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BARRISTERS: @chukwudi44

let me ask you,why must one be ordered by the pope to worship any other person than God, worshiping arkangel statue is purely idolatory!

BARRISTERS: @chukwudi44
we knew why you are pained seing watchtower,
because of codemning your pope as a harlot forming political allies with murderers like hitler who killed at least 6 million jews, but became a hero to the roman catotolic

see the

pics 1, unholy union of the harlot!

pics 2, catholic hero (murderer hitler) signing autographs with catholic nuns.

seriallink: The Book of Enoch is one of them?

obadiah777: LET ME TELL YOU WHY THEY WERE MADE APOCRYPHAL. WHEN THE GREEK EMPIRE TOOK OVER THE WORLD FOLLOWED BY THE ROMAN EMPIRE. THEY STARTED SOMETHING CALLED ICONOCLASM. THEY WANTED THE WORLD TO BELIEVE THAT CIVILIZATION STARTED WITH THE GREEKS. HOWEVER IN THE APOCRYPHAL IT CLEARLY STATES THAT THE GREEKS AND ROMANS ARE CAVEMEN WHO LIVED IN THE ROCKS OF MT SEIR BEFORE THEY TOOK OVER THE WORLD AND THAT CIVILIZATION STARTED WITH THE NEGROS. SO THIS PART OF THE BIBLE HAD TO BE TAKEN OUT TO SUPPORT THEIR ICONOCLASTIC LIES OF THE GRECO-ROMAN EMPIRE BEING THE CIVILIZERS OF THE WORLD.

THE APOCRYPHA ARE THE BOOKS TAKEN OUT BETWEEN MALACHI AND MATTHEW. THEY INCLUDE BOOKS LIKE THE MACCABEES, ECCLESIASTICUS, WISDOM OF SOLOMON, TOBIT

AND IN TAKING OUT THOSE BOOKS FROM THE BIBLE THEY DUG A HOLE FOR THEMSELVES. REVELATION 22 VS 18 AND 19 SAYS DO NOT TAKE AWAY ANY PART OF THE BIBLE.

truthislight: the OT are writing by prophet of Yahweh, Judges of Yahweh, approved kings of Yahweh, and the levit.
The NT is an exclusive teaching and epistles of christ apostles(mark and luke wrote history)

who wrote the apocriphals?

Definitely not individual on that group.

Todaynatoday: Oh! I see, but I thought that early christians made use of these books before compilation of the Bible. Methinks Reincarnation might be true. By the way (off topic) why were such books declared apocryphal?

doubleDx: So, there is no such thing as original sin afterall? If man was created with the ability to sin from the beginning, why blame him for sinning?

truthislight: satan started in heaven.

The one who troubles them day and night.

Since Adam was a freewill entity he has to put the symbol of his authority in the Garden so that as long as Adam keep obedient to him he will not fall for satan as some other angels in heaven had followed satan.

Roman 16:16- to whomever you obey such is you master.

As long that Adam keep obedience to God by not eating from the tree God remain with him, so when he disobeyed God abandon him.

But for satan to proof his challenge to God that Adam will be better off eating the fruit time was needed to proof whose principle was better for man.

If God had kill satan the challenge will not have been answered.

Infact it would have appeared that God was a cruel dictator that abuses his power and kills whomever opposes him.

ijawkid: Lol.....the bible does not teach re-incarnation,rather it teaches ressurection.....

Those kids aren't the re-incarnates of the spirits of formally dead persons.....you ERR my bro on this re-incarnation wahala........

obadiah777: I AM SURE YOU DID NOT HEAR ME SAY GOD IS RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR SINS

JAMES 1 VS 13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:

14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.

Boomark: Yes bro.
My radar is very attentive.

I only SMH for my brother ubenedictus.

Satan is the ruler of this present world, it is absolutely impossible for a man not to face temptation; Jesus did n that's why everyday u say the Lord's prayer. IMO every fire of affliction you pass through is every temptation to ur faith that u face daily, but keeping ur hope in God without wavering ensures u come out as gold.

Tho Obadiah is yet to explain the complemting r/ship btwn d devil n God...wat does Satan get in return? Lost souls? Even when it's not our Fathers will that any should perish??
Abeg I'm unsubscribing biko

obadiah777: proverbs 16 vs 4 The LORD has made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil

amos 3 vs 6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?

isaiah 45 vs 7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things

everything i quoted above is from the bible. you do err not knowing scriptures.

truthislight: God did not destroy satan immediate to give room for all thecontrasting statement/challenges that was made in Eden.

To give satan an opurtunity to proof that man disobedience to God will result in a better situation than being obedient.

With the failures we have seen so far, it is obvious that satan has fail in all his utterances that Adam is better off listening to him instead.

so God was ignorant that satan's proposition cannot be good so God had to wait and see? That is a load of nonesense. GOD already knew the result of satans deception, he allowed it because he created man a free being and it is man's job to chose wu he will serve.

Oahray: @Bookmark, I didnt run. I know when to stop. There are million out there who are interested in knowing the truth. I'm not going to waste my energy with ubenedictus and his likes who would rather throw tantrums and derail posts in an attempt at covering their gaping ignorance. If they really wanna discuss the bible, I'd be more than willing.

obadiah777: YES I DISAGREE AND THIS IS NOT MY WAY OF UNDERSTANDING SCRIPTURES. ITS ALL BIBLICAL. HOWEVER ALL THESE THINGS YOU SAID >>> CAN YOU FIND IT IN THE BIBLE ? SOUND TO ME LIKE YOU ARE COMING OUT OF YOUR OWN VAIN OPINIONS. IF THEY SPEAK NOT ACCORDING TO MY WORD ( THE BIBLE ), IT IS BECAUSE THERE IS NO LIGHT IN THEM. PROVE THY CAUSE WITH SCRIPTURES BROTHER UBE. SCRIPTURE IS NOT OF PRIVATE INTERPRETATION

frosbel: It was just an observation, go to the source to check the story.

Kulfrank: Y mount arafat in turkey y waz it nt found in isreal or maybe rome

frosbel: This is about Roman Catholicism , not Christianity.

seriallink: What is your favorite Bible translation? Mine is KJV!

Others I like are: NIV, NIS & NKJV

chukwudi44: Nice pics rich4god well done

BARRISTERS: @ubenedictus


i also noted that they can sin too, if you read the post,the few cases they had,jws were very firm to disffelowship those affected outrighly, but many will still criticise that why must they be disfelowshiped, calling GB as too rigid and harsh,but how do you describe a situation where catholic priests are not dismissed for such offence,but are rotated among parishes up to the level of 8 diocess running into bankruptcy after settling repeatedly abuse cases!

what measure are being put in place to check those execes,

note that, had it been that free123 did not go into insulting the WT,nobody will care to go into these cases, but how can someone with series or fleets of mind buggling cases be throwing stones first? is it right, im ready if he continue to distract attention from the topic.

Enigma: Where did I reject belief in the communion of saints?

trolling: Paul wasnt a pagan,he was a Pharisee,he kept the letter of the law,the traditions of his forefathers persecuted the messianic jews who believed in Yahshua Hamashiac until he came into contact with Yahshua the man he persecuted and was then converted,paul didnt worship the host of the sun and moon which would have made him a pagan,now if you guys say you arent pagan,i mean christians/catholics why is it that you worship on the day of the sun called sunday,why is it that you keep Easter which is the celebration of the rising sun, why is that you keep christams which is winter solstice(the birth of the sun)

trolling: BC doesnt stand for Before christ, it stands (for Before the Common era) not Before Christ as dem teach una, the true faith was here before then and christ was born 4 B.C

trolling: BC doesnt stand for Before christ, it stands (for Before the Common era) not Before Christ as dem teach una, the true faith was here before then and christ was born 4 B.C

BARRISTERS: free123




lie! im not a JW,but you are a distraction looking for attention!(you are the last to join the likes of;Chukwudi44,true2God,Ubenedictus and now free123, all these have nothing to offer the forumites!

and your aim on this tread is to derail it, you are pained by the structured facts stylely presented without duplication from OT to NT to prove facts here! learned counsels find it easy to work with these JWS than you guys with nothing to cotribute but 'derail'(kill them before they grow) why are you guys still bent on hiding the truth at any expense? at least you have testified to how they can defend below;


man made doctrines! is that how you view your faith,no wonder you dont have anything to contribute, but rather saying that you dont join issues with JWS you are not having anything,nothing to contribute ,it is when you have something that you can give but if you dont,how can you give? and who's fault? while the JWS without needing an ally from catholics are very consistent, frosbel who even insult you guys became an ally and even with his contribution to help you against JWS, page 13 now and just see the level of the JWS sustainance! all of you guys have faded into oblivion and ever since page 6 most of you cannot quote the bible again! but people like plappvile continue to knock you from piller to post and from all angles with new bible quotes, cant you see the chemistry? using Gods word to interprete itself,and not using a philosophical book like sunkoye who only copy and paste some theologian works but could not personally express what he believes!

i understand that most of you guys have grown up with the doctrines of catholics but could not help the embarrasement that they are soaked with,but instead of being honest you resort to either 'forceful denial' or 'insult/curse' and fanatical,calling names!

it is noteworthy that you (free123) have not contributed a dine to the issue on the ground. i have made my reseaches on JWS activities and i can tell you that they are very consistent and more to their credit they work with facts,and not fiction like the catholics! you guys accuse them of false prophecy but it will be noteworthy that they never prophecy!and have not crossed their boundary, what do i mean? nobody can accuse wacthtower of crossing the boundary set by jesus! that is they have never set a 'day' and 'hour' for the end to come!....(nobody knows the day and the hour....even the son of man,except my father in the heavens....jesus) so whats the fuss all about?


lets see an example of a ''prophecy of destruction'' here again, i have cited it before,
jonah 3:1-3,
(1) Then the Lord spoke to Jonah a second time: (2) “Get up and go to the great city of Nineveh, and deliver the message I have given you.”

NOTE ABOVE THAT JONAH HAS RECEIVE A 'REVELATION' AND WAS TO GO AND DELIVER IT JUST THE WAY IT WAS REVEALED TO HIM;

3 This time Jonah obeyed the Lord’s command and went to Nineveh, a city so large that it took three days to see it all.[a] 4 On the day Jonah entered the city, he shouted to the crowds:[size=18pt] “Forty days from now Nineveh will be destroyed!” [/size]

FOURTY DAYS WILL BE A MONTH AND FEW DAYS IN NISSAN CALLENDAR! THE PEOPLE CAN COUNT FROM THE 'HOUR' OF THE 'DAY' THEY HEARD THE MESSAGE WHICH WILL BE A PARTICULAR HOUR OF THE 41ST DAY, HAD IT BEEN WE KNEW THE DATE JONAH WAS SAYING THIS OF WHICH THE PEOPLE OF NINEVEH CAN SPECIFY THAN US NOW.

40 DAYS NEVER WAS, AND DID JONAH SEE BEIGN ACCUSED AS SOMETHING THAT COULD DERAIL HIS SERVICE TO GOD? OR

BUT DID JONAH AND OTHER FAITHFULL WORSHIPPERS OF GOD RELENT? KNOWING THAT GOD IS FULL OF LOVING KINDNESS AND MAY BECAUSE OF THOSE WHO REPENT CHANGE HIS THREATS? NO THEY CONTINUED.


SO, THE ENTIRE NOTION THAT WATCHTOWER PROPHECIED IS COMPLETELY UNFOUNDED,HERE AND A DISTRACTION,AND ANYONE WITH FACTS CAN PLS ENGAGE ME PERSONALLY.

THERE WAS NO INGREDIENTS LIKE WHAT A PROPHECY SHOULD LOOK LIKE, THE INGREDIENTS THAT ARE TO BE SATISFIED IS THE 'DAY' AND 'HOUR', ACCUSERS MUST COMMIT JWS TO DAY AND HOUR AGAINST JESUS CLAIM THAT ''NOBODY KNOWS THE DAY AND HOUR''

THERE WAS NO TIME THAT THEIR DOCTRINE HAS EVER CHANGE, AND FOR EXAMPLE,1914 STILL REMAIN A REMARKABLE YEAR THEY INSIST THAT JESUS ENTHRONED AS THE KING! THE LATEST STUDY OF THEIR WATCHTOWER SEPTEMBER 15 2012 IS VERY CLEAR ON THAT JUST AS EVER BEFORE AND THERE IS NO REASON FOR FEAR IN ANYWAY WHATSOEVER THAT THEIR BELIEF IS UNSTABLE OR CHANGES OVERTIME.

TO BE FAIR TO JWS, NOBODY HAS COME OUT WITH A 'FIX DAY OF 24HRS IN A MONTH OF 30DAYS' TO NAIL THEM EXCEPT WHAT CAN BE TERMED AS EMPTY INSULTS THAT DOES NOT CHANGE ANYTHING.

seriallink: Good, so, do you also agree that teachings/traditions handed by mouth should be verified from the scripture as written in Acts 17:11?

Everything should be uniform you know?

luc26: 321 BC So d catholic church existed b4 Christ came?plz kan u xplain d foundation and faith on whch it strtd by 321 "BC"