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blueseacats:
How come they did not all leave their parish and attend the burial of that poor man in the village that is not the son of a minister, moreover, I thought the bible said let the dead bury the dead.

probably cos they all didnt know d poor man.

GuyfawkesAB:
Just another religious "merchandise" to sell to gullible Catholics to ask for prayers of intercession for them.

I pity you Catholics and I keep praying for you that your eyes are opened and you come to the light.
Christ has already opened the way for you to pray directly to God.

Hebrews 4
16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

heaven is also a family banquet. we didnt just come to Jesus but to saints and angels and spirits.
Heb 12:22 But you have come to Mount Zion, to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem.
You have come to thousands upon thousands of angels in joyful assembly, 23 to the church of the firstborn, whose names are written in
heaven. You have come to God, the Judge of all, to the spirits of the righteous made perfect, 24 to Jesus the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel.

GuyfawkesAB:
Your Catechist and Father try. See sweet brainwashing. See as you weave bible texts to suit your flawed explanation

He presented his views with scripture, why not refute him with same Scripture?

Sanchez01:
Please, preach this brother. Preach this to them.

I don't understand how a people would call themselves Christians, do things contrary to the teachings and doctrines of the Scriptures and exhibit great dogmas when you try to make them see. In their words, indirectly, Christ is useless. Mary and Saints hold precious spaces in their hearts than Christ.

There is an ancient creed christians have used for over a milenium, d apostles creed, it say to believe in the communion of saints. do u disagree wit it.

herald9:
I DON'T UNDERSTAND CATHOLICS AT ALL...

DO THEY HAVE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES IN HEAVEN

Catholics have more than house of rep in heaven, we have family members in heaven. we are d family of God by covenant. who did reps wen u ve gat family.

Sanchez01:
And why on God's earth would I want to be a Catholic They day I think about it is the day I lose my mind and become and atheist! My point is, you guys should carrying the Bible since most of actions are contrary to the instructions therein. It's not a crime to have your own book. A particular denomination use the book of Mormon, I see no reason why you people can't do the same. Rather, you dwell on the KJV and embed some of your writings in it.

So u dont know the bible is a catholic book? the catholic church was responsible for compiling and preserving d bible.

blueseacats:
That is the Nigerian way of reasoning, senseless and uncalled for, it has not gotten us anywhere . Am only surprised that Rome has not sanctioned them.

why will rome sanction them? priest are free to attend burial.

Beey:
How can a sinner elevate a fellow sinner to the level of sainthood? Roman Catholicism doctrines are indeed amazing.

A fellow christian\s\ with episcopal and apostolic authority can recognise the sanctity of another christian. the church didnt make her a saint, instead they recognised the work of grace in her life and affirmed it at her death.

BE811APP:
But ehen...

You people should make non-Catholics understand more..

Bcuz i have lots of questions in my head...

What questions do u have? wat do u nid to understand? mayb i can clarify.

EnEnPeecee:
For sure the Benin monarchy recently is now an object of mockery. The present Oba has never hide his un-alloyed support for the APC candidate which to me is terribly out of place.
As a father and a traditional ruler, he ought to have been fair to all aspirant.

I will be tempted to call this Oba a JJc who in his inaction failed to learn from his fore-fathers.

If he continue in this manner, the Benin monarchical dynasty will kiss the dust soon. If he is wise, he should retrace his fowl steps so far

The oba of bini elect has thus far stood aloof frm this, he hasnt support anyone. the statement above is from d duke of udo in his personal capacity. it has nothing to do with d omo n'oba

Gombs:
If it did, there was then no point for Jesus coming!




God entered a covenant with Abraham... Not with you or any Christian, you, rather are a child of that covenant since you're Christ's, that now makes you Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Galatians 3 v29 kjv
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.


What promise?



Jesus' blood was shed for the new testament, the new covenant, to replace Moses'. It doesn't imply in any way that you entered a covenant with God.

Like I asked, if you're in a covenant with God, tell me when, how and what's the seal of the covenant. Thanks

Dont mix them up, Christ is d offspring of abraham and all in Christ by faith are also now offspring of abraham and heir of d promise also we are in christ so we are part and parcel of d new covenant. in Christ we have a covenant wit God.

Gombs:
To bring us into fellowship with the Father. Salvation was a means to an end, not Jesus main purpose for coming

1 Corinthians 1:9
1 John 1:1-3

and fellowship with God is usually covenantal, Jesus came to establish that covenant, as man he was d new adam and so could initiate a covenant for humanity, he was also d victim of sacrifice and his blood seal d covenant. it was between man and God. do u reject any of d above?

Gombs:
You're mistaking Abraham for Moses sir.



Christ is the seed of Abraham.




You don't have a covenant with God.







God already thought of Jesus right in the garden when He told the serpent that the seed of the woman will bruise it's head....this was long before Abraham came to the scene.

Thanks

Are u saying there is no new convenan in Christ Jesus?

Gombs:


Borrowed doctrine! Yours is what? Certified?

Yet you said Abraham’s covenant is spent, and can't see how Jesus' covenant was a replacement to Moses' both of which came from Abraham.

You are claiming you have a covenant with God, you can't tell me how and when. You said Jesus' covenant was sealed with blood, I asked you to show one Scripture that remotely said that God entered a covenant with Jesus, you're yet to do so...

Funny fellow

Please are u saYing the sacrifice of Jesus has nothing to do with a new convenant?

sOmetimes d way u guy put it make it sound like God is one angry guy who needs to suck his son blood to be 'satisfied'

mumumugu:
only a video call is alowed so priest can see who he is forgiving

Not really, confession isnt administered by video call

everybody don turn bishop

emmanuel596:
Thanks a lot am more enlightened with this

u're welcome

make i run cOmmot here

emmanuel596:
I have heard of cases were pastors delivers and pray for sick people on phone I want to know if as a Catholic I can just go to a secluded place call a priest and have my confessions

A priest can pray 4 u on phone, but he wont give any sacrament on phone. sacrament has valid form, matter... they require personal presence. confession is a sacrament, it cant be administered on phone or online, these are sacred event, very personal.
So no, baptism, communion, confirmation, confession, anoiting d sick, ordination and matrimony cant be administered online or by phone, u need a minister with d right form and matter to personaly administer sacraments.
besides A phone isnt really safe, ur phone can b tapped, a third party wit d right tech may b listening.

why would u want to confess ur sins throu a phone call?

JMAN05:
Do u think that if there were one man rule over the whole church, that the scriptures would not say it? Rather Paul went to a meeting where James, John and Peter were to receive right hand of fellowship. Gal 2:9

This one man ruling over the universal church is never scripture. As such, any so called history that contradicts scripture is false.

If there were appointment by Peter and Paul, it would never be for any of the appointee to succeed them in a claimed rukership that does not exist.

If there is any such appointment, it would be for such an appointee to represent the apostle in handling matters in such country/congregation. Like Paul telling Titus as regards Crete (Titus 1:5) or Paul giving Timothy an assignment in some congregations. 1tim 3:1-10, 14, 15. Thats a possibility that is scriptural. There were no one man rule nor successor for any previous ruler.

Matt 16:19 tell us that there was one man put in charge of d church.

JMAN05:
So, peter fought for power and got the key, after which Linus fought for power and Jesus gave it to him. Basically, you should fight for power to get it. This is surely not a power issued by Jesus then.

Which key of pope did Jesus give to peter and show us where Peter commissioned bishops for the purposes of replacing him.

So John who is among the pilars in the congregation will be left by Peter and Jesus while Linus and Clement will be picked? We ve not even spoken about Paul.

Where was these Linus and Clement when Paul went to meet James, Peter and John for partnership? Gal 2:9

I guess u cant understand simple english. leadership in the church isnt for the most holy or even d oldest, it is for whom is chosen and given. peter was chosen not john and linus after him. he didnt need to b d most educated he was chosen. the keys were given in matt 16:19 and early xtian writings tel us who succeded peter.

JMAN05:
I said I see catholic source, you are there questioning me. Now you know. It is all catholic claiming Jesus founded RCC.

I guess u have an early xtian writter that say otherwise?

JAWBONE:
There is No record of Peter being made the leader of a particular church denomination in the Bible or handing over to a Linus

The church has no denominations, it is u protestants who started d denomination thing in the 1600AD.

As to records, the bible didnt record everything, it didnt record d death of peter or paul or john, it doesnt tell us d missionary work of andrew, or matthew... but the early christians kept those records and put them down in their writtings, they clearly tell us what happen after peter died and who succeeded him.

JMAN05:
Ubani even you do not know that wiki is not a good source? That first paragraph, I suppose its where the op got his position from, is drawn from Catholic News Service. If you say wiki, you ve said nothing basically.

KIndly correct my username pls. and who say the source is wrong?

JMAN05:
Ubeni why do u think John would be alive and another person will become 'pope'?

that is pretty simply, john was never known to fight for power, he had no reason to. after d apostles dispersed john later headed the church in ephesus and its environs. while Jesus was alive he didnt give d keys to john, do u think john wil start looking for dat position when peter died? no, he knew what had been given to him and what hadn't been given. history shows that peter commission bishops to succed him and after his death they succeded him as leader.

JMAN05:
Am still trying to see ur point, all I see is a catholic source in support of ur claim.

So wiki is a catholic source?

JAWBONE:
If you say peter was the first pope and other popes are his successor...can u tell then who was the second, third, fourth.... etc and trace their lineage to this generation.

D 2nd is linus, then clement, anicletus after those we had several in no particular order pius, sixtus, gregory, damascus, innocent, john... till d present francis.

Nairadays:
I will personally take that with a pinch of salt.

I might be wrong, but our States don't drive employment or have the capacity for massive employment with signs of recession looming. Most of our state capitals are glorified districts with Banks and the private sectors the major employment drivers.

See as osho dey shout for APC rally, he should have opted for the main Edo language rather than English. I Felt he would have connected more.

Those Facebook commenters, plenty na bad Belle, at least FG dey try small small with jobs even with the lingering recession and oil prices dropping badly.

edo state doesnt have one language, there are several edoid langauges, it will be silly to speak one vernacula becos d next guy may not understand it and i dont know any edo person who can speak all edoid languages hence pidgin is d language of choice in d state.

overlord77:
If he has, then my bad. Just that he talks too much. I hope those protesters are not doing it for politics.

he talks alot, that is true, he is an orator. i dont know if politic is involved but many lg worker havent been paid

man49men:
my friends is like you are quarreling with words and sentence to use. who told you papacy evangelize Irish, you don't even know history. maybe you are talking of spreading Catholicism in the western. Real evangelism is done by protestant like matins Luther,john wesely,Charles .G. finney john knor of Scotland.

This futher confirms what i said about your ignorance, ireland was evangelised in d 4th and 5th century by men like paladius and st patrick, matin luther lived about the 16th century and didnt even preach in ireland. Ireland were already christian for over 1000yrs before any of those people above were born, matin luther, wesley and knox werent even concieved when ireland was evangelised.

You need to go and learn a little before u start criticising. Even martin luther wrote that he owes the catholic church for even d bible.

man49men:
pope is not a true believer but a religious figure doom for hell, if he remain in that anti-Christ seat. no good fruit comes out of a bad tree.

This is just your silly, petty, predetermine prejudice base on a story your quasi educated religious teachers told you. you are simply regurgitating ur groups ignorant religious mantra about the pope.


take a look at the post above, see what he said, look at what he condemn and tell me what he said above that is wron and suddenly makes him a bad tree. what is there that is incorrect?

to even underline ur ignorance u claim d papacy is an antichrist seat, the same papacy that spead xtianity across d world, nigeria was evangelised largely by irish missionary, the papacy evangelised ireland, so u owe your christianity to the antichrist abi.

you are just showing the ignorance, pettiness,... that abound in ur protestant circles.