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branhampaul:
Mr. Ubenedictus , Am Not Believing In Him But Christ.. His Just A Messenger Of God Like Other Men Of God..

HEHEHE,

mrZENographer:
You'll kill yourself. Your self delusion baffles me. After quoting 2 verses of expressly written PRAISE, you conclude by changing it to prayer.

Hopefully God save u.

The verses called angels and d host of heaven to join in a prayer of praise, as i said, if david can do it so can i, if d bible show it then i is right.
and lastly God has saved me.

9japride:
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If so that's OK. But pdp really gave them a run for their money, Annenih messed things up in Edo state and pdp past sins are hunting them. Because I was wondering no protest on display election matter. The governor elect doesn't look like a serious minded person to me. Oshomole will control him and I just hope the new governor resist an for of godfatherism and improve on what Oshomole has done. Anyways if Edo state indigenes are ok with d rigging that's good for them. I doubt if any other southern state will take that $hit.

WOrst thing happened in rivers. this election wasnt rigged.

DeSepiero:
Hmmm, I tend to agree, especially on the Catholic priests being atheists.
I personally know two of them who hold a Masters degree in philosophy and often 'sound' like 'atheists'.

Sounding like an atheist doesnt make one an atheist, most philosophers sound like philosopher and some think that is atheistic. those are assumptions, walk up to d priest and ask him if he believes in God, then u'll know for sure.

d topic is stil abt a protestant pastor, pls dont make it a catholic issue.

analice107:
The Antchrist wont be a Chriatian or Catholic. The Antichrist will be an atheist. the world's atheists right now are his recruits.

I thought u guy already concluded this issue and agreed d pope is d antichrist.

masseratti:
lolzz lwkmd let me help you with your kikikikikikiki, you don finish? or we should continue, go and read your history books catholic Padres, Fathers wear white garments, get off your high horse before ignorance kills you, what you know nothing about keeo quiet about it, there are charlatans in every Christian denomination that doesn't makes the body of Christ bad, all false prophets shall be exposed, so Says the bible, its your likes that normally end up with the people you are mocking. In white garments church there are good the bad and the ugly just like in every other denominations.

Catholic padres only wear white in africa, their normal colour is black

reallest:
U re d one dat need education on dis

YOU REALLY NEED TO READ UP.

2357 Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant
sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures.
Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity,141 tradition has always declared that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered."142 They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.
www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2c2a6.htm

analice107:
No. Now that he has gone back to Heaven, is he still son of Mary?

If u dont belive Jesus is GOD, then i certainly have nothing to discuss with u.
have a nice day.

9japride:
Me I know they rigged d election there, but Edo people are not complaining. They are too submissive for my liking. Na them sabi, nothing concern us. Let sleeping dogs lie

Edos arent submissive, when annenih rigged oshomole election, edo was on fire, this election wasnt rigged edo can be broadly divided into benin, esan, etsako, akoko edo..., esan is pdp, etsako and akoko edo is apc, benin is majority apc, every edo man knew who won the election. pdp is just cry wolf.

krendo:
Some don't get it

There is nothing clever about what APC has done

They have simply made nonsense of what's left of our democracy and raped it!

Security agencies were simply asked to prevent anyone not belonging to INEC and APC from they collation and some are celebrating it?

Sorry this democracy will not last very long I am very sure about this!

Nigerians should brace up for a slide towards full blown dictatorship by Buhari, on the other hand the only way Buhari goes is through a Military coup!

The days when election meant anything in Nigeria are over!

When pdp was prevented so also was apc, stop lying dear, it is only suprising it is pdp complaining, all agents, press and observers when evacuted frm d inec building after 11pm of d election day.

Jidibia:
If you have got a lot of energy to burn, please I ain't got non to burn okay. I never told you elections have been free and fair in Nigeria before. But sharing money openly while our security agents watched speaks volumes. And it pisses me off when people come here to say no part of the world where elections are free and fair. They should just say its only African continent and not the entire world. So even with the introduction of card readers we can't still conduct 90% free and fair elections in this 21st century?

money has been shared in elections in nigeria even with polic present. that isnt new.

franciskaine:
were PDP agents not also allowed entrance?

about 11pm inec hadnt recieved all the results from all local government, so they held a closed door meeting with all d stakeholders and postponed d
anouncement of d result. that night every non- inec personel was evacuated from d building, including apc and pdp agent, press and observers. the next morning when d results had all arrived apc and pdp agents were called back into d hall, d big press houses and election observers also came in.
there is nothing fishy about that and it is much saner than rivers election where wike was in inec office while dikeson was been teargassed.

Chigold101:
you are right bro...
But not allowing observers into colation centre is the one i dont understand.

Abi u understand am?

That isnt wrong, about 11pm inec hadnt recieved all the results from all local government, so they held a closed door meeting with all d stakeholder and postponed d anouncement of d result. that night every non-inec personel was evacuated from d build, including apc and pdp agent, press and observers. the next morning when d results had all arrived apc and pdp agents were called back into d hall, d big press houses and election observers also came in.

there is nothing fishy about that.

OKDnigeria:
The summary of what they said is that the election wasn't free and fair. in what other way could they have questioned its legitimacy?

It's sad. Free and fair election seems to have gone with Jonathan

What are u talking about? even in d last presidential election, d so called free and fair election was mared with sharing of money by both parties in edo, d last anambra governorship election that brought obiano also had financial inducement.
all these were present in jonathan's time, stop painting jonathan's election as spotles.

mrZENographer:
As for me, Galatians 3:26-28 says that "we are all begotten in Christ Jesus through our Faith and baptism".
Angels don't have need of Faith in Christ because they at not look for redemption....which is the reason THE SON choose to bear the name CHRIST, neither do they have need for baptism. So they are not in Christ but they are of Christ

....And by him, all things consist.(were created) Colossians 1:17.

i never said d angels need faith or baptism.
EPH1:10
King James Bible

That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in
Christ, both which are in heaven, and which
are on earth; even in him:

AND PAUL ALSO TELLS US WHEN THE FULLNESS OF TIME BEGAN.
GAL 4:4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,...

so we are in d fulness of time where the angel and men are united 'in christ'. so yes d angels are in christ.

Peacefullove:
your points are totally nonsensical. Nobody is named Jesus in heaven , the person named Jesus was given birth to by Mary . for you to claim Jesus is God on other threads but to come here and say he is Son of God display your inconsistency .

you well know that admitting Jesus is God here too will mean Mary is the Mother of God ( Jesus ). but instead you will say he is Son of God just to save face . smh

THAT IS THE PROTESTANT DILEMA. They know Jesus is God, they know he was born by mary, but their doctrines of men, pride and arrogance will prevent them from admitting that mary gave birth to God and thus the mother of GOD.

When someone sees the truth but cannot say it, then he should know he isnt serving God but his pastor.

analice107:
Funny you.

What you shd ask yourself is whether Jesus worshipped, honoured, venerated, or adored the Mary the way you Catholics now do?

Am done here, believe what u like.

DONT DIVERT THE ISSUE, THE CHILD MARY GAVE BIRTH TO, IS HE GOD? YES OR NO

mrZENographer:
Please give scripture verse where Bavid asks the host to join him in prayers. If u don't provide thisverse then this discussion is over because u have nothing to offer but mere words.

I really hope u dont have amnesia becos u seem to forget thing very easily. i already gave u passages dat show david asking d angels and host of heaven to join him in his prayer of praise but suddenly u have forgotten. let me refresh ur memory.
"Bless the Lord, O you his angels, you mighty ones who do his word,
hearkening to the voice of his word!
Bless the Lord, all his hosts, his
ministers that do his will!" (Ps.
103:20-21). And in Psalms 148 "Praise the Lord! Praise the Lord from the heavens, praise him in the heights! Praise him, all his angels, praise him, all his host!" (Ps. 148:1-2).

IN BOTH CASES THE BIBLE GIVES US EXAMPLES OF ASKING ANGLES AND THE HOST OF HEAVEN TO JOIN IN OUR PRAYERS.

branhampaul:
A Lie.. Not The Government Controlling The Church.. But For A Xtain To Obey Rules Were He Reside..
Beside, If A Xtain Is Stubborn Who Will Want To Emulate Him.. No One..

THE CATHOLIC CATECHISM AGREES, A XTIAN SHOULD OBEY D LAW, IT SAYS:
"Those subject to authority should regard those in authority as representatives of
God, who has made them stewards of his gifts: 43 "Be subject for the Lord's sake to every human institution. . . . Live as free men, yet without using your freedom as a pretext for evil; but live as servants of God."44 Their loyal collaboration includes the right, and at times
the duty, to voice their just criticisms of that which seems harmful to the dignity of persons and to the good of the community."

BUT THE CHURCH OF GOD MUST BE FREE FROM EXTERNAL COERCION AS MUCH AS POSIBLE, HENCE U CANT JUDGE A POPE TEACHING DOCTINE IN A CIVIL COURT, THAT IS WHY D POPE HAS HIS OWN CITY STATE.

branhampaul:
Thats Even Better.. They Called Jesus Christ 'Devil'..

So u are comparing branham and Jesus?

Iseoluwani:
You have nothing to say but to go back to self defence.

How do u explain the adoration of Mary or angels or even Saints.

How do explain vain repetition of reciting the Hail Mary, the creed, the roasay,.

Purpose of angelus?

Confessing your sins to a mere mortal like you. To intercede for you. Many false doctrine.


Pls spare me your hypocrisy

These issues have been answered over and over on nairaland, and if u do me d courtesy of presenting them one after d other, i gladly provide u with answers.

analice107:
They were taken to a pool.
Mr man, Scriptures interpret Scriptures.

If there was a need for Baptism and everyone knows that Baptism is done by immersion, you don't expect that anytime its done it will be mentioned that they were Baptised in the pool or in a river.

between Cornelius who was where there were pools of water, and the Ethiopian Enoch who was travelling in the desert, which of them would ve been more likely to be baptised by sprinkling?
Yet, the Ethiopian Eunuch was baptised by immersion.

Anyways, you can never accept the truth with the Catholic blinders on.
Good luck.

HAHAHAHA, where does d bible say they were taken to a pool? you are lying on the bible! that is what happens when u allow ur doctrine of men to cloud d bible and clear reason, cornelius was preached to in his house, he recieved the holy spirit there and was baptised there. they didnt go to a pool or river, nowhere does the bible say that. dont lie on d bible please!

analice107:
Your lies wont take you anywhere.

There was Catholic Church in the First Century?

They do it today because of the criticism they face.

You stand and insist on defending falsehood, yet called me proud. pls shift.

YES, the catholic church was there in d first century, and early xtian writting from the 1st century shows baptism by pouring and immersion. these documents are available unless u are just interested in making false accusation!

if u dont know something ask questions and stop been ignorant. pouring and immersion have been there since d 1st cent and has been practiced since then till today. catholic church didnt start her practices yesterday. be informed

Iseoluwani:
Why would I argue with a Catholic that has been brainwashed. I attended a Catholic school, for 6years. Saw everything, they will never subscribe to correction. You are not different from them

I've been around protestants all my life i have seen a worst type of brainwashing among them.
if u give a catholic a passage that u think is against his doctrine he will explain. if u show a protestant a bible passage against his doctrine he is going to start repeating wat his pastor said.

u guy are worst, arrogance mixed with ignorance.

reallest:
Last time I checked Catholic Church is still in support of lez,so all Catholic lezbian see Yahweh as a monster?nice thinking u ve got here man

THE catholic church has never been in support of lez, educate urself.

branhampaul:
Sure! I Believe In Christ.

hehehe, So u are a follower of william branham, the alledged prophet who was accused of false prophesy and insanity by his fellow protestants.

[quote author=Iseoluwani post=49809939][/quote]u have nothing to add to d discussion it seems.

mrZENographer:
Now cowards don't know the diff btw prayer and praise so let me define it.

THIS SHOWS UR LEVEL, you are very immature, u have turn a polite issue to an insult contest.

PRAYER is supplication to God for something the requires attention or solution.

PRAISES is extolling God for whom he is. The ALMIGHTY, JEHOVAH, THE LORD OF HOSTS".

praise is prayer, i already wrote on that. if david can ask d host of heaven to join him in prayer so can i

The saints and angels shall indeed be united in Heaven. How does that support angels praying for us. It does not revoke the passage "Christ died not for angels but men."

the thing in heaven and on earth are already united, christ didnt die for d angel, but he united heaven and earth IN CHRIST, SO YES, THE ANGELS ARE IN CHRIST.

Iseoluwani:
Catholics n false doctrine

Protestants and false accusation+ignorance

mrZENographer:
Now cowards don't know the diff btw prayer and praise so let me define it.

PRAYER is supplication to God for something the requires attention or solution.

PRAISES is extolling God for whom he is. The ALMIGHTY, JEHOVAH, THE LORD OF HOSTS".

You still haven't given any sound scripture but still pointing at one verse, just to prove urself right for something unacceptable. Gambling with ur soul is a dangerous game?

The saints and angels shall indeed be united in Heaven. How does that support angels praying for us. It does not revoke the passage "Christ died not for angels but men."

Look up again. Can u see the diff btw praise and prayer.

SO YOUR CHURCH DIDNT TEACH U THAT THERE IS PRAYER OF PRIASE, PRAYER OF THANKSGIVING, ETC. Prayer isnt just supplication, praise is prayer.
There are different forms of prayer such as petitionary prayer, prayers of supplication, thanksgiving, and praise. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prayer

Sarassin:
I assume you are referring to St. Francis de Sales, erstwhile Bishop of Geneva who lived 1567-1622. What is your sourcing for your claim that he died "close to China" and his "bones were shipped back"?

Francis de Sales died on December 28, 1622 at a Lyon monastery hut whilst in the entourage of the Duke of Savoy. It is well documented even by the Catholic Encyclopaedia.

I MADE A MISTAKE, I MEANT ST FRANCIS XAVIER

analice107:
They were commanded to be Baptised in the house?

Hahahahahahahahaha. oh this guy and his defends of falsehood. That Peter went to Cornelus's house doesn't mean the Baptism took place in the house. You are a clever Catholic, trying to justify Falsehood by resurrectiin
The pattern had always been by immersion, was it peter who started the sprinkling?
Of all the passages that talks about baptism, you picked this one because it wasn't specific.
Satan holds unto scriptures like this to deceive those without the Holy Spirit.

Have you asked yourself why Jesus will leave Galilee and go to Jordan to be Baptised? If sprinkling was in the plan of Baptism why didn't Christ just stay back and get baptised by sprinkling?

The very first person who did Baptism went to a River and everybody travelled to go over there to be baptised, and here you are telling lies because the RCC says so.

was there river in cornelius house? was there a river there? stop lying