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Christianity Etc › Re: If Peter Was The First Pope.......................? by Ubenedictus(m): 9:14am On Nov 14, 2015

Bobbysworld28:
Ur claim is totally unfounded. James was talking abt a support system of believes here not classes of priesthood. Choi, u r still going round in circles

sorry dear bt she does have a fine point. The apostle james clearly says call a presbyter, dat is actually d minister of d church, the guy incharge of preaching, breaking of bread and laying of hands for a new presbyter.

Whether u chose to ignore it or not but scripture show dat out of d 'kingdom of priest' some where called out to minister to d people. There was a ministerial priesthood.

Christianity Etc › Re: If Peter Was The First Pope.......................? by Ubenedictus(m): 9:05am On Nov 14, 2015

Bobbysworld28:
Pls read the previous verse slowly and properly. The keys given are to the church, not Peter as a person.
Comprehension is proper, it wont hurt u

what i read is, you are cephas and upon this cephas i will build my church..., i will give YOU the keys of the kingdom...

That is pretty clear my dear, peter was given d keys, he also had his name changed from simon to cephas. Unles u are trying to misinterprete d word of God.

Christianity Etc › Re: If Peter Was The First Pope.......................? by Ubenedictus(m): 9:02am On Nov 14, 2015

accountable:
The bible never spoke in regard of any man as infallible. God alone is infallible and His word alone is exclusively inerrant.

Psa 12:6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.*
Pro 30:5-6 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

Only the self conceited would consider himself infallible. Even the apostles didn't think they were infallible:
Gal 1:8-9 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

lol, please read d passage above again. Men can be infallible when under d influence of d inerrant holy spirit. Paul was infallible when he wrote romans, corithian, eph...etc, peter was infallible when he wrote d epistles of peter.
If u dont agree wit d above dat mean ur bible is fallible.

The apostles were so sure they possesed infallibility that they commanded the early christians not to accept any tin different frm what they were taught even if an angel came down to teach it. Dat means d apostles certianly believe that theis teaching were without error.

Or do u think they taught errors and still admonished d earlx xtians not to accept anything different?

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Christianity Etc › Re: If Peter Was The First Pope.......................? by Ubenedictus(m): 8:43am On Nov 14, 2015

Scholar8200:
Going further to 1 Corinth 9:5, Paul hinted that Cephas/Peter still led about a wife.

that is actually rightly translated as a female christian by all early christains, d greek word there is a sister who is a woman.

It seems ur translators are playing wit u.

Christianity Etc › Re: If Peter Was The First Pope.......................? by Ubenedictus(m): 8:40am On Nov 14, 2015

Bobbysworld28:
So it is wrong for anyone to assert that she was dead or that Peter seperated from her once he came to Jesus.
I dont think Jesus would have condoned such irresponsibility, do you?

my dear, the bible doesn't hint anywhere that she was alive at the time. Dont u find it interesting dat peter mother-in-law was identified but his wife was nowhere to b found?

Christianity Etc › Re: When A Christian Person Claims That Islam Spread By Sword.... by Ubenedictus(m): 8:36am On Nov 14, 2015

Hehehe,
d op just said christianity is reponsible for the world wars.
How can I take him seriously?

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm A Pentecostal, I Attended A Catholic Church For The First Time And... by Ubenedictus(m): 9:23pm On Nov 13, 2015

dolphinheart:
Nop, just saying that all man requires for salvation was written down so that in the future, no man or group of men can come up and bring a doctrine or teaching claiming its from the holy spirit talking to him or them. With the scriptures we can know fake holy spirit from real holy spirit. You and I do know that a lot of people do claim that the holy spirit is showing them things. Some na only disaster e dey show them .

where did u get this from? Where did d bible say it contains all that is needed for salvation. My bible kips pointing to other sources it neva claims to contain d fullnes of truth. Infact many letter were written as appetizer for when d apostles come. They were neva written to contain all!

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Christianity Etc › Re: Does Anyone Know Who And How The Bible Was Compiled by Ubenedictus(m): 8:31pm On Nov 13, 2015

JustTara:
That's more like it. 1st Clement though.... that's a real book?

yes it is a book written by pope st clement a disciple of d apostles to d corithians. Many churches read it in d church.

Christianity Etc › Re: If Peter Was The First Pope.......................? by Ubenedictus(m): 5:26pm On Nov 13, 2015

Scholar8200:
Which the text implies to be brief lest either be tempted as a result of incontinence.

But Paul's mention of Cephas and other apostles leading about a sister, a wife contradicts the claims of Tertullian and yours here?
Have we not power to lead about a sister, a wife, as well as other apostles, and as the brethren of the Lord, and Cephas
1 Corinth 9:5
Since you accept that Peter (who you call the first pope but Bible reveals he was Apostle to the Jews Galatians 2:7, had a wife, why change that verse as regards to other apostles?

Tertullian: Peter had a wife but just like the other apostles, led about a sister as a helper. Other apostles were not married but had sister-helpers. (the very suggestion places a question mark on their integrity).

Pope St. Clement: They had wives and took their wives with them (permanently denying them of conjugal relations while converting them back to just sisters!)

Besides, why would Paul single out a sister? Afterall in Romans 16 for example many assisting saints were mentioned (not just one 'consort') and even a couple, Aquilla and Priscilla). When they embarked on a missionary journey, the only helper was John Mark then why the emphasis on a sister helper if that was all that was involved?

Moreover, in 1Corinth 7 Paul clearly stated that he was a celibate which I believe explains 1 Corinth 9:5! - he was not leading about a wife like other apostles did because he was a celibate, a eunuch for the kingdom's sake being a path he chose for himself!

now the both of you are dancing around, some married some weren't...

Christianity Etc › Re: If Peter Was The First Pope.......................? by Ubenedictus(m): 5:08pm On Nov 13, 2015

Scholar8200:
Mark 1:30 tells us:
But Simon's wife's mother lay sick of a fever...

Now will Simon separate from his lawfully wedded wife and keep/lead about other sisters as companion/helpers?! Is that proper?

When Jesus clearly said that,''...what therefore God has joined together, let not man put asunder'' Matthew 19:6b

actually, scripture only identifys peters mother in law in dat passage, it doesnt hint whether or not d wife was alive or dead.

Christianity Etc › Re: If Peter Was The First Pope.......................? by Ubenedictus(m): 5:04pm On Nov 13, 2015

Scholar8200:
Kindly present your source of the original greek where that comma between sister and wife was not placed. (At least I gave mine!)

it is common knowledge that d original scriptures do not have commas

Christianity Etc › Re: Does Anyone Know Who And How The Bible Was Compiled by Ubenedictus(m): 4:45pm On Nov 13, 2015

JustTara:
You're sounding more like “I don't believe you've finished reading and understanding the books in the Bible". Nevertheless, finished reading?...yes. Understanding? I would admit to not really understanding everything yet. But that really isn't a valid point to why I shouldn't ask for more books.

many of d books are still around, 1st clement was considered, u can browse it. I also blive some were lost because d church didnt preserve dem afta it considered dem heretic.

Christianity Etc › Re: Catholics, Is This Virgin Mary? by Ubenedictus(m): 11:02am On Nov 10, 2015

vooks:
Why was Saul condemned? Going to the witch or attempting to contact Samuel?

Saul erred in attempting to contact a dead Samuel. While alive, he freely engaged him but once dead, it was sin to contact him

Catholicism is recycling long debunked heresy of contacting the dead by pretending that it is fellowship of the body of Christ. Hell is beckoning

Am sure Satan is thoroughly amused at your gullibility.

Now, what is the difference between a Catholic chatting with a dead Paul and a primitive Igbo appeasing his dead grandfather at a shrine?

what is the difference between a catholic chatting with Paul and Jesus chatting with elijah?

Christianity Etc › Re: Catholics, Is This Virgin Mary? by Ubenedictus(m): 10:59am On Nov 10, 2015

vooks:
Saul sought the services of a dead man just like Catholics do

catholics make discussion with alive men like Jesus did.

MT 17:1 After six days Jesus took with him Peter, James and John the brother of James, and led them up a high mountain by themselves. 2 There he was transfigured before them. His face shone like the sun, and his clothes became as white as the
light. 3 Just then there appeared before them Moses and Elijah, talking with Jesus.
MT 17:4 Peter said to Jesus, "Lord, it is good for us to be here. If you wish, I will put up three shelters--one for you, one
for Moses and one for Elijah."
MT 17:5 While he was still
speaking, a bright cloud
enveloped them, and a voice from the cloud said, "This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am
well pleased. Listen to him!"

we are simply following Jesus

Christianity Etc › Re: Catholics, Is This Virgin Mary? by Ubenedictus(m): 1:23am On Nov 10, 2015

vooks:
Saul sought the services of a dead man just like Catholics do

lol the bible actually gives d reason. Don't lie on d bible, it say he broke faith wit God by disobeying his command and consulting a medium of guidiance. The bible doesnt say he was condemn for asking angels and saints for prayers or praying in d body of Christ.
Dont insult scriptures.

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm A Pentecostal, I Attended A Catholic Church For The First Time And... by Ubenedictus(m): 8:21pm On Nov 09, 2015

dolphinheart:
Catholic clergy, action speaks louder than words.

sorry dear, one pic is a bishop in a nazi background, d other are prelates in germany. What does dat prove?

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm A Pentecostal, I Attended A Catholic Church For The First Time And... by Ubenedictus(m): 8:15pm On Nov 09, 2015

dolphinheart:
The church is not held responsible for the sins of individual members even if it does not condemn such sins. The church is judged based on what it does with or the actions it takes before or after the individual members sin .

Now the question is, did the church as a body order the killings of people?
Did they condemn the atrocities mentioned?
What did they do to the member(s) who committed the sin .?
What happens to the church if it allows sin to creep in

the church did condemn d nazis!
Are u aware dat every abled man at 18 was immediately and forcefully conscripted into d army? Since ur idea is to punish every sinner, how do u punish d youth forced into a war he neither asked for or agree to?

U like to see everything as black and white even wen most times dat isnt realistic.

Christianity Etc › Re: Catholics, Is This Virgin Mary? by Ubenedictus(m): 8:08pm On Nov 09, 2015

vooks:
Why was Saul condemned? Going to the witch or attempting to contact Samuel?

Saul erred in attempting to contact a dead Samuel. While alive, he freely engaged him but once dead, it was sin to contact him

Catholicism is recycling long debunked heresy of contacting the dead by pretending that it is fellowship of the body of Christ. Hell is beckoning

Am sure Satan is thoroughly amused at your gullibility.

Now, what is the difference between a Catholic chatting with a dead Paul and a primitive Igbo appeasing his dead grandfather at a shrine?

the bible tell us why it says he broke faith with God by disobeying a command and consulting a medium in search of guidiance, is dat not clear enough? Why are u trying to make d bible say what it doesnt say?

D difference btw d catholic and d other guy is dat one is praying to God in d communion of saints while d other is appeasing a dead man as though d dead is god.

Christianity Etc › Re: If Peter Was The First Pope.......................? by Ubenedictus(m): 7:43pm On Nov 09, 2015

accountable:
@ ubenedictus. You are right that the emphasy of 1 timo 3:2 is on monogamy. Appears that ur understanding of scriptures is commendable. So do u agree that obligatory celibacy is unscriptural? Just answer based on scripture not church doctrine.

it seem juliano has answered d question, there is enough scripture to base d discipline of clerical celibacy.

Christianity Etc › Re: Catholics, Is This Virgin Mary? by Ubenedictus(m): 7:36pm On Nov 09, 2015

plappville:
@Op, this doctrine of worshipping or honouring the dead is pure paganism. The scripture warns:

Revelation 22:18-19
I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book, and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book

it seems u are quoting d bible for fancy, that passage doesnt concern dis discussion at all. It refers exclusivelx to d thing written in d book of revelation.

Christianity Etc › Re: If Peter Was The First Pope.......................? by Ubenedictus(m): 7:33pm On Nov 09, 2015

accountable:
@ Ubenedictus Celibacy is a discipline not a dogma.
I guess that:-) by this statement u mean to tell us that Catholic priests can now freely choose whether to marry or not. I wish that were true. What do u say to quote below.

"""The synod fathers clearly and forcefully expressed their thought on this matter in an important proposal which deserves to be quoted here in full: "While in no way interfering with the discipline of the Oriental churches, the synod, in the conviction that perfect chastity in priestly celibacy is a charism, reminds priests that celibacy is a priceless gift of God for the Church and has a prophetic value for the world today. This synod strongly reaffirms what the Latin Church and some Oriental rites require that is, that the priesthood be conferred only on those men who have received from God the gift of the vocation to celibate chastity (without prejudice to the tradition of some Oriental churches and particular cases of married clergy who convert to Catholicism, which are admitted as exceptions in Pope Paul VI's encyclical on priestly celibacy, no. 42). The synod does not wish to leave any doubts in the mind of anyone regarding the Church's firm will to maintain the law that demands perpetual and freely chosen celibacy for present and future candidates for priestly ordination in the Latin rite"""

Or do u mean the DESCIPLINE of OBLIGATORY clerical celibacy as in the above quote? If it is an obligatory descipline then we are saying the same thing.

there is trully a law that mandate celibacy in the the latin arm of the catholic church but that law doesnt apply in d greek arm of d church. It is still wrong to assume all catholic priest are under mandatory celibacy.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Catholics, Is This Virgin Mary? by Ubenedictus(m): 7:33pm On Nov 09, 2015

plappville:
The bible didnt teach that the dead can pray. Pray for urself.

so u mean those who are in heaven can't talk to God?

Christianity Etc › Re: Catholics, Is This Virgin Mary? by Ubenedictus(m): 7:15pm On Nov 09, 2015

vooks:
Saul was condemned for contacting a dead Samuel. Why would a Catholic contact a dead Paul and pretend it is different?

1 Chronicles 10:13 English Standard Version (ESV)

13 So Saul died for his breach of faith. He broke faith with the Lord in that he did not keep the command of the Lord, and also consulted a medium, seeking guidance.

because catholics do not consult mediums seeking guidiance. We do not practice necromancy (divining using d dead), instead we pray in d body of Christ. It is funny d new generation church who have little knowledge of what d early church practice will go about confusing themselves. Do urself a favour and read up on d early xtians.

Christianity Etc › Re: . by Ubenedictus(m): 2:11pm On Nov 08, 2015

Avoidhellfire:
More body parts worshiped by Catholics

only protestants who seems ignorant of what Christianity is all about make these emotional claims.

Christianity as a religion began in d burial grounds, some women went to pay respect to a dead jew as was d jewish custom (by anionting his corpse) and found the corpse was nowhere to be found! That is how christianity began. When the authorities clamped down on d early xtians they all ran back into d burial grounds (read up on the catacombs), cities where homes could accommodate worshippers used homes while others used catacombs, when (a) christian(s) is killed his bones are gathered together and buried in d very place of worship, infact d altar in d place of worship were d graves of matyrs (it is funny that protestanism began after dat period nd now protestants claim to know every ancient xtian practice because they were given a book which doesnt even cover half of the early xtian practices). On d aniversary of d matyrs death they gather together around d grave of d matyr and ask for prayers.

The early xtians believe dat when they worship heaven and earth came together to give God adoration, d remains of d dead were consider holy as they were d temples of d holyspirit (d u know d bones of a prophet worked a miracle in d bible?), d early xtians had no problems with images and d relics of matyrs. When xtianity was granted freedom d early xtians brought some of d relics into d new edifice and still buried their matyrs in their churches (moving d remains of great men is biblical). St peters basilica is built upon d remains of d apostle Peter.

So yes, it is very posible to met d remains of a matyr in a catholic church infact, catholics are proud to have them like d earlx xtians were but it has nothing to do with paganism or occultism, anybody who know abt early xtianity will know d practice is distinctly Christian.

Correction not only catholics have them, all ancient churches have them, d orthodox church have dem, d oriental church too and some anglican churches. It is a xtian practice

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Politics › Re: Why Apc’s Alhassan Was Declared Taraba Governor — Tribunal by Ubenedictus(m): 11:24pm On Nov 07, 2015

Duru1:
There was no conduct of primaries by APC in Imo State yet the Muhammadu Buhari's tribunal upheld the election of Okorocha. In fact, the report reaching us had indicated that Okorocha's son in-law was named not nominated as APC candidate Imo State. Nigeria is a joke and it seems worse everyday.

the question u should ask is: did the pdp counsellors make d case.

Christianity Etc › Re: If Peter Was The First Pope.......................? by Ubenedictus(m): 3:12am On Nov 06, 2015

accountable:
And peter had a wife (1 Corinth 9:5, Matthew. 8 : 14). When did popes stop having wives?
If the Bible says that a bishop MUST be the husband of one wife( Timo 3:2). And the pope is the bishop of Rome...... And the catholic leadership stems from the early church. When did it become forbidden for bishop and priest to marry?
Just thinking..........

u are reading d bible wrong, timothy says 'd bishop should b a husband of one wife', d emphasis is on 'ONE'. That is he must not practice polygamy. There are still married priests in d catholic church till date.

Celibacy is a discipline not a dogma.

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Christianity Etc › Re: If Peter Was The First Pope.......................? by Ubenedictus(m): 2:59am On Nov 06, 2015

accountable:
If Peter was the first pope and he erred in Gal 2:11-14, when did catholic popes become infallible.
Still thinking..........

infallibility is a matter of teaching not practice! The popes can be sinners and imperfect like Peter, but they can not authoritatively teach heresy like peter, his authoritative teachings are infallible.
Hope that clarify ur confusion.

Christianity Etc › Re: If Peter Was The First Pope.......................? by Ubenedictus(m): 2:53am On Nov 06, 2015

accountable:
If Peter said that all believes were priests( 1 Peter 2: 5,9) , and he was the first pope, when did the rules change?

the rules didn't change, d doctrines never change. The catholic church still teaches that all believers are priests. So u dont know dat?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Catholics, Is This Virgin Mary? by Ubenedictus(m): 8:41pm On Nov 05, 2015

vooks:
Necromancy is contacting the dead

i haven't learnt much on nairaland but i learnt something one day from pastor aio.

Mancy, refers to d art of foretelling d future(divination), the is actually many types of mancy hydromancy is foretelling d future (divination) using water. Necromancy is not contacting d dead, necromancy is foretelling d future or divining using the dead.
Catholics don't do that, divination and future telling are condemned in catholicism, the communion of saints has nothing to do with divination or fortune telling. That means we do not practice necromancy.

Christianity Etc › Re: Help: Which Authority? The Bible Or The Catholic Church by Ubenedictus(m): 11:52am On Nov 05, 2015

uboma:
Your Pope who is the highest on the hieracy of the Catholic Church is as imperfect like you and i. He is a sinner just like the Bible rightly pointed out that we are all sinners.

Your doctrines therefore cannot be accurate. Your doctrines are simply human traditions formulated to brainwash people like you.

paul was also imperfect, he was also a sinner but he taught perfect doctrines.

Your argument is fallacious and ur logic wrong.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Should Catholic Tradition Have Equal Or Greater Authority Than The Bible? by Ubenedictus(m): 11:50am On Nov 05, 2015

PastorAIO:
Why is the book of Maccabees rejected while the book of Esther is accepted in the bible? What are the reasons?

What is the evidence that the Alexandrian manuscripts were written by Satan? Or inspired by Satan?

Did Jesus ever quote form Esther as being a part of scripture?

Christianity Etc › Re: Help: Which Authority? The Bible Or The Catholic Church by Ubenedictus(m): 11:33am On Nov 05, 2015

uboma:
I see no need to engage you on any further conversation on this issue because like i pointed out earlier, you have been brainwashed beyond repair.

In your ignorance you have chosen to promote your false teachings/doctrines.

Earlier you said that the Bible is not straight-forward. If a supposed Christian like you could say that, then why should i continue conversing with you. You and your like minds are simply APOSTATES.

you are trying to run with ur tail between ur legs! U cant even tell who compiled d bible yet u call me ignorant.

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