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solite3:
the bible has made it clear that only faith in Jesus saves. All others leads to hell.
Catholism leads straight to hell because it does not preach faith Alone in Christ as the only conditions to everlasting life.
Shalom

Since when did sola fide become the litmus test of becoming a christian, the bible says 'repent, believe and be baptised' elsewhere it says 'if u blive in ur heart that Jesus is Lord and confess with ur mouth that God raised him frm d dead then u are saved'. that is what the bible says but u and ur church has laid up ur doctrine of men and u are now teaching that whoever doesnt hold sola fide is going to hell, stop following doctrines of men.

sekundosekundo:
Pls stop spreading lies, who told you that Peter was the first Pope in Catholic Church.

The writtings of the early christian and pretty much any historic material from around that time on d subject all claim peter was the first bishop of rome i.e pope.

Smithycool:
Ladies and Gentlemen, Would you rather sleep in church and have the ushers wake you up every now and then than stay awake, browsing with your phone?

What could be the cause of sleep in church and its solutions.

Couldn't take more of the pictures as other members awake have their eyes on me.

So many thing can cause sleeping at mass, tiredness and loss of attention are d two main cause of my list, sometime the priest has a part to play, he is charge with leading d people of God in worship... sometimes d parishioners are just dull and prone to sleep, i knew someone who couldn't help sleeping at important event.

since d cause is varied d solution is also varied, people should sleep well in their house b4 coming to church, be attentive and follow what is going on both spiritually, mentally etc... and priest should be lively hand have charisma... lasting people need a crash course on what goes on at mass, d mass is too spiritually deep for anyone to fall asleep.

mrZENographer:
MASS! Why won't they sleep?
They're tired of hailing Mary and the queen of heaven.
That is not a spiritual/godly place. No wonder many of them become atheist and instruments of the devil.

This is another post made from the stand point of ignorance, it is clear you have never been to a catholic mass, if u had u will know we dont go there to 'hail mary' all day.
And just to clarify, a catholic church is a Godly place dedicate, consecrated and set apart for d worship of the one true God, there are no locations more hallowed on earth than catholic churches were men banquet and celebrate amongst angel.
To conclude, if hailing mary is the stuff you were told catholic do, then they should have told u it isn't tiring, d bible says all ages will call her blessed, we are just playing our part and obey d word of God, even when we die people will still hail her, if u fail d stone will hail her because d word of God must be fulfilld. she will b haild now until d end of age

AntiIPOB:
is not their fault walahi,untill catholic abadon hail mary.

Weytin concern mary and pipo wey sleep for church? abi u wan tell me say na only catholic church people dey sleep?

nzgal:
Really. I don't understand the snake in that their logo sef

The snake in the logo is d bronze snake God ask moses to make which is d instrument God used to save them.

. Even the
most awfully failed part of the Okija-Ihiala-Uli-
Egbu-Oguta-Ahoada linking Anambra, Imo and
Rivers states which is not in the captured in this year’s budget is being rehabilitated
because it is considered a national emergency.
It has to be noted that RCC, Julius Berger and
Integrated Services Ltd are among several
companies which moved to sites before the
release of the first quarter of this year’s budget.

Hiswordxray:
If you really what to know then go research on it, you have your Bible and you also have the internet.
Ignorance can be a really big problem.

sorry, please clarify. are u saying biblical christainity is disorganised and full of contradictory teaching?

GOMB

sorry but u contradict d scriptures. there is a new covenant in christ and we are participator in that new covenant.

u have been taught traditions of men or rather traditions of pastor chris

Matthew 26:28
New International Version
This is my blood of the covenant, which is
poured out for many for the forgiveness of
sins.
New Living Translation
for this is my blood, which confirms the
covenant between God and his people. It is poured out as a sacrifice to forgive the sins of many.
English Standard Version
for this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.

a covenant in biblical terms is a contract, a bond, usually between God and man. when Jesus tell us that there is now a new covenant by his blood, he is saying we now have a contract betwen God and us signed, ractified by his blood.

d fact dat GOD made a new covenant means man, i in particular am a participator by faith. dat is wat d bibo say.

did u miss this

Gombs:
When did Jesus enter a covenant with God?

A) on earth
B) in heaven.

the above crossed word made no sense, stop using it...please kindly choose from options A and B.

thanks

It seem you dont understand the word i used so let me change it for u to understand.

Jesus SEALED the new covenant when he died for us, physically he was dying on calvary, mystically he took his blood into d eternal sanctuary in heaven.
Jesus sealed the covenant both on earth and in heaven, on earth he was spilling his blood, in heaven he was offering the covenantal
sacrifice to his father.

i dont need to chose one.
HEB 9 tells the story, read it.

And lastly d correct question is ''when did Jesus mediate a new covenant with God?''

d covenant is not for Jesus, it is for us. Jesus mediates a covenant between God and man

heb9:15 Therefore he is the mediator of a new covenant, so that those who are called may receive the promised eternal
inheritance...

JMAN05:
My response above shows that the key giving to him isn't church leadership. Keys of the kingdom of the heaven, not of the church.

I guess u cant see it because u were taught d kingdom is still in d sky, read in context.

19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be
loosed in heaven. the authority isnt only in heaven they keys of d kingdom of heaven covers both heaven and earth. that was d authority Jesus gave peter.

If u read Mt. 13.47-50 (Parable of the net) you will see that the kingdom of heaven isnt just in heaven it also means the present
Church- and adds that at the end, the wicked will be thrown out of the Church or kingdom, then, the
eschatological kingdom will be manifest.

so my dear the kingdom of heaven includes d church on earth and Jesus gave the keys to peter.

Luckymay:
That's the case, the priest himself does not collect a dime from people, but he acts depending on the information presented to him by the financial secretary of the said organization (CWO, CMO, CYON, CGO. etc)
If the said person tells him (the priest) that the dead did not complete his supposed clearance (which is tantamount to not being worthy of a priest presence) the priest would not show up but will send the cathechist instead.
As to your grand father, what I meant by being up to date does not really imply to his regular presence in church, in fact "don't go to church on Sundays but make sure your money is seen when needed" (I hope you understand my point now)?

I know churches that insist on dues. but the priest in my village didnt, my grandad wasnt paying any dues because he was wit u and when he died no one asked.

but even in parishes that insist on dues the priest doesnt deny a catholic burial or send d catechist because of dues.

Gombs:
When did Jesus enter a covenant with God?

A) on earth
B) in heaven.

JESUS RACTIFIED the covenant when he died for us, physically he was dying on calvary, mystically he took his blood into d eternal sanctuary in heaven.
Jesus ractified the covenant both on earth and in heaven, on earth he was spilling his blood, in heaven he was offering the covenantal sacrifice.

revolt:
they're APC members how would u expect them to come out and speak? The ppl that debunked it wht did u guys say?

What people debunked it, pdp who were debunked by d lg chairmen.

JMAN05:
Am still wondering where u are getting that from. If what you read about sounds you RCC, think twice.

I am getting it from the early xtian, they are catholic

JMAN05:
My response above shows that the key giving to him isn't church leadership. Keys of the kingdom of the heaven, not of the church.

HAHAHA.
what do u understand by 'the kingdom'?

Luckymay:
Your dad wasn't a youth leaving outside Nigeria.
Your dad probably belongs to CMO and they don't always have much to pay for and he pays as at when needed so there wasn't any extra amount to pay.
To cap it all your dad was up to date in the church before he died. So that's why you weren't billed at the church. Sorry. Your grandfather.

my dad was with my mum at old age, he wassnt up to date in church, he recieved the sacraments at home, he didnt attend cmo meetings. Actually cmo pay more dues than the youth and even at that we werent billed. The priest didnt personally collect a dime from us.

revolt:
I swear on my life a very good friend of mine is a special assistant to a local govt chairman, and before this issue came up, one of the biggest complaints they have against osho, (not just him, all or most other state govts), is during jac meetings he orders them on who to settle with local govt funds , not minding if they're broke or not. so this isn't social media propaganda. you're the one trying to spread propaganda

let ur friend or his chairman come out and refute wwhat the other chairmen has. What u have above is call beer palour gossip, its truth magin is pretty low.

joseph1013:
ON MOTHER THERESA AND SAINTHOOD.

The Catholic Church decides who qualifies as a saint. I don't care much for the Catholic church.

I think they are as bad, if not worse, than other religious bodies. Ergo, if they like they can make Hitler a saint. Not my business.

What is d point here? or is this simply a 'we hate catholics' thing.

JMAN05:
All I see is catholic source. Now you know. That's all.

That is because the early xtians were catholics, even d early xtian sources are catholic.

JMAN05:
Am yet to see ur point from that verse.

HAHAHA
why am i not surprised that you see no significance in the fact that Jesus gave the keys to his kingdom to one man? it is probably because u dont care what d bible says but what u teachers told u. u cant see d point in d word of God, u somehow forgot that keys are symbols of authority and that by giving d keys of his kingdom to peter he gave him authority in his church. no wonder u dont see d point in d word of God, u have been filled with d opinions of ur teachers.

Gombs:
I'm saying you don't have a covenant with Jesus.

BUT i have a covenant with GOD ractified by the blood of Jesus, dat is what the scripture teaches. Jesus is the mediator of that covenant.

Gombs:
Fixed.

sorry but u contradict d scriptures. there is a new covenant in christ and we are participator in that new covenant.

u have been taught traditions of men or rather traditions of pastor chris

Matthew 26:28
New International Version
This is my blood of the covenant, which is
poured out for many for the forgiveness of
sins.
New Living Translation
for this is my blood, which confirms the
covenant between God and his people. It is poured out as a sacrifice to forgive the sins of many.
English Standard Version
for this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.

a covenant in biblical terms is a contract, a bond, usually between God and man. when Jesus tell us that there is now a new covenant by his blood, he is saying we now have a contract betwen God and us signed, ractified by his blood.

d fact dat GOD made a new covenant means man, i in particular am a participator by faith. dat is wat d bibo say.

revolt:
NOW ILL NEVER BELIEVE ANYTHING APC SAYS!! Even if lgs are autonomous in nigeria I'm 101% sure edo lgs are not. Oshiomole sat on their funds and dictated what they use it for. Even to the level of commanding their chairmen to pay cronies flex money. Yes. That's how terrible osho became.

this is what happens when u swallow propagada. the edo local govt chairmen who have the info are very clear tha osho doesnt touch there money, what u have above is propaganda
www.vanguardngr.com/2015/06/edo-algon-defends-oshiomhole-over-misappropriation-allegation/
www.nigerianobservernews.com/2015/06/statutory-allocation-oshiomhole-does-not-interfere-algon/

Luckymay:
Do you want to make a refund?

I find it strange, i buried my grand dad sometime ago and d church was the lest place money was spent, nobody ask me to provide huge sums so i find ur story shocking

osarolucky49:
we cannot allow the lineage of OBASEKI that has been cursed by OBA OVORAMWEN take up leadership in Edo. Look at the history of that family, they are betrayal and cannot stand the test of time. A person that has never casted a vote in Edo state before and you just come out of the blue and you want to rule. You see the urge to reap where you haven't sowed still flow in his blood. I am warning Edo people.
OBASEKI WILL BRING DOOM. Be wise and vote IZE-IYAMU

DO u even know that oba erediauwa was proclaimed d reincarnation of cheif agho OBASEKI by oba eweka himself?

do u even know dat obaseki and eweka we very close friend.

Luckymay:
Same thing happened when my brother died in South Africa. The priest and the church kept saying trash. At a point my elder brother became fed up with the whole situation that he wanted to invite another denomination to pray so as to lay my brother to test, but my Mama refuse saying it must be Catholic Church cos my brother was born and baptised in her. My elder brother spent not less than 100k just to clear the supposed bill before the priest came. After that day my brother refused going to Catholic Church. Though my mom is still strong in her.

Pls can u clarify? which bills did u pay that arrived at 100k?

blueseacats:
Somehow they all knew the senetor and left all their parish to go and pay homage ?

They either knew d senator, d dead son or a family member. i recently witness a marriage ceremony wit a huge number of priest and d couples were poor, they just happen to know a lot of priest.

priest a free to attend burials.

sunshine1974:
chai! Stop dis lie ooooo, obaseki lied although especially when he claimed Edo state local governments are autonomous. That was a very big fat lie and u know it. I will advise u change the truth in capital letter to atleadt small letter in order not to make ur lies too obvious

He wasnt lying, local govt in edo are autonomous and recieve their allocation directly from fg. state dont touch local govt money in edo.

HIGHESTPOPORI:
Same debate we watched and saw how Pastor Ize Iyamu was d best,na wa for Apc and Tinubu Nation Newspaper and Afonja Channels twitter

iyamu was busy attacking apc, he didnt bother to tell us his plan for d state.

etin06:
ize-iyamu Neva said what he do to transform Edo he was busy criticising the present adminstration and everybody is clapping for him. I wipe for this country.

Fine observation

OLADD:
That's the part that really got me cracking. The ease at which APC leaders tell lies is really worrisome. It's rather amusing that Obaseki was claiming Local Govts are autonomous in Nigeria when the reverse is the case. From all intent, Ize-Iyamu was more precise in his submissions and he seems more honest than his APC counterpart.

Actually local govt in edo are autonomous their allocations are untouched, even iyamu didnt contest dat, his issue is dat state govt is collect more direct revenue that he thinks belongs to d local govt.