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Christianity Etc › Re: Is Baptism Necessary For Salvation? by Ubenedictus(m): 7:49pm On Sep 30, 2016

analice107:
Plenty criticism is making RCC give in to some Biblical principles.

YOU have seen the truth that since d 1st century d church has used both pouring and immersion, but instead of admitting u were wrong and dat u were falsely accusing d church, u prefer to hide under ur pride.

Christianity Etc › Re: The POPE Is The Anti-christ.. Do Not Be Deceived.! by Ubenedictus(m): 7:25pm On Sep 30, 2016

branhampaul:
Why Will The Pope Be Above The Law Of The Land When The Bible Said Everyone In Christ Should Obey The Law Of The Land Were He Resides..
Beside, The Bible Said Let Him Who Think Himself To Be Greatest Among You Be The Servant..
Can You Answer This; Why Is The Present Pope Trying To Unite All World Religions? Why!

SO U BELIVE THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD CONTROL THE CHURCH?

THE POPE ISN'T LOOKING FOR A ONE WORLD RELIGION, HE IS INTERESTED IN INTER RELIGIOUS DIALOGUE.

Christianity Etc › Re: The POPE Is The Anti-christ.. Do Not Be Deceived.! by Ubenedictus(m): 7:20pm On Sep 30, 2016

branhampaul:
All Men Are Sinners Who Have Come Short Of The Glory Of God..
Why Should A Man Be A Representative Of God.. Think Na

AND WE ARE MADE RIGHTOUS BY THE GRACE OF GOD AND CALLED TO BE HIS REPRESENTATIVE ACCORDING TO D BIBLE.

International Standard Version

Therefore, we are the Messiah's
representatives, as though God were pleading through us. We plead on the Messiah's behalf: "Be reconciled to God!"

THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH BEEN GOD'S REPRESENTATIVE.

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Christianity Etc › Re: The POPE Is The Anti-christ.. Do Not Be Deceived.! by Ubenedictus(m): 12:44pm On Sep 30, 2016

I have somewhere to be now, i'll continue later.

Christianity Etc › Re: The POPE Is The Anti-christ.. Do Not Be Deceived.! by Ubenedictus(m): 12:16pm On Sep 30, 2016

HERE IS ANOTHER

Pope Nicholas I declared that "the appellation of God had been confirmed by
Constantine on the Pope, who being God, cannot be judged by man." (Labb IX Dist.: 96 Can 7 Satis Evidentur Decret Gratian Primer Para)

REPLY: Never did Pope Nicholas I. say that the Pope is God. What he does say is
this:[b]"Since those in higher authority are not judged by inferiors, it is evident that the Apostolic See, than which no earthly authority is higher, is judged by
none."[/b]And that is perfectly sound reasoning to me. in medieval times even in civil law, the king is "above the law," and not subject to his own laws. Hence the legal
axiom, "The king can do no wrong." Italy itself has acknowledged the justice of the Pope's claim to be
independent of all civil
jurisdiction, and subject to no earthly authorities hence the pope has his own city state where he is free from external power.

Christianity Etc › Re: The POPE Is The Anti-christ.. Do Not Be Deceived.! by Ubenedictus(m): 12:04pm On Sep 30, 2016

YOU CAN FIND THE ORIGINAL WORK HERE IN LATIN.
cdigital.dgb.uanl.mx/la/1080015572_C/1080015573_T2/1080015573_T2.html

under the title Controversiarum de Conciliis, Liber Secundis: Qui est de Conciliorum Auctoritate. The quote - and the context in which it
appears - can be found in chapter 17,
entitled Summum Pontificem absolute esse supra Concilium.

Card bellarmine isnt a pope, but even when writting about the authority of a pope he clearly says the pope is simply a steward, a servant placed to look after his masters household and that is why there is similarities in titles, he says.

Another name of Christ is “Shepherd” [Pastor]. John 10: “I am the good shepherd,” etc. He shares this title [literally “communicates the
same thing”] with Peter in the last chapter of John: Feed my sheep. He thus establishes that the shepherd is over the sheep, so that in no way he can be judged by them.

bellarmine isnt sayng d pope is GOD, he is sayng d pope as representative of JESUS has authority in d church

Christianity Etc › Re: The POPE Is The Anti-christ.. Do Not Be Deceived.! by Ubenedictus(m): 11:48am On Sep 30, 2016

DOCTORALIEN this is an example of quoting out of context.
"All names which in the Scriptures are applied to Christ, by virtue of which it is established that He is over the church,all the same names are applied to the Pope."- On the Authority of
the Councils, book 2, chapter 17

THIS IS THE QUOTE IN CONTEXT it is from card bellarmine
Third proposition: “The Supreme Pontiff is simply and absolutely over the universal Church, and over a general Council, so that he recognizes no judicial authority on earth over
himself.”
...It is proved by the second reason, based in Scripture: for all the names, ascribed to Christ in Scripture, from which it is determined that he is over the Church—those same names are ascribed to the Pontiff. [2] And first, Christ is the paterfamilias [male head of the household] in his own house, which is the
Church. The Pope is the highest steward in the same house, that is, the household head in Christ’s place: Luke 12: “Who is the faithful and prudent dispenser...

Christianity Etc › Re: The POPE Is The Anti-christ.. Do Not Be Deceived.! by Ubenedictus(m): 11:23am On Sep 30, 2016

www.papalencyclicals.net/Pius05/p5regnans.htm
that is a link to the bull pope pius wrote to elizabeth. after introducing himself as pius bishop, servant of d servants of God, he went on to say that Jesus who has all power in heaven and earth has given d care of d church to peter and his successors d bishop of rome.

doctoralien, ur quote was mischievous, it lied, misquoted what pope pius said.

Christianity Etc › Re: The POPE Is The Anti-christ.. Do Not Be Deceived.! by Ubenedictus(m): 11:13am On Sep 30, 2016

Doctoralien, to expose one of ur lie,
this is what u claimed the pope said.

"The Pope and God are the same, so he has all power in Heaven and earth." Pope Pius V, quoted in Barclay, Chapter XXVII, p. 218, "Cities Petrus Bertanous".

NOW NOTICE THAT IT IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT HE REALLY SAID.
The actual statement comes from Pope St. Pius V's Bull Against [Queen] Elizabeth / Regnans in Excelsis (27 April 1570). It begins:

Pius Bishop, servant of the servants of God, in lasting memory of the matter.
He that reigneth on high, to whom is given all power in heaven and earth, has committed one holy Catholic and apostolic Church, outside of which there is no salvation, to one alone upon earth, namely to Peter, the first of the apostles, and to Peter's successor, the pope of Rome, to be by him governed in fullness of power.
D phrase is about God, nt about D pope: 1) God, IS D one that reigns on high. 2) "To whom is given all power in heaven and earth" -- obviously referring 2 Jesus, NOT D POPE

Christianity Etc › Re: The POPE Is The Anti-christ.. Do Not Be Deceived.! by Ubenedictus(m): 10:37am On Sep 30, 2016

DoctorAlien:
Did you bother to check the sources provided after the quotes? Or you simply blindly stated the above?

I actually checked the source some are non existent, the others were qouted out of context, many werent said by pope. and in all the right document written by pope, the pope always calls Jesus redeemer, saviour and GOD and always note that he is only a representative.

Christianity Etc › Re: The POPE Is The Anti-christ.. Do Not Be Deceived.! by Ubenedictus(m): 10:22am On Sep 30, 2016

this is what pope leo said

But since We hold upon this earth the place of God Almighty, who will have all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth, and now that Our advanced age and the bitterness of anxious cares urge Us on towards the end common to every mortal, We feel drawn to follow the example of Our Redeemer and Master, Jesus Christ, who when about to return to Heaven, implored of God, His Father, in earnest prayer, that His disciples and followers should be of one mind and of one heart: "I pray...that they all may be one,..."

1.) If the Pope identifies himself as
God, then why does he refer to the Lord
Jesus as "Our Redeemer and Master?" Surely God cannot have a master as that would imply that there is someone
superior to him.

THAT MEAN U ARE INTERPRETING OUT OF CONTEXT.

In the Catholic point of view, "we hold upon this Earth the place of God" makes perfect sense, as Catholics believe that the Pope is the Vicar (i.e.Representative) of Christ.

Christianity Etc › Re: The POPE Is The Anti-christ.. Do Not Be Deceived.! by Ubenedictus(m): 10:07am On Sep 30, 2016

DOCTORALIEN i still havent seen a single pope who claim to be God, all u presented are jumbled up quotes of ALLEGDED writtings that talk about the pope.

Christianity Etc › Re: The POPE Is The Anti-christ.. Do Not Be Deceived.! by Ubenedictus(m): 10:01am On Sep 30, 2016

Papist:
I only see this quote on anti-catholic websites. Have you read the actual book? If so can you provide the context or give more quotes from the same page?

THAT is probably because it isnt a real quote.

Christianity Etc › Re: Is Baptism Necessary For Salvation? by Ubenedictus(m): 6:11pm On Sep 29, 2016

analice107:
Pls bring out the passages the Bible talks about people baptizing at home.

ACT 10:47 shows baptism in cornelus house “Can anyone forbid water, that these should not be baptized who have received the Holy Spirit tjust as we have?” 48 uAnd he commanded them to be baptized vin the name of the Lord. Then they asked him to stay a few days.

Christianity Etc › Re: Is Baptism Necessary For Salvation? by Ubenedictus(m): 5:44pm On Sep 29, 2016

analice107:
Any YouTube videos?

I have been a Catholic until recently, i have never heard of Catholic baptizing by immersion.

i dont know about youtube videos but this is a website that talks about guidelines used in catholic immersion baptism www.kencollins.com/instructions/how-09.htm

You may want to see this youtube video, i didnt watch it but i guess it satifies ur request.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oI6vk8ycNg&fulldescription=1&gl=NG&client=mv-google&hl=en

Christianity Etc › Re: The POPE Is The Anti-christ.. Do Not Be Deceived.! by Ubenedictus(m): 3:36pm On Sep 29, 2016

analice107:
Yes very soon i will grow old, but the prophecy wont grow old until it gets fulfilled.
And, the Papal's office as the office of the False prophet to the Antichrist is not particular to an individual or a particular Pope. This Pope will die, another pope will assume the office until that prophecy comes to pass.
keep deceiving yourself and drinking your their alters.

HAHAHA, the word of God doesnt expire, but the false teaching and interpretations of analice and co will never come to pass.

the problem with u guys is that u dont know how catholicism work, if one pope proclaims a dogma another pope cannot contradict it. the church teach that Jesus is God in the flesh no pope can contradict that. So i know ur wishfull thinking will never come to pass.

Christianity Etc › Re: Is Baptism Necessary For Salvation? by Ubenedictus(m): 3:31pm On Sep 29, 2016

analice107:
Oh really? From when and why?

Every Catholic Baptism is done inside the church, how do they do the immersion pls?

Since 33 AD the church has been baptising with both immersion and pouring, bible show whole household baptised in their houses no need to find a river. the didache an early christian writting, dated 90 AD show the church still doing both pouring and immersing. even today many catholic church has baptismal fonts for immersion and many still use pouring.
both method are ancient and are still in use in the catholic church.

Christianity Etc › Re: Church Members Asleep In Mass, Solution? (pics) by Ubenedictus(m): 3:20pm On Sep 29, 2016

mrZENographer:
Your twisting the passage still. The angels are not praying but blessing God. Also in the book of Daniel. The angels are carrying the prayer of Daniel to God and back. But they arent praying for him. You are deluded.

so prayer of praise is not prayer abi? david clearly ask d angels in heaven to join him in his prayer of paise, that is intercession.

The bible does not clearly show that we can pray to host of heaven like you claim. That's why you can't provide a relevant scripture. But verses you can twist to suit ur motive. Its not good.

and yet d bible shows david asking d host of heaven to join him in his prayers. if david can do it so can catholics

Secondly, the bible never says that the angels are in Chrst. The Bible says " Christ died not for the Angels but for the children of men".

so you dont even know d purpose of christ dead? eph 1:10 ''as a plan for the fullness of time, to unite all things in Christ...

Christianity Etc › Re: The POPE Is The Anti-christ.. Do Not Be Deceived.! by Ubenedictus(m): 3:08pm On Sep 29, 2016

analice107:
I never said Muslims were innocent. Yes, they started the whole thing, but the Catholic Church came in and did worse.

They were a ton of closet atheists while the Catholic Church held sway. Anyways, i don't expect you to admit it.
Okay, lets not go far back, lets view today's Europe. Wasn't Europe referred to as Catholic Europe? Why is it now changed to Atheist Europe?

Do your research 85% of Atheists in Europe has Catholic background.

Right here in NL, almost all the atheists and satanists were Catholics and Igbo, because the Catholic religion is stronger there.

Guy, ask yourself why most igbos here are the ones susceptible to turning atheist. shouldn't that tell you that the Catholic long term agenda was to turn the world godless?

So u have left d old days because u now see dat protestanism started then atheism followed.
as for europe, there was a catholic europe, the protestanism came, that led to protestant europe, then came secular europe.

Politics › Re: INEC Announces Results Of Edo Governorship Election: Live Updates by Ubenedictus(m): 2:47pm On Sep 29, 2016

reverendfather:
I voted for APC because of oshomhole's Overall performance.
funny thing is majority of those spewing the hatred sermon, I've never stepped their foot in Edo, Edo people are not Biafrans who will turn a blind eye on good governance.

All those prostesting right now at ikpoba hill are the paid pdp youths who were promised an additional 5000 naira each should ize-iyamu win.

lol.

Politics › Re: INEC Announces Results Of Edo Governorship Election: Live Updates by Ubenedictus(m): 2:47pm On Sep 29, 2016

pacesetter247:
As far as I am concerned, He worked only in some parts of Edo state, that's Benin and His hometown whereas other LGAs did not feel his tenure, this I must say is bad. Especially in Esan land, have you seen Agbor- Uromi road, mehn that's a death trap in the waiting if something urgent is not done. Whoever wins, though should please not be partisan, Development is for all not for one. Long live my Edo State.

is agbor-uromi road a state road? what concern osho with that road?

you claim osho negleted esan And yet i can see renovated and refubished schools in irrua, ekpoma, ewu, uromi... all esan towns, d emu road has been done, there are edo buses linking esanland... d list can go on.
osho worked well in benin and yes he opened up his village but there is no local governt or even town that oshio didnt touch.

Politics › Re: INEC Announces Results Of Edo Governorship Election: Live Updates by Ubenedictus(m): 1:03pm On Sep 29, 2016

Naijji:
PDP calls for recount in Etsako East. Agents' figures different from INEC's figures

They are been mischievious pdp won d head quaters of estako east that is agenebode because of dokpesi but the forgot villages like Afokpella, Affai-Uzanu, Awoyiemi-Okpella, Ebelle, Egori Egori Waterside, Ekwotsor, Ekwoakpele-Uzanu Emokweme Iddo-Okpella Imakebu Imiegba Ngodor Immiekuri-Okpella Itsukwi Ivianokpodi Iviari Iviebua Iviegbepui Ivioghe Iviukua Iviukwe Ofukpo Ogberaya-Uzanu Ogute-Okpella Ogwozima Ogwoyo-Uzanu Okpekpe Okpella Udochi North-Uzanu Okugbe-Okpella Osholo Othame Ovao Ukpeko-Uzanu Uzanu City Yerowa-Uzanu ogiriga, where they didnt do well.

Politics › Re: INEC Announces Results Of Edo Governorship Election: Live Updates by Ubenedictus(m): 12:52pm On Sep 29, 2016

greggng:
You re a prophet. You re close to my village cos from their u will sight emu. From ohodua you can find ur way. One day I ve to wait for a car to come and pick me for over 3days cos we u miss the day they normally come then u ve to wait till u got another opportunity. It was terrible

Anyone familiar with that axis will understand, i have visited emu severally, we had a family friend from that axis, the road was all sand and bush, no light, nothing, untill sometime ago when oshio tarred d road and linked it to d asaba-ebu-ubiaja road and d inner villages. Now there is light.
Anyone saying oshio didnt work is lying, he need someone to do more and complete his projects.

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Politics › Re: INEC Announces Results Of Edo Governorship Election: Live Updates by Ubenedictus(m): 12:44pm On Sep 29, 2016

reverendfather:
oshobaba really worked in edo state.

THAT ONE IS UNDEBATABLE.

he deserves the show of support he is getting from benin,he will get more from akoko edo and etsako, i was happy he managed to swing igueben and registered good presence in esan.

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Politics › Re: INEC Announces Results Of Edo Governorship Election: Live Updates by Ubenedictus(m): 12:38pm On Sep 29, 2016

kahal29:
12: Etsako Central LGA

APC: 10,373

PDP: 8,827

Registered Voters: 43,049
Accredited Voters: 20,145

DOkpesi has been defeated at home. it seem fugar swings more votes than agenebode

Politics › Re: INEC Announces Results Of Edo Governorship Election: Live Updates by Ubenedictus(m): 12:34pm On Sep 29, 2016

greggng:
God bless u for ur comment. To be honest I am an esan man. The first time I visited my village I asked my mum why did u marry my father cos his place is like bush no road no development. Recently my mum called to inform me that the bush now has a good tarred road and light. I must confess oshomole has done well. His party deserves another chance

Are u from emu? the village u are talking about sounds like emu.

Politics › Re: INEC Announces Results Of Edo Governorship Election: Live Updates by Ubenedictus(m): 11:39am On Sep 29, 2016

ifyalways:
Am I missing something abi how are you folks determining the winner already

From the results thus far with Esan West as the last released results :APC has won 5 Lga's with 142,424 votes while PDP has 4 LGA's with 136,808 votes.

Difference is 5,616 votes and 5 LGA's or more to be announced.

D pdp strongholds have finished, benin wil b a battle ground and apc will win with a slim majority but etsako is oshiomole stronghold, he will sweep d etsako areas.

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Politics › Re: INEC Announces Results Of Edo Governorship Election: Live Updates by Ubenedictus(m): 11:27am On Sep 29, 2016

permanentgrace:
So everybody is now congratulating APShit? I see psychophancy at its peak. Meanwhile, the winner is yet to be announced. Calm your nerves first.

THE REMAINING LGA ARE MAINLY APC AREAS.

Akoko edo will vote apc, etsako west is oshiomole land, + the remaining etsako land. pdp stronghold has finished, apc and pdp will drag ikpoba oha, and the ovia lgas.
APc has won.

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Christianity Etc › Re: The POPE Is The Anti-christ.. Do Not Be Deceived.! by Ubenedictus(m): 10:06am On Sep 29, 2016

analice107:
They was, but the Church held people with iron fist. Just like Islamic Apostasy, if you revert you die. As a matter of fact, Islam borrowed Apostasy from Catholicism.

If there weren't Atheists in the Church, how come there was mass migration from the Church after the First and second world wars?

It was after these wars that people were able to break free from the Clutches of the "Church", and that gave rise to modernism/secularity, which in other words is Atheism.

So u just shot urself in d foot, atheist began after d protestant revolution not before.

it is funny u think the muslims were d innocent ones even though they started the wars with their jihad. that certainly tells me u are ignorant of what u are talking about.

Christianity Etc › Re: The POPE Is The Anti-christ.. Do Not Be Deceived.! by Ubenedictus(m): 9:40am On Sep 29, 2016

DoctorAlien:
Ubenedictus, can you see your pope blaspheming GOD?

The Pope is of so great dignity, and so exalted that he isnot a mere man, but as it were God. and the vicar of God."-Ferraris Ecclesiastical dictionary

"All names which in the Scriptures are applied to Christ, by virtue of which it is established that He is over the church,all the same names are applied to the Pope."- On the Authority of the Councils, book 2, chapter 17

"The Pope and God are the same, so he has all power in Heaven and earth."Pope Pius V, quoted in Barclay, Chapter XXVII, p. 218, "Cities Petrus Bertanous".

Family › Re: My Inlaws Giving Conditions. by Ubenedictus(m): 6:10am On Sep 28, 2016

EngrWanted:
The conditions were really an issue at the time. Putting clause to a marriage and you can understand when an over 90+ old man made his reservation. My people were just hissing and conversing in low tone when the provocative statement were made by my ex father.

The notion of putting me down just to pass judgment is entirely inconsistent with my reservation as regards her education. Read where I stated I was instrumental to her education at some point. My problem is she never discussed anything furthering education over sea and why should I hear from her father? It's supposed to be she and I making that decision and not I being teleguided by her family.

On the religious ground, I've no qualms but inserting it as a condition makes it demeaning. He could've discuss it with me on the sideline and not giving commandments.

The time inlaws have a say in a family life is b4 marriage.
all d points the inlaw raised are ok, education, religion, violence.

Family › Re: My Inlaws Giving Conditions. by Ubenedictus(m): 6:10am On Sep 28, 2016

Cutehector:
Total bullshitt. Pls she should find another catholic to get married.

Engrwanted pls look for another girl to marry. Her family cannot come and dictate to you. As if her mum's parents dictated to her father on how to marry her mum.

I remember my grand dad alway consistently gave a condition when my aunts married, he alway told d man it was forbidden to hit his daughter. these are important issues that must be settled b4 marriage.

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