₦airaland Forum

wendymanda:
If you want someone to submit then it is as if they are imprisoned. Thus far all those on the defense for submitting have made it a one sided venture where only women submit. Therefore if it is not a concerted effort it must be some type of slavery.

U can see it as slavery but I bet U it is not. One cannot enslave oneself.

However, as long as U expect certain things to be initiated by man , like ask ur hand in marriage (not the other way round), dowry payments and all that stuff, U have to also give him that room to lead during the course of the marriage. The idea of giving him a little bit of room and trusting that he would be there for U and take care of U and if it comes to that, even lay down his life to protect U and the kids is what is known as submissiveness. DONT GET IT TWISTED!!!!

I guess the situation here is the definition of submission in the context of marriage. Nobody is asking U to be a slave. Matter of fact most women that I know that are submissive to thier husband are the ones who eventually control thier hubbies like a puppet. The ones that scream "equal rights" are the ones who end up end up taking a whole lot crap.

I can now go to sleep having gotten my dose of NL laffs

4 Him:
bros you dey mind them? I don't know which American man will wake up in the morning to scrub the floor for you. No be partnership?
Wendy, you're way off point. My mom has a successful medical career and yet manages the home front perfectly well so what is your point? Does submissiveness mean you shld become a fulltime house wife?

Sheniqua abeg if you have a sister please recommend me to her, all this "equal opportunity" people don tire me. When next u're driving your car have your boyfriend hold one end of the steering wheel too.

                                               
                                               

4 Him:
trying flying an aircraft as a partnership.

lol  

It is kind of funny when they  point out cooking as if it is a unique problem witht the Nigerian men. Which American person would cook for U? Not the ones I know around here, definitely. They cant cook for shit!!!! What about the ladies? Well, if U cant make do with Pizza and ordering in, then forget about dating them.

By Americana, I meant Nigerians born and bred in the US That guarantees U nada!!!

Cadet:
How does me saying I won't marry a nigerian that's still fresh wit their mentality racist? this is not even the talk about race. I'm not saying I won't associate with them, although that idea is beginning to change. No, I have nothing against my people. But I'll rather marry one that's accustom to the same idea as moi, so there would be no talk of "trouble" or "divorce" in the future. hahahha! heavy accent? thanks, but no.
wrong clothes as into jeans and shirt, yea, can't get enough of jeans

Marrying an Americana would not make U immune to that, either. Sorry to bust ur bubble.

U call the situation in Nigeria right now a success. I beg to differ.

Just being around the block.

Knowing U can drop in ur friend's house without sending an email or waiting to be invited.

Being free to make a whole lot of noise with ur friends in the street .

Evening soccer games. Those were heavenly!!!!!!!

@ Kobo

I admire  your attempt at independence from the government. Thats the spirit. But then there is only much You can do as an individual or a corporate body. At some point , You would always need that government support. It must not be neccessarily finance (altho that wont hurt) but also policies. There are things that the government can do to make the Agric sector more attractive.


Anyway, like I said we have the 13 white ex-Zimbabwean farmers. Lets keep our fingers crossed.

lucabrasi:
,check out the super story series,dear mother,and family man or smthn all on ait international and they know they either get with the programme

What about Papa Ajasco by Wale Adenuga?

Gosh, thats the wackest comedy series I have seen in recent times They should put that concept to rest. It aint even funny no more

What about researching these deals to understand where we could plug ourselves in to make something good come out of it for the Nigerian people?? What about trying to find ourselves ways of extracting knowledge and maybe building a farming community to help create competition in the area so we do not end up depending on these farmers who may one day decide to go back to Zimbabwe??


That is our only consolation. If that would eventually materialise is another matter.

sheniqua:
I wonder who will play the part of those his ashawos

Cossy orjiakor , Halima Abubakar etc dem don die

Kobojunkie:
If these farmers were black, I am sure you can safely say many of these in here would not be complaining. This is skin color issue for some and nothing more.

It is not about being black or white but about the double-standards played by a government and the irony is that the citizens are the victims.

Kobojunkie:
I see this hoopla as nothing but silly talk. Reason being, our farmers have had those lands for decades. Many of the land has gone untouched for over a decade. They sat waiting for government to do this and that for them.

Are U blaming the farmers for the lack of mechanisation of the Agric sector?    That jab should be aimed at the government.

And yeah, I have accepted that as the reality (but that does not mean it is the right mentality) and all I am concerned now is what good can come out of it. I see a whole lot of positives if we play our cards well.

U raised a pertinent question: What is the nature of the contract bw the government and these farmers? How is it going to help our Agric sector in the long run?

Tonim:
The Zimbabwean farmers have to teach their workers/apprentice on the management/technical areas of commercial
farming. They should not just have Nigerians work on their farms on a "do what you are told" basis.

This transfer of skills/knowledge is what we really need from the Zimbabweans.

Thats one "potential" positive right there.

Emad:
There is a new Nollywood film released this 2008 called Beyonce Vs Rihanna
Starring Nadia Buahi ( the one who acted Beyonce President's daughter)
Omotola Ekiende, ( rihanna ) and[b] Jim Iyke [/b] ( Jay Z)

And the Saga continues?

When is Biggie Vs Tupac coming out?    

Chidi Mokeme----Tupac
John Okafor------- Biggie
Stella Damasus Aboderin -----Faith Evans

Kobojunkie:
Suddenly, 13 Farmers from zimbabwe are now our problems cause they are white Chai!!! Some people are just full of nothing but horse manure.

Lol @ horse manure


Anyway, I think the concerns and points aised by Blatant and co are genuine. U cant dismiss them as hogwash. Fact remains that there is some kind of governmental support given to these white farmers that was not extended to indigenous farmers. And that bothers me. It is just the same with other sectors. The NFA would hire a foreign coach and pay him loads of dollars but when an indigenous coach is hired , peanuts are offered. That sort of mentality kind of bothers me.

However, that is the reality as we see it. We just have to make the best out of a stupid situation. If all goes well , we would still have some advantages to go home with the presence of the 12 white farmers. Question is are we ready or would we be aggressive enuff to harness those advantages.

Can somebody educate me on the meaning of " constituency allowance" ?

lucabrasi:
i agree totally with you but don't u think the marketers caused the influx of non tested actors and actresses coming into the industry?also if everyone is given a chance,they will come up with better quality of movies and get noticed, the government will have no choice but to fully regulate and finance, that is why i mentioned the 80million funding by ogun state government not because it was a yoruba agenda

Of course, those guys have thier own issues. I aint letting them off the hook but I am saying that they represent a part of the problem rather than the whole parcel. Other stake holders in the industry are quick to point fingers at the alaba marketers (a la Igbo traders ) as the bane of the industry. That is not true. The so-called "literate" sector of the industry dont even have thier ish together.

However, I am not surprised that it is like that. U would expect this in an industry that is still young and growing. With time and a little bit of maturity coupled with a change in the TASTE OF THE CONSUMERS (that is another aspect people tend to ignore), these problems would sort themselves out.

sheniqua:
what exactly is the point of the thread?
The first three posts made it clear.

Beats me

@ romeo

Nwanna, take am easy

@ luca

Let me just forget all those talk about yoruba culture u spewed on the last page since it seems U have done a dramatic volte-face  


Now to ur new position on the state of Nollywood,

I agree with ya 100 percent on the lack of professionalism in the industry and personally I think that is one of the problems dragging the industry down. Everybody wants to be a scriptwriter, director , producer etc.  But this lack of professionalism should not be placed on the doorstep of the marketers alone. Actors nowadays are also producers , screen writers and directors. It is not even uncommon to find a producer/director acting in a movie that he or she directed. I aint saying it is unheard of but when U have a bunch of people doing different things at the same time with a very poor quality end product, then something is wrong somewhere. U also must have heard some actresses going into the studio when they know they cant sing for shit. Most artistes these days have little or no formal training in the industry. Just have a pretty face and probably an inclination to show a little bit of skin and U are in. I remenber one of my course mates ( a course that had nothing to do with acting by the way) becoming an actress suddenly. I aint saying she turned out to be a bad or good actress but that one minute we were all taking biochemistry lectures and the next day she was in a home movie. I was like DAMN!!! .

So when U are mentioning the marketers, U are just pointing to an aspect of the problem and that is a little bit unfair. It runs deeper than that.

This is one of the reasons I am always reluctant to enter into any discourse concerning Nigeria and its situation. Inside of me , I feel just plain useless with all these talks , argument and counter argument cos I know it leads nowhere. Our leaders are not dumb. They know what to do to get this country up on its feet. But they just sacrificed all that on the altar of selfishness. As far as the insanity and chaos in Nigeria is making them rich, they would never want to change that.

@ OsunAmazon

Well said. Ur objectivity speaks for itself and I am genuinely impressed.


@ Topic

If Nollywood is soooooo bad and still brings in respectable revenue , I wonder what would happen when professionalism is infused into the industry.
Every poster here is giving thumbs down (including moi) but the industry is still raging on. That should make U wonder who are the consumers then.

Nollywood has attained some heights and it has done this without any governmental help. Some group of individuals have taken a non-existent sector and turned it into a booming industry, an industry Nigeria can call its own. Love it or hate it, the industry represents a source of revenue for a sizeable sector of the population.

Now instead of yapping how Igbos did that or Igbos did not do this, stake holders should all be concerned about taking the industry to the next level.

vivaladiva:
all u nija men are moi moi with time you will all succum to the authority of vivaladiva
whether u like it or not
i am here to start the social revolution that is needed
what is good for the goose if fucking good for the gander

Kind of funny how ur fellow women do not subscribe to ur own brand of revolution.

It probably means U are shooting blanks or that they are all wrong. Me thinks it is likely the first.

WTF

I agree with Kobo.

Its the time of the China Man in Africa. I aint complaining about it cos we can really benefit from the association. That is if we want to.
My personal opinion is dat we are seeing a change of civilisation (which is not strange in the history of mankind).

Sky Blue:
I don't believe there is any law stating that states can't try to create power for themselves. In the last administration Peter Odilli "invested" in gas turbine but it turned out to be just another avenue he used to loot ridiculous ammounts of money. Obasanjo even went to commision it and the thing was not even working. Obasanjo was even told which switch to press (basically only one out of like 12). He ignored and pulled the other switches and nothing happened, corruption. Lagos at some point has apparently been looking into generating their own power and apparently chevron was going to do it. I don't know what happened or is happening with regards to that

LMAO

Yeah, I thought so,,,,, but was not sure.

Thanks

Sky Blue:
@Uche2nna you won't get any arguement from me about that. I really believe states should be striving to achieve stable power supplies in their own domain.

Pardon my ignorance, are there allownance for states to operate power sources independent from the National grid.

Given the system we are operating, are states allowed to pursue alternative source of power?