₦airaland Forum

Nova1988:
I've already answered all your questions and you're still saying the same thing.

No one is trying to suppress the man, he was jailed for blasphemy.

don't you know what blasphemy means?

read it again all your questions were answered.

have a nice life sis.

Blasphemy has different meaning to different people. Saying that Jesus is not the son of God is blasphemy to some people. To others saying Mohammed is not a prophet is blasphemy. If every religion enacts blasphemy laws, then no one can have opinions contrary to the dogma of your sect.

mmsen:
He was killed because he blasphemed.

Imagine. How can you tell a Jew who reveres the name of YHWH that you are the only begotten son of his God. Then later on Romans declare him as God.
That one na the height of blasphemy.

vasel15:
Mumu, when the time is right you would be flooding to igbo land because that would be the new Singapore, lagos would be empty and your ports would be dry and your revenue would drop, haha,

Singapore ko, Dubai ni.
When had people in the history of the world ever flooded to igbo land? You guys had been migrating to other people's land ever before Nigeria was created. Even the white man avoided igboland like plaque and instead settled in the north and Lagos.

When you guys destroy your economy, just remain there to turn it to Singapore.

I am sure that you that is talking is not even in igboland but only go there for Christmas holidays once a year.

AntiChristian:
Yes, it shows you be able to defend what you post as truth! His opinions about the Muslim's God and Prophet which lead to 18 counts charges!

Why didn't he plead non-guilty as his lawyer advised?

I don't know. Maybe he was threatened, you know Muslims are extremely violent people. Maybe he was frustrated and mentally unstable, remember he had been locked up for close to 2 years.

There is no universal truth, even in science. What is regarded as truth is a consensus of opinion by people regarded as authority on that issue.

My truth might be different from your truth,and you have no right to impose your truth on me. I also don't have to prove my truth to you and you to me. As long as my truth does not imping on your rights or hurt you, I should live peacefully with my own truth.

AntiChristian:
Where do we draw the line under free speech? I don't think you know that most of all those "constitutional freedoms" has limits?

The Bible says such too. No need to be vexed up. Preach what is in your Books. Bala was not preaching anything! Why compare Islam with Christianity on an atheist's matter?

Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership can righteousness have with wickedness? Or what fellowship does light have with darkness? 15What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? Or what does a believer have in common with an unbeliever?
2 Cor 6:14-16



So was Bala inviting Muslims to his atheism or just inciting them? Note that he pleaded guilty to the 18 counts even against his lawyer's advice!

He posted his opinion on social media, he did not go to the public and incite anyone to violence (a thing Islamic clerics are known for). How can you sentence a man for 24 years for voicing his opinion on Facebook or twitter. That mean a lot of opinions posted here on nairaland will deserve a 50 year sentence if many of them (including me) steps into kano.

matri6:
this is the main issue with nigerians. they read to attack but never read to learn.

abeg, what is the correlation of the thread with the thrash you spew here?
if you have no opinion to contribute you can walk.

and by the way he wrote some social menance in the country. why is it that olosho is what you only capitalize on?
...
well, these could be the possibilities of your ranting here

*you are an olosho.
*or you have a relative that is one.
*or you carry them.
...
probably you could train up your daugthers to be a professional olosho.
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sorry if my words seems harsh.

Your over bias over religious mind should have told you that I don't have any disagreement with the post except when he referred to "oloshos" as a crime.

Then you go through the often worn out path of attacking me instead of attacking my point.
I am a man, a married one with kids at that. So why bring my daughter or family into this. You must be very shallow minded.

But let me answer you concerning my daughter. I doubt my daughter would be a cheap olosho as I provide her with the best moral and formal education in can afford. But if after all that she decides to end up an olosho, I would never see her as a criminal.

Yahoo is another matter. If any of my sons engages in yahoo, i will disown them.

Ken4Christ:
No, it's not a joke. Our Lord Jesus is not a created being. He is your creator. He has always been with God from the beginning. He only humbled himself and became a man just to save you and me.

The following scripture will help you understand what I am saying :

John 1:1-4
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

The word in the passage above is talking about Jesus.

Read what Jesus said himself:

John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM.

He told the Jews that he existed before Abraham. He used the same phrase God used when Moses asked him who will I say sent me. God told Moses, tell him that I AM THAT I AM sent you - Exodus 3:14.

In one of the prayers he offered, he said:

John 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory WHICH I HAD WITH THEE BEFORE THE WORLD WAS.

Jesus is more than a man. He was God human flesh. He is the express image of God. No wonder he said:

John 14:9....Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? HE THAT HATH SEEN ME HATH SEEN THE FATHER; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

Bulshit that the Jews themselves did not accept. They did not even accept jesus claim of being the Son of God, not to talk of the later Roman Catholic claims of being God himself. If he had claimed to be God, the Jews would have termed that blasphemy and would have killed him earlier. Ordinary he called himself king of the Jews, and the people stoned him and called for his crucifixion. The Roman authorities just thought he was a mad man.

Barcaking2:
Stay in your lane bro...
He died for my sins. Emphasis min not yours.

Jesus Christ is a the word from God and a spirit from Allah according to your belief.

He is still alive since you people did not believe He died and resurrected but still with Allah who gathered Jesus to himself

Let me stop here for now but urge you to wait for anoda opurtunity or thread to discuss it.

The thread talks about the unjust sentence due to a balsphemy law whatever that means.

Bullshit. This is the narrative the Romans created to perpetually enslave the minds of the ordinary people. The Bullshit was force into people by force, the way the Muslims are forcing stupid bullshits into the minds of people employing violence, intimation and threats.

Islam a different side of the same coin. In fact Islam was created by the Vatican to incorporate the religion of the Arabs, since they refused the initial Christian bullshit due to cultural differences.

The same Arabs and European have used these same religion and tactics to hold Africans in perpetual slavery. They build a prison for your mind from which you can never escape. Blasphemy laws are one of the cells of that prison.

Barcaking2:
I am a Christian, who strongly believe that Jesus Christ died for my Sins.

There is no need "defending " God... He is well more than able to defend Himself...No need for court case or recriminations from mortals. Moreover
i strongly believe in GOD CASE NO APPEAL

It is up to the Muslims to share their thought.

Sorry to say, Jesus did not die for any ones sins, he died because his people (The Jews) did not buy into his bullshit. They decided in unison to kill him.

pansophist:
Yahoo boys, pastors, prostitutes are all symptoms of a failed system, a destroyed culture, and a directionless future. It's easy to blame these boys, but where the work is, is for the leaders to lead by example without embezzling. It's heartbroken when you did all what society said you should do, such as going to school, but end up been paid an amount that can't buy a bag of rice.

Meanwhile, those without conscience are living large. Yahoo boys and oloshos are cashing out big time. It's heartbreaking. You're effectively punished for being good and living upright, so it's only a matter of time before you say, fork it, to hell with uprightness, let me join. Especially if you've lost your loved ones due to lack of funds.

It will actually get worse. This is nothing compared to what is yet to come. I remember ten years ago like it was yesterday. Nigeria was good, I mean good compare to now. One pounds (not dollar, euro, but pounds) was less than two hundred naira, now its pursuing eight hundred. So if you kept one million naira in the bank for example in Nigeria ten years ago, you're actually poorer and lost about 60% of your wealth.

A country where the future depreciates, instead of appreciate your assets is a failed society. Nigeria is dead long ago, but corpse normally doesn't smell immediately. Its smell badly and dangerously as times goes. From the constitution, the leaders, the amalgamation, it was set up to fail. Know this, accept it, or do something with it. But don't live in ignorance, its more dangerous. Nigeria, is, dead.

What do you have against oloshos that you are equating them to yahoo yahoo? Do they take your money under false pretenses? Do they steal your money without rendering a service?

You negotiate and the deliver on what you negotiate and you are required to pay, how is that a crime?

Abeg carry your sermon go church or mosque. That where you can criminalize prostitution. Besides, prostitution has so many degrees and variations. What do you call taking a girl to eat and then and up taking her home and then giving her "transport money"? What do you call giving a girl money, gifts and smart phone (including recharge card) before she lets you sleep with her?

Amujale:
Whilst our competitors are busy exploiting the very things that us African ought to be the authorities, some of us are being flustered by these foreign extremist ideologically based rhetoric and as such are somewhat disconnected from the reality of things, one of which is that whether one would want to accept it or not, we are in an ongoing global competition with other continents; these are the actual facts.

My thing is that, we MUST bin all these foreign extremist ideologies and concentrate our focus on reality.

That's was the original intention of our "competitors", to distract us with stupid religious beliefs, so they can take control of our resources and mind, thereby rendering us helpless.

vasel15:
Why are you taking panadol for another man's headache? You are just a headless nairaland chicken

Because you guys will start flooding other regions, especially Lagos, and start constituting nuisance when your region becomes unbearable. Just like the situation now where Lagos and the South West has been flooded with northerners running from their region. Every where you look you see Fulanis and northerners in Lagos.

allcomage:
Folks let's show some love for the middle belt people that are being slaughtered every day and night and ancestral lands being taken away by fulani invaders. In travelled to Igbo land last month, students were going to school, no refugee camps, no beggers in the streets, no kids in the streets, I saw healthy Igbo moving vibrantly all over the place ,no disabled people, no people sleeping in the streets, I saw peopleeating 2k food in the restaurants, mamaput is from N300 and they are buying. Okay compare, in the North millions are in refugee camps without food and sanitary facilities, no food, millions of children are in the streets without hope of getting education and even schools are shut down,millions of disabled lined up the streets begging etc. Let's leave Igbo or let's ask government to organise referendum for them please. Igbo are not complaining why this na.

Leave middle belt to cry for their own problems, cry for yours. You are not "voltron - defender of the universe" that want to fight for everybody without being asked.

Dont worry, at the rate you guys are going, you will eventually catch up with the north in terms of backwardness and refugees. It took Boko Haram about 10 years to destroy the north. It will probably take IPOB 15 to 20 years to do same at the rate it is going. And the Fulani led government would happily let you guys destroy yourselves.

vasel15:
They won't feel it, the government need to feel the heat, Mondays is the best to hit them without firing a single bullet

Which government? Which heat will the government at Abuja feel by igbos in Anambra or Abia sitting at home?

Which heat will the zoo led by Buhari feel if your students sit at home every Monday instead of learning to catch up with the world educationally?

What do you mean hit them without firing a single bullet? Do you know how many igbos that had been killed or have their properties destroyed because the defied your "sit at home" order?

You guys reason like cows.

newwater:
Atheist face your business no poke nose to what does not consined you. Hypocriters

Who is more hypocritical than you people that claim "Islam is a religion of peace" but are the most violent and blood thirsty people on earth.

RussellRutherfo:
So one can be sentenced to 24years imprisonment for criticising a Pedophile false illiterate genocidist schizophrenic Bedouin blasphemer Caravan thief prophet MuhamMad.


Islam: the religion invented by Devil's only slave, Muhammad(Curse be upon him in Hell).

Hadith
"حَدَّثَنِي فَرْوَةُ بْنُ أَبِي الْمَغْرَاءِ، حَدَّثَنَا عَلِيُّ بْنُ مُسْهِرٍ، عَنْ هِشَامٍ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنْ عَائِشَةَ ـ رضى الله عنها ـ قَالَتْ تَزَوَّجَنِي النَّبِيُّ صلى الله عليه وسلم وَأَنَا بِنْتُ سِتِّ سِنِينَ، فَقَدِمْنَا الْمَدِينَةَ فَنَزَلْنَا فِي بَنِي الْحَارِثِ بْنِ خَزْرَجٍ، فَوُعِكْتُ فَتَمَرَّقَ شَعَرِي فَوَفَى جُمَيْمَةً، فَأَتَتْنِي أُمِّي أُمُّ رُومَانَ وَإِنِّي لَفِي أُرْجُوحَةٍ وَمَعِي صَوَاحِبُ لِي، فَصَرَخَتْ بِي فَأَتَيْتُهَا لاَ أَدْرِي مَا تُرِيدُ بِي فَأَخَذَتْ بِيَدِي حَتَّى أَوْقَفَتْنِي عَلَى باب الدَّارِ، وَإِنِّي لأَنْهَجُ، حَتَّى سَكَنَ بَعْضُ نَفَسِي، ثُمَّ أَخَذَتْ شَيْئًا مِنْ مَاءٍ فَمَسَحَتْ بِهِ وَجْهِي وَرَأْسِي ثُمَّ أَدْخَلَتْنِي الدَّارَ فَإِذَا نِسْوَةٌ مِنَ الأَنْصَارِ فِي الْبَيْتِ فَقُلْنَ عَلَى الْخَيْرِ وَالْبَرَكَةِ، وَعَلَى خَيْرِ طَائِرٍ‏.‏ فَأَسْلَمَتْنِي إِلَيْهِنَّ فَأَصْلَحْنَ مِنْ شَأْنِي، فَلَمْ يَرُعْنِي إِلاَّ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم ضُحًى، فَأَسْلَمَتْنِي إِلَيْهِ، وَأَنَا يَوْمَئِذٍ بِنْتُ تِسْعِ سِنِينَ‏.‏"

Narrated Aisha:
The Prophet (ﷺ) engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age.

Sahih al-Bukhari, 3894
In-Book Reference: Book 63, Hadith 119
USC-MSA web (English) reference: Vol. 5, Book 58, Hadith 234 (deprecated numbering scheme).

But those that rape and kill women and children While shouting "Allahu Akbar" are given amnesty.

Islam is truly the religion of the insane.

xelly:
We are not ready to confront the terrorist.

Who are the we? If you are talking about the Federal Government, they are not interested in security and other core issues. They are only interested in sharing of money and the perks of power. If you are talking about citizens, then it is pertinent that the citizens must protect themselves, their families, their properties, communities and their land. General T.Y.Danjuma had advised citizens to defend themselves ages ago. Even El Rufai after talking with Buhari realised that self help is the only option left for us.

NamelessOGBENI:
Everybody is a wailer now.

Interesting time ahead...

Even this Imam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvzExcHsPsM

xelly:
We don't have someone ready to confront these guys. How do you explain to me that you saw the terrorist that attacked, killed and held the train hostage for hours and kidnap passengers as well?

Why will Army, Airforce and Police not follow them even if it takes days?

Just how is the head of Army and Airforce still holding their office after such show of shame?

The boys are 20 or 100 for example. Mobilise Army, police and Airforce to go after them. They must exhaust their bullet even if it takes 10 days.

Here we hear excuses or what should I call it " They entered inside the Bush with kidnapped passengers.

What a shame!

We don't have what can be regarded as police, Army and Air Force anymore.
The Police are more interested in running after yahoo boys (or youths that looks rich). They spend most of their energies and resources pursuing and extorting young men. The other ones not on the streets are acting as domestic help for politicians and big men.

The army are only after oppressing civilians. They prefer to live among civilians in cities where they live very comfortable lives.

The Air Force? Does Nigeria still have an Air Force? How many fighter or reconnaissance planes does nigeria have? I wonder what the day jobs of Nigerian Air Force officers entails, outside beating up civilians.

Maxymilliano:
Even Daily Trust could not help but joined the group of wailers

Wailers you say. So you mean daily trust should not join the growing list of all Nigerians wailing the killing of Nigerians by terrorists on a daily basis, while Buhari seems unconcerned. The growing list of wailers have included the members of the House of representatives, the Kaduna state government and even Ashiwaju Bola Tinubu, who had to cancel his birthday even due to wailing.

Buhari government seems to be the most incompetent government since government came into existence.
In saner climes, the government should have resigned long ago. Jonathan that I vehemently condemned his incompetence in handy Boko Haram was not this incompetent

safarigirl:
Just one question

Who will stay with the kids while they are not in school?

Which parent will leave their job and have to stay at home with these kids?

OP, do you have a child?

You think parents rush their kids because they really want to?

Let me educate you on the realities of Nigerian parents, because I noticed you have a lot of opinions that are more idealistic than realistic

BOTH parents have to go to work

Labour Laws do not favour even a decent maternity leave. Do you know that women have to return to work 3 months after birth? They cannot even find someone to stay with babies, how much more older children?


If people could keep their kids with them longer, they would, but this your post reeks of ignorance and insensitivity.

You cannot train anyone's child for them. When you start having your own kids, try out this your method and see how successful it is.

Don't mind them they don't have kids yet. When they start having kids and both parents need to work in order to make ends meet (even with both working the ends never meet anyway), either parents can't afford to stay at home with kids. Taking the kids to school as soon as they are weaned is the next best thing to hiring a nanny.

SmartProf:
Members of the violent religion will rather cause more humanitarian crisis than feed the poor.

To me both muslim and Christian religion should be banned in Nigeria. Both have created more harm than good to the society.

A religion that its adherents can kill, kidnapp and rape innocent women including children while shouting "allahu Akbar" and then immediately going to pray has destroyed human conscience and humanity.

A religion that promotes corruption and acquisition of wealth through any means necessary as evidence of blessing, and then showing of such in a public display in thanksgiving or in so called testimony has also destroyed conscience and basic humanity.

BRATISLAVA:
His career isn't finished. You'll be surprised that the people cheering him on will find a way to have him reinstated, if he doesn't spearhead it himself.

The problem with cancel culture. It doesn't hold water when it should. It's merely a tool for hippies and other permissive types. Like the Hollyweird crew.

Believe me, his Hollywood career is over. No producer or director will ever star in in a movie again after this.

He might still make in in Rap music though, where violence is celebrated.

Savagery101:
One quick question: is adeyinka grandrRat a freedom fighter?? No let me press your mumu botton oooo

Whether freedom fighter or slavery fighter, violence is never the solution. Violence only begets more violence until everyone is consumed.

gidgiddy:
You call this inciting violence? Really?

To you kanu can call for the killing of your wife or mother, and he will not be inciting violence.

With all the evidence supplied by the good people of nairaland, you are still living in denial. Kanu just like Adeyinkas son or Shakau are instigators of violence and deserved to be removed from the streets.

boyfrank:
Ukraine is industrialised, though not on the level of Germany. Shows u didn't understand history. The reason Germany and Japan recovered so fast was because if the US marshal plan. The same US is already preparing billions of dollars in aid to Ukraine.

Ukraine industrialized? For where? What industries does Ukraine have? Ukraine is industrialized and they are always begging the US for aid and military hardware. Japan and Germany had a massive military industrial complex, they did not beg anyone for military equipment. Germany conquered most of Europe, japan conquered most of south east Asia including China, and you are comparing with Ukraine that is always begging everyone for help. Germany also almost defeated Russia if not for massive military aid from the US.

You are a poor student of history.

gidgiddy:
Show us one example of where Kanu was inciting violence against Yorubas or Fulani's

http://pmnewsnigeria.com/2015/06/26/nigerians-should-ignore-hate-messages-from-radio-biafra-says-nbc/
Oya next excuse.

hammer567:
KUMUYI WAS PREACHING ONE NIGERIA TO IGBO CONGREGATION.

Does Kumuyi not have freedom of opinion and expression again? Is preaching one Nigeria a crime in igboland?

SIMON EKPA IS DEALING WITH PASTORS IN THE EAST.

Dealing as of how?

UNDERSTAND SOMETHING ABOUT IPOB, IF YOU CROSS THEM, THEY WILL COME FOR YOU.

Like ISIS or Boko Haram that cannot be crossed?

GO AND SEE WHAT THEY ARE DOING TO SOLUDO.

What are they doing to Soludo? Do you think Anambra people will allow you to do anything to Soludo?

IhateYouMan:
To the best of my knowledge, having listened to MNK for 4 consecutive months, he was indeed loud mouthed and provocative, he also promoted self defence against security forces - but I never heard him call for the genocide of any tribe. Stop being disingenuous, it belittles your position.

Then you only started listening to Kanu. Kanu of 2014 to 2017 was an advocate of violence. He even went to world igbo Congress to solicit for guns. He hated Yorubas calling them all sorts of names ie Ewedu eaters, Afonja, Bastards. Traitors, demons, etc. During that time there was beginning to be hatred between yorubas and igbos, who hitherto had had good relations for decades. That hatred is yet to subside even today.

He even preached hatred against fellow igbos who did not buy into his ideology. Remember Ekwerenmadu.

hammer567:
U CANNOT LIE AGAINST NNAMDI KANU.


THIS IS HIM, SEND IT TO BINTA NYAKO.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WijQu_mQrc

This video was 2020 after Kanu had toned down his hate rhetoric. Kanu from 2014 to 2018 was spewing hate on radio up and down. He even promised to bring Buharis head on a plate.

gidgiddy:
Is Pastor Kumuyi a tribe? Give us one example where Nnamdi Kanu incited anyone against any tribe.

In Kumutis case, Nnamdi Kanu against him coming the East for Crusade


But Adeyinka Grandson was telling Yorubas to kill Igbos, seize their investments and chase them out of Igbo land

You people live in denial.
kanu started his campaign from radio biafra London inciting hatred and violence against Fulanis and Yorubas. He seemed to have toned down his rhetoric lately, but the seeds of hatred he sowed had terminated.

IhateYouMan:
Adeyinka Grandson was advocating for the genocide and extermination of Igbos. The idiot lives here in the UK. Nobody else has spewed such hatred and vitriol as this deluded man. He should have been jailed for life.

But Igwe Kanu's son and his radio biafra was advocating for genocide and extermination against Fulanis and Yorubas. He even pronounced a fatwa against Pastor Kumuyigoing going to preach in Aba.