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FrancisTony:FrancisTony, please don't willfully misunderstand the bible. Or reinterprete it to garner likes !If submission is in al instances reciprocal, why is it actually needed? And why would there be any need for a qualifier of "wives submittring to husbands" immediately afterwards? I think we should add workouts to your rehab - drop, and give me 50 press-ups. We need to work on your concave chest and weedy arms - as well as your bible knowledge. Building a "whole man" ![]() TV |
crackhaus:I get that. Just a general lament. crackhaus:Feminism can't ultimately triumph - not least because women themselves prefer patriarchy !crackhaus:Feminist ideology - or rather it's advance - means men are being socialised according to it's dictates. Hence the "whipping". They are doing well for the moment sha, with lots of betas, white knights and all ranks of "save-a-skets" working tirelessly on their behalf. TV |
Moana:...surely it was at least a joint decision? At least your sister answered you;Shollypopzz:TV |
Etosonc:Speak to NL's most famous leapling tearoses aka chaircover. TV |
...stinginess !TV |
crackhaus:I'm afraid it has/is crackhaus:No, it's Ben Martin (nee Coghill) - husband of Rowan - one of a new breed of men, who are taking their wife's surname. The last of his name, forsaker of the bloodline, the kinship, ties, the culture and heritage of his fathers. A sign of the feminised, limp-wristed, males that these days pass as progressive and open-minded men - presumably a genital swap will be forthcoming ![]() I's all over Cracky !TV |
coogar:Presumably it uses powerful chemicals to warp the womens normal bodily - reproductive function? I once had a girlfriend who insisted on going on the pill. One of the really attractive things about her, was her great skin. That went first. Bad acne. "Small price to pay huh? Afterall, it wasn't on my tab was it? Then I found a prettier one .TV |
Kay17:Yes - and how timely a question - men are seriously underpaid relative to women in Tennis . That is not even customary discrimination, as it has no greater purpose. It's "spiteful" discrimination.TV |
bukatyne:But biology must colour perception small na? bukatyne:There are age-related risks for both male and female - The "freezing eggs" thread was really enlightneing. bukatyne:Men are probably more concerned about providing. And women still have to worry about provision - even if just to ascertain that it will be made. bukatyne:No one can legislate for this. I know someone with 3 girls - after saying no more after 2, they tried one last time for a son. In the "not child-friendly" West, it' driven by economics and convenience. Childcare for one child can swallow up a whole salary !bukatyne:It's still easier for a man to huge numbers of children - there was a program on telly about it a month or 2 ago. One even went out clubbing wiht his first born to score new chicks !TV |
coogar:Quickly pops back in to note that "as ever it favours men"...especially those that want responsibility-free engagement with women. And notice, who bears the risk of any side-effects? Sounds like discrimination to me ![]() TV |
shaybebaby:Drops mic...flees......... TV |
Kay17: TV01:Yes, I also said this; TV01: TV01:Of course no one is fighting cutomary discrimination where it adversely affects men !TV |
Kay17:Not Nigerian feminists - they love kids and marriage die Our two feminist stalwarts here were both engaged before 20 !There is no structural or institutionalised pay disparity. TV |
bukatyne:Not more, not less, exactly the same? Wanting as an express desire and the effort and timings are totally different. The limiting factors are mostly heavily weighted for females. It's why men can have harems. And children are more biological imperative for women and status for men. bukatyne:Of course we do. We have very little risk and only really have the burden - shared - of provision. Do you know what childbirth can do to a woman? I have a cousin who had 4 by CS. Here the max is 3. I would not have 4 CS' for anything. 1 sef Yes na. I would love 2 more, 4 sef. But that's effortless for me to say and almost effortless for me to do. One area I don't demand obedience - and wifey has said no more . Truth is, I wouldn't allow it. What even I went through - which was nothing comparitively - I can't go through again. But if I could have multiple wives, why not?TV ...and in the West you can have the kids and escape the burden if you are able to act irresponsibly. Some men have 20 |
EnlightenedSoul:"Irrationality" cannot be introduced as a criteria . It's about feeling, autonomy, consent, harm, etc. It can be and has been demonstrated that the animals are "happy". Tails wagging furiously . And likewise for any notion of "design" or "functionality" or "blegh". There are rational reasons (design, functionality, outcome) against homosex and incsex. But these are never brought to bear. Why should they be here?EnlightenedSoul:Outlier? No way - he's establishment. Mark my words, he will be honoured with an order/knighthood at some point. And more to the point he is feted by the liberal elite. He acts as a very good stalking horse. EnlightenedSoul:Agreed. But the cover-ups are not because they think it's wrong or to clean up quietly, but, because they know it won't be acceptable - at the moment. But it's clear their are hignly-connected rings, who engage in this immorality. Establishment figures spanning politics, church, police, media, entertainment etc. For them it's expedient to do so, it means people aren't on alert. They actually dispose of some child abuse victims, but all we have are missing child reports. EnlightenedSoul:One thing that is out there now is that increased visibility and agitation creates acceptance. Be it by making it appear normal or wearying those who resist (especially if they are persecuted for doing so). Deny them rights by sterilizing them. All it does is increase the risk of genetic defects, they are stil there and non-related couples still give birth to children with genetic defects. It's a more obvious case of discrimination than homosex. EnlightenedSoul:It's al about the traffic = OP is MIA . Sholly 0!!!!!!!!!TV |
EnlightenedSoul:Pondered, wondered and gon' dered (sorry, best I could do off the cuff !)Can't be true as a biological imperative. Women have shorter windows and limited opportunity. A womans fertile years are limited relative to a mans. A woman can only be pregnant to delivery once for any 9 month duration. Men can impregnate as many as they can lie with. The delivery risk (non-existent for men) and post-delivery burden is greater on women also. Simply put, spermatozoa is cheap, the effort minimal, risk low and the burden comparitively light. The male urge is more for "expression", the female for "conception". Nothing to engender fervency in men !Culturally, it's still women who show more fervency - although men do as well. Men don't have ot work against the clock as much for marriage or children. They handle the pressure better as a result and find more solace/respect in status - apart from marriage. You need to share - insightfully - on this or take a strike for trolling !Kay17:I'm not parsing Coogars points, I'm parsing yours - which I find to be all ideologically driven but not grounded in reality. Patriarchy is normal - it's what women want! Men are mean tto lead and dominate, there may be a few exceptiosn, but overall, we flourish best that way. TV |
Kay17:No it is not. Equality is forced even where there are clear differences or when the outcomes are poorer. How can that make sense? Customary discrimination was not simply males favoured over females. Customary discrtimination is - all things being equal - prefering a married man with kids over a single woman, or a single man. It's women and children first! And it would make sense in the medical profession. TV |
Kay17:There is all sorts of wrong with this statement; 1. It women who want babies most - not men ![]() 2. Women can combine both satisfactorily - even if some sacrifice is required 3. Marriage is not a farce - on the contrary, it's the basal building block of harmonious and flourishing societies 4. Yes, I suppose some women could live fulfilling lives without marriage. Some. Refer to point 1. 5. Per #4, why would those lives not be even more fulfilled with marriage? The only categorical distinction in humans is male/female. Not black/white, straight/gay, or any other. The whole biological difference, functioning and purpose is geared towards child-rearing - not fulfilling careers. I don't deny a form of fulfilment from a career, but it should not be considered a substitute or alternative to a family. And certainly not as worthy, moral or courageous ![]() Most Western industrialised countries are facing a ticking demographic time-bomb due to falling fertility. They are simply not breding at replacement rates (approx 2.2 babies p/w). Japan and Germany are particularly bad - where's carefreewannabe for her daily diss !Society can't just be about women, neither can it be ordered solely on a notion of equality. coogar:In the UK that conversation is shut-down everytime. No one even has the liver. Wetin e talk? TV |
Kay17:I don't believe there is institutionalised gender pay disparity in Nigeria. Even moreso, in the West. There may be vestigial bad practice here and there, but even that likely cuts both ways to some degree. It's mostly about choices, ability and ethic. And if anything, trying to force equality is producing poorer overall outcomes, as I noted in my previous post. Some forms of customary discrimination made sense and would still be understandable for the overall good. Although I'm not calling for it's re-introduction, or am even certain we could roll back the tide. TV |
The whole notion of forced equality is not even the real discussion here. In fact, I feel employment, wages, etc. largely reflect male/female choices and some forms of customary discrimination are actually a good thing. As Coogar has pointed out for the STEM courses, it's instructive to note the case in medicine. About 60% of female Dr's in the UK leave the profession within 10 years. Another large cohort opt for P/T work. Outcome; serious backlogs in GP's surgeries and a resultant influx into A&E, causing real pressure. As more women will soon be admitted to medical school than men, it means added funding to train, what will be a smaller cadre of Dr's. The rates of attrition mean that essentially, two women have to be trained to fill one slot? Raising problems with funding the training in addition to the reduced service delivery. PC means it can't even be discussed without howls of protest. Why shouldn't men be given preference here? It's clear there is more to this than performance at the time of admission - 18'ish - when girls tend to be slightly ahead of boys (in terms of requirements and how they present). Equality as a stand alone notion does not necessarily serve the best interest of the whole and shouldn't be zealously pursued without wider consideration. TV |
EnlightenedSoul:Abuse? According to inter-species lovers, it's the exact opposite. Without wanting to gross anyone out, how does one characterise the excitement of a dog with a female human as abuse. Or an animal that is mollycoddled - housed and fed like a child - due to it's intimate relationship with it's master as immoral? They claim the animals are not only willing, but enjoy it. And why would you think animals would prefer death or short, brutal lives as beasts of burden, to that kind of care and attention. EnlightenedSoul:No, they test public sentiment and re-set accordingly. Homactivist Peter Tatchell claimed an age of 9 is both good and beneficial, when it didn't go down well with the public, he tactically revised this to 14. They advance on many fronts. EnlightenedSoul:And you wouldn't be far wrong - ask anyone. We've had a festering situation where numerous high-ranking members of parliment have been implicated for years. All the informants have been intimidated, police investigations have been short-circuited, and "public enquiries" have gotten nowhere. No one has been charged. Files handed to a government minister went missing, only for said minister to die, at which point it's revealed said minister was the subject of the file . There was widespread knowledge in Westminister about others - Cyril Smith for instance - he lived large till he died. Only then did it come it to public attention.What about Jimmy Saville? Decades of abuse covered up. And on such a scale, and by such a public figure, he had to have enblers and co-conspirators. The whole of the British establisment/elite is implicated. Abeg Damiso, Coogar, please, am I being sensationalist here? EnlightenedSoul:No brainer - like I said, it's not exactly criminalised now. regardless of the curren tlegal position. EnlightenedSoul:The arguments for legalising incest pretty much mirror those for homosexuality - and pass your own test - consent and non-abusive, no? http://jme.bmj.com/content/34/9/e11.abstract http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2010/12/david_epsteins.php EnlightenedSoul:We will go from Hmm to SMH !TV |
EnlightenedSoul:No. EnlightenedSoul:Consent? For animals? When did turkeys vote for christmas ? The only consent that matters is "the age of". It's already out there - in Govt and amongst the general populace, and obviously homactivists;http://matthewhopkinsnews.com/?p=436 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/10666875/Patricia-Hewitt-called-for-age-of-consent-to-be-lowered-to-ten.html http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jul/08/lower-age-consent-14-1979-home-office-report http://www.debate.org/opinions/should-the-age-of-consent-be-lowered-to-13 EnlightenedSoul:As above...small, small... EnlightenedSoul:Prostitution, I agree, but it is already treated benignly anyway. Polyamoury etc are all on the cards. As for incest, please, that too is already beeing seriously discussed. You may be more sheltered than I am !EnlightenedSoul:Probably while we are both still on here. Expect a mention some time in the near future .TV |
Kay17: . You people have reduced me to smileys today.TV |
Shollypopzz:Sholly 0! You have catalogued lots of sin, but nothing illegal - or beyond the pale liberally speaking - are you now born-again !TV ...and in some ways this comes across as a race-tinged hate-rant |
Kimoni:It's not about the bro' or the ho' - it's clear the OP does not possess the requisite maturity to be involved in a full-on adult relationship. And certainly not with someone who is not wholesale commited to her and her wellbeing - who coul dat least be gentle with her as she grows. How far? How et familia. Come, did you pass ![]() TV |
bukatyne:Bukatyne TV Busybody2: HelloHolá - where you been? - as my boy always asks me ! |
bellong:Sometimes I'm glad when I play catch-up. This is one of those times . Well put Belly.TV |
EnlightenedSoul:Those are at best minor impediments - in fact, I believe I covered them off already. 1. All they have ot show is that the relationships are in some ways beneficial. A claim that has been made for "intergenerational relationships". 2. Minors can give consent - especially if the age of consent is lowered so that they are no longer minors. That is also being pursued. Currently 9 is seen as the target. Ultimately it wil be removed altogether. NAMBLA and the homosexual lobby it is part of are just being practical in making it appear seperate - for the time being. It's all out there - anyway, we shall see. TV |
shaybebaby:The rational wasn't about "homsexuality" per se, or how deviant it is/isn't. It's about taking a socially unacceptable practice and normalising it. Homosexuality - and bestiality - has always been with us, it's about how it is culturally accepted and how to change that. The template applies. And the "none of my business" notion doesnt cut both ways when a new orthodoxy is enforced. People who woul drather make homosexuality none of their business are forced to endorse or facilitate it. TV |
EnlightenedSoul:News to me too. I'm soooo sheltered .EnlightenedSoul:But there doesn't have to be a trend - just a powerful enough lobby. We have seen that with homosexuality. It's quite a simple template; Rename it, i.e. peadophilia, is now called "inter-generational love". And homosexuals have "loving caring relationships Then think about casting it as a "right", and something that does not hurt anyone - which indeed is even beneficial to the couple. And focus on the "loving" bit, with no mention of the actual practices - no matter how much of a disease vector it happens to be. Pop them into mainstream media - films, tv etc. - and always portary them as cool and right on. In direct contrast to clumsy and awkward "normal people" Have the chattering liberal classes distil it as the new orthodoxy and police, persecute and punish any dissent. Embed it into your laws like the Irish - voilá, you are good to go. Take any liberal cause - aka sexually deviant behaviour - rinse and repeat. TV |
Kay17:No it does not. There is no structural impediment to women being paid the same - and it is illegal to discriminate. Any differences are down to choices and negotiating power. And, and, men work harder - and are able to work harder - than women. Fact! As noted in one of the examples you posted, there used to be what is known as "customary discrimination" in favour of married men. Something that is no longer practised now, but not something I see as problematic - as the benefits always went onto wives and children anyway. What is also clear is that due to lots of affirmative action, younger women in the West are now out-earning men of the same age. http://www.topmanagementdegrees.com/women-dont-make-less/ http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2841740/Now-women-30s-earning-men-time-female-workers-staving-gender-pay-gap-having-family-later-life.html TV ...racial discrimination is a way bigger problem than "gender" discrimination. |
If there was no problem - or at least potential problem - she wouldn't be asking for advice would she? Marry this guy, and if his uncle blackmails you to sleep with him upon pain of exposure, what will you do? Remember he wanted to resume the affair when you met again - despite the fact that he was married with children. He who sins with you, will sin against you. How are you sure that no one else knows about the affair? Go to your intended and tell him - which you should have done yourself when things got serious. And please makes sure you answer any questions truthfully and don't leave out anything that may be considered salient. You will be liberated, and should you both proceed, totally confident in your husbands love and acceptance, on a platform of trust - the best foundation for your life together. If he truly loves you and wants a future with you, it's a small thing to get over - NOW. Afterwards it won't be so easy. All the best TV |
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A difference between using your beast of burden to carry loads for you, and painfully over-burdening it. Between properly caring for and owning a pack of dogs, and forcing them to tear each apart for your affection, scraps of food, and your betting pleasure. If a certain animal's purpose is to feed you, the least you owe it is a swift death. If certain beasts are suited to carry your loads, the very least you owe it is food/water/care, and a reasonable load. But to engage in intercourse with a beast, tell me how does one reconcile this? It's abuse, and not its purpose.
. Well put Belly.