have, may be 21. How would he be satisfied with 21 when he has power for 40? The next thing is to be looking for anything in skirt anywhere. What a prophet. The bold "keep your wife and fear allahh" How did allahh call Zainab Muhammad's wife as Zaid was yet to divorce her. Reading Quran 33:36-37, one will realize it was after that statement by allahh that divorce was quickly arranged. |
Islam › Re: True Story About Muhammad's Marriage With Zaynab by truthman2012(op): 10:00pm On Apr 26, 2015 |
Anas09: Mohammed saw a naked woman, another persons wife and lusted after her. Just hold on a while and think. What do u think would have happened to Zaid if he had refused to divorce Zainab? The poor guy has seen what Mohammed has done to others and quickly let go his lovely wife for the adultrous, depraved, degenerated, sex addicted, pervert of a false prophet. I shit on his name. I love this. |
Islam › Re: How Muhammad Was Violating The Quran With Impunity by truthman2012(op): 9:53pm On Apr 26, 2015 |
Empiree: Lol, it is already over 14oo years old Surviving by forcing people and beheading anyone who refuses to yield. Satanists [Bukhari 59:643] "Testify that none has the right to be worshipped except Allah, or else I will chop off your neck!" |
Islam › Re: How Muhammad Was Violating The Quran With Impunity by truthman2012(op): 9:44pm On Apr 26, 2015 |
Yes, allahh is a pagan god inside kaaba. Allah does not necessarily mean the true God among the Arabs. They called whatever idol they worshiped allahh (Quran 6:136). Mutaleb was a pagan who named his son Abdullai, meaning servant of allahh. He named his son after his own god, allahh. Was Mutaleb a believer in islam? No. His god was allahh (idol). This same idol, allahh Muhammad went to worship in Hira when islamic Gabriel appeared to him and told him that what he was worshiping was the truth. When did Mutaleb allahh (idol), which Muhammad was worshiping become the true God? |
Islam › Re: How Muhammad Was Violating The Quran With Impunity by truthman2012(op): 9:30pm On Apr 26, 2015 |
EzioAuditoreMuslims are liars. They are just like their god, allahh, a lying god. The lies you told here do not tally with common sense. How old are you? You lie like a baby. Cover your face in shame. Smh! you'd notice that most miracles by Muhammad he did on his own! No one asked him to! If he had done any miracles, no one would still accuse him of not doing any. Were people not there when he did the fictitious ones you lied about? How would he have done such a big thing and people would still be saying he did nothing? How would they still say he was not better than themselves. You are a shameless liars. the miracles regarding food and drink, splitting of the sun and repairing qatadas eye are undeniable miracles of Muhammad! He did all those and yet allahh said he could do no miracles. allah must be lying then. Quran 13: 07 “And the Unbelievers say: "Why is not a sign sent down to him from his Lord?" But thou art truly a warner, and to every people a guide.”Look at Muhammad who split the sun, when allahh said he gave no sign. Where did he get the power to do that? Unrepented liar. Miracles are not the power of a man, but can be performed by a prophet through the will of God, Which God? allahh who said Muhammad was not given a 'sign' but only a warner? Where are senses located? In your legs? why do you think Jesus is praying to God all the time? Where did Muhammad pray for miracles to happen? He knew his god has no power to do it. You muslims have had your senses manipulated. You never can reason fine unless you are delivered from the lying spirit, allahh. You are to be pitied. |
Islam › Re: True Story About Muhammad's Marriage With Zaynab by truthman2012(op): 7:37pm On Apr 26, 2015 |
tartar9: wonder where you got your 'erotic feeling' from the Holy Prophet(SAW) didnt just 'desire' to marry Zainab(RA) it was ordered by Allah(SA) Himself and good thing you said 'adopted' infact,that's the main reason why Allah(SA) ordered the marriage in the first place to cancel out by the most practical example the superstitious belief of the Arabs who even held their adopted children as if there related by blood. Shameless! Why should a supposed prophet of God hijack the wife of anybody, talkless of his subordinate. Smh! Up till now, no muslims have been able to say why Zaid divorced his wife, Zaynab. He was forced to divorce her because Muhammad was attracted by her beauty after seeing her unclothed. Then, allahh, an immoral god spoke from the pit of hell to support Muhammad adulterous ambition. Crap! |
Islam › Re: How Muhammad Was Violating The Quran With Impunity by truthman2012(op): 6:57pm On Apr 26, 2015 |
EzioAuditore: Lol! It appears english is your problem. If were to tell, you "I am ridiculing your religion so that you may see the truth, except if Allah wills" what does that mean? Does it mean God will definitely make you forget? Are you thinking at all? Now as to different verses, like I said, each verse was sent with appropriate actions suitable for the time or situation in question, I gave you an example. By thge way, you jumped the post I proved your bible claims jesus came from incest*, you also dodged the part about Muhammads miracles, and also about satan being an angel... I am really enjoying watching you use the rope a dope, it means you don't have answrrs to my questions, I'll keep that in mind. Again, very useful for da'awah. Muhammad's miracles? You have problem understanding simple things. I have proved to you he could not perform any miracles. If any muslims say Muhammad did miracles, it is either they are lying or allahh is. Allah says he didn't give Muhammad power for miracles, where did get one to do it? So many lies in islam. All along, the unbelievers asked Muhammad to perform a miracle so that they could believe. All they got in response was allahh saying: Quran 17: 90 They say: "We shall not believe in thee, until thou cause a spring to gush forth for us from the earth. Quran 17: 93 Say: "Glory to my Lord! Am I aught but a man,- a messenger?" Allah said Muhammad was a man, an ordinary man who could not perform miracles. People doubted Muhammad because they saw nothing extraordinary or miraculous in him. Quran 17: 94 And naught prevented mankind from believing when the guidance came unto them save that they said: Hath Allah sent a mortal as (His) messenger? People saw Muhammad was not supernatural Quran 25: 7 And they say: "What sort of a messenger is this, who eats food, and walks through the streets? Why has not an angel been sent down to him to give admonition with him? People saw Muhammad was an ordinary man. Quran 25: 8 "Or (Why) has not a treasure been bestowed on him, or why has he (not) a garden for enjoyment?" The wicked say: "Ye follow none other than a man bewitched." People saw Muhammad as an ordinary man who a magician bewitched and he became insane. But alla, kept telling them that Muhammad is just an ordinary man not an angel, meaning people should not expect miracles from him! Quran 17: 95 Say: Had there been in the earth angels walking about as settlers, We would certainly have sent down to them from the heaven an angel as a messenger. No one would demand from him miracles if he had already performed one Quran 15: 07 Why do you not bring to us the angels if you are of the truthful ones? That was people's question. Allah responded: Quran 15: 08 We send not the angels down except for just cause: if they came (to the ungodly), behold! no respite would they have! Quraishites kept asking for a sign or a miracle to believe and allahh kept saying that Muhammad is only a warner. Quran 13: 07 “And the Unbelievers say: "Why is not a sign sent down to him from his Lord?" But thou art truly a warner, and to every people a guide.” If Muhammad have done any miracles, allahh would not have said: Quran 2: 3 Their hearts toying as with trifles. The wrong-doers conceal their private counsels, (saying), "Is this (one) more than a man like yourselves? Will ye go to witchcraft with your eyes open?" People saw Muhammad was as ordinary as they themselves. In all of the above quranic verses, allahh kept saying Muhammad could not perform miracles. But you and your scholars are saying he did. Who is lying, you or allahh? ALLAH COULD NOT PERFORM MIRACLES BECAUSE HE WAS ONLY AN ARABIAN IDOL AND NOT A GOD OF MIRACLE. |
Islam › Re: True Story About Muhammad's Marriage With Zaynab by truthman2012(op): 4:27pm On Apr 26, 2015 |
tartar9: why are you narrating your family history na shuoo! i dont even get the point of all this your story.my Aunt who married a xtian all her children are Muslims and there are many other cases like that. and you people keep mentioning we dont worship the same God,like who cares what sort of god you xtians worship, Say: "O disbelievers! 1 I do not worship those whom you worship. 2 Nor are you worshipers of Him Whom I worship. 3 Nor will I be a worshipper of what you worship 4 or will you be worshipers of Him Whom I worship. 5 For you is your religion and for me is mine."(Holy Quran 109) And i thought anything non-xtian is of the devil or are just discovering what your fellow xtians have been saying of Islam right from its revival by the Seal of Prophethood;the Holy Prophet Muhammad(SAW) your fruitless 'attacks' didn't start today nor will it end now "ye shall certainly be tried and tested in your possessions and in your personal selves; and ye shall certainly Hear much that will grieve you, from those who received the Book before you and from the polytheist. But if ye persevere patiently, and guard against evil,-then that will be a determining factor in all affairs(Holy Qur'an 3:186) "They desire to put out the light of Allah with their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light,however the unbelievers may be averse" (Holy Qur'an 61:8 ) Trash! What is holy about Muhammad? A sex addict, who married his daughter in-law. Shameless. |
Islam › Re: How Muhammad Was Violating The Quran With Impunity by truthman2012(op): 4:21pm On Apr 26, 2015 |
EzioAuditore: Lmao! Dude! Where did Allah say he made Muhammad forget? 'That thou shall not forget". Do you speak english? Revelations were sent depending on what the people needed at the time, for instance, he ordered hijra when muslims were not strong enough, and he ordered the muslims to defend themselves against the meccan army. Different times, different circumstances. One thing that really caught my eye is that you claimed that satan is an angel, let me get this straight, an angel like all angels who were made to be perfect and without freewill disobeyed God? If you really think that can heppen and if you still worship this god of yours, then the problem is not Muhammad mate, the problem is you are incapable of thinking. You will be able to see clearly only when you stop deceiving yourself. I have proved to you that satan hid under Mutaleb allahh to operate. Quran 87:6-7 YusufAli] By degrees shall We teach thee to declare (the Message), so thou shalt not forget, EXCEPT as Allah wills: For He knoweth what is manifest and what is hidden. That where allahh says he would make Muhammad to forget revelations as he wills. For more on allahh changing his words to deceive, read my thread on: https://www.nairaland.com/2260353/muslims-why-did-fail-probe |
Islam › Re: How Muhammad Was Violating The Quran With Impunity by truthman2012(op): 3:53pm On Apr 26, 2015 |
EzioAuditore: Zakir Naik makes a good point when he says.........
Many people have a wrong concept of Satan. They think that Satan can probably do everything, except a couple of things that God can do. According to them, Satan is slightly below God in power. Since the people do not want to accept that the Qur’an is a miraculous revelation, they say that it is Satan's handiwork.
If Satan would have written the Qur’an, he would not have mentioned in the same Qur’an in Surah Nahl, chapter 16 verse no. 98
"When thou does read The Qur’an, seek Allah’s protection from Satan the Rejected One."
Is this how you feel Satan would write a book? Does he tell you; "Before you read my book ask God to save you from me?" There are several verses in the Qur’an which will give enough evidence that Satan is not the author of the Qur’an.
In Surah Al Aaraf chapter 7 verse 200
"If a suggestion from Satan assail your (mind), seek refuge with Allah; for He hears and knows (all things).
Why would Satan tell his followers, that whenever he gives any suggestions to them, they should seek refuge in Allah (swt) to whom he is an avowed enemy. In Surah Baqarah, chapter 2 verse 168
"O ye people! Eat of what is on earth, lawful and good; and do not follow the footsteps of the Evil one, For he is to you an avowed enemy." In Surah Yasin, chapter 36 verse 60
"Did I not enjoin on you, O ye children of Adam, that ye should not worship Satan; for that he was to you an enemy avowed?" Satan is intelligent, no wonder that he can put this idea into the minds of people that he himself wrote the Qur’an. Compared to Almighty God, Satan is insignificant, and Allah (swt) is far more intelligent. He knows Satan's evil intentions and hence no wonder that He has given the reader of the Qur’an several proofs to show that Qur’an is God’s word, and not Satan's word. You don't know what satan is up to. He is an expert deceiver. He deceived one-third of the angels in heaven, numbering billions (Rev. 12:4). Angels are beings higher than man in strength and intelligence, yet satan deceived them. He gave muslims the impression that there is satan so that they would believe him to be God. He disguised as the sender of selected bible prophets for people to believe him as God. It is by discernment of the Spirit, a gift of the Holy Spirit that he can be detected. Satan is the one acting the roles of allahh, gabriel and satan in the quran. Muhammad was deceived and it is pitiable. You need to be objective and helped by the Holy Spirit to be able to detect him. He manipulated the muslims so clearly by not being stable and always changing his revelations. He even made Muhammad to forget many of them. Quran 87:6-7 YusufAli] By degrees shall We teach thee to declare (the Message), so thou shalt not forget, EXCEPT as Allah wills: For He knoweth what is manifest and what is hidden. So, allahh causes Muhammad to forget revelations after they have been revealed, why? Did he make mistakes? No, he was simply manipulating the people, including Muhammad himself. People who were sensitive, like the Jews and Christians at that time accussed Muhammad of inconsistencies and they told him he was INVENTING his messages, then allah said: [Quran 16:101] And when We put a revelation in place of (another) revelation, - and Allah knoweth best what He revealeth - they say: Lo! thou art but INVENTING. Most of them know not. [Quran 2:106] Nothing of our revelation (even a single verse) do we abrogate or cause be forgotten, but we bring (in place) one BETTER or the like thereof. Knowest thou not that Allah is Able to do all things? Tell me, why would the true God say he has a better knowledge after he has spoken? He was surely manipulating. In verses 87:6-7, he said he could cause Muhammad to forget revelations and in verse 2:106, he denied it. All the above changes and replacements of allahh words happened despite his statement that his words cannot change: Quran 10:64] Theirs are good tidings in the life of the world and in the Hereafter - There is no changing the Words of Allah - that is the Supreme Triumph. Who would not discover now that allahh was manipulating to deceive mankind? |
Islam › Re: How Muhammad Was Violating The Quran With Impunity by truthman2012(op): 1:44pm On Apr 26, 2015 |
EzioAuditore
Your first claim is Allah is a pagan God in the kaabah,? Lol! I guess your confusion stems from the fact that Muhammad worshipped Allah even before revelations, now in order to understand this you need to read the story of Abraham, the real story, not the rubbish your bible is selling. Also! What You may not know is Allah-God-Elohim, all means the same thing, meaning that Allah means God. So where is your proof that Allah was a pagan God? Was there an idol named such in the whole of Arabia back then? Yes, allahh is a pagan god inside kaaba. Allah does not necessarily mean the true God among the Arabs. They called whatever idol they worshiped allahh (Quran 6:136). Mutaleb was a pagan who named his son Abdullai, meaning servant of allahh. He named his son after his own god, allahh. Was Mutaleb a believer in islam? No. His god was allahh (idol). This same idol, allahh Muhammad went to worship in Hira when islamic Gabriel appeared to him and told him that what he was worshiping was the truth. When did Mutaleb allahh (idol), which Muhammad was worshiping become the true God? Secondly, you claimed Gabriel tortured Muhammad to the point of contemplating suicide and such has never happened to previous prophets.
What you're questioning is why God didn't send a 12 year old woman who was about to become pregnant to the point that she may fall unconscious? You should take a minute to think about that, that's if you're capable. Muhammad saw Gabriel in his angel form, read the bible and see what happened to Daniel when he saw an angel in the form of a man. Are all prophets the same? What happened to one, may not happen to the other, we're all prophets swallowed by a fish? We're they all raised by a pharaoh or King like Moses? I guess in Daniels case, when he saw an angel and was trembling, that was the devil too right? Also, not all of Muhammads revelations were this intense, as reported by Aisha (RA), there are revelations that come in his dreams, and whatever Muhammad sees in his dreams, they always come to pass, and as the Quran tells us, there are "weighty messages". As to the part about contemplating suicide, read because you clearly don't understand, suicide is caused by depression, not torture or pain, you should research that, now read: In demonology (study of operations of evil spirits), people who have contact with demons do have psychic problems like wanting to commit suicide or becoming mentally imbalanced. I know a muslim cleric who is demonic by virtue of having so much Arabic charms. The man is suffering from mental problems now, moving around the street with bear legs and carrying his shoes in his hand. Waraqa said, "This is the same Namus (i.e., Gabriel, the Angel who keeps the secrets) whom Allah had sent to Moses. I wish I were young and could live up to the time when your people would turn you out." Allah's Apostle asked, "Will they turn me out?" Waraqa replied in the affirmative and said: "Never did a man come with something similar to what you have brought but was treated with hostility. If I should remain alive till the day when you will be turned out then I would support you strongly." But after a few days Waraqa died and the Divine Inspiration was also paused for a while and the Prophet became so sad as we have heard that he intended several times to throw himself from the tops of high mountains and every time he went up the top of a mountain in order to throw himself down, Gabriel would appear before him and say, "O Muhammad! You are indeed Allah's Apostle in truth" whereupon his heart would become quiet and he would calm down and would return home. And whenever the period of the coming of the inspiration used to become long, he would do as before, but when he used to reach the top of a mountain, Gabriel would appear before him and say to him what he had said before. (Ibn 'Abbas said regarding the meaning of: 'He it is that Cleaves the daybreak (from the darkness)' (6.96) that Al-Asbah. means the light of the sun during the day and the light of the moon at night). Waraq was a liar or a man who didn't know what he was saying. Nowhere did did angel Gabriel appear to Moses. Look at the ignorance of the man who confirmed the prophethood of Muhammad. Muhammad expected the revelations to guide his path from day to day, but they subsided. Gabriel did not appear for some time, and all around him there was nothing but silence. Muhammad fell into solitude, separated from himself as well as from the people. His old fears recurred. It is told that even Khadijah said to him, "Does it not seem that your Lord is displeased with you?" Dismayed and frightened, he returned to the mountain and the cave of Hira'. There, he prayed for God fervently, seeking assiduously to reach Him. Particularly, he wanted to ask God about the cause of this divine displeasure. Khadijah did not dread these days any less than Muhammad, nor was she any less fearful. Often Muhammad wished to die, but he would again feel the call and the command of his Lord which dispelled such ideas. It was also told that he once thought of throwing himself down from the top of Mount Hira' or Mount Abu Qubays, thinking what good was this life if his greatest hope therein was to be frustrated and destroyed? Torn between these fears on one hand and despair on the other, revelation came to him after a long interval. The word of God was as clear as it was reassuring: Where did you get all these lies? You think you can just vomit any rubbish for people to swallow? Anytime you make assertions, prove your point by citing a reference. Besides, why should he want to commit suicide because the revelations ceased? Must he be given revelations when not necessary? Was he to dictate to his god to give him revelations? His attempt to commit suicide is characteristic of demon possessed people. And finally? An Angle telling a prophet to "read in the name of your lord" is something you find repulsive or suspicious? Are you really so blinded by hatred to see the truth? Trash! Gabriel commanded Muhammad to read when he didn't bring any document to read. Read what? A liar. How could any reasonable person believe the revelations of this liar to be the truth? Gabriel is satan in disguise. This is the reason his messages are different from God's messages as earlier given by His prophets. The bible says the Devil is a liar and the father of liars. Gabriel is the Devil the bible is talking about. |
Christianity Etc › Re: She Says Prophet Muhammad is in Hell (Hell Testimony) by truthman2012(m): 12:36pm On Apr 26, 2015 |
Abuamam: It is you who are lying. I have told you on numerous occasions, to look for the explanations from other verses or authentic hadith; rather than reading your own preferred meanings into narrations.
Those Muslims who will go to hell are those who are hypocrites among the Muslims and those who do not repent of their deliberate sins; and were thus not granted forgiveness by God for those sins; they are punished for a time for those sins. God still gives them hope of finally getting to Paradise; for the mere fact that they did not associate partners with Him; unlike those who worship men or idols. It is those who the hadith refers to.
Those who are Muslims in character and practice; who avoid sins, and repent of those sins which they commit; will cross over the bridge into paradise safely.
Abu Huraira-RA- narrated that the Prophet (saw) said: “the first of you will move over the bridge like lightening. He (the narrator) said: I said: O thou who art far dearer to me than my father and mother! Which thing is like the passing of lightening? He said: have you not seen lightening, how it passes and then comes back within the twinkling of an eye? Then (they will pass) like the passing of wind, then like the passing of birds, and the hastening of persons will be according to their deeds, and your Prophet will be standing on the sirat (path) saying: save O my Lord save. (the people will go on passing) till the deeds of the servants will be failing in strength, till a man will come who will find it hard to go along (the path) but crawling. He (the narrator said): and on the side of the path hooks will be suspended ready to catch anyone whom these will be required (to catch). There will be those who will somehow or the other succeed in traversing the path and some will be piled up in hell.” (Reported by Muslim)
Abu Saeed Alkhudree-RA- narrated that the Prophet -(saw)- said while mentioning situations of the Day of Judgment: “… then a bridge will be placed on the Hell fire and intercession will be permissible, and they (the Prophets) will say: save O Lord save. It was said: O messenger of Allah what is the bridge? He said: a slippery path full of hooks and thorns. The believers will pass on it like the twinkle of an eye, and like lightening, some like wind some like birds, and some like horses. Some will succeed in traversing the path and some will be piled up in hell.” (Reported by Muslim)
In the hadith of Ibn Mas’ud he said: the Prophet -(saw)- said: “…they will pass on the path and the path is like the sword (in sharpness) and slippery. It will be said: traverse (the path) according to your deeds. Among them are those who will pass like the swooping of the star, some will pass like the twinkle of an eye, some like wind and some like the hastening of persons. They will crawl and move according to their deeds till a person whose degree of light is the extent of the big toe of feet. He moves one hand and hangs the other. He moves one leg and hangs the other and thus will be touched by fire.” (Reported by Al-Hakim).
These traditions of the Prophet and the likes explain the meaning of the verse: “And there is none of you except he will pass over it. This is upon your Lord an inevitability decreed.” (Q19:V71). Meaning the verse is referring to the passing on the path. This was the interpretation of Ibn Abbass, Ibn Mas’ud and others.
Therefore, steadfastness on the Day of Judgment on the path goes along with steadfastness in this life. A person’s steadfastness on the path in this world will determine his steadfastness on the path place over Hell fire.
"Abu Sa'id al Khudri reported Allah's Messenger as saying, "When the believers pass safely over (the bridge across) Hell, they will be stopped at a bridge between Hell and Paradise where they will retaliate against one another for the injustices done among them in the world, and when they are purified of all their sins, they will be admitted to Paradise. By Him in Whose hands the life of Muhammad is, everybody will recognize his dwelling in Paradise better than he recognizes his dwelling in this world." [Sahih al-Bukhari, Fath al-Bari]
These options of course, are for those who identify as Muslims, you unbelievers will be dragged straight to hell; directly; without the option of crossing over any bridges.
I guess these ahadith should end your oft-repeated lies concerning the sirat, and that all Muslims will go to hell. Unfortunately, you are not a people of understanding, so I am sure that the same foolish lie will still be repeated on and on as if it is a fact. Trash! Your cited hadiths have no verifiable references. But wait a minute! Does quran 3:185 require any third party interpretation? It is self-explanatory. [Quran 3:185] Every soul will taste of death. And ye will be paid on the Day of Resurrection only that which ye have fairly earned. WHOSO IS REMOVED FROM THE FIRE AND IS MADE TO ENTER PARADISE, he indeed is triumphant. The life of this world is but comfort of illusion. [Quran 19:71 Shakir] And there is not one of you but shall come to it (i.e Hell); this is an unavoidable decree of your Lord. [Quran19:72 Shakir] And We will DELIVER those who guarded (against evil), and We will leave the unjust THEREIN on their knees. Those who guarded against evil shall be delivered (removed from Fire) and the unjust will be left therein (inside there). All muslims will be in Hell, some will be delivered (i.e removed from fire) and the rest will be left therein (inside hell). In fact I don't need to be that detailed before an intelligent person will grap it. |
Islam › Re: True Story About Muhammad's Marriage With Zaynab by truthman2012(op): 11:15am On Apr 26, 2015 |
tartar9: your xtian sister children are all xtians,and so what is that supposed to be a miracle?you should appreciate the great tolerance of her husband and of Islam in even allowing marriage to xtians.your copy and paste 'research' will continue to fail as they have always been throughout history. When the age was dark and people had no knowledge of islam, we thought we were worshiping the same God but in a different way. On the new year, my dad would can a muslim alfa to slaughter our goat and he would take away the neck. That was more than 50 years ago. But with civilisation and advent of internet, we are able to discover that islam is an introduction of the Devil. With the belief that we worship the same God, my father allowed my sister to marry a muslim and her first son is 55 years old now. With the age of the children, does the muslim father have any choice in all his children becoming Christians? So it is not tolerance by their father, he has no choice. |
Islam › Re: How Muhammad Was Violating The Quran With Impunity by truthman2012(op): 10:57am On Apr 26, 2015 |
true2god: Go tell that to your fellow Islamists. Mohammed was very poor when Khadija, a very wealthy business woman, married him. The social and economics status of Khadija, by your own logic, is higher than that of mohammed and hence khadija had no right marrying your prophet in the first place.
So if khadija, of better higher status, can marry mohammed, why can't Zayd marry Zainab? The fact is that your prophet lusted after her and decided to marry her. Zayd, being an adopted slave, has no say in all the transactions.
Stop defending the obvious evils of your prophet. He is only lying and fabricating. He could not provide any evidence that Zaynab was being arrogant to Zaid that led him to divorce. Muhammad saw Zaynab unclothed and was attracted by her beauty. I don't blame Muhammad but allahh. Why should he give Muhammad power for 40 women when he permits muslims to marry only four? I tell you allahh is satan, a confusionist. |
Islam › Re: How Muhammad Was Violating The Quran With Impunity by truthman2012(op): 10:46am On Apr 26, 2015 |
EzioAuditore: Excellent! Now I want you to summaries your questions, because I don't understand where you're coming from. SUMMARY: allahh was one of the 360 idols in kaaba and it was the god being worshiped in Muhammad's family as pagans. Mutaleb, Abdullai and Muhammad as pagans worshiped allah before quranic revelations. The same allah was being worshiped by Muhammad when the 'TRUTH' descended on him in Hira. The 'TRUTH' was to continue the worship of allahh (idol) as the true God. Gabriel introduced islam with violence by squeezing Muhammad thrice almost to death point. This account for islam being a violent religion today. God's true Gabriel did not torture Mary when he came to announce the birth of Jesus and never tortured anybody for whom he had messages. God had never tortured any of His prophets to send them good tidings. That Muhammad attempted to commit suicide following his encounter with Gabried shows he (Gabriel) was the Devil. Islamic Gabriel started quranic revelations with a lie by telling Muhammad to 'read' when he didn't come with any document or recite when he had not spoken anything to be recited. And because Gabriel is discovered to be a liar, everything he revealed in the quran is a lie. |
Islam › Re: How Muhammad Was Violating The Quran With Impunity by truthman2012(op): 8:57am On Apr 26, 2015 |
EzioAuditore: You don't worship the same God as Moses or jesus ninny. Moses and Jesus did not worship allahh. They worshiped Yahweh as allahh was not known in Israel at that time. Moses and Jesus did not visit Kaaba because it was the house of arabian idols. If it was truly built by Abraham as the house of God for ALL MANKIND, why wouldn't Moses and Jesus talk about it? It is lie of the Devil. You may not believe this but it is the truth: allahh was one of the 360 gods inside Kaaba. It was the god in Muhammad's family. It was the god of Mutaleb and Abdullai, Muhammad's fathers. Mutaleb was a known idol worshiper, who named his son, Abdullai after his god, allahh. Abdullai means 'servant of allahh'. As an idol worshiper, which allahh was he serving? God? No. The same allahh (god) Muhammad himself was worshiping in Hira when he said Jubril (allahh's angel gabriel) appeared to him. It was the same allahh Jubriel lied to him that it was the true God. It was all deception by the Devil. Narrated By 'Aisha : The commencement of the Divine Inspiration to Allah's Apostle was in the form of good righteous (true) dreams in his sleep. He never had a dream but that it came true like bright day light. He used to go in seclusion (the cave of) Hira where he used to worship(Allah Alone) continuously for many (days) nights. [/b]He used to take with him the journey food for that (stay) and then come back to (his wife) Khadija to take his food like-wise again for another period to stay, [b]till suddenly the Truth descended upon him while he was in the cave of Hira. The angel came to him in it and asked him to read. The Prophet replied, "I do not know how to read." (The Prophet added), "The angel caught me (forcefully) and pressed me so hard that I could not bear it anymore. He then released me and again asked me to read, and I replied, "I do not know how to read," whereupon he caught me again and pressed me a second time till I could not bear it anymore. He then released me and asked me again to read, but again I replied, "I do not know how to read (or, what shall I read?)." Thereupon he caught me for the third time and pressed me and then released me and said, "Read: In the Name of your Lord, Who has created (all that exists). Has created man from a clot. Read and Your Lord is Most Generous... up to... that which he knew not." (96.15) Then Allah's Apostle returned with the Inspiration, his neck muscles twitching with terror till he entered upon Khadija and said, "Cover me! Cover me!" They covered him till his fear was over and then he said, "O Khadija, what is wrong with me?" Then he told her everything that had happened and said, 'I fear that something may happen to me." Khadija said, 'Never! But have the glad tidings, for by Allah, Allah will never disgrace you as you keep good reactions with your Kith and kin, speak the truth, help the poor and the destitute, serve your guest generously and assist the deserving, calamity-afflicted ones." Khadija then accompanied him to (her cousin) Waraqa bin Naufal bin Asad bin 'Abdul 'Uzza bin Qusai. Waraqa was the son of her paternal uncle, i.e., her father's brother, who during the Pre-Islamic Period became a Christian and used to write the Arabic writing and used to write of the Gospels in Arabic as much as Allah wished him to write. He was an old man and had lost his eyesight. Khadija said to him, "O my cousin! Listen to the story of your nephew." Waraqa asked, "O my nephew! What have you seen?" The Prophet described whatever he had seen. Waraqa said, "This is the same Namus (i.e., Gabriel, the Angel who keeps the secrets) whom Allah had sent to Moses. I wish I were young and could live up to the time when your people would turn you out." Allah's Apostle asked, "Will they turn me out?" Waraqa replied in the affirmative and said: "Never did a man come with something similar to what you have brought but was treated with hostility. If I should remain alive till the day when you will be turned out then I would support you strongly." But after a few days Waraqa died and the Divine Inspiration was also paused for a while and the Prophet became so sad as we have heard that he intended several times to throw himself from the tops of high mountains and every time he went up the top of a mountain in order to throw himself down, Gabriel would appear before him and say, "O Muhammad! You are indeed Allah's Apostle in truth" whereupon his heart would become quiet and he would calm down and would return home. And whenever the period of the coming of the inspiration used to become long, he would do as before, but when he used to reach the top of a mountain, Gabriel would appear before him and say to him what he had said before. (Ibn 'Abbas said regarding the meaning of: 'He it is that Cleaves the daybreak (from the darkness)' (6.96) that Al-Asbah. means the light of the sun during the day and the light of the moon at night). Sahih Bukhari Volume 009, Book 087, Hadith Number 111.We can see that Muhammad from the family of idol worshiper was already into worship of allahh before he received quranic revelations. Which allah was he worshiping as a pagan? Unfortunately, Jubril (Gabriel) said what he was worshiping was the truth that he came to confirm. He was worshiping allahh when the TRUTH suddenly descended on him. Which truth? Continuation of worshiping allahh (idol). Gabriel (Jubril) introduced islam forcefully to him: he squeezed him thrice almost to death. That is not the character of the angel of the true God. When the true Gabriel came to Mary to announce the birth of Jesus, the first thing he said was "fear not". He never squeezed, he never tormented her. Violence is satan's way of doing things. Why should God torture a prophet He intends to send good tidings? Where did He do so before? So, Muhammad went home with pains to deliver 'good news'. After that, he made several attempts to commit suicide following his encounter with Gabriel. That shows Gabriel was not an angel of God, he was the Devil. Muhammad got home being very much afraid. It was Khadijah that appealed to him that he was going to be a prophet. What did she know about prophethood? On top of it, Gabriel started his revelations with a lie. He said "read" when he didn't come with any written document to be read. Quran is said to be given by recitation, what did he command Muhammad to read. Some islamic apologists say the 'read' means recite (iqra). That does no exonerate Gabriel. He never said anything to Muhammad before he said "recite". What was Muhammad to recite as nothing has been said to him? Islamic revelations started with falsehood and the quran is full of it. It denies the Sonship of Jesus and other vital information leading to salvation. The fact that Gabriel is found to be a liar shows everything he revealed in the quran is a lie. |
Islam › Re: How Muhammad Was Violating The Quran With Impunity by truthman2012(op): 9:40pm On Apr 25, 2015*. Modified: 10:18pm On Apr 25, 2015 |
EzioAuditore: How can he be the same god if you Christians say he had a son? how can he be the same god if the Jews rejected his messenger, Jesus(RA)? Allah is one! the same God, Jesus prays to, the same God that sent Jesus.
Mat 19:16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? [there is] none good but one, [that is], God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
As regarding the people of the book, read: "Strongest among men in enmity to the believers (Muslims) wilt thou find the Jews and Pagans; and nearest among them in love to the believers wilt thou find those who say, 'We are Christians': because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant. (The Noble Quran, 5:82)"
"Say: 'O People of the Book (i.e., Jews and Christians)! Come to common terms as between us and you: That we worship none but Allah; that we associate no partners with Him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah.' If then they turn back, say ye: 'Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to Allah's Will).' (The Noble Quran, 3:64)"
"Invite (all) to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: for thy Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from His Path, and who receive guidance. (The Noble Quran, 16:125)"
Qur'an 3:110-112 Surah Ale-'Imran (The Family of 'Imran) Ye are the best of peoples evolved for mankind enjoining what is right forbidding what is wrong and believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book had faith it were best for them; among them are some who have faith but most of them are perverted transgressors. They will do you no harm barring a trifling annoyance; if they come out to fight you they will show you their backs and no help shall they get. Shame is pitched over them (like a tent) wherever they are found except when under a covenant (of protection) from Allah and from men; they draw on themselves wrath from Allah and pitched over them is (the tent of) destitution. This because they rejected the signs of Allah and slew the prophets in defiance of right; this because they rebelled and transgressed beyond bounds.
Not all of them are alike: of the People of the book are a portion that stand (for the right); they rehearse the signs of Allah all night long and then prostrate themselves in adoration. They believe in Allah and the Last Day; they enjoin what is right and forbid what is wrong; and they (hasten in emulation) in (all) good works; they are in the ranks of the righteous. Of the good that they do nothing will be rejected of them; for Allah knoweth well those that do right. Those who reject faith neither their possessions nor their (numerous) progeny will avail them aught against Allah; they will be companions of the fire dwelling therein (for ever). What they spend in the life of this (material) world may be likened to a wind which brings a nipping frost: it strikes and destroys the harvest of men who have wronged their own souls; it is not Allah that hath wronged them but they wrong themselves.
Do you know that according to the bible, Jesus was from an incestous* bloodline?
Genesis 38: 1 And it came to pass at that time, that Judah went down from his brethren, and turned in to a certain Adullamite, whose name was Hirah. 2 And Judah saw there a daughter of a certain Canaanite, whose name was Shuah; and he took her, and went in unto her. 3 And she conceived, and bare a son; and he called his name Er. 4 And she conceived again, and bare a son; and she called his name Onan. 5 And she yet again conceived, and bare a son; and called his name Shelah: and he was at Chezib, when she bare him. 6 And Judah took a wife for Er his firstborn, whose name was Tamar. 7 And Er, Judah's firstborn, was wicked in the sight of the LORD; and the LORD slew him. 8 And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother's wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother. 9 And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother. 10 And the thing which he did displeased the LORD: wherefore he slew him also. 11 Then said Judah to Tamar his daughter in law, Remain a widow at thy father's house, till Shelah my son be grown: for he said, Lest peradventure he die also, as his brethren did. And Tamar went and dwelt in her father's house.
12 And in process of time the daughter of Shuah Judah's wife died; and Judah was comforted, and went up unto his sheepshearers to Timnath, he and his friend Hirah the Adullamite. 13 And it was told Tamar, saying, Behold thy father in law goeth up to Timnath to shear his sheep. 14 And she put her widow's garments off from her, and covered her with a vail, and wrapped herself, and sat in an open place, which is by the way to Timnath; for she saw that Shelah was grown, and she was not given unto him to wife. 15 When Judah saw her, he thought her to be an harlot; because she had covered her face. 16 And he turned unto her by the way, and said, Go to, I pray thee, let me come in unto thee; (for he knew not that she was his daughter in law.) And she said, What wilt thou give me, that thou mayest come in unto me? 17 And he said, I will send thee a kid from the flock. And she said, Wilt thou give me a pledge, till thou send it? 18 And he said, What pledge shall I give thee? And she said, Thy signet, and thy bracelets, and thy staff that is in thine hand. And he gave it her, and came in unto her, and she conceived by him. 19 And she arose, and went away, and laid by her vail from her, and put on the garments of her widowhood. 20 And Judah sent the kid by the hand of his friend the Adullamite, to receive his pledge from the woman's hand: but he found her not. 21 Then he asked the men of that place, saying, Where is the harlot, that was openly by the way side? And they said, There was no harlot in this place. 22 And he returned to Judah, and said, I cannot find her; and also the men of the place said, that there was no harlot in this place. 23 And Judah said, Let her take it to her, lest we be shamed: behold, I sent this kid, and thou hast not found her.
24 And it came to pass about three months after, that it was told Judah, saying, Tamar thy daughter in law hath played the harlot; and also, behold, she is with child by whoredom. And Judah said, Bring her forth, and let her be burnt. 25 When she was brought forth, she sent to her father in law, saying, By the man, whose these are, am I with child: and she said, Discern, I pray thee, whose are these, the signet, and bracelets, and staff. 26 And Judah acknowledged them, and said, She hath been more righteous than I; because that I gave her not to Shelah my son. And he knew her again no more. 27 And it came to pass in the time of her travail, that, behold, twins were in her womb. 28 And it came to pass, when she travailed, that the one put out his hand: and the midwife took and bound upon his hand a scarlet thread, saying, This came out first. 29 And it came to pass, as he drew back his hand, that, behold, his brother came out: and she said, How hast thou broken forth? this breach be upon thee: therefore his name was called Pharez. 30 And afterward came out his brother, that had the scarlet thread upon his hand: and his name was called Zarah. The names of the two kids who resulted out of this sexual encounter between Judah and Tamar were Pharez and Zarah. Here is Jesus’ lineage according to Matthew 1: 1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham. 2 Abraham begat Isaac; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat Judas and his brethren; 3 And Judas begat Phares and Zara of Thamar; and Phares begat Esrom; and Esrom begat Aram; 4 And Aram begat Aminadab; and Aminadab begat Naasson; and Naasson begat Salmon; 5 And Salmon begat Booz of Rachab; and Booz begat Obed of Ruth; and Obed begat Jesse; 6 And Jesse begat David the king; and David the king begat Solomon of her that had been the wife of Urias; 7 And Solomon begat Roboam; and Roboam begat Abia; and Abia begat Asa; 8 And Asa begat Josaphat; and Josaphat begat Joram; and Joram begat Ozias; 9 And Ozias begat Joatham; and Joatham begat Achaz; and Achaz begat Ezekias; 10 And Ezekias begat Manasses; and Manasses begat Amon; and Amon begat Josias; 11 And Josias begat Jechonias and his brethren, about the time they were carried away to Babylon: 12 And after they were brought to Babylon, Jechonias begat Salathiel; and Salathiel begat Zorobabel; 13 And Zorobabel begat Abiud; and Abiud begat Eliakim; and Eliakim begat Azor; 14 And Azor begat Sadoc; and Sadoc begat Achim; and Achim begat Eliud; 15 And Eliud begat Eleazar; and Eleazar begat Matthan; and Matthan begat Jacob; 16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ. 17 So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations. So as you can see, Jesus’ family line comes down from this sick act of incest between father and daughter in law, this means the God of the Christians comes from incest! Such blasphemy is disgusting and utterly degrading to the true God and Christians should be ashamed of themselves. So as we clearly saw, Jesus cannot be God, if a Christian wants to continue believing Jesus is God, it is their own loss. It is good you have agreed allahh is not the God of the Jews and Christians. Who is he? But why then did you say Moses prophesised the coming of the prophet of another god, allahh? His God was Yahweh, what was his business with allahh? People for whom the prophecy of a coming prophet was made by Moses had claimed it long before Muhammad was born: Acts 3:20-22 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began. For Moses truly said unto the FATHERS, a prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you. |
Islam › Re: How Muhammad Was Violating The Quran With Impunity by truthman2012(op): 9:23pm On Apr 25, 2015 |
EzioAuditore: More miracles? Sure!
The increase of Jabir b. Abdullah’s crops of date enough for paying his debts
The father of Jabir, Abdullah b. Amr b. Haram was martyred in the battle of Uhud and left behind six daughters along with a high loan. Abdullah b. Amr had two groves with some date trees but these were not enough to pay for his debts. The offer of reducing the debts was not accepted by the creditors, and another offer for delaying the repay of debts was also rejected by them. For this reason, Jabir came to the prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and said:
“O Apostle of Allah! As you know my father Abdullah was martyred in the battle of Uhud. He left many debts behind. The creditors did not accept the total crops of the dates in the grove!” and Jabir asked him to talk with the creditor, who was a Jew, and become an intermediary for help.
The apostle of Allah (PBUH) asked the Jew to take all the crops of the date grove in return for Jabir’s debts. However, the Jew did not accept it.
The Apostle of Allah (PBUH) talked with the Jew again. He asked him to delay Jabir’s debt owed to him. The Jew did not accept this, either. The prophet Muhammad’s (PBUH) offer as repaying some of his debt that year and the rest in the following year was not accepted by the Jew, either. He also insisted that all of the dates to be given in return for his debt must be of good quality.
The following day, the apostle of Allah along with Hz. Abu Bakr and Hz. Umar went to the date grove of Hz. Jabir and prayed for blessing. He told Jabir:
“Go! Pick the dates and classify them: Inform me after putting one side the Ajwa (the good kind) and on the other side Azq-ı Zayd (ripe ones).”
After Jabir fulfilled his order, the apostle of Allah came. Jabir had invited the creditors, too.. They came to his grove with donkeys and sacks. Jabir was ready to take the risk of buying good kind of dates from another place in order to pay the debts of his father.
The apostle of Allah circumambulated around the largest pile of dates three times. After sitting near or in middle of the dates, he said to Jabir by showing the creditors:
“Give them what they want by weighing the dates!”
Jabir paid his debt the creditors completely by weighing one by one. When he looked at the remaining crops, it looked as if there was no decrease! “Jabir, who had been thinking to return back to his daughter’s side without having any dates but having paid back his father’s debts”, had now a total of seventeen loads of camels with dates!
The increase of Jabir b. Abdullah’s crops of date enough for paying his debts
The father of Jabir, Abdullah b. Amr b. Haram was martyred in the battle of Uhud and left behind six daughters along with a high loan. Abdullah b. Amr had two groves with some date trees but these were not enough to pay for his debts. The offer of reducing the debts was not accepted by the creditors, and another offer for delaying the repay of debts was also rejected by them. For this reason, Jabir came to the prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and said:
“O Apostle of Allah! As you know my father Abdullah was martyred in the battle of Uhud. He left many debts behind. The creditors did not accept the total crops of the dates in the grove!” and Jabir asked him to talk with the creditor, who was a Jew, and become an intermediary for help.
The apostle of Allah (PBUH) asked the Jew to take all the crops of the date grove in return for Jabir’s debts. However, the Jew did not accept it.
The Apostle of Allah (PBUH) talked with the Jew again. He asked him to delay Jabir’s debt owed to him. The Jew did not accept this, either. The prophet Muhammad’s (PBUH) offer as repaying some of his debt that year and the rest in the following year was not accepted by the Jew, either. He also insisted that all of the dates to be given in return for his debt must be of good quality.
The following day, the apostle of Allah along with Hz. Abu Bakr and Hz. Umar went to the date grove of Hz. Jabir and prayed for blessing. He told Jabir:
“Go! Pick the dates and classify them: Inform me after putting one side the Ajwa (the good kind) and on the other side Azq-ı Zayd (ripe ones).”
After Jabir fulfilled his order, the apostle of Allah came. Jabir had invited the creditors, too.. They came to his grove with donkeys and sacks. Jabir was ready to take the risk of buying good kind of dates from another place in order to pay the debts of his father.
The apostle of Allah circumambulated around the largest pile of dates three times. After sitting near or in middle of the dates, he said to Jabir by showing the creditors:
“Give them what they want by weighing the dates!”
Jabir paid his debt the creditors completely by weighing one by one. When he looked at the remaining crops, it looked as if there was no decrease! “Jabir, who had been thinking to return back to his daughter’s side without having any dates but having paid back his father’s debts”, had now a total of seventeen loads of camels with dates! (4)
A Handful of Dates Feeds the Islamic Army
The daughter of Bashir b. Sa’d, the sis ter of Numan b. Bashir narrates:
“Amra bint Rawaha, my mother called me. She gave me two handfuls of dates and said to me, ‘Go and take this food to your father and Abdullah b. Rawaha, your uncle.’ On the way, I met the Messenger of Allah (pbuh) and asked him where father and uncle were. The Messenger of Allah (pbuh) said,
“O young girl! Come here! What is that with you?
I said,“O Messenger of Allah! They are dates. Mum sent them to my father and my uncle so that they would eat them.”
He said, “Bring them to me.“
I poured the dates into the hands of the Messenger of Allah. They did not fill his hands. He wanted a tablecloth to be brought. They brought it and lad it on the ground. He put the dates on the tablecloth and scattered them. Then he said to the people around,
“Come here and eat! Call the Companions who are digging the trench. The people of the trench came and started to eat. As they ate the dates, the dates increased. [5]
The Increase of a a few Dates
It is reported through many chains of transmission from ‘Umar b. al-Khattab, Abu Hurayra, Salama b. Akwa‘, Abu ‘Amrat al-Ansari:
The army went hungry on the expedition of Tabuk. They referred themselves to the Noble Prophet (PBUH), and he told them: “Gather whatever food is left in your saddle-bags.” Everyone brought a few pieces of dates and put them on a mat. The most they could put together was four handfuls.
Salama related: “I estimated it amounted to the size of a sitting goat.” Then, the Noble Messenger (PBUH) announced: “Everyone bring their dish!” They pressed forward, and no one in the whole army remained with an empty dish, all the dishes were filled. There was even some left over.
One of the Companions who saw this miracle later said: “I realized from the way that increase was obtained that if the whole world had come, the food still would have been sufficient.” (6)
The Feast given with a little food for a hundred and thirty people
Abd al-Rahman, the son of Abu Bakr al-Siddiq relates:
“We, one hundred and thirty Companions, were with the Noble Messenger (PBUH) on an expedition. Dough was prepared to the amount of about four handfuls (3 kg), a goat was slaughtered and cooked, and its liver and kidneys were roasted. I swear by God that from that roasted meat [liver and kidneys] God’s Messenger gave a small piece to each and put the cooked meat into two large bowls. After we had all eaten until we were filled there was still some left over, which I loaded onto a camel.” (7)
A little bread along with a goat enough for a thousand people
“In the house of Hz. Jabir, during the Ahzab expedition on the celebrated day of Khandaq, a young goat was cooked along with four handfuls of rye bread (approx. 3 kg) Hazrat Jabir al Ansar relates by swearing:
“On that day, about a thousand people ate from four handfuls of rye bread and a young cooked goat; yet food was still left over. Hazrat Jabir relates: “that day the food had been cooked in my house, and after the one thousand people had left, the pot was still boiling with meat in it, and bread was being made from the dough; for the Prophet had wetted the dough and the pot with his blessed mouth, beseeching God for plenty.” (
Here this miracle concerning the increase of food was shown in front a thousand companions and narrated by Hazrat Jabir. Those people who witnessed this miracle did not deny this riwayah; it means they accepted it. So, we can say that “this miracle can be considered as if it was conveyed by a thousand people”.
The satiation of seventy to eighty people with one loaf of bread
Abu Talha, the uncle of Anas who served God’s Messenger for years narrates:
“The Messenger fed seventy to eighty men with a small amount of rye bread that Anas had brought under his arm. The Messenger ordered: “Break the bread into small pieces!”, and he prayed for its increase. Because the house was small, they came ten at a time, and left having filled themselves. (9)
Unending Barley
Jabir al-Ansari narrates:
“Once, a man asked the Noble Messenger (pbuh) for food for his household. The Messenger gave him a half load of barley. For a long time, he ate of the barley together with his family and guests. They would look and see that it did not finish. So, they measured it to see by how much it decreased. After that, the blessing of abundance was gone and the barley began to dwindle rapidly. The man went to the Messenger and related what had happened. God’s Messenger replied: “If you had not put it to the test by measuring it, it would have lasted you a life-time.” (10)
The satiation of a crowd with a single bowl of meat
Hazrat Samura relates:
“A bowl of meat was brought to the Prophet (PBUH). From morning to evening, many groups of men came and ate from it.” (11)
In accordance with the explanation we gave in the introduction to this section, this is not the narration of Samura alone, since Samura narrated this incident on behalf of, and with the approval of, all those present.
The Feast given to the Suffa School
Hazrat Abu Hurayra narrates:
"The Noble Messenger commanded me, ‘Invite the poor Makkan migrants who have made the Bench [suffa] of the Mosque their home and who number more than a hundred.’ So I went and searched for them and gathered them together. A tray of food was set before us, and we ate as much as we wanted, then we arose. The dish remained full as it was when set down, only, the traces of fingers on the food were visible." (12)
Thus, this incident is related by Abu Hurayra in the name of all the People of the Bench, supported by their confirmation. Hence, the incident is as definite as if all the People of the Bench had related it. Is it at all possible that if it had not been true those men of truth and perfection would have remained silent and not denied it?
A Miracle of Abundance Performed during his Invitation of his Relatives to Islam
Hazrat Ali narrates:
In the first years of His prophethood, the Apostle of Allah invited all of His closest relatives to the feast that He arranged in order to invite them to Islam. They were about forty, including some who would eat a young camel and drink a gallon of milk in one meal. Yet for them he had prepared only a handful of food. All ate and were satisfied, and the food remained just as it had been before.
Later, he brought milk in a wooden bowl that would have been sufficient for only three or four persons. They all drank their fill. (13)
The Wedding Dinner of Hazrat Ali and Hazrat Fatima
According to an authentic narration, on the occasion of ‘Ali’s marriage to Fatima al-Zahra, The Noble Messenger (pbuh) ordered Bilal al-Habashi: “Have bread made from a few handfuls of flour; also slaughter a young camel!”
Bilal relates: “I brought the food and he put his hand on it to bless it. Later, the Companions arrived in groups, ate, and left. From the remaining food, he sent a full bowl to each of his wives, saying that they should eat and feed anyone who visited them.” Lies! Lies!! Lies!!! Because Muhammad was accused of inability to perform miracles, muslims have fabricated some for him. I noticed your narrations have no authors and cannot be verified. They fail again for want of verifiable evidence. Do you mean allahh lied when he says Muhammad was just a man who could not perform miracles? Allah said Muhammad was only a warner, not a miracle worker, why did you fabricate miracles for him? Quran 13: 07 “And the Unbelievers say: "Why is not a sign sent down to him from his Lord?" But thou art truly a warner, and to every people a guide.” Sahih Bukhari Volume 9, Book 92, Number 379 Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "There was no prophet among the prophets but was given miracles because of which people had security or had belief, but what I was given was the Divine Inspiration which Allah revealed to me. So I hope that my followers will be more than those of any other prophet on the Day of Resurrection." There again Muhammad said even though other prophets might be given power for miracles, what he was given was 'Divine Inspirations'. Why do muslims enjoy lying? |
Islam › Re: How Muhammad Was Violating The Quran With Impunity by truthman2012(op): 8:55pm On Apr 25, 2015 |
EzioAuditore: 3:25 (Asad) How, then, [will they fare] when We shall gather them all together to witness the Day about [the coming of] which there is no doubt, and every human being shall be repaid in full for what he has done, and none shall be wronged? -
4:1 (Asad) O MANKIND! Be conscious of your Sustainer, who has created you out of one living entity, and out of it created its mate, and out of the two spread abroad a multitude of men and women. [1] And remain conscious of God, in whose name you demand [your rights] from one another, and of these ties of kinship. Verily, God is ever watchful over you! - I'm not sustained by allahh neither am I created by him. Yahweh who is Jehovah is my creator, to whom am accountable. Allah is an unknown god. In fact he claims he is not the God of the Jews and Christians who rejected him. Say : O ye that reject Faith! I worship not that which ye worship, Nor will ye worship that which I worship. And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship, Nor will ye worship that which I worship. To you be your Way, and to mine (Quran 109:1-6 YusufAli). Allah confirms he is not the God of the Jews and Christians who rejected islamic faith. He said what Muhammad and muslims worship is not what the Jews and Christians worship. It is Yahweh who had been having dealings with humanity for ages. Who is allahh? It is because he is not the God of Jews and Christians that he ordered for their killing. [Quran 9:29] Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued Who is allah? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Real Life Story About A Muslim Man by truthman2012(m): 8:27pm On Apr 25, 2015 |
Empiree: Playiing tricks again. Allah means Supreme Being, The Creator of Heaven and Earth and All that is in them, The unique, The Almighty, He has no begining, no end. And that means God in English.
Now, here is simple Bible proof Joh 20:17
Jesus said "....I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God"
"Father" in the Bible is euphemism for God or it denotes God. Very simple. Now dont derail this thread. Face the op. You started the attempt to derail by quoting the bible. Where does 'Father' mean God? LIE. John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten SON, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. You have been so much deceived. |
Islam › Re: How Muhammad Was Violating The Quran With Impunity by truthman2012(op): 8:19pm On Apr 25, 2015 |
EzioAuditore: I were to believe everything about jesus then jesus a magician whose mother was a LovePeddler and his father a carpenter, that's what the historical view of him ism that's what commentators are saying, that's what the jews and romans who lived during his time said. Should I believe these fabrications? You can't bring a felon and present him as a witness in court, so no, it is your case that's dismissed here, your evidence is inadmissible stemming from the fact that your witness is a liar who has been convicted of perjury before. If you say anything insulting to Jesus, you are not a knowledgeable muslim. Your quran says he was a prophet of God. Quran 2:253 We have made some of these apostles to excel the others; among them are they to whom Allah spoke, and some of them He exalted by (many degrees of) rank; and We gave clear miracles to Isa son of Marium, and strengthened him with the holy spirit. Unfortunately, Muhammad, allahh's highest prophet had no supernatural power to do miracles. How is he the highest without supernatural power? When he was confronted with the challenge to prove his prophethood by performing miracles, he said he was an ordinary man, then how is he the highest? Quran 17: 90 They say: "We shall not believe in thee, until thou cause a spring to gush forth for us from the earth, And he would reply: Quran 17: 93 Say: "Glory to my Lord! Am I aught but a man,- a messenger?" Allah revealed to him he was a man, not supernatural. |
Islam › Re: How Muhammad Was Violating The Quran With Impunity by truthman2012(op): 7:58pm On Apr 25, 2015 |
EzioAuditore: Exactly! I don't know why they intentionally choose to be imbeciles. Smh! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Real Life Story About A Muslim Man by truthman2012(m): 7:51pm On Apr 25, 2015 |
Empiree: it's simply inspirational.
A lot
Indeed, Allah has final judgement. That makes Hiim Supreme over all 'rivals'. It's sometimes obvious who people of Janna are right here on our planet. Salem, in my opinion was on earth for a purpose....TO GUIDE HIS FATHER CLOSE TO ALLAH. His 'mission' was accomplished. Besides, he was only 10yrs old; meaning he was still around fitra. His has less sin unlike you, Mr. truthman, the granpa who have said words of disbelieve against Allah and His messanger. Therefore, your sins are like mountain.
John 5:30 "By myself, I can do nothing ..." said Jesus
Bow down your hard head to God Almighty Allah and worship Him. Bowing is worshiping Jesus was referring to his Father, not allah. allahh is not the Father of Jesus because he is barren, he has no children. John 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the FATHER which hath sent me. |
Islam › Re: True Story About Muhammad's Marriage With Zaynab by truthman2012(op): 7:38pm On Apr 25, 2015 |
omokab: congrat!Likewise many have converted to islam.To be sincere with am saying it with fact, nobody will change because of this write up.If to talk of religion that is full of mistake christainity is number one.Are u talking of religion that the bible you are carrying is different to other version.What luke said about jesus is not what john will say,likewise st.matthew.What you find in old testament is not the same with what you find in new testament as if your God changes.Is it the same bible that told you that your God was not happy when he saw what he created?Talking of killing please do a little reseach about killing in bible,you will be ashamed of yourself.you are reading social network regularly you will be able to know most of the atrocity committed by your pastors like killing church member or iNnocent to get crowd,involving in arm robbery etc but you will not see bad thing on this.If to talk of religion that will be accepted by GOD I swear is islam.Islam teach us how to communicate to GOD and what our stand should stand for.Islam teach us way of life such as your relationship with neighbours,who to marry,how to marry,your responsibilities as a husband and as a wife,parent responsibilities on child and child responsibilities on parent etc.I thank God that I am a muslim and Insha Allah I will die as a muslim together with my family.Amin It is the quran that is full of errors committed by allahh. If John made sincere mistake and it was corrected by Mathew and vice versa, it is pardonable. But what do you say to allahh, a god making so many mistakes and changing them by replacement. Tell me where God's prophets in bible said ''Thus said the Lord'' and God changed His words later, saying He had a better idea. See allahh changing his words for somebody giving him a better idea: https://www.nairaland.com/2260353/muslims-why-did-fail-probe |
Islam › Re: How Muhammad Was Violating The Quran With Impunity by truthman2012(op): 7:00pm On Apr 25, 2015 |
gatiano: xaxaxaxaxaxax. And when God calls the saboteur or liar to ask why he did so, the liar would say, he didn't force them, he just called and they answered. What's the meaning of this? Trash. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Real Life Story About A Muslim Man by truthman2012(m): 6:54pm On Apr 25, 2015 |
Empiree: Op is uncomfortable for you right The only thing you want people to know about Islam is negatives. You see how you keep failing. Your 4 months crusade against Islam and muslims is in vain. You better bow your pretty head to your creator before it's too late. The thread is not moving anywhere. You plot and Allah (also) plans. Allah's plan is sure to prevail over yours. You surely having crisis. Hope Allah softens your hardened heart.
@Rajman45, nice posts. Keet it coming.Jazakallahu khayran! Why shouldn't the thread move as it is meant for only muslims' consumption? Anyway I don't see any special about it. How are they so sure about Salem going to fictitious jannah? Muhammad himself was not qualified to enter jannah until he was 'cleansed' by Jubril in his one-night dream to jannah. If Muhammad required to first cleansed before he could get into jannah, muslims who are not cleansed cannot get there. https://www.nairaland.com/2249230/lessons-muhammads-ascension-heaven |
Islam › Re: How Muhammad Was Violating The Quran With Impunity by truthman2012(op): 6:19pm On Apr 25, 2015 |
EzioAuditore: Evidence about what? Let me get this straight, when God is inevitably ready to whoop your silly as*, your excuse will be that a liar and saboteur related a lie to you, even though you were clearly told that the bloke is a liar and saboteur? Smh, deaf dumb and blind indeed. Goodluck with that. Your statements are dismantled and your case dismissed for want of evidence. Smh! |
Islam › Re: How Muhammad Was Violating The Quran With Impunity by truthman2012(op): 5:45pm On Apr 25, 2015 |
EzioAuditore: Lmao! And you believe that crap? If you're looking at a religion, are you going to critique what they believe or are you going to believe what a well known liar and saboteur said? You do know the fella in question developed a reputation of being a liar and hypocite ? Every hadith of his is invalid and contradicts the genereal opinion. What authoritative backing do you need? Consult any muslim scholar as to what happened, when I say things about the bible, don't I provide proof from christian sources? Stop following other peoples opinions blindly, look at both sources from a neutral perspective, see what makes more sense, that's what I always advise you christians to do, nothing more. You said when you say things about the bible, you do provide evidence. Why can't do the same in the case in question? The so-called islamic scholars, where did they get their claim when there is no evidence. It shows somebody originated the lie, and they spread it all over. |
Islam › Re: True Story About Muhammad's Marriage With Zaynab by truthman2012(op): 5:36pm On Apr 25, 2015 |
omokab: I do not bother myself to open the link because is non of my business.On monday you can go to CBN to collect money for the job well done.I don't know who you wanted to confuse with your useless research.Keep it up It is to you and your type my research is useless. My reseach will lead many innocent muslims to the path of truth as the Lord lives. For ages, people have been in the dark as to the falsehood of islam. My elder sister married a muslim man and by birth all her children were muslims. But thank God for His grace, they are ALL Christians today. How would anybody who knows the truth be comfortable with islam? A religion that makes the whole world sleepless. |
Islam › Re: How Muhammad Was Violating The Quran With Impunity by truthman2012(op): 5:27pm On Apr 25, 2015 |
true2god: I agree with you. You shoud also understand that it is permissible to lie, in islam, in order to protect the honour of mohammed and islam.
Muslims have a unique sense of psychology and reasoning systems that are very strange, especially when it comes to the defense of mohammed. Remember, mohammed is a supposedly perfect man to muslims, so all his atrocities, genocide and adulterous lives must be positively presented before non-muslims.
Criticing mohammed, of any crime, is suicidal in any muslim country. You are right my brother. |
Islam › Re: How Muhammad Was Violating The Quran With Impunity by truthman2012(op): 5:26pm On Apr 25, 2015 |
EzioAuditore: This is his cousin, a woman he grew up with, a woman that was offered to him but he refused, this is a wedding that he arranged between her and his adopted son, this is the same woman his adopted son wanted to divorce but the prophet stopped him at first!and you think he needed to sabotage them just so he can marry her? Lol! Like the Quran says, deaf dumb and blind! Although Zainab was Muhammad cousin but you have forgotten that since she became of age, he had no opportunity of seeing her unclothed. You also do not notice that Muhammad's sex life was normal until he came in contact with Jubril, who falsely claimed to be an angel of God. One thing is clear here: many of what you say are hearsay as they lack athoritative backing. |
Islam › Re: True Story About Muhammad's Marriage With Zaynab by truthman2012(op): 5:09pm On Apr 25, 2015 |
Zaikon: No market... Who is selling what? |