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HABA!!

In which country, in fact in which planet, would the daughter of a notorious dictator insult a person like Wole Soyinka? Only in Nigeria.

In which country would she get more than 1000 likes, in which site? Nairaland.

We are our problem. We forget too fast.

Even if Wole was stark raving mad; naked on the street, this girl or anyone from her family or grand father's lineage cannot and should not open their mouth to insult him.

P.Stacks:
Really Sad. Very Religious but yet very Devilish People. No decency, No decorum, anybody can wake up and say God called him.. Sometimes they make me think this god is a joker. When Muslims kill in the name of god or kill for god.. I'm like, is this god so weak he can't fight for himself. When xtains opens churches indiscriminately just to enrich demselves and preach so much on tithe and offering and not addressing morale decadence, I wonder. If u ask a girl what she wants in her guy, the first thing is.. "God fearing, loving, caring" Nigerians talk of the Fear of God the most but Nigerians don't Fear God one bit.. No regulations guarding the sprouting of moshroom churches everyday.
Nigeria needs a total over-haul. Re-orientation.
Everything needs to come to a halt,
Sometimes I feel the country should have a "Reset" button and have this start again from the beginning but this time more orderly.
There's no law and order in Nigeria. We are just bunch of strange bed fellows deceiving ourselves. Not till that "Day" comes, the prediction of a "Failed State" on our collective destiny as Nigerians is imminent. Its really very difficult to admit to. But at the rate and speed we are going, we're on a Crash course. Corruption is not just in government circles in Nigeria alone, it's in me, its in you, its in every facet of life in our Daily life as Nigerians. People open churches for personal gains. People kill extra judicially, people exploit on the slightest possible chance, when people are looking, we do the right thing and when no one is looking, what do you do?

If there's truely gon be a judgement day! God of Nigerians have a lot to judge.

In other words, Nigeria is a Sodom and needs to be reset.

Democracy has been promoted by the west like it is a ferry tale. Adopt democracy and all your problems are over. But that is not true. I like democracy because I want to be heard and by virtue of my origin (igbo) we are historically democratic.

But it does not work everywhere. You have to take into consideration the cultures of a people. Or if after 20 years of military rule, you adopt democracy, then someone should be there to guide you, to teach you. This is what Fela sang about.

This is where the Egyptians got it wrong. To be have a successful democratic environment, you have to pay your dues. You have to show restraint and maturity in order to help the system grow.

You cannot get this by truncating democracy after one year of trial. And people say it is what "the people" want. That is fine. The people have to sit down and define their needs clearly. When you sit on your side of the fence, you think it is greener on the other side. And that is not always the case.

Showing restraint implies investing in the democratic institutions. That is what makes it democracy.

If a man wins his mandate clean and square, then you should blame yourself for voting him when he goes wrong. The Egyptians need to mature and take responsibility for their actions. It doesn't stop at revolutions.

Their action is unfair to Morsi, unfair to their country and unfair to their children unborn. Let us pray that the situation does not degenerate into another civil war in Africa.

God help us all.

Mohammed Morsi, a member the Muslim Brotherhood’s political wing, the Freedom and Justice Party, was sworn in as Egypt’s president on June 30, 2012. One year later, an unprecedented number of Egyptians have taken to the streets across the country to demand the resignation of the first democratically elected president Egypt has ever known. Morsi’s presidency has been beset by stumbles, mass protests, and missed opportunities. Here is a list of the top 10 blunders:

1. Running for office in the first place: The Muslim Brotherhood promised not to field a candidate for presidential elections early on after Hosni Mubarak was toppled, but when the time came, Morsi’s name was on the ballot. The Brotherhood’s having gone back on its word so quickly was seen by its opponents as a harbinger of things to come.

2. A complete inability—alternately seen as a lack of desire—to create an inclusive government: Morsi came to office on the narrowest of margins, winning only 51.7 percent of the vote in a second round runoff. After taking office, he was unable, or some say unwilling, to find figures from across the political spectrum to join his cabinet. Instead the Brotherhood played majoritarian politics. After winning both parliamentary and presidential elections, it governed without coalitions, pushing its agenda despite opposition.

3. Morsi and the Military: Egypt’s well-respected military has long held the reigns of power in the country, on stage and behind the scenes. All three previous presidents of the Arab Republic hailed from its ranks. After president Hosni Mubarak stepped down on Feb. 11 2011, the Supreme Council for the Armed Forces took over the country, passing an addendum to the constitutional declaration that granted itself legislative powers, a substantive role in drafting the constitution, and limitations on the powers of the new president. On Aug. 12, 2012, Morsi repealed the SCAF addendum and ordered the retirement of the two most senior members of the SCAF, replacing them with men thought to be more loyal to him. He was obviously wrong. The country’s new constitution failed to curb the powerful generals, and Morsi never took the military out of politics, even if he gave the appearance he had done so.

4. The epic mess of drafting and passing Egypt’s new constitution: The constituent assembly tasked with drafting Egypt’s new constitution under SCAF had been plagued by infighting and legal challenges. On Nov. 22, 2012, Morsi unilaterally issued his own constitutional declaration that made his decrees immune from judicial oversight until the passage of a new constitution, and he dismissed the sitting public prosecutor in hopes of pushing through a new constitution. Egyptians took to the streets to protest Morsi’s moves. Meanwhile, Brotherhood delegates on what remained of the constituent assembly rammed through a hastily drafted version, followed by a national referendum. Critics complained that the new document did little to protect freedom of expression and minority and women’s rights. Morsi’s actions looked like a ploy to keep the opposition out and Islamize Egypt with his backers.

5. Failure to reform the state’s security apparatus: The hated police that brought people to the streets under Mubarak were never purged or reformed. The security services and the Interior Ministry stayed intact, but they either would not or could not enforce public order. Petty crime went up and people waited in vain for the security Morsi promised to bring.

6. The price of bread: When people took to the streets to protest Mubarak they demanded “bread, freedom, and social justice!” The Brotherhood had campaigned heavily on promises to fix the country’s battered economy and a general optimism over this prospect existed, even among detractors. As a banned organization, the Brotherhood had built its popularity by providing social services the government did not. Instead, inflation rose and the price of basic goods—bread, tomatoes, meat, chicken, and cigarettes—increased. The Egyptian economy floundered under Morsi’s watch. The heatedly debated IMF loan never came.

7. The opposition’s ineptitude only furthered the Brotherhood’s mistakes: There was a distinct perception atop the government that the enemies of Brotherhood rule were everywhere. In response, Morsi and the Brotherhood circled wagons. For its part, Egypt’s fractured opposition was never able to create a united front offering viable political alternatives to the Islamists’ rule. Most protesters agreed only on demanding an end to something instead of a charter of programs. So when it came time to deal with the opposition, the Brotherhood stuck to its path, never negotiating—partly because there was no one to negotiate with.

8. Sectarian violence: Under Morsi, the country’s Christian minority has complained of increased sectarian strife which, while not uncommon, certainly had occurred less frequently under Mubarak. Whether this is due to the inaction of the security services or the Brotherhood’s alliances with more vocal fundamentalist groups that think they have free rein on Egypt’s streets, the public blames Morsi.

9. The media: Freedom of expression was tightened under Morsi’s term. The Brotherhood’s errors became a target of the private media. The movement responded with open aggression. Independent media outlets were threatened with closure, journalists were investigated for insulting the president, and some were brought into court while others were threatened and tortured.

10. Electricity and fuel: The final impetus to the Sunday protest. By June 30, chronic gasoline shortages were common all over the country, while electricity cuts and rolling blackouts were the norm. Egypt’s sweltering summer found people in gas station queues and bread lines or at home, without fans or air conditioning, when the power went out. The exasperations of daily life stoked the country’s fury, and people took to the street.

Topol is a Bloomberg Businessweek contributor.

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-07-02/how-egypts-president-precipitated-a-crisis

MOHAMED MORSY and the Egyptians...

FIRST THE PEOPLE...

The fact remains that he was given a clear mandate. The elections of 23 and 24 may 2012 were observed world-wide and certified democratically free and fair.

Democracy does not come on a platter of gold. If the Egyptians (or opposition) have a problem with his administration, they should go through the democratic institutions that have been established. You can't eat your cake and have it. It is time for the Egyptians to grow up and walk their talk.

Democracy requires maturity. They should channel their energy to their representatives and convince them to impeach the president.

if they do not have thouse institutions, they should be more concerned with putting them in place...

And then MORSi (the learner)...

This man needs a lesson or two from Baba Sege. How do you remain in power with a military that is much stronger than you? Infact, he was never in power. Imagine the impudence of those generals. They served under Hosni Mubarak, albeit, corruptly. Yet Morsy allowed them to continue in their positions after the revolution. He should have consulted OBJ...

OBJ 101 is simple- Retire all of them. Promote the young ones and make them loyal to you. Every leader needs his own kitchen cabinet and a loyal backing is very key. You can't be looking over your shoulders while in power, especially when the guy behind you has a gun or even worse, an Apache Helicopter (note that you don't start the spelling of "Apache" with small letters, in case you don't know). That means his case was over even before it started. Too bad.


If 101 doesn't work, try OBJ102. This is a bit more difficult. Send the bunch of them on a foreign trip (via private jet of course), and then maybe the plane might develop a problem. Who knows? Hopefully!! Again there are people who do these things. Find out from them. You can talk to some former head of state of Nigeria. He may be able to help you.


If that doesn't work, OBJ103 would suggest you give them a lot of money to keep them quiet. Everyone has a price. Just find out theirs. The only problem is that you guys don't have oil money. So this may be a bit impractical.

If that fails, you can borrow Jerry101 and just kill the lot of them. This takes a lot of guts. Instils fear in everyone. it will announce to the world that you are not here to messs around. But you must be ready to follow through and do what is right. Afterall Jerry Rawlings is walking around today, a free man celebrated by all.

I would have recommended Abacha101 i.e. Put them in prison with the aim of killing them secretly. But this tends to create a lot of problems. Or maybe Abacha's was an exception.


One thing is certain. If you fail all these courses, there's no hope of moving on to 200 Level. Which explains why you will be given the boot barely few days after your one-year anniversary in office.

All jokes aside though, I will remember Mohamed Morsy as a man who stood strongly by his mandate and the democratic institution. He didn't waver in the face of tyranny by the military. The opposition would end up making him more of a hero (or worse still, a martyr) than a villain. When I watched his speech yesterday, I saw a man who was passionate about his people, who owned up and took responsibilities for his mistakes. I saw a man who understood what he swore to uphold, the constitution, and who understood that upholding that constitution meant not giving up, not abdicating. I saw a man who is staring at hopelessness in the face and saying "go te hell". Because when your military turns against you, there is absolutely nothing you can do. Even Ghadaffi had it better compared to Morsi. Morsi is currently a prisoner in his palace, a prince turned slave. yet he holds himself up. You can kill him, you can send him on exile, you can do anything but you cannot take away his mandate. He was elected to serve for 4 years. Shikena. And he stands on the authority of all egyptians...


The Egyptian people should understand that if they continue to boycott democracy like this, they will never move forward. Self restraint is very key. It is not a journey of one year. And I am in no way suggesting that they should remain placid like Nigerians. Yet a trial period is necessary for proper action points to be noted. You cannot really expect to get it right the first time after decades of degeneration (Again I am not validating Nigeria's perceived lack of progress).

Or maybe he will survive all this. Or even worse, maybe he will survive and end up being a terrible leader as they thought he would...

Only time will tell..

At some point in the future, our present will be history and these will be stories... (though we are still waiting for Mugabe).

PS: my opinion, so no link.

ichidodo: Is it a Video Game?

Yes!!

Courageous words from a man of steel. The true heroes of our time.
Respect brother. And your days shall be long.

untainted: Guardian I know, Vanguard I know, The Sun I know.
Please who is Osundefender?

Bigger question is "who reads and quotes osundefender?"

Prof Corruption: Well, I don't agree with you on the culpability of his parents, not at this moment. If we use the Mutallab case as a precedent, one has to be careful in rushing to conclusions. Let the parents come out and speak. let us examine his records etc before we can trace the failure to family level or upbringing failures.

The angle that he's a Nigerian because of his Nigerian parents is simplistic. Available information at this point simply points to a young Briton who got radicalized in Britain, committed a dastardly atrocity in broad day light in Britain and justified the unjustifiable on the alter of Islam. They-whoever that may take that pronoun-would have serious difficulty in exploring his Nigerianess to resolving this case. The guy was brought up in Britain. Britain, not Nigeria made him what he turned out to be. So the notion that the "ills of Nigerian society" are on display can not be substantiated with any piece of evidence.

Your third main point simply relegated education to nothingness. You learnt first at home but your "outlook" was basically product of education. Many were brought up to be Christians but later turned virtual atheists primarily as a consequence of education, not upbringing. The reorientation that comes from sound education can not be compared to upbringing or "home training". Education does change people in many ways that simply can't be enunciated here.

I believe it's time to discredit Islamism (not Islam) like the way communism was discredited or being discredited each and everyday. The idiotic act of appearing on television each time such culpability is on the door steps of Muslims and then say "Islam is a religion of peace" should stop. I am not convinced. They should take the message to mosques, training institutions, formal and informal gatherings that killing in the name of religion is desecrating same religion and whoever indulges in such act is acting against Allah and his messengers. Let them expose dubious religion leaders who continue to preach their parochial view and interpretations of Islam that enable humans to commit this act of inhumanity to humanity.

Well said Prof, very well said.

PHIPEX: Let's see if they'll declare Jihad after today's Jumat service. I suggest all mosques in the affected states should be keely watched because that's where they could start their retaliations from. Kudos to the Military.

Valid point. The possibilities of a reprisal attack by moslem northern youths exists and would escalate this matter beyond BH. I pray it doesn't happen. Chai!! This is actually a war. I pray ours is contained quickly before it gets to the dimensions we saw in Mali.

30DB4FA6: My nairalanders am a proud imo dude here am not married buh I want my wife bride price to b expensive dats where u wud value ur wife if una no get money to marry den stay shingle or u go idimu village near ikotun egbe go carry 1 mbeke Yoruba gurl for fwee d ones way keep face like WTF dey are d best becos winch no fit attark u for night b/cos if winch see her face dem go shawt WTF demon no dey attark demon and dey can't cheat on u I love my imo babes. IBO KWENU

Dude you funny die!!
" ones wey keep face like WTF"--> that has to be the meanest baddest line I ever heard. I almost fell off my sit laughing.
WTF!!!

babe4chi: U guyz re jus screamin IMO state!!! Its nt evry people in imo dat charges high... Where I cum frm,its nt high...

Sharp sharp disclaimer!!

igbsam: And you call that ridiculous ? My friend got married to an owerri girl last year. He paid a bride price of N2.5million, after which, he bought the wedding materials for all the relatives, from the mother, to the father down to the uncles and aunties, the sisters and cousins including nephews. He was also give 2 family members to train in school and business. After 8months of the wedding.....the bride's father demanded for a car and the father specifically asked for a 2005 c-class Mercedes Benz Car which he borrow money to buy for him. The mother asked for some money to fill her shop with stocks which my friend is still finding it difficult to give her. Isn't this ridiculous ?

Yes your story is a very ridiculous fabrication.

@ OP thank you for this informative post. I know most of the things you mentioned but I appreciate your taking time to put it all down here just to enlighten folks. Good job. Those who do good shall receive good in return and so shall you. Cheers.

jamace: Because this woman is a nobody, journalists published her name without batting an eyelid. If she were to be one big man or big woman at the top, her name will have been withheld.

And for the judge, because she is not a big woman or bigman in the society, you gave her a bail of N500,000 and 2 sureties IN LIKE SUM for an alleged offence of N1,900,000. Remember judge, that you will be judged according to how you judged one day.

It is just unfortunate that Nigeria has been made a jungle even by those who are supposed to protect it. The so-called professionals have turned Nigeria into a disgusting ANIMAL FARM. Woe unto them.

Exactly! And I am shocked at people's response. What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty.
Is it because she is a nobody? Moreso, bail is not meant to be punitive.
Why would a judge grant a first time offender bail of N1.5 million for alleged theft of N1.9 million? Even N500k is too much.

Anyways, may the truth prevail and the justice served.

Blood of god!

David!! Go forth and defeat like you were named.
Your moment of destiny is here. The moment you have been waiting for all your life.
Like David in the scriptures, they have seen you as a man of small stature, unworthy to trash the oppressors, ill equip to bring down the giants.
But trust in the Lord God of Manchester United, above Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool and Mancity he will keep you.
Above Barca, Realmadrid, Bayern Munich, Atletico Madrid he will raise you. Your fellow coaches shall call you blessed.
So GO Forth And Conquer England, Europe and the whole world. As long as the blood that flows through our veins remain red, we the fans of the Great Manchester United Football Club shall support you.


GLORY GLORY UNITED!!!

Aig-Imokhuede I hail you sir. Time to acquire more Access shares. This guy sure knows how to play his politics.

It will take some time. So just be patient.

PS: I am not speaking on behalf of the comapany.

I just happen to know.

It's amazing how people climb the ladder of success and forget how they got to the top.

cc: seun

I heard some dudes with connection to "Annonymous" were already making contact.
Power to the people. I still dey vex sha.

dulphines: Thank you Seun! What is left is for you to renumber them. 18 should now become 17.

16. Don't promote MLM schemes, HYIPS, or other questionable schemes on Nairaland.
18. Don't spam the forum by posting the same content over and over, to avoid being terminated.
19. Don't create a new account when banned for breaking a rule. If you do, make sure we don't find out

No he should leave it like that to remind everyone that comes to this house of the day we said NO! to terrorism on the internet. We refused to be cowed. We refuse to be intimidated. And there shall be no "Rule17" in this house.

Fourcade: Na correct businessman

Forget that businessman yarns. When you want to last in your chosen field, you do business with ethics.
You win with integrity. This seemingly small issue is going to cost him. All this negetivity is an opening for some smart dude to open his own site and publish a different set of rules that will attract traffic.

Seun has become complacent. He thinks one million cannot be reduced to one.
History Seun! You need to return to history.
These rules, especially rule 17, is akin to digging Nairaland's grave. A word is enough for the wise.
I am already seeking alternatives.

Seun: My Fellow Nairaland Members,

Your mixed reactions to the "new" rules have not gone unnoticed. While most people actually liked them, many people had one complaint or the other. To address your concerns, I have modified rules 1,4, 13, 15, and 21. I believe you will be pleased with the changes: https://www.nairaland.com/1026/nairaland-forum-rules-regulations

These rules are not as new as many people think. They are essentially the rules we have been enforcing all along, but they have been expressed in a more compact form to encourage you to actually read them. I created the 1st draft on the 7th of April and my fellow moderators gave me a lot of feedback which I incorporated into the rules before publishing them yesterday.

Rule 17 is the most controversial rule because it sounds unfair. My fellow moderators have debated this rule at length and it could not be changed. We cannot extend the prohibition against offence to other religions because that limits your freedom of speech, and we cannot remove that rule without jeopardizing security and the safety of lives. Sorry about this.

Best regards,
Seun Osewa.

Seun this number 17 rule is unjust and unfair. And worse, your attempt at rationalizing it is simply comical. I hope you have read your statement again and again. To me, it becomes more incredulous that someone of your stature and intellect could actually come up with the reasons you did. The only way I can rationalize your attempted rationalization of the incredibly and unbelievable senseless rule is that you included it under duress i.e. with a gun pointed to your head.

You need to change it. You have to.Everything will change if you do not. Times change and things change. I do not know what your situation is but if you will go down, you should go with principles. Not like this.

nyama!!

Seriously OP, do you expect people to advise you on your love life when you still have jamb to pass?

Better help yourself. The guy has done a great thing for you.
Focus on your studies and pass your jamb. Leave bf/gf games alone.

When the movie is screened and all the atrocities carried out by the Nigerian government displayed, all these accolades will turn to curses.

I cannot categorically...

Because I don't want to say one thing...

That's all.

Black Peni5: I want 12 girls and 1 boy...Bride price things $$$$$$

LMAO

Other people dey get retirement savings plan, you dey hope on bride price.

All join sha. LOL

rotlan: Bet my jummie beatz dem all

She does my brother. Was on page 2 when I saw this.
I am sure I don't need to continue.
You have proper bragging rights.

dammytosh: 1. Concentrate on how to make more money.

2. make more money or die trying.

3. Make more money

God bless you sir.