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That's in the assumption that every Nigerian in Canada is only interested in money / material things.

Some people just want peace of mind and a stable good life in an environment that works.

I don't live in Canada but I know many Nigerians with very good jobs in the UK and US, and giving them a house in Nigeria will not really move them. Having a house for rent in Nigeria doesn't still mean stability as we know a the wahala with managing tenants in Nigeria and the hypertension that comes with it.

I agree with your point about the vibe, if you don't feel the place the it makes sense not to stay, but I disagree that you have to return to Nigeria to make it. You can make it anywhere in the world, and I will also say In Places like the US, Canada etc there is a lot more opportunity to make it as a professional based on what you bring to the table and not who you know.

I know people in jobs in Nigeria e.g. at glo or banks who hate the job but cannot leave because they got the job through one uncle and have no connection to move to another company.

I always get people telling me about coming back to Nigeria and while it is something I consider for the future, I also notice the only advantage they can tell me is you can make money easily. That's it, just money, but they don't mention there is also a huge chance of not making hour so called money.

And besides this money making is so volatile in Nigeria. Because you hit it by knowing one politician this year doesn't mean next year you will still make it.

Some people are more concerned with being context, fulfilled, happy and healthy rather than chance to hit money but so much stress.

sukkot:
brother, you and i know that if you poll 10,000 nigerians in canada and give them this option. you can either remain in canada or you can pack your bags tomorrow and return to nigeria and when you get to nigeria we will have 2 houses signed over to you as your property. the 2 houses are a gift to you for returning home. one of the houses you live in with your family and the other you use for rent to feed yourself. you and i know all 10,000 nigerians in canada will be on the next flight smoking out of canada back to nigeria. you and i know this if we are going to be truthful with ourselves. now this woman and her husband have properties and they are trying to sell it to go to canada . does that make sense to you ? lmao. really ?

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Very true. I went into a barclays bank recently and they have replaced tellers with machines now. The machines can be used to pay in cash/cheque, administer your accounts etc and only for certain things do you approach the customer service desk for help. Whilst it's good from a technological advancement perspective, that's some jobs gone just like that.

KoloOyinbo:
Before you do anything investigate the employment opportunities and level of unemployment. Sadly I can advise about Canada but know that my Naija friend who was Bank Manager in Lagos can to Ireland and cannot even get a job as a cashier as ALL the banks here are laying off staff and closing branches as folks move to internet banking etc.

So look closely at the level of unemployment especially as it relates to you own industry sector.

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I totally feel you here. Aiming for schools tht take people with no tests will usually be lower ranked programs with not too good reputation. For international students hoping to work in the US after graduation, you are better off trying to get into programs with strong reputation and recruitment, and unfortunately these schools have high entry requirements in order to maintain the standards that attract employers.

I see the same thing here in the UK where people look for cheap and easy to get into universities, and then afterwards struggle to get jobs with employers who can sponsor them for work permit. It's a simple case of supply and demand.

a rule of thumb i tell people is if the university has a larger international student population than local students, then it is no no. You should aim for the universities where the country train their best and not mushroom colleges and universities which are cheap and have very easy entry requirements.

Employers know the schools which are strong and those which are not.

worry359:
Why do so many insist on looking for school with "no tests"?
These sort of schools or colleges are either offering a dombed down education and are not liked by immigration and visa officers.
Or they require extra catch up classes which cost more than taking tests in the first place.

Are these posters too idle to take a test? how will they spend time on study if they do get a school place?

Surprised you cannot find universities with masters in finance.

Found below within 3 minutes:
https://business.illinois.edu/msf/
http://www.bc.edu/schools/csom/graduate/msf.html

This link has a list of universities who offer Msc finance:
http://www.bus.lsu.edu/academics/finance/faculty/dchance/MiscProf/MSPrograms.htm

Regarding tuition of 10k-15k, you need to check each of their websites or reach out to confirm the costs but most will be more than that for international students. btw is th 10k-15k per term or year budget?

obiaguna:
Friends please I need your help and contribution. I have actively been searching for schools in Yankee to undergo my msc program but the search has been frustrating.
Most of the schools I checked I got little or nothing pertaining to fees and graduate programs. I could hardly see a school that offered a masters degree in finance or financial management as I intend pursuing a PhD after (not certainly but just maybe) and a lot of those schools were only offering MBA's.
I am not interested in an MBA at this stage as I hardly have enough office experience.
Please for the guys that are there already, can you list some schools that have very affordable tuition (say 10-15k dolls) and schools that have actual Msc business courses.
Please I am really tired cos most of the schools websites are not very straight forward like the UK schools. Thanks y'all.

Good luck with the baby. Have a 6 month daughter and it's a blessing

You say you are an auditor, do you by any chance work with one of the big 4 firms? If yes then another option may be to transfer to their Canadian practice. While not easy, with the right networks it can happen and you are more secure in that you have a job waiting and they sort your visa etc.

If not then your study route is the more likely option.

As an auditor with 7 years experience and international chattered accountancy qualifications you have a chance of getting a job, but it may not be easy or quick. Takes time.

irridemi:
yes this is our first child, and am the auditor (with 7years plus experience) that's why we were thinking of me working while he needs to get higher studies since he has been working for himself for some years now, so the experience he has is "his" while me I can get referral letters, my payslips, and many docs from my employer. Mayb we will look for Satschekwan then. if Ontario is expensive and competitive, school fees will be high then, thank u so much God bless u for the comment

I had a quick check and according to the below, whilst the baby will have citizenship, it is no advantage to you from a permanent residency perspective. Also you need to consider costs as you may not be eligible for health insurance thought his is dependent on the province you go so do your research. Just food for thought.

"Having a baby in Canada is not a good idea if you're an international student because:
A. If you don't have prov health coverage (or excellent private coverage) it costs $10,000 - I think.
B. Your university will provide updates regarding your academic progress to CIC twice a year. If you take an unscheduled break from your studies to tend to your child or you fall behind you may be asked to leave Canada.
C. The Canadian healthcare system is completely overwhelmed.
D. The child will receive CDN nationality."

ttmacoy:
I wouldn't say there are no jobs in the UK. There are jobs for those with papers and the right experience.

Regarding your dilemma, migrating to Canada (via a legal route) has many benefits, but it may be tough at first until you are settled and really have a foot in the system which may take a couple of years.

Having your baby there will give you an advantage in believe as the child will be a citizen and I believe there are some benefits from the government. You also have free medicals etc.

Given you are pregnant it may makes sense for you to study while he works as your dependent as it may be hard getting a job whilst pregnant especially when you have started showing. This though depends on how attractive his qualifications and experience are.

Given he has a finance background he may have more opportunities in Toronto or ontario area but it's more expensive and there's a lot more competition for jobs there.

Anyway it's all a matter of how much you are willing to risk for a bright future. Good luck though.

Is this your first child?

I wouldn't say there are no jobs in the UK. There are jobs for those with papers and the right experience.

Regarding your dilemma, migrating to Canada (via a legal route) has many benefits, but it may be tough at first until you are settled and really have a foot in the system which may take a couple of years.

Having your baby there will give you an advantage in believe as the child will be a citizen and I believe there are some benefits from the government. You also have free medicals etc.

Given you are pregnant it may makes sense for you to study while he works as your dependent as it may be hard getting a job whilst pregnant especially when you have started showing. This though depends on how attractive his qualifications and experience are.

Given he has a finance background he may have more opportunities in Toronto or ontario area but it's more expensive and there's a lot more competition for jobs there.

Anyway it's all a matter of how much you are willing to risk for a bright future. Good luck though.

Is this your first child?

irridemi:
lol why will I abuse u haba. Thanks for the advise, I don't no much about countries but I heard there are no jobs in U.K. But no knowledge is wasted, u can still help out with U.K information, mayb my hubby can have a change. Thanks I really do appreciate ur comment.

Haba ... Chatham House does not have capacity for 2000 people. Their biggest hall sits 250.

"While Chatham House hosts up to 100 Members Events each year, some are more popular than others, and there is nearly always restricted capacity (for example, the Joseph Gaggero Hall seats 250, and the Neill Malcolm Room and Henry Price Room have a combined standing capacity of 200 for receptions). - See more at: http://www.chathamhouse.org/events/our-events-explained#sthash.ldtIxXFT.dpuf"

IbnSultaan:
GMB delivering his speech at Chatham House now
With over 2000 applications to attend the event, it's a full house at Chatham House.

Wise words. Very true regarding how they evaluate Nigeria degrees and experience over there.

Tokyo50:
Please be advised that it is difficult for professionals to work in Canada if they are not schooled there. Their foreign certificates must be at par with Canadian ones. I have met many doctors and engineers from Africa and beyond driving taxis and delivering pizza for a living.

It is fairly easy to immigrate to Canada if you have a university degree and about $20,000 in your name. They will grant you a resident visa rigjt there in Nigeria after you complete the paperwork. However, that doesn't mean jobs are waiting for you. Every year, 200,000 people with various qualifications arrive to start a new life in Canada. They are competing with local talents and few universities mean it will take 3-6 years to get a spot to re-qualify your credentials so that they are at par with Canadian ones.

It is not an impossible task but if you are not well prepared, you will waste your talents and more. Please remember, with all the hype, Canadian economy is at par with California economy. Calculate your risks and plan well.

The youtube link says soldiers dancing during training session, the OP says soldiers dancing after defeating boko haram..... which is it?

Is tis really what politics in Nigeria has become?

No intellectual discussions and arguments about policy etc, all about stupid he travelled, he didn't travel.

Can't wait for this election to be over and done with. Not expecting miracles from either candidate whoever wins anyway.

Hey Dj, 31k is a lot of tuition for an MBA from Bridgeport.

i think it is a wise decision you have made to sit GRE as it will enable you get admission into better ranked programs and possible more funding.

An MBA is a tricky qualification in that it is a great qualification which can open doors if done at the right school and right stage in your career, but I see many international students pay huge sums for many programs which end up not opening up the opportunities they expect at the end of the program.

A rule of thumb is the easier it is to get into the program, the harder it is to get access to good jobs afterwards.

Sit the GRE and apply to better recognised programs in ATL as you suggested or at least cheaper, but with good grades and experience you may be able to get good funding.

E.g. Goizueta business school is better ranked and more reputable than bridge port and and gives better post mba job opportunities in atlanta. Costs a bit more but with good GRE grades and work experience you can get better funding.

djmakson:
SirRiddy thanks a lot. I already got admission into UniBridgport in Connecticut for my MBA without any standardized exam. Was tld it's been waived cos of my work experience and SSCE requirement. I-20 received and got just $3k funding out of a whole $31k. That huge mhen! I decided to write GRE when I got valuable info about the exams here (that's after I applied to Bridgeport) Now i'm reconsidering the whole thing and specifically looking into schools in Atlanta cos that's where I have family. Looking out for cheap ones with funding.

Once again I appreciate you guys in da house.

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Putting aside the obvious irresponsibility of leaving the kids like that, what type of wedding lasts 3 weeks?

I tell you my brother. So much misinformation you never even know what is happening or what to believe anymore.

There is so much confusion in out country Nigeria all to aid the selfish ambitious of a few greedy bastards.

adeyemi2015:
Don't really know what to believe again?! So many information flowing and blowing; making it so hard to filter and select the truth from the false!
Notwithstanding, I have decided to Support CHANGE movement and nothing can stop that!

It sounds funny but sex is natural and actually has benefits especially with the hormones released during sex and orgasm.

simplemach:
Hahahahaha doctors and their rules. Sometimes i wonder doctors and prophets which of them puts people more on tight corners. Imagine telling somebody to have more sex for her health.

Sorry but this is all hypothetical and I don't see it happening. The bigger nigeria's economy grows the smaller the growth rate so using current growth rate to estimate to 2050 doesn't make sense.

You need to look at the assumptions in the appendix to make sense of the projections.

Also the risks cover their back e.g. from the report: whilst Nigeria has the potential to be a fast growing country, this is dependent on Nigeria using its oil wealth to develop a broader based economy with better infrastructure and institutions e.g. rulebook law.

Looks like he is in a car to me. Too small and cramped to be a jet, and aren't those covered windows behind him in the first pic?

Hard to imagine a jet with the back windows against the seats.

Reread and it does say custom jet on the road

Again I disagree with you. Dubai has a gdp per capita of $60k+, Nigeria has a gdp pee capita of just $3k+.

Please don't be deceived by all the political talk of biggest economy in Africa, absolute gdp doesn't tell the story, it's gdp per capita that is more accurate. Why? Because it tells us each person in Nigeria generated $3k worth of gdp, and each person in dubai generated $60k.

Another reason why I say dubai developed better is whilst Dubai was developed using oil money, they have now built an economy where oil only makes up 7% of government revenue. This means they are not as affected by falling oil prices compared to Nigeria. They know oil is not infinite so they spent the money to develop a sustainable economy. This has nothing to do with the number of citizens, in fact Nigeria has the advantage of more human resources to diversify the economy.

Instead Nigeria decided to focus on oil to the detriment of other sectors. And we did this to steal and siphon rather than invest. We ignored the palm oil sector and now Indonesia is the biggest palm oil exporter. We ignored the cocoa sector and now the likes of Ghana etc are bigger exporters. All our textile, automobile industries all dead so we could focus on stealing oil revenue.

That is why I say we have not developed anywhere near dubai.

ribbit:
im not saying that nigeria is better than UAE ... the point is UAE is not a great country either. it is just average country with a better infrastructure than nigeria and nothing else... nigeria economy is better than that of UAE based on Gdp theory.

I understand what you mean by the smaller population in e.G. Dubai means the money goes further per person than Nigeria, but I maintain that we have not done much with our oil wealth.

Can you please tell me one industry or product where we have a competitive advantage on the global stage aside oil?

With a population of over 170 million people we have the human resources to develop the country.

With the mentality we have in Nigeria, no we would not be better than dubai even if we had same population. We are very poor at maintenance, very poor at being planning and very selfish, greedy and corrupt so no we would not be better than dubai.

As I pointed out, airlines dead education crop, health care no go with a the millions of people we have.

With our population and oil we would be better than dubai if we changed our attitude from a short term individualistic and materialistic attitude to a long term collaborative mentality. Develop a maintainance culture as no point investing in infrastructure of they all collapse like our airport.

Nigeria at the least should be a west African hub for finance, health, aviation, education but instead we cannot maintain a national airline, crap airports, we have students studying in porta cabins in Ghana etc. So no we would not be same as dubai of we had same population and kept our mentality.

ribbit:
i didnt say UAE didnt develop anything, the point was trying to make, they could hsvr done better with what they have. the lower the population with great natural resources, the bigger the advantages. the big population only becomes an advantage when there is less natural resources. human resources comes in.


you think nigeria wont be better than this if the entire country is the size of abuja and the population is not more than 10miilion without thousands of tribes to shi.it on each others head ? building the entire UAE is like Building a single in Nigeria.

im not making excuses for nigeria's failure to get things right, but the point is, UAE could have been better than its current state.

Yes we have more population, but you cannot tell me we have managed our oil wealth at all. Dubai even with the advantage of a smaller population have diversified their economy very very well.

Look at Qatar, developed Qatar air to turn their country into a travel hub, yet we do not have a functioning national carrier. look at financial services, I work for a consulting firm who is helping Qatar design and launch a financial hub. They have successfully diversified and developed their country. Yes they have lower population, but I can also argue that the fact we have a larger population should mean we should have the human resources and skills to develop our economy, but we haven't.

We made enough money from oil to invest in infrastructure and diversify our economy, but due to selfishness, greed and corruption we haven't.

ribbit:
they didnt actually? what is the population of UAE? what about the land mass?
UAE has 10million people and land mass of aprox. 90,000sqkm. which means the entire country is not even up to oyo state. now compare that with 170million population and close to 1million/sqkm land mass.
and they produce almost the same number oil nigeria produces in a day. now compare that with population of if they really manage their economy well, they should atleast be among the 15 or 20 richest countries in the world.
they also have problems with corrupt elites, but no one could question them because their is no democracy.

Hmm I think you over estimate how much Nigerians spend in Dubai. Yes they spend money there but I don't think this will send them into recession or anything like that.

See below the top 10 nationalities that visit Dubai - Nigeria is not there so they will be fine, besides I doubt Nigerians even spend up to anything like the Chinese will spend and they come with less issues and stress than Nigerians.

Of this, Dubai’s top 10 hotel guest source markets were Saudi Arabia, India, UK, USA, Russia, Kuwait, Germany, Oman, Iran and China

Emmanuel602:
It will really affect their economy because a large chonck of their economy depends on the shoppings and luxurious trips Nigerians do in the UAE..... Since dem no want us, make we just stay and develop our country

Money is not everything, maintaining the sanity of their country may be more important than the money Nigerians bring, besides there are loads of other tourists who come to Dubai and co.

onila:
Nigerians are one of their top customers

it does not make sense

Don't they want money

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha this one pass mumu

Looks to me like there wasn't enough seats and the 2 guys are staying in front. Once stooping down and the other chose to kneel. Doesn't look like they were punished.

It's painful to admit but compared to Naija Dubai, Qatar etc are very very developed. They used their oil money very well.

Fatalveli:
So UAE too is now counting themselves as a developed country, there supposed to be accepting people in their country with that their low population.

MuguliciousMUGU:
We only have three set of people in this world, we have the BLACKS and THE WHITE and NIGERIA.

Hahaha we are unique