₦airaland Forum

Phut:
Feed the baby when? Tina’s husband is a bus driver. Tina also works. If she feeds the baby in the morning and comes back 12-14 hours later (accounting for Lagos traffic) do you know what 12-14 hours of no food would do to a 2-3 month old baby? When Tina recognized the situation as dire, she took the baby once more to the hospital for treatment.
The teen mother is very culpable in all this. She is a troubled teen, who abandoned her baby and was in gross dereliction of her duties. The couple reported her several times to their compound people, but the teenager would not listen and ran off to do some “highly questionable” work, while abandoning her baby. When she ran off to follow prostitutes, why did she not take her baby along. Why did she not cry out if and when her baby was seized, initially? She waits till her baby is at the point of death to resurface with a cock and bull story that her baby was seized because of hospital maternity/delivery bills. Meanwhile Tina continued to spend on medical bills after the girl ran off. They even made Police reports, documenting that the teen mother had absconded.
The girls ways are not pure. They helped her and she is repaying their good with evil. Please watch the video. Avoid the danger/pitfalls of a single story.

The teenage and human rights lawyers just want to extort the poor couple. If the couple are able to get good lawyers, they would go scot free. The teenage girl abandoned a 2 months old baby who should be on exclusive breastfeeding and people are still supporting her. Nigerians are really weird people. A girl that should be cooling her heels in prison is the one that people are feeling sorry for.

Even though the couple made a grave mistake by letting the baby die, they should at least be commended for spending money on both the teenage girl and the baby. They paid all the maternity and delivery fees (and that is not cheap nowadays). Where are the girls patents and family in all these? Where is the man that got her pregnant? Why does the couple have to adopt the baby by force?

nzeobi:
Why won't she feed a baby in her custody, why does it cost.please be rational

Did she agree for the baby to be put in her custody? The mystery here is why was a 5 month old baby in her custody in the first place?

nzeobi:
Did you expect the woman to admit her wrong doing, even if the mother abandoned the baby, she as a mother could have feed the baby well.

That's emotional blackmail.

You want her to feed every starving baby she knows because she is mother?

goodheart01:
So u see my point?? Certainly u won't let the baby die. Same way the madam shouldn't have let the baby deteriorate to that stage. This proves she's a liar!

The couple is poor and illiterate. I am not making excuse for them, and they should face the extent of their culpability. But I put the blame more on the girl, her parents and the man that got her pregnant

goodheart01:
There's nothing like blackmail. She should have contacted the necessary authorities . Okay let's put it this way, what if you were in the madam's shoes what would u have done?? Cry blackmail and allow the baby starve to death?

Me put into such position? Impossible. Even as I am, I am not prepared to take care of a baby from my own loin, not to talk of another man's baby.
If in the very unlikely even someone abandons a baby at my doorstep, I will get my lawyer and police involved. I will summon the parents of the baby and ask the courts for refund of all monies I spent while the baby was in my custody.

goodheart01:
It's easy to tell that the woman is a bloody liar. Okay assuming the girl abandoned her baby, didn't the woman notice the baby being malnourished?! Why couldn't she get baby food at that earlier stage to save the baby's life? And at what point did she employ the service of the nurse? If she had cared for that baby as she insinuates, we won't be talking about this story now. She starved and watched the baby diminish simple!!

She has her own baby to feed. Remember her husband is a bus driver.
She was put in a catch 22 situation. She is being blackmailed to feed a baby that's not hers while she also has her own baby to feed.

motionarena:
if she can't feed d child then why not pass the baby to the necessary authorities who can.

Look at that child, that is weeks of starvation

Can you please list the authorities she can pass the baby to. Please remember it's not her baby, so what legal rights does she have to pass the baby to anyone?

vonlogon:
Worst case, take the baby to a police station and make a clear statement exonerating yourself of any damage that could occur in the future. Like I said earlier, I'm not taking sides but I have compassion on Tina because the baby died in her custody and trust our society. They will stigmatise her.

Take baby to police station? Maybe you are not domiciled in nigeria. Nigeria police operates like a criminal organization. The Nigerian police would accuse her of kidnapping the baby and arrest the madam, and then ask her to bail herself with at least N150,000

Ordinarily helping an accident victim or being a good Samaritan can get you in trouble with the police.

motionarena:
even if the mother abandoned d baby why will d madam allow the child get to this point.
This is pure starvation and there is no excuse for that she is heartless

This is pure blackmail.
So she must by force feed the baby even if she can't or not willing to, because the baby will starve to death and she will be arrested?

vonlogon:
Sir/ma,
In my opinion, even if the girl ran away and left the baby or even joined the family pregnant, or didn't breastfeed the baby, you will still agree that a lot of babies lost their mothers at birth and survived without breastfeeding. The woman claimed to have employed a nurse and even aid 30k and after all this, the intervention of police and social workers were required for the girl to access her baby.

I'm not taking sides, but I'm thinking the woman should just own up to her errors. The baby was in her custody and in the process ended up malnourished

What do you want the madam to do if girl ran away and left the baby? Are you saying she must against her will take care of a baby she has no relations with?

This is a case of societal failure. There should have been an institution where such babies are dropped to prevent them from dying or suffering. In the West, if your neighbour reports the maltreatment of a baby or a child, the child would be taken away from the care giver (even if it's the parent) and taken care of by the state.

Gadafii:
Shey the wicked devilish madam go gree say she starved that infant

Na she born am? It's not her duty to feed a baby that not hers or adopted by her?

Why did she refuse to breastfeed her own baby, can you tell us

Are you talking about the madam or the teenage mother? There is no proof that the madam refused to feed her own child.

Was she owing you like she claimed

We don't know yet. If She left her baby without making provisions for its feeding and upkeep, then she will have reimburse those that paid for the child's upkeep. That's how it's done in other jurisdiction. You can't just drop your baby in other people's house and then demand they feed and care for your child.

Wo, no need to ask plenty questions, this Tina woman no wicked woman and should be made to face the law to it's full length, case dismissed

Yes all responsible for the baby's death must be made to face the law to it's full length, the madam, the mother, the man that fathered the child, the nurse, all involved.

Bastardlyrich:
But my tribe is in warri and that boy is not our king and as far as Niger Delta is concerned, itsekiris is below ijaw.
We are the leaders of Niger delta.
And I don't like itsekiris they bend towards afonja cowards than other tribe that bends towards east.
Wish they can be carved to join those afonja who are cowards, backstabbers,ritualist, propagandist,rapist and liars
And these qualities of afonja is what I hate most even in individuals.
Itsekiris won't want to join our Niger delta republic and worst is if we get biafra.
So stop insulting ijaws.
Say olu of itsekiris I take God beg you.

Another IPOB youth.
Displaying violent, chest beating and terrorist behaviour.
I am certain you are either from Bayelsa or Umuahia (or at least one parent).

Ok. The king of Warri should be called the "Pere of Ijaws"

Bastardlyrich:
Trash,which of warri why not oba of Yoruba muslims.lol
I hope he doesn't provoke Tom polo shall make Tom no call millitants
Please you are insulting ijaws when you say olu of warri.
We ijaws are peace lovers untill provoked.

Believe me Tompolo has no problems with Itsekiris (his beaf is with Ayiri for obvious reason)

It's Olu of Warri. That's the recognized appellation as recognized by the whole world. Kings are associated with kingdoms and never with tribes or nationality.

As long as the Federal Government recognize Olu of Warri, the state Government recognize Olu of Warri, James Manager recognizes Olu of Warri, Edwin Clark recognizes Olu of Warri, your own nuances are irrelevant

Bastardlyrich:
Let him try it na,na ijaw ooo.
There are three feared that tribe in Nigeria.
Igbos
Ijaws
Fulanis.
Every other tribe are afraid it these three tribe.

Even Senator James Manager and the Ijaw community came to pay homage. I was unable to capture the Ijaw entourage.

We don't seem to have problem with Ijaws in Delta, we are closely knit and inter marry. The problem seem to be from Ijaws from Bayelsa.

Amhappy:
It doesn't matter if they are related by blood or not. The day they took her, she became their responsibility. They reported to the police that the girl disappeared and not that a baby was abandoned in their home. Because if they did the police would have directed them to the right authorities. The woman even used the word husband sister to describe the girl. We know how kin works in Igbo land. They didn't take her back to the village neighbour. They accepted the baby under their roof and left him to die. What happens to the duty of care? They don't need to abandon their baby to take care of this baby. Even my mother's goat feed her kid alongside another kid. Only a mother understands this situation better. Please allow me to vent. Good morning.

You are just being unreasonable. Probably you are too young to understand the pains of nursing a newborn baby.

The couple made terrible decision in taking a pregnant teenager to come and take care of their own newborn. Probably they were desperate. But it backfired.

Everyone from your village is called your brother or sister in this part of the world even though you are not related. The husband specifically mentioned that they are not related. Since they are from the same village, the wife obviously would call her sister or cousin-sister.

Zooposki:
What’s the purpose of these thread?

To showcase the rich cultural heritage of the Itsekiris.

Amhappy:
I watched the video. We don't need long stories. Let me for a moment believe that a 19yr old mother (your husband niece) abandoned her baby with you a matured over 30 women like me. How can that child under your watch wither away like that without you doing anything madam? If you and your family is starving we will see same kwashiorkor on you. His mother is foolish but you Tina is wicked. You starved a child to death period.

You are not be fair on the couple.

First of all the teenage girl is not the husbands niece but the daughter of a village neighbour, they are not related. Then why will you force a struggling couple who is nursing her own baby (and working at the same time) to take care of another person's baby?
Where I blamed the couple is not involving the girls family or reporting to relevant authorities that a baby had been abandoned in their care.

The said they reported to the police, but I doubt the police has the facilities to cater for abandoned babies.

oyatz:
Did you follow this marital drama from the beginning?

As I said, there is no evidence of marriage, so there can't be marital drama. It's more of boyfriend and girlfriend drama.

Didn't you hear her family members confirming her mental challenges and saying that the she is being treated?

Is the family member that pronounced her mentally challenged a psychiatrist? How did he arrive at the diagnosis? And what treatment did he prescribe? Furthermore what is her relationship with the said family member?

If Precious says she wants to visit , won't the host be informed to make themselves available to receive her on the appointed date?

So every time Precious wants to see her 3 sons that she birthed, she will have to always infirm the host to book an appointment? Should the host and her not have a custody sharing arrangement since the children belongs to them both equally?

Precious Chikwendu was caught in adultrous acts with a Naval Officer, she ran away from her home and started posting videos on the social media showing a family altercations (no actual physical assault) to claim that she was being beaten, she also said FFK was sleeping with the housemaid curiously a month later she said the same FFK is impotent!, FFK hates Igbo, FFK doesn't pay the house workers well, one of the children has COVID-19, She also raised the wrong allegation that there was a wound on the forehead of the son (the video of the children released the following day disproved such spurious allegations) , Precious later released a video where she was crying that she was being prevented from seeing her children.
In all of these, what exactly do you think she hopes to achieve?

All these are irrelevant to the matter at hand. The issue at hand is shared custody between the parents of 3 children. They were not married, so if the relationship breaks down, either party can phuck whosoever they like. After all FFK had Phucked other women, even while he was legally married.

Now, in this age of social media as you said what do you think the people on social media will do for her?

It's because of social media that you and I are arguing about it. With eyes on the case the judge and the judiciary will be a bit more careful

She was NOT legally married to FFK so she lacks the legal capacity to sue him for divorce or make claims for financial settlement.

Her lawyers never talked about divorce, thats your own conjecture. What she wants is legal custody of her children.

oyatz:
Precious Chikwendu ran away from her marital home after being cought in adultrous acts with a Naval Officer, started posting all sorts of allegations against the husband on social media and after a year, she now wants to return to the same home to take the children she had abandoned for over a year? She has no viable source of income and there are videos of her on the internet smoking and twerking with another lady.

If you are the husband, will you just release the children to such a woman?

Do you have some sort of mental blockage? Have you not been reading that they were never married and that FFK never paid any dowry on her? There was never a marital home. She was at best only a baby mama, a live in girlfriend.

She never claimed she wants to return to FFK's, she might have moved on to someone else. After all she is still young and beautiful. What she wants is a relationship with and access to her children. Is that a crime?

ceevee2003:
why clear her hospital bill in the first place only to kill the child? They would have been better off if held in the hospital. At least, they for get help one way or the other. This is unbelievable wickedness!

Not practicable to abandon the baby in the hospital. If the baby died in the hospital, the couple would still be liable.

Here is the story from the teenage mother's perspective.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdVdWyCJPXM

Now compare it to the couple's story and you will realize the teenage mother is not telling the whole truth.

She abandoned the baby with the couple and wanted to force them to adopt it. The couple on the otherhand failed to feed and care for the baby and left it to starve to death.

ruggedtimi:
she must have gone to the police, but you don't know how Nigeria police work, the stereotype surrounding Nigeria police must have giving her no hope. She has no money what do you expect.

But she went to the police after the baby dues despite how the police work. Stop defending the wayward teen. Why not ask who is responsible for her pregnancy and what about her actual family, where are they in all these. Why put the burden of feeding and caring for your baby on complete strangers who have a baby of their own?
I doubt she is even 19. She must be younger than 18.

Rickylambert:
I also watched the video.At this moment,it’s easy for emotions to occupy the larger parts of reasoning and judgment.But even before I watched the video,I already suspected something wasn’t right with the said mother.How could she had passed a night or two without her baby against her wish?
I blame the woman for not taking the baby back to her in the village immediately.In all,it might just be a case of unwanted pregnancy.

It is a case of unwanted pregnancy. The teenage mother abandoned the baby with the couple and the couple neglected to feed the baby. If the couple actually kidnapped the 6 month baby, I am sure the mother would not keep quiet. She would screem, make noise and fight to have her baby back. She even abandoned the baby when it was just a few days old. Which sane mother does that?
The girl would have involved her family and police if actually her baby was held hostage. But if was after the baby died that she decided to cash in on the situation and started claiming hostage. The teenage mother just want to cash out.

mogbeyiteren:
If she insists on having custody of her sons there should be no child support

Then how will the children be fed, clothed and educated? Are you saying the children should be punished because of FFK hatred for their mother or that the children's should be without a mother at all.

oyatz:
. what you posted is unrelated to the topic under discussion.

Neither FFK nor Precious had been convicted of assault/injury to the other partner.

In the US women have the upper hand. If your wife or girlfriend just file a police report that you physically assaulted her, that alone can get you questioned by the police. If the lady has any bruise on her body even if she cause the injury herself, that can get you jail time.

The topic is about Precious having access to the children which FFK said she was never denied access to them since she ran away from her home/family

First it's not her home as FFK never married her or paid her dowry. She is simply a baby mama.
She was not denied access to her children, but in the said letter, the lawyer wrote that they will have to confer with their client before they can schedule a time for her to see her children. Is that not double speak?

Precious Chikwendu waa not well advised or was well advised but didn't heed the advice because of her mental health challenges.

And you are her psychiatrist that diagnosed her mental challenge?
Maybe you shoukd also examine FFK as there are rumours he has drug and mental challenge.

Taking her marital problems to the social media to drag the husband and seek unnecessary sympathy was a huge mistake on her part...in the end,it won't solve any problem but worsen the cases

We are in the era of social media. Everything is bared open in this era. Ask aunty Tiwa.

flokii:
If you dig deeper now, you'd find out she is into charity, rights activist, feminism and whatnot.. wicked beings.

No she most probable is a worker in a church.

Even Urhobo and Isoko were not left out

Hausa community too

Igbos in Warri paying homage

Efewestern:
Other kings have no history? Are you seriously saying this? Respect goes both ways sir, we respect your king and you should do so to others too.

Seasons greetings!

No disrespect intended. I am just pointing out that the itsekiris has a record of unbroken succession of 700 years. And yet someone is saying that that monarchy does not have a kingdom.

Olu of itsekiri is an insult, just like Sultan of Fulani or Oba of Yoruba is an insult.

I'm have problems uploading the pictures due to the size. I will have to figure out a way of reducing the size of the pictures on my phone to meet the 4mb threshold of Nairanland.

kmcutez:
Olu of North Warri or Itshekiris. Other tribes have their kings.

Other kings have no history, all of them are less than 100years. Olu of Warri has record stretching back 700 years. There are historical records with monarchies of Portugal and England.