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A believe in witchcraft is an act of ignorance.
Witchcraft/juju/magic/metaphysical abilities/etc do not exist.

There is no spirituality or any metaphysical factor in performing magic.Just tricks.
You are made to reason in one convenient way while the magician acts in another way.I KNOW THIS FOR A FACT BECAUSE I KNOW A FEW TRICKS TOO.

Another thing to consider is that a rural African dweller not used to watching TV may actually think that the actors disappear when actors recite incantations and disappear from the screen.

Nobody has ever been able to at will demonstrate magic/metaphysical ability/miracle/etc in a laboratory kind of condition.


1 Position cameras to cover the magic performance from all angles with the magician at the center
2 Record the magic as he performs it.Do not edit the videos in any way.
3 Slow the videos down to less than 6.25%
4 Watch all the slowed videos simultaneously.

I bet you his people must have respected him well all along.It's in the value system.It's in the culture.

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So,if all the ones around you are not real,why should you think the one on your computer screen is real?

Brilliant toneyb.

The colonial masters who sold our people the dummy called prayer have moved on.They plan, strategize and train well for events.

olaOLUWAbalogun:
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Why next year.Start now.

Come up with a product that solves problems that current solutions are not solving.

lawrence83:
dont compare the strenght of those guys in the days of old to now,
Guys that cud walk from Egypt to israel on bare foot and[b] live over 300 years [/b], am sure servicing pu-nani wont even be a problem.

We are yet to see any quantitative evidence that says so.

Tudór:
^^

This is not to slight or insult you but i'm tempted to ask, do you do recreational drugs?

Its an honest question. Your mind is sooo hyperactive I seriously doubt its natural.

Deep Sight:
Lol. . .a bit of weed back in school but that's been many years ago.

I will also like to add that believe in the uniformity of nature is in direct contrast to magic.
believe in the uniformity of nature _{as practiced in developed countries} encourages your brain to work and become more objective.
believe in the possibility of magic _{as practiced in under-developed countries} hinders your brain from working and you become less objective.

Hence you will find that lazy thinkers find it easy to dwell on believe in magic/miracles _{though the like to call it faith} .
Good thinkers are likely to seek to know the underlying principle so that others can replicate their findings.This is what i call faith.Faith that there must be a principle because of the uniformity of nature.

Therefore,
Lazy Faith=believe in magic/miracles/illogical stuffs/myths/etc
Real Faith=believe in the uniformity of nature.

Poor countries use lazy faith,rich countries use real faith.

^^^ his user ID says it all.

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@DeepSight,
Nice post.
I will like to add that whatever faith or psychic method is used to bend spoon today will become common knowledge in the future.

Nobody has been able to demonstrate any of his psychic ability in a laboratory kind of condition. This makes psychic abilities to be found wanting by an objective observer.

Whatever faith has done,objective knowledge has done more.What I mean is scientific statistics and medicine has healed more people than faith and engineering will certainly move mountains more efficiently than relying on faith.

But does it mean faith is useless in a world where objectivity rules.NO.
You need to have faith in the uniformity of nature in order to be truly objective.

Is there such a high degree of faith that directly transforms into reality.NO
Rather it is faith in the uniformity of nature that allows you to manipulate nature to obtain your desired result.

alexleo:
validator,
Sometimes you reply well and sometimes you reply as if we are quarreling. Its not neccessary for me to quarrel with anybody about God and his word. Quarrel is a tool which satan uses to raise his onslaughts against God's children. Thats why when some people reply as if we are quarreling I try not to reply back. I dont celebrate abusive confrontations. Having said that, pls whats your religion?

objectivity/practicality,etc

ondo_boi:
@all, you don't have to argue over this issue, everyone has his/her own version of God. My perseption of what God is might be different from yours and you can never convince me to see God from your own point of view. So alexleo, worship your God and let others worship theirs. Can somebody shout halleluyah

You took the words in bold right out of my mouth.

^^^ What I highlighted was a lie that you told in that post. Now I see it Looks like you didn't intend telling lie though. That error must have been as a result of your method of your "my Gog versus your God" pattern of reasoning.
But how did you get through school if comprehension is this difficult for you?

alexleo:
VALIDATOR,
If you believe that your own version of god is superior to our own God then you dont need to fear since he ( your own god) also is meant to protect you from whatever punishment you are talking about but, I tell you that there is only one God who controls the whole universe. He is our God and in the bible he told us that everyone will die and since he allowed death to come into this world, people have been dying including atheists, christians and people who worship other gods like you. And I ask, why is your own version of god not able to protect you so that you live on earth forever without dying. ANSWER- because our God controls the whole earth and every power bows to his supreme power including the power of your own version of god.
Our own God does not take delight in punishing anybody but he has a principle which He keeps. He created us in his own image and gave us the power to choose. He also went ahead to advice that we choose good and reject evil because the consequencies of doing evil is eternal damnation in hell. He gave us power to choose and he doesnt interfere in our choice.
Originally God prepared hell to punish satan and his fallen angels. Satan is the originator of evil and anyone who chooses evil will definitely go the way of satan which is hell. It is not God that puts people in hell but your choice to do evil or live a righteous life will determine where you will end up at last. Its just like a father who called his son and told him -Son, when you are crossing the roads pls be careful to observe that the road is safe enough before you cross, if it isnt safe enough just be patient until its safe for you to cross. If at the end of the day the child decides to ignore his fathers advice and carelessly jumps into the road, got hit by a car and dies, will you blame the father. Its his choice that killed him. God's principle has been laid down and He does not bend rules. He stands by His word. Its left for you to choose the one you want. He loves you but he cannot force you to love him, He wants it to be from your heart of heart. May God help you.

@alexleo,
Though it isn't worth reading,I struggled very hard to read through your post.
I can't recall ever talking about my or any version of God being superior to yours and I can't recall telling you about my or any version of God being able to protect against any punishment.
YOU alexleo said "it will soon happen" and that disbelievers will be punished in hell , bla bla bla,  and i asked you why a just God will do that if he only shows up in myths.
To show that you could also be wrong this time, I pointed out a thread you once started and we found you or/and your God were wrong.
You mind is so conditioned that you find it difficult to think outside the box.

alexleo:
VALIDATOR,
If you believe that your own version of god is superior to our own God then you dont need to fear since he ( your own god) also is meant to protect you from whatever punishment you are talking about but, I tell you that there is only one God who controls the whole universe. He is our God and in the bible he told us that everyone will die and since he allowed death to come into this world, people have been dying including atheists, christians and people who worship other gods like you. And I ask, why is your own version of god not able to protect you so that you live on earth forever without dying. ANSWER- because our God controls the whole earth and every power bows to his supreme power including the power of your own version of god.
Our own God does not take delight in punishing anybody but he has a principle which He keeps. He created us in his own image and gave us the power to choose. He also went ahead to advice that we choose good and reject evil because the consequencies of doing evil is eternal damnation in hell. He gave us power to choose and he doesnt interfere in our choice.
Originally God prepared hell to punish satan and his fallen angels. Satan is the originator of evil and anyone who chooses evil will definitely go the way of satan which is hell. It is not God that puts people in hell but your choice to do evil or live a righteous life will determine where you will end up at last. Its just like a father who called his son and told him -Son, when you are crossing the roads pls be careful to observe that the road is safe enough before you cross, if it isnt safe enough just be patient until its safe for you to cross. If at the end of the day the child decides to ignore his fathers advice and carelessly jumps into the road, got hit by a car and dies, will you blame the father. Its his choice that killed him. God's principle has been laid down and He does not bend rules. He stands by His word. Its left for you to choose the one you want. He loves you but he cannot force you to love him, He wants it to be from your heart of heart. May God help you.

@alexleo,
Though it isn't worth reading,I struggled very hard to read through your post.
I can't recall ever talking about my or any version of God being superior to yours and I can't recall telling you about my or any version of God being able to protect against any punishment.
YOU alexleo said "it will soon happen" and that disbelievers will be punished in hell , bla bla bla, and i asked you why a just God will do that if he only shows up in myths.
To show that you could also be wrong this time, I pointed out a thread you once started and we found you or/and your God were wrong.
You mind is so conditioned that you find it difficult to think outside the box.

^^^^ ;d ;d ;d ;d ;d

@alexleo,
i am once again asking you a question that you have probably never asked yourself,

Can you explain why a just version of God who shows up vividly only in illogical myths should punish any objective person who refused to believe that He/She/It is the right version of God?

Nice joke.

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Nice joke.

Very nice joke.

alexleo:
Am not the kind that engage in foolish arguments about the existence of God. If we are talking about other issues, its a different thing entirely but when it has to do with the existence of God no argument because THERE IS GOD AND HE IS THE CREATOR OF THE WHOLE UNIVERSE INCLUDING YOU ATHEISTS OR WHATEVER YOU MAY CHOOSE TO CALL YOURSELF. As for the challenge which I prayed for in that thread, it still stands and like I said, NO REGRETS AND NO APPOLOGYs TO ANY OF YOU ATHEISTS so am just wondering the noise you people are making. The coming of Jesus remains the major focus in this particular thread and there is need for you to reconcile with God before its too late. He that has an ear let him hear.

I am not an atheist but I do not see any reason to ever lie on behalf of any version of God. If I ever throw down a challenge on behalf of my version of God and He/She/It disappoints me and I loose in the challenge,I will admit it and learn more from the experience.
Please can you explain why a just version of God who shows up vividly only in illogical myths should punish any objective person who refused to believe that He/She/It is the right version of God?

ROSSIKE:
Mudley 313 said to yommyuk

What about the millions more who believe a Jew is going to fly down from heaven to solve all their problems? They're an even bigger problem.

Or those who think they need to travel thousands of miles away from their home on ''pilgrimage'' to Saudi Arabia or Israel?

Does God live in the Middle East?

They are all the same.

^^^ lol

Is there really any need to remember your dreams?

benodic:
the problem with scientists is that they feel that every phenomenon must have a physical explanation. if it doesn't then it is not valid. that is where their limitations start.

we die every day. once you are asleep, your physical body starts resting then the real you, soul,  which is wearing this physical body goes on a trip into one of the inner planes of God where it has experiences.

in the morning soul comes back into the physical body and then the body reawakens. the only problem is that many unaware souls are not able to remember vividly where they go when they are asleep nor are they able to control it.

at death soul simply drops the physical body and goes back to its creator. the physical body of course goes back to the dust whence it came from.

Everything you call spiritual/metaphysical now will eventually get an objective knowledge based explanation. That is what history has taught us.