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obadiah777: BROTHER UBE, AND I MEAN THIS IN A GOOD WAY, I DONT KNOW HOW ATTACHED YOU ARE TO THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, AND IT SEEMS YOU ARE PRETTY ATTACHED SEEING AS YOU ARE TAKING OFFENCE TO ME CALLING A WHITE MAN, WHO HAPPENS TO BE YOUR ENEMY, SEEING AS THIS SAME CHURCH IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SLAVERY OF BLACK PEOPLE,

u mean u are suprised that i addressed ur name calling, warlock of all names?

BUT THATS A DIFFERENT ISSUE, BUT THE POINT HERE IS THAT YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GET SALVATION FROM THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. THE LORD IS NOT DEALING WITH THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, OR ANY OTHER CHURCH FOR THAT MATTER.

really? The protestants i know have a "principle of d remnant", it seems u dont subscribe to such, so im interested in how u xplain d passage dat say "...i will build my church and the gates of hell will never prevail against her", u mind xplaining

YOU KNOW THE IMAGE OF THE BEAST THAT THE WORLD IS FORCED TO WORSHIP IN THE BOOK OF REVELATION ? WHO YOU THINK DREW UP THAT IMAGE OF THE BEAST ? POPE ALEXANDER THE 6TH OF ROME,

mind providing proof, atleast u don't xpect me to agree simple becos obadiah said it

THE SAME CATHOLIC CHURCH. YOU AS A BLACK MAN SHOULD NOT BE IN A CATHOLIC CHURCH. THATS ALL I AM TELLING YOU UBENEDICTUS.

this is interesting! Can u provide proof that the "catholic church" is responsible for the slavery of the blacks? The last time i checked white countries like britain and d us were actively involved in d slavery of black and yet i haven't seen a thread by u saying black shuldnt go to white countries becos d white are slave masters. If no black shuld b a catholic because u claim d cc was responsible for slavery (a claim which u are yet to prove), the u shuld also b condemning blacks who see white citizenship, atleast be consistent, anything short will be hypocrisy.

AND I HOPE YOU DONT TAKE THIS MESSAGE PERSONAL.

nah! No offense taken bra!! U do have a lot proof to give bra so get to work.
Peace

Mr obadiah this is very interesting!!! So to address ur use of words like warlock is some kind of sin? Or did i err by showing u that ur "fact" were wrong and provided proof to the contrary? Wow! U amaze me!

obadiah777: BROTHER UBE, AND I MEAN THIS IN A GOOD WAY, I DONT KNOW HOW ATTACHED YOU ARE TO THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, AND IT SEEMS YOU ARE PRETTY ATTACHED SEEING AS YOU ARE TAKING OFFENCE TO ME CALLING A WHITE MAN, WHO HAPPENS TO BE YOUR ENEMY, SEEING AS THIS SAME CHURCH IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SLAVERY OF BLACK PEOPLE, BUT THATS A DIFFERENT ISSUE, BUT THE POINT HERE IS THAT YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GET SALVATION FROM THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. THE LORD IS NOT DEALING WITH THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, OR ANY OTHER CHURCH FOR THAT MATTER. YOU KNOW THE IMAGE OF THE BEAST THAT THE WORLD IS FORCED TO WORSHIP IN THE BOOK OF REVELATION ? WHO YOU THINK DREW UP THAT IMAGE OF THE BEAST ? POPE ALEXANDER THE 6TH OF ROME, THE SAME CATHOLIC CHURCH. YOU AS A BLACK MAN SHOULD NOT BE IN A CATHOLIC CHURCH. THATS ALL I AM TELLING YOU UBENEDICTUS. AND I HOPE YOU DONT TAKE THIS MESSAGE PERSONAL.

advocate666: That passage shows that Jizz-Us may be secretly gay.

care to xplain what relate that passage and gay? Besides wu is jizz-Us?

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]Decemeber 26 is the WInter SOlistice when the Sun will appear at its lowest altitude.

The event is seen as the reversal of the Sun's ebbing presence in the sky, concepts of the birth or rebirth of sun gods have been common and, in cultures using winter solstitially based cyclic calendars, the year as reborn has been celebrated with regard to life-death-rebirth deities or new beginnings. In Greek mythology, the gods and goddesses met on the winter and summer solstice, and Hades is permitted to enter Mount Olympus (his domain is the underworld so he of course does not get accepted any other time). Also reversal is yet another usual theme as in Saturnalia's slave and master reversals.[/quote][quote author=PAGAN 9JA]25 [/quote][quote author=PAGAN 9JA]Decemeber 26 is the WInter SOlistice when the Sun will appear at its lowest altitude.

The event is seen as the reversal of the Sun's ebbing presence in the sky, concepts of the birth or rebirth of sun gods have been common and, in cultures using winter solstitially based cyclic calendars, the year as reborn has been celebrated with regard to life-death-rebirth deities or new beginnings. In Greek mythology, the gods and goddesses met on the winter and summer solstice, and Hades is permitted to enter Mount Olympus (his domain is the underworld so he of course does not get accepted any other time). Also reversal is yet another usual theme as in Saturnalia's slave and master reversals.[/quote]oga u hv to chose 1, 25 and 26 cant both b winter solistice, can it?

Amen! My twitter account has been dormant time to go and check it out.

Pastor AIO: This translation is not wrong when you look at the original greek. One could even translate the passage as 'In the beginning was the word, the word was with Divinity, and the word was Divine".

Using the word divinity kind of depersonalises it. Many things can be divine without sharing one identity.

This is one of the main reasons that I argue that the bible was translated and collated by an institution with an agenda and that as such one cannot understand the bible till they understand the agenda and are down with it. The Church of the Roman Empire decided that Jesus was God and that influenced how they translated that passage. Anybody that is not down with the Trinity concept will have to find another way to translate the passage. And that is exactly what the JWs do.

In absoute terms no one is right and no one is wrong. It depends on what agenda you are allied to.

relativism at the end nothing is true! This position is beautifully repulsive

plaetton: kjv lev. 16 :8
16:8 He is to cast lots for the two goats--one lot for the LORD and the other for the scapegoat
English Standard Version.
And Aaron shall cast lots over the two goats, one lot for the LORD and the other lot for Azazel.


New Living Translation.
He is to cast sacred lots to determine which goat will be reserved as an offering to the LORD and which will carry the sins of the people to the wilderness of Azazel.


Young's Literal Translation
'And Aaron hath given lots over the two goats, one lot for Jehovah, and one lot for a goat of departure;


Douay-Rheims Bible
And casting lots upon them both, one to be offered to the Lord, and the other to be the emissary goat:


One sentence , five different meanings.

Mistranslation, mistransliteration or just deliberate obfuscation?
So much for the the inerrant words of an omni omni god.
lol

no misstransliteration there! The douay rheim bible pretty much tells d story, d odas dnt seem different!

Matt 19:10-12

RanchOwner: Christmas is actually a pagan festival that was introduced to the Christian faith by the Romans.

So should Christians continue to celebrate the christmas tradition...read the new book by Pope Benedict titled, 'Jesus of Nazareth'.

u have read d buk dat is y u are writing d above, b4 u tell pipo to read dis and dis make sure u read it urself.

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]Decemeber 26 is the WInter SOlistice when the Sun will appear at its lowest altitude.

The event is seen as the reversal of the Sun's ebbing presence in the sky, concepts of the birth or rebirth of sun gods have been common and, in cultures using winter solstitially based cyclic calendars, the year as reborn has been celebrated with regard to life-death-rebirth deities or new beginnings. In Greek mythology, the gods and goddesses met on the winter and summer solstice, and Hades is permitted to enter Mount Olympus (his domain is the underworld so he of course does not get accepted any other time). Also reversal is yet another usual theme as in Saturnalia's slave and master reversals.[/quote]interesting its dec 26 nt 25 abi?

truthislight: so when trees are old they develop gray hairs?

Have you ever seen trees planted by streams of water or river side?

If you do, you will know that they renew themself.

Even when you do cut them down they rejuvenet and can start growing by the root of by the side of the stem or any visible means.

Some trees will destroy their stem and start growing afresh from their root.

Do you use cement to fill your skin when you do have a cut or your body regenerate itself and grow new skin to fill the cut?

The answer is obvious that the body regenerates itself, but this process of self renewal simply does stop, why?

If we had been like the trees planted by the river side with the necessary supply of resources(enough water) the process would not have stopped.

Yea! The source of life abandoned Adam (disconnected from Adam) in the garden of Eden.

Like an electric fan disconnected from a power supply, it only continue with the initial momentum and grind to a halt.

Yea, that is exactly what it takes to gives them eternal life, reconnection to the source of power.
Revelation 21:1-4

^^^

it only take the "throne of God to come down from heaven, the new Jeruselam".

"And God will be with man and he will be their God and we will be his people"

and then : verse 4 "death will be no more"

simply reconnection to God and there will be no more death.
Revelation 21:1-4

The exact opposite of what happened in eden is what it takes to stop man from dying.

God and man reconnected together like it was between Adam and Yahweh.

So, had Adam not disobeyed, he would have remained connected to the source of life = Yahweh.

This whole process of christ coming is to get man connected back to the source of life, when that is done, then "death will be no more".

That is why the bible says that the last enemy death will be destroyed forever. Cor 15:

good points!

obadiah777: YOU DO ERR TRUTHISLIGHT. THE MAN IS HIS SPIRIT NOT HIS BODY. HIS BODY IS JUST DUST ( JOHN 6 VS 63 ). WHEN THE BIBLE REFERS TO ETERNAL LIFE, IT IS NOT TALKING ABOUT THE BODY. IT IS TALKING ABOUT THE SPIRIT. NO HUMAN BODY IS MADE TO LIVE FOREVER. SAYS IN THE BOOK OF ISAIAH THAT IN THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN WE WILL LIVE TO BE AS OLD AS TREES BEFORE WE PASS ON. PHYSICAL FLESH IS NOT MADE TO BE IMMORTAL. THE SPIRIT IS YOU AND SERIALLINK JUST WAN LIVE FOREVER SHA. UNA TOO ENJOY SUYA AND PEPPERSOUP. UNA NO WAN LET GO. HOWEVER WE WILL LIVE TO 1000 IN THE KINGDOM ( METHUSELAHS AGE RANGE IS THE ORIGINAL AGE RANGE OF MAN BEFORE IT GOT CUT DOWN TO 120 YEARS ( GENESIS 6 VS 3 ) BECAUSE OF SIN

obadiah i thought methusela was actually after adam sinned, it doesn't seem like a good yard stick to measure d age range before adam's sin. Wha'd ya say?

obadiah777: THE BIBLE IS NOT A BOOK OF MUNDANE INFORMATION LIKE >>> 'AND THE APOSTLES WERE HOLDING THE SCROLLS ON THE WAY TO ANTIOCH. THEY ALSO HAD A FEW GROUNDNUTS FOR SNACKS IN CASE THEY GOT HUNGRY ON THE JOURNEY' <<<< MUNDANE UN-NECESSARY INFORMATION. AM SURE YOU ARE NOT EXPECTING THAT TO BE WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE.

more interesting! Since to physically hold d bible while preaching is "mundane unneccesary information" that means it isnt important! So why should any1 be forced to do it?

HOWEVER THE FACT REMAINS THAT THE POPE HAS NOT SEEN A BIBLE A DAY IN HIS LIFE. THE MAN IS A WARLOCK

since u consider it a "fact" "that d pope has not seen a bible a day in his life" them do u mind explaining how come the pope happen to quote d bible? Or are u saying he only has d scrolls? Or maybe u care to explain why ur information is false
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/3146418/Pope-Benedict-XVI-begins-marathon-televised-Bible-reading.html be careful, b4 u claim dat and dat is "fact" make sure u can prove it.
It is interesting that you call benedict a warlock, simply put a distructive sorcerer, i don't know how u want me to respect u wen u continue wit the type of name calling. If u dont want a polite discussion den please dont discuss atall.
Enjoy! http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/apost_exhortations/documents/hf_ben-xvi_exh_20100930_verbum-domini_en.html

italo: But you always say we shouldn't go through anyone, that Jesus is the only way to the Father. Why then do you go pray to your pastor?



As long as I know, Mary is alive in heaven. If you can pray to thieves like Oritsejafor, we will keep asking the intercession of the Blessed Virgin Mary.

Besides, you have no right to accuse someone of doing something that is unbiblical. Nowhere in the Bible does anyone accuse anyone of doing something that is "unbiblical" so what you are doing is unbiblical.

hahahahahahahaha, lwkmd, oga italo hw far na?

frosbel: ^^^^

This small article explains my position .

wow thank for d article, it does clarify what i think abt ur position. it seems ya are very close to arianism just a little stuff also seperates u frm d jw.
Peace

It seems truthislight double posting has kicked in, just to refresh ur memory

Ubenedictus: how come u presume know what happens in my church if u arent trying to lie and bear false witness. Well that idea is heresy in d cc.
"If any1 saith tht it is nt in man's power to make his way evil, bt that d works that are evil God worketh as those tht a good, nt permissively only, bt properly, and of himself, in such wise that the treason of judas is no less his proper work than d vocation of paul. Let him be anathema"
council of trent canon vi decrees on justification.
"we nt only do not believe that any are foreordained to evil by the power of God but even state with utter abhorrence that if there are those who want to believe so evil a thing, they are anathema.
Council of orange 525 AD.
So again u lied.

obadiah777: WASNT NO BIBLES THEN. IT WAS CALLED SCROLLS. THEY HAD THE SCROLLS. THEY WROTE THE SCROLLS. THE APOSTLES AND OTHER SEALED MEN WROTE THE BIBLE.

amen, they had at least, mayb one book of d new t, and the full old t. And yet none of them were recorded physically holding the scrolls while preaching!
The idea that d pope must strain his fragile hand or that anyone must hold a bible while preaching isn't found anywhere, all that is needed is that what he teaches if from the word of God!!! Nt must hold d bible wen preaching!

obadiah777: THIS IS LIKE GOING TO WAR WITHOUT A WEAPON

interestly none of d apostles were recorded hold "d bible" each time they preached! They were known to quote it not necessaryly hold it in public.

obadiah777: IS HE SUFFERING FROM CARPAL TUNNEL SYNDROME ? WETIN DO HIN HAND ? THE MAN IS ALLERGIC TO BIBLES

gud question! It is best answered by another question, is it written that u must hold a bible b4 u can preach? And benedict can't officiate mass 4 more dan 2hrs without been tired even wen he sit thru out, besides even a usual bishop doest read d gospels in d congregation, his work is to explain usually quoting scripture to explain his stance. There is no law written in stones that he must b seen holding a bible at mass.

seriallink: @Truthislight, I can help but ask, did you at anytime claimed that God doesn't know the result of Satan's temptation to man or ignorant of anything?

wow! Gud question! One i asked truthislight several times and he failed to give a yes or no! Dat question is 4 truthislight

Since I started following this thread, I haven't seen it in any of your post where you 'claimed' that God isn't 'omniscience' or 'ignorant of anything', yet you are being accused falsely, and the disingenuous accuser still claims he never accused or misinterpreted you at anytime! *Smh*

yeah some1 wu need proof is ignorant of d tin 4 which he needs proof. Simple commonsense.

truthislight: but that is what they teach them in church.

Though he will denied it here to deceive the steeple.

how come u presume know what happens in my church if u arent trying to lie and bear false witness. Well that idea is heresy in d cc.
"If any1 saith tht it is nt in man's power to make his way evil, bt that d works that are evil God worketh as those tht a good, nt permissively only, bt properly, and of himself, in such wise that the treason of judas is no less his proper work than d vocation of paul. Let him be anathema"
council of trent canon vi decrees on justification.
"we nt only do not believe that any are foreordained to evil by the power of God but even state with utter abhorrence that if there are those who want to believe so evil a thing, they are anathema.
Council of orange 525 AD.
So again u lied.

Boomark: My dear, why i said that is that you are switching from prescient to predestination.

where did i 'switch' from prescient to predestination? D problem is that u were presuming and at the end u lied by saying predestination isnt biblical.

And also a guy told me that if one jumps off from a hill and dies, that God has destined him to die like that. So i was wondering if it is what they teach you people in church.

that is btw u and 'a guy', it is really annoying to bring ur discussion wit 'a guy' to this one!

truthislight: what with you?

Are you pain or something.

Serialink said "you were caught in the act", instead of you addressing him, you talked about bookmark and predestination, was that the point of Serialink?
I hate this kind of people.
What i have said is very plain for some one with an honest heart.
Peace

oh! Now it seems u are d 1 in pains, d post u quoted wasnt refering to serialink it was 4 u. Y do u hv a problem wit answering ur posts?

truthislight: proving to God has to do with satan showing for all to see that what he satan said was the truth and what Yahweh said was false.

This practically of course.

Over the years satan has been on this and that is why he is called "the ruler" of the world.

We all, both human and spirit creatures have seen that satan has fail and that is why we are praying that God's kingdom comes.

proving to God=proving to creatures! Wow very interesting!

seriallink: Na ur yawa be that. I no get time for babylonic gist!

hmm...na u know!

vickyO: [color=#000000]ACCORDING TO DICTIONARY.COM[/color] to mediate means - to bring about (an agreement, accord, truce, peace, etc.) as an intermediary between parties by compromise, reconciliation, removal of misunderstanding.
to intercede - to attempt to reconcile differences between two people or groups; mediate.
they mean the same thing...

wow! So intercession=mediation? Try a theology dictionary, besides intercession is biblical, st paul says "offer intercession..."

if you want to raise the issue of christians meeting Pastors to pray for them then let me explain something to y;all. they donot pray to their pastors, they [color=#000000]ask[/color] their Pastors to pray for them.... and dont forget something[b] Jesus is the mediator between God and man, Pastors are men while Mary is dead and is now a spirit.... Jesus is not the mediator between a spirit and God.[/b]

u need a new english teacher, to pray means to ask, "i pray thee, may i have ur chips" simply means im asking u to give me ur chips. So in correct english protestants PRAY to their pastors for blessings!

BARRISTERS: common, why wasting your precious time with 'a kindergarten pupil' who does not know his left from right and even moreso continue to remain adamant in ignorance is insanity! common move on pls,dont give what is holy to the p.i.g.s.... just watch,he will reply with insult now,and that is what they are here to do.

interesting! When u cant answer a simple question u resort to insults! Atleast i have seen d stuff u are made up of.

BARRISTERS: common, why wasting your precious time with 'a kindergarten pupil' who does not know his left from right and even moreso continue to remain adamant in ignorance is insanity! common move on pls,dont give what is holy to the p.i.g.s.... just watch,he will reply with insult now,and that is what they are here to do.

interesting! When u cant answer a simple question u resort to insults! Atleast i have seen d stuff u are made up of baseless accusations

truthislight: my friend go and rest.
Stop twisting my post cus all i wanted is clearly spelt out.
The time of proof is not for God to know but for other creatures to see if satan's stance and accusations are the best way forward.
as i had already said in those post,
stop twisting and implying what i did not say to me.
Peace

interesting! You certainly didnt say d bolded at the beginning. Now here comes another question, u are saying At present that God wanted to show the creatures that satan is a crook, which of d creatures?

Boomark: he was caught in the act!

and here we go! From boomark wu say predestination isn't biblical!

seriallink: I get your point. But Mr. Ube is not saying the same. He believes in predestination and also believe that the fall of man was pre-planned! That would make God a liar, you know?

Well, like I said, there is a huge difference between your interpretations of scripture and the normal thing I read from the scripture. Maybe, as time goes on, I'll get to understand where you are coming from!

u were talking abt twisting, where did the bolded come from?

Boomark: Awake didn't see predestination in the bible and it does not teach it. So tell us what your bulletin saw and added in the bible.

and here bookmark say predestination isnt biblical! Where is bookmark??