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truthislight: are you "christian" or "Jewish?
1. Who gave the directive for such rosary worship? Do you just decide for yourselves how to worship God?

2. Your bible statement is erroniouse.
Should we abandon christianity because those claiming christianity today have gone astray? No, the right way is there in the bible still.
Should we abandon the bible because you have gone off on a tangent off the bible? No.
All men will answer for himself.
Your claim to have a link with those that brought the epistle of christ apostles together does not make the bible your own.
This are the epistles of christ apostles through the holy spirit meant for christ followers, that you deviate does not mean that RCC deviation is cause by the bible.
The bible still remain for all followers of christ since it was meant for them, infact, it was meant for all of mankind.

3. The head of the christian congregation is christ and not peter.

Sticking to the instruction of the apostles is the right way to follow christ, therein lies the christian manuals.
How proud are you for the numbers of your fellow RCC members that have turned atheist?
That ^ i think is an indicator to what end RCC is taking people to with the obvious deviation from the instruction for christians in the NT.

Following the bible is safer considering that the gate is narrow.
Dont you think so?

frosbel: praying with the rosary is Pagan , period !!

How on earth did the Catholics invent this pagan worship , since Jesus never prayed with , or asked his followers to , pray with a rosary.

alexleo: Thanks a lot frosbel. You received genuine salvation. May God continue to draw you closer to him. Amen.
does it mean that the charismatic prays the rosary? I ve heard them preach the real message of salvation and think they dont. I may be wrong though.

Logicboy03: True......but they are not as corrupt as the pope or the vatican guys

The Babylonian people believed all the lies of Semiramis, and she was then crowned QUEEN OF HEAVEN. She later gave birth to her son and named him Tammuz. By the way, this so called “Queen of Heaven” was also called Iishtar. In today’s world, that word is pronounced, EASTER.
So, is the Mary of Rome the same as the Mary of Babylon? Truth is, Catholics the world over call Mary QUEEN OF HEAVEN do they not? When they pray the Rosary, as somedo on a daily basis, they must recite the prayer entitled, “Hail Holy Queen.”
From the earliest ages of the Catholic Church a Christian people, whether in time of triumph or more especially in time of crisis, has addressed prayers of petition and hymns of praise and veneration to the Queen of Heaven
. And never has that hope wavered which they placed in the Mother of the Divine King, Jesus Christ; nor has that faith ever failed by which we are taught that Mary , the Virgin Mother of God, reigns with a mother's solicitude over the entire world, just as she is crowned in heavenly blessedness with the glory of a Queen:
www.remnantofgod.org/evilqueen.htm

ijawkid: Which mother and whose mother??.....oboy you don start again o...........

Na because God no dey konk people head again na him make all this nonsense dey take place...............

Mary is obtaining nothing from Jesus for you and the rest catholics.........smh!!!!.........

Boomark: I said they are not Christians but idol worshipers trying to spoil the good name of Christians.

truthislight: what did he say that is not the truth from the bible?
Between him and you that is defending RCC who is scoffing?
Read him again, but slowly this time:

truthislight: cor. Has first and second, which do you mean?

Well, if you mean 1cor. 7:32-35.

Does tha 1cor. Reads like "forbidden to marry"?

truthislight: ^^^
Good if that ^^^ is the truth.
So, can your priest decide to get marie now if they want to and remain in your priest hood still?
It is either you are a bold face liar here or you are telling the truth here.
If they dont have that option, then they are being conditioned:
"They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth." - 1 Timothy 4:3
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See the full passage:
"Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of Demons; Speaking lies in hypocrisy:
having their conscience seared with a hot iron; FORBIDDING TO MARRY, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth." (1 Timothy 4:1-3

truthislight: story!
"They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth." - 1 Timothy 4:3
deal with that ^^^ and not me.
Is the catholic church not following what the word of God said or they have another word of God?
"They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth." - 1 Timothy 4:3
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Its you against that ^^^. QED.

Paschal007: Lol funny thread. Me thinks God is an Arsenal fan, i mean look at the way we're sacrificing all our best players. See how those that calls themselves red devils are winning. Our football is not of this world.

wiegraf: That is correct! It is not by force to live! I'm not suggesting we encourage it though (or most of the things in that list actually). But I do think in certain cases assisted suicide is valid. It's very, very tricky to implement though, but mature countries should be able to implement it.
I now expect the people who want to complain about my calling certain countries 'mature' to start b1tching in 3,2,1....

Logicboy03: lol how ignorant. The corruption in Nigerian universities is nothing home to write about.

Goshen360: ^
Oga mi, please don't misquote or misunderstand me o. I NEVER teach once saved forever saved o. I was drawing analogy perhaps. Thank you.

turnstoner: Do you know the level of immorality in Nigerian Universities?

wiegraf: But he does have the right to be a victim if he so chooses. Supposing you give all your 1st month salary to your church despite not exactly swimming in cash, as an atheist I could come in and say you're a victim, does that mean it should be a crime?

Dogohson: The god of this world has blinded their minds so that the light of the glorious gospel will not penetrate them. How I pray for the catholics to come to the knowledge of 1 Timothy 2 : 5. There is only one mediator between God and man, and that's Jesus Christ, not Mary or Angels nor dead saints as they claim. They also claim that Peter was the first pope, but Bible tells us that Jesus healed Peter's mother inlaw. Why doesn't ur popes marry. There are many other anomally activities that goes on in the catholic, they just don't seem or even want to embrace the truth. May God's will be done my people.

Ishilove: Come muskeet, join us. Take a drag of the premium ish. . .

Ishilove: Ah great. Someone loonier than Buzu

Ishilove:

I seriously doubt I want to be the vehicle of the propagation of more obadiad777s. One obadiah is enough for this world .
Besides, I don't wanna smoke ugu and grow dada

Goshen360: First, when I said filled with the Spirit (notice my capitalization here and in the comment you responded to) - That's how scripture distinguish between Holy Spirit and human or other evil spirits. By that Capitalization, I meant Spirit of God not spirit as in human spirit or other demonic/satanic spirit(s). I think you're the one mixing things up as you capitalized you "S" when you mentioned spirit of disobedience, lying, stealing etc.

Now, here is the truth you just said - "we know light and darkness can not co exist and whom the son of man sets free is free indeed". If Christ set us free and we're free INDEED. Why do we then attend further unending deliverance sessions year in, year out? This means what Christ did was free but NOT free INDEED.




@ Bold in black. I agree with you BUT NOT Christians.

@ Bold in red. When a Christian is born again and still indulges in some habits that doesn't glorify God, THAT'S NOT THE DEVIL ANYMORE, THAT'S THE WORK OF THE FLESH! Such Christian has to train and discipline his/her flesh, renew his/her mind through the word of God and prayer and fasting if possible. Such Christian has to put his/her body (UN-regenerated part) under subjection. THAT'S NOT THE DEVIL OR SATANIC BONDAGE, THAT'S TO CRUCIFY THE FLESH!...because your flesh as you said, is never born again and always at war with the spirit.

New Living Translation
Don't you realize that you become the slave of whatever you choose to obey? You can be a slave to sin, which leads to death, or you can choose to obey God, which leads to righteous living. - Romans 6:16




@ Bold in black. So your interpretation of working out our salvation with fear and trembling means engaging in an UN-ending deliverance?

@ Bold in red. When I was a baby Christian (I do not claim to know it all now though), my former church always pray the prayer of Jabez in an attempt to break generational curse(s). When I understood what Christ did on the cross and have come to accept full redemption in Christ Jesus, I understand there's NO generational curse for those who are in Christ Jesus.

King James 2000 Bible
Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangs on a tree. - Galatians 3:13

In this verse, there's the part that says we're redeemed (past tense) from the curse of the law. However, there's a deeper or greater dimension BEYOND being redeemed from curse of the law and that's BEING MADE (Past tense) A CURSE. How can a Christian STILL carry curse when Christ has already being made a curse? When a Christian still carry so called generational curse, it's either such Christian doesn't know his/her right and privilege in Christ or such Christian is masquerading (I do not by any means judge). No Christian in the early Church ever went for constant deliverance session.




@ Bold in black. I agree with you and that's why we need the Holy Spirit to help us pray for we know not what to pray but the Spirit helps us to pray.

@ Bold in red. You don't believe in constant deliverance and yet you advocate deliverance for Christians. I agree that once delivered we must stay delivered just like once saved, we must stay saved. You already gave the solution or answer to how we as Christians can stay delivered - One has to constantly be in fellowship with God. The only I will add to that is that, we must be filled with the Spirit of God and allow the Spirit of God to guide and lead us.




@ Bold in black. But the deliverance session carried out in most churches are actually done by falling and catching people that wants to fall and displaying.

@ Bold in red. There's no such thing as spirit of laziness. Everything is not the devil. Most things are our flesh and our irresponsibility. Christian must take responsibility for the lives. If someone is lazy, that's not demon or any sort of satanic influence. As for our enemies, we know who we're in battle with as listed in Ephesians 6. Christ already defeated Satan and we walk in that victory.

@ Bold in green. When God saves a man and such man comes to Christ, he still have responsibility to subject his body. That's not God's responsibility anymore. We have to subject our flesh under control. The flesh is not born again and nothing good in the flesh. That a Christian is manifesting the works of the flesh is NOT demonic attack or any sort of satanic spell but such person allowed the flesh to rule over him/her.

musKeeto: So the atheists and non-christians end up in the same place.. That's cool...

musKeeto: So the atheists and non-christians end up in the same place.. That's cool...

frosbel: What do you expect when grown MEN and WOMEN are falsely told that they are forbidden to marry if they want to join the priesthood or nun sect.

The catholic church has done immense damage to millions of souls , through false doctrine, crusades , fraud and all manner of heresy.

The reason why the catholic church puts tradition over the bible is because the bible rebukes their heresies.

"They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth." - 1 Timothy 4:3

truthislight: Hmmm!
Why not let them get married, the ones who wishes to do so i mean?
Must such (celibacy) be compulsory on those wishing to be a priest?
Does God so detest marriage or married people that he will chose only the unmarried for such a Job?

Logicboy03: WTF?

Beastiality? A victimless crime?


Are you ok?

wiegraf: Do you think any of these 'sins' (depending on perspective) are crimes or no? Non-religious reasons only pls, saying "because god" begs the question and that's not what this is for specifically. It's still related to religion of course as I want to see if y'all can give logical, cogent reasons that have nothing to do with religion (or tradition even) to justify classifying these as crimes. Of course, it's open to anyone, even atheists will have they're own individual stances.

You'll notice the lack of homosexuality, it's been done to death so we can ignore that for now. 3 is silly, I know, but I'll just leave it there.

My answer to all these is no. Edit: Simply because they're victimless.

If you can think of any other crimes that classify as victimless, or any other sins that should be crimes, lemme know.

Go

1. Narcotics

2. Bestiality

3. Blasphemy

4. Polygamy (both ways)


Edit, not sure how I forgot a favorite

5. Prostitution

nep2ra: Oh my God!

truthislight: You are suffering from the problem of a "vicious infinite regress" that your finite mind cannot comprehend.

infinite regress" has re-engineered your brain.

You need a redress big time.
My sympathy.
Peace

musKeeto: The churches thrive because they are filled with minds like yours...