₦airaland Forum

dalaman:
If aliens are found I believe it will only affect theist like christians and Muslims.

As an atheist I believe that there is life in other parts of the universe.

TheKingIsHere:
You are the one coming up with a strawman argument.

You say something with no substantial evidence to your claim..

Be educated because the word Eko is a Bini word and never a yoruba word.

Even the Lagos state government agreed that its a bini word. So your argument is pointless.

https://lagosstate.gov.ng/about-lagos/

Billyonaire:
You are wrong. 100% wrong.

The Yoruba and the Bini (Benin) languages are offshoots of each other, because you guys are ancestral cousins who love to fight each other.
Eko is a Bini language and if you want to add ile to it, then you should know that Ile means House or Home...right ? So, you can not allow such opinion to control your mind. You need to stop reading half-baked history of people like Femi Okunnu who tell stories he read as opposed to the story being told by the indigenous Yoruba people.

I go into the trenches and I dine with the real original indigenous people and someday, I will tell the story of Mr. Lekki and Mr. Badagry, these are Portuguese people, and if Mr. Badagry owned the expanse bordering Seme Border end of Lagos and Mr. Lekki owned the other extreme which borders Ondo State after the Fulo communities, which Lagos are you talking about ?

Please do not confuse nairalanders with your factless right up. I am a friend of the Yorubas and I dine with them more than you guys who abandon your indigenous people. I defend Indigenous people in all my discussions.

Please be guided.

Billyonaire:
I disagree with Femi Okunnu on this; He is telling us the history of this land that I sit from 1861.

I am a researcher and there is compelling historical evidence pre-1800 that shows that the Portuguese were here long before the British showed up and battled the Portuguese as world power that they were and bullied the Portuguese out of this land.

Mr. Lekki, Mr. Fulo, Mr. Badagry and so many other guys from Portugal I prefer not to mention used this place as a slavehub in the 1500s and 1600s long before the Britons showed up. So, let us tell the history of Lagos, a Portuguese word, in truth. No one is interested in displacing the Yorubas, neither are the Yorubas trying to displace any other people. It is impossible, because even looking at it, Yoruba is not major language spoken in today's Lagos. It is English and Yorubas are not the majority of the tribes in Lagos, it is a cosmo-politan town.

Mr. Lekki, I have been to the village he ruled and use as Slave harbour and he gave instruction to be buried standing after the British stopped his slave merchant business and he refused to go back to Portugal, but his son did come after some years to exhume and cut off his head and take to Portugal.

Like I said, I research these things as I try to be very close to Indegenous people in order to find out the mystery behind attempts by successful leaderships of the world to destroy indigenous people, be it Aborigenes, Tibetans, Biafrans, Oduduwas etc

We must accept the fact that after the Bini people who camp here defeated the Ile Ife fishermen who also come to fish at the oceans and took over and named this place Eko, the Portugese slave merchant when they arrived called it Lagos. It was a free open place. But since the Yorubas dorminated the periphery of the place, it was only the possibility that when Nigiritia or Southern Soudan became Nigeria after amalgation of the diverse protectorates to eliminate the final strong-hold of the portugese, politics was in the hands of the people and the Yorubas were educated enough to migrate from their neighbouring villages to the seat of power from their nearby locale and concentrate in Lagos. If that is how Femi Okunnu come to his conclusion that Yorubas own Lagos, then he is right, but the word should be, that Yorubas were the highest the highest in population at a certain stage in the early days of Lagos and so may have had dorminant interest.

Lagos belongs to anyone who can afford a piece of her, but it is owned by the person that created the land and that person happens to live in every LandLord in this growing town.

Lagos is not a Yoruba State, it belongs to all. No emotion will stop this truth.

I will continue to tell the true story about this town using the true facts available, which I personally investigate as my curiosity drifts from one thing to the other in my continuous probe to becoming the greatest version of myself, God.

tycoon3:
OLOHUN OR OLORUN

I'm actually asking this question because most of us get confuse whenever we come across this..

I write, type, and even chat sometimes in Yoruba language but when its time to write God I get confused not knowing which to type "Olohun or Olorun" its sometimes frustrating and confusing...

Gurus come and sort this ooo

PAGAN9JA:
why are you christian/muslim?

Yes atheism is strange to Africa. what then stops you from practicing your tribal animism?

PAGAN9JA:
why are you christian/muslim?

Yes atheism is strange to Africa. what then stops you from practicing your tribal animism?

dalaman:
I could even practice a religion of my people that I find facinating. Many whites practice christianity and Judaism as a cultural heritage. They don't believe in it but just accept it as their cultural heritage.

I can practice a traditional African religion as a cultural heritage if I see one that facinates me, unfortunately there is non that facinates me. Non is reformed and they dwell too much on mythology and fiction.

dalaman:
I don't care if atheism is strange to anybody. If am to be religious I'll practice an African traditional religion. I don't know why we are practicing the religions of the invaders and slave traders. It doesn't make any sense at all.

dalaman:
I copied this from a friend's wall on facebook. It's pertinent so I'll drop it here

Once upon a time, our ancestors in Nigeria weren't muslims or christians ,they were proud animists and the Abrahimic concept and idea of God was all too alien to their culture. Back then our ancestors had their various beliefs and religions.

Then the white colonizers and slave traders together with the Fulani jihadist from the north led by Uthman Dan Fodio came and robbed them off, of most of their culture and beliefs and their names and imposed Islam on them in the north while the Europeans did same to those in the south. Ever since then the hausa people have been desperately trying so hard to become Arabs, whom they view as the master race and superior while the Christians have been trying so hard to become spiritual Jews. After all they are all worshipping the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob. Jews that have nothing to do with them at all.

But then some Hausa muslim fools or christains fools on facebook suffering from cognitive dissonance,indoctrination and slave mentality accuse me of dumping my ancestral culture and the religion of my forefathers for "western influenced atheism" and westernization, I sincerely wanted to ask them what they meant by "western influenced atheism" but I know my people,some are so ignorant that they can't even distinguish between myths,conspiracy theories,fiction , reality and facts. So I spared myself the trouble of having to listen to their foolish answers.

If we're all to go back to our roots, my friends, our roots are not Islamic or christian, our ancestors were animists,they didnt worship a foreign Allah or Yahweh ,it took more than a millenium for the mohammedan religion to come in contact with them and far more years for the Christain religion of the Roman empire to get to them, so are you implying that your forefathers were bloody uncivilized sub-human savages because they weren’t muslims or christians ?

What we call our religion is not really ours to begin with,the names we bear are mostly Arabic/ Roman names ,we adhere to an Arab/ Jewish religion, we pray to an Arab/Jewish God, the muslims even pary to their God in his native Arabic,all the festivities Nigerian muslims celebrate are Arab/islamic festivities,they believe Arabic is more superior to their native Hausa. Christians believe having what they call christian names are better than their tribal names .What exactly do you call that? Isn't that slave mentality of the highest order? Discarding your culture for that of your invaders and colonizers. Most of us are all suffering from stockholm syndrome without even realising.

So please before you accuse us atheist of leaving our culture and our ancestral religion for "western influenced atheism" (whatever the hell that means), I ask you this,is Islam a hausa religion? Is christianity an Igbo religion? Did Islam originate from the Hausa people? Was prophet Mohammad a Hausa man? What about Jesus did he originate from Imo or Bayelsa? Its a huge shame that we don't even know your own history and the history of the invaders that brought their religions to us.

We both suffer from the samething you accuse me of. Our only difference is choice. Most of you are muslims or christians because you were born into it,Islamic/Arab and Jewish culture and beliefs was shoved down the throats of your ancestors through bloody Jihads, slavery and conquet and they shoved it down yiur parents who shoved it down to you without any choice . Some of you all have had doubts but you're too scared to admit them or to question your religion. Stop deceiving yourselves you are not Christians or Muslims by choice. Speak for yourselves,you've discarded you culture for that of a foreign one and you're so far gone in your ignorance to even realise it.

Stop telling me that i bring shame to my society. I get to be the one who's ashamed of my society. Bunch of Arab and Jewish wannabes.

ScienceWatch:
I agree Sir, Low-level Atheists are very superstitious. They cling to half-baked scientific theory to boost their ego. It is baseless and empty because their comic book fantasies can not provide answers to the pressing needs of deep human suffering. Atheists want to clone humans without heart/emotions/soul to be low-level logical robotic beings.

Low-level Atheists claim that atheism is nothing but a "disbelief." Lol.
A dis-belief is in fact a belief in something else, such as the accidental Big-Bang between two misbehaved planets. Therefore all Low-level Atheists arguments are accidental.

Yes Sir, All Atheists arguments and trolling are really accidental !!

What has the honorable Nairalander, Vaxx have to say to help us move forward from all this ?

ScepticalPyrrho:
When it comes to proving that God exists, theists are not logical.
The main quality of a true adherent to a religion is to have a closed mind, and be less intelligent when the questions is concerned with the authenticity of religious claims.
Mixing up "theist" and "logic" as a word for arguments sake only shows how desperately he wants to win arguments...

If anyone haven't found God (literally), and believes anyway; that is an illogical position.

ScienceWatch:
This may interest you as a student of experiential reasoning. It is now 1am and I Am watching thousands of international pastors line up to attend a pastors conference and learn from TB JOSHUA. It is most valuable to learn what a global audience have to say about the same experience.

TrajansKong:
Speaking as an unbeliever, can I direct you to the story of Ham in your bible, Genesis 9:18–29? It is only very recently that the curses your God supposedly put on us have been dismissed as racist nonsense. Many whites and far too many of us still cling onto these anti-human beliefs...

Aaronsrod:
Do not mock the Lord our God!

Humanity was white and made in God's image before we turned to witchcraft and juju in the Garden of Eden. Now the stain of our sin is in our skin. We know this and yet we continue to defy our Creator with athiest questions and disobedience.

If we repent we can return to be as God meant us to be. Free from disease and hole in his sight!

SEEK DELIVERANCE IJNIP!

Preciousgirl:
Y do you ask

ScienceWatch:
LOL very loud !! This is a good one for Martinez19.
1Sharon, I know that you are using the nickname, Stumpy as a term of endearment. Your compassion for Martinez19 is heart warming.

One day God was handing out free limbs, there were long ques but Martinez19 became impatient and asked an Atheist amputee to hold his place in the line while he go to have a drink in a pub near-by. 4 hours later he came out of the pub mentally and spiritually intoxicated with a bottle of water in his hand, he got back to the line just as he was next to get his limb, but then he started arguing with God.

Martinez19 asked God with slurred speech to prove that he is God by turning his bottle of water into Richelieu Brandy. God remained silent. He then complained that he works long hours as a Security Guard at an institute for the disabled and criticized God for creating the world with long 24hr days. He said he will believe in God if God can change the days to more reasonable 15 hr days. God remained silent.

God remained silent.

ScienceWatch:
Lol. Let me know when you going to Ethiopia.

Hati13:
You will be allowed to take what ever you want

ScienceWatch:
If we accept the argument against God on the basis of the evil around us, then miracles aren’t going to change your mind, anyway (Matthew 12:39).
But when you accept God and His Word, you can understand how Genesis explains the death and suffering as a result of the failure of humanity, not God.

God uses miracles in particular points of time for very specific purposes. God doesn't need to prove Himself to us (we’re on trial, not Him), nor does He “need” to bless us. When He does bless us, it is entirely out of His mercy.

Amputations are one element of the consequences of death, degradation, and suffering that humanity and all creation bear because of our rebellion and sin. God has done greater works than restoring limbs. If He created the entire universe out of nothing, spoke all plants and animals into existence, sculpted and breathed life into the first two humans, and raised His Son from death, it is clear that He has the power to heal amputees if and when it is His will.

No human can perform healing miracles, it is entirely a product of spiritual force. NOT MANS ABILITY !

Hati13:
https://www.nairaland.com/3756319/visit-ethiopia

Hati13:
She is 4.4 million years and discovered in 1994. She is also from Ethiopia.

Hati13:
No she isn't. Adri is the earliest.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ardi

Preciousgirl:
Biblical references will be helpful

Thank you very much

AgentOfAllah:
Haha..I know what you meant, there is just no point distinguishing between humans and apes, because it might mislead people into thinking we're separate from them... But you can distinguish between monkeys and apes because they aren't the same

Eeroh95:
Genuine answers pls coz I've been think about it...or is everything bleeped up right from the beginning?

Jupxter:
It's okay brov. I'm learning to take criticisms, but it's a generation where people easily reach conclusions without careful evaluation.