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GEJ needs to explain to Nigerians why he ordered the police to lock up the national assembly and teargassed legislators, preventing them from doing their constitutional duties. - https://www.premiumtimesng.com/promoted/171692-photo-news-teargas-fence-jumping-police-brutality-nigerias-national-assembly.html%3famp_markup=1

If Buhari should try that today, we will be hearing shouts of revolution from PDP and it's supporters.

TheGoodJoe:
I do not get all the ranting. The point is simple. Calling for Revolution does not mean calling for violence and Sowore never called for violence whether you like it or not.

You have seen clearly he never called for violence.

If Sowore never called for violence, then how does he hope to bundle Buhari out of Aso Rock?

“I’m not talking of protest. I’m embarking on revolution. 85% of Nigerians are in support. Don’t tell me about legal implications or what a Judge will say. I don’t care. We must bundle Buhari out of that place.”

TheGoodJoe:
What you are writing here does not attribute anything to prove Sowore was advocating for violence. Read Sowore's words and tell me whether you see any hint of violence in it.

"The revolution has therefore become inevitable. We didn't choose to go for revolution, they chose it by ensuring that there was no level playing field in the last election.

Was it only in the last elections that there was no level playing field? Which election in the history of Nigeria - whether local, governorship or presidential election was there ever a level playing field? So because PDP and AAC felt they were cheated on the last elections, we should adopt an unconstutional means of changing government?

"As you know, they did it in Sudan and it was started by some women. They were making fun of them but they did not stop until doctors joined them, the labour union joined them and what started with five people became 5,000 and 500,000 and became 5,000,000 and the regime fell..." Omoyele Sowore.

Comparing a military dictatorship like Sudan and comparing a democracy like Nigeria is like comparing gote fish and obokun. The only way Al Bashir could have been removed was through a "revolution " ( that is a military coup), that is a very different scerenio in Nigeria. Buhari supposedly just won an election and had only recently been sworn in, and you want people protest to remove him. And put who exactly in power? Sowore that got less than 0.1% of the votes. You are setting the country up for a very bloody civil war. Even if Buhari is unpopular in the south east, South south and some parts of South West, he is immensely popular in the north east, North central and North East. Now if you remove him unconstutionally and put your own man, you think his millions of supporters would not plan a revolution also?

So I wonder why you people are hell bent on supporting the evil DSS for committing a crime against Sowore. It is baffling.

I am not supporting anybody, I am only supporting common sense instead of emotional rants and actions. I agree with most of Sowore's submissions, except removing a president by unconstitutional means.

TheGoodJoe:
Revolution means changing governance which Obama did. Not all revolution is violent.

You are just arguing aimlessly, clutching straws. Did Obama advocate for a "revolution" that is in conflict with the US constitution? Did the industrial revolution include a change of government (violent or peaceful )?
What kind of revolution (change of government ) is Sowore advocating for?
You guys are so ignorant it's appalling. A revolution style change of government can be a very violent affair, as no government in this world world relinquish power without a fight. The Arab Spring (revolution) had devastating effect on most Arab nations, only Algeria had it slightly better and they are not out of the woods yet. Syria and Libya are still fighting a bloody war after the so called revolution.
A revolution style change of government in black Africa world be a very violent and barbaric affair. Due to our tribal and other primordial sentiments, millions of people will be slaughtered. People like Sowore and most of our politicians have multiple citizenship and would take the next available flight (that is if they don't have private jets) out of the country. It is you and I and our families that would bear the full brunt of such a revolution.

Anduku:
Can't see what you are complaining about, All I can see is the mounted patrol arresting a serial criminal so what are you complaining about? That they didn't give the criminal a ride on their horses?

I hope you are not black, then I would understand your hatred for blacks and define you as a white supremacist.
No one is contesting whether the arrested person is a serial or one time criminal (mind you suspected), put putting him on a leash and dragging him to the police station is inhuman in the 21st century. The Galveston Police Department would never do that to a white criminal.
Even the Galveston Police Department found the picture appalling and apologised, but here we have a sadist hailing such barbaric treatment.

TheGoodJoe:
We work on who to take over next and also streamline policies to stop bad governance. The first step is to break the current evil on the corridors of power.

Do you have the wherewithals to topple a government? Do you have the arms and ammunition to face a commander in chief in control of about 60,000 soldiers over 400,000 police apart from other paramilitary forces?
How many people's lives are you ready to put on the line to topple a government through revolution?

TheGoodJoe:
We do not need to wait for the corrupt Courts to decide our fate when we can mobilise ourselves to topple poor performing governments.

Topple? That can be construed as treason.
You are advocating for a coup against the constitution.

TheGoodJoe:
" So don't let anybody deceive you that in asking for a better government or country, you are committing any illegality . The biggest illegality being committed in Nigeria as of today is the rigging of election in 2019. The moment you don't allow people to express their God-given rights to choose their leaders, you are committing an illegality and inviting resistance."... Omoyele Sowore.

That's for the courts to decide and not Sowore. Sowore is not a supreme Court judge to pronounce legality and illegality. If the courts declare Buhari's government an illegality, then Sowore can revolt, until then he can only air his personal opinion.

TheGoodJoe:
The best way to achieve this is by providing a corrupt free and Transparent Government. Demanding the resignation of Buhari will send a strong message to the next government that is no more business as usual. Then we can achieve the highlighted points.

Demanding the resignation of a person who supposedly won a general elections barely 5 months ago? OK resign for who to take over, Sowore?

WORLDPEACE:
He is taking a better Nigeria back

How will be taken Nigeria back,?
Does he want to be declared president without winning elections?

A Nigeria where younger people were leading us.

Are there restrictions that prevents young people from leading us? We have young legislators and some in executive positions, how have they been leading us? Senator abbo is the youngest Senator in the Senate, how has he been leading us?
Do you expect Nigeria just hand over leadership positions to younger people, without them working for it?

A Nigeria where undergraduates were fed by government in school

Feed undergraduates of over 500,000 students? If we add polytechnics and colleges of education, the number of tertiary students would be over a million. Now where will the government get the money to feed a million students, daily. Sowore and supporters are still living in the 70s when the number of students in tertiary institutions were less than 20,000.
What of primary school and secondary school students, should they not be fed also?

A Nigeria where graduates got employment immediately after graduating.

Nigeria is estimated to produce close to 500,000 graduates every year - https://www.google.com/amp/s/qz.com/africa/603967/about-half-of-the-university-graduates-in-nigeria-cannot-find-jobs/amp/
Now how and where will government hire all these graduates? The problem is our educational curriculum that promotes the seeking of jobs instead of the creation of jobs.

A Nigeria where the naira had more value than the dollars

This is determined by economic dynamics - exports and imports.

Sowore was born in 1971 and he met this Nigeria

So he is leading us to take that Nigeria back.

Support the movement

Support AAC

Once again how? Does AAC want to take over the government through a coup?

Naijageak:
For NANS to come and say this officially then nothing good can be said to come from them because they are seeking for relevance

Sorry to say but NANS is right. It is illegal to change government through a revolution. The constitution provides for how government can change and revolution is not one of them.
Does PDP want to take over government through a revolution?

What exactly is Sowore and his gang protesting about. Are they protesting for a particular cause or they want an overthrow of the present government by unconstitutional means?

Ikenna0b:
Are you fucking kidding me? . I would keep on saying it you are HIGHLY INCOMPETENT of what you speak hence, you pathetically make a mockery of yourself.

First, I know a high number about IPOB and what they suscribr to due to my cousin is one of their directors in Asaba thus, dum dum logic would tell you I discuss about this shit with my cousin each time I communicate with him. Logic would equally tell you he educate me on it.

Now in regards to the bullshit you just posted, if you ACTUALLY know anything about the group you obsess over like a $2 LovePeddler you would have known that Radio Biafra does have a Twitter page and they communicate ONLY through Nnamdi Kanu Twitter and occasionally deputies Twitter. Their avenue of communicating in social media is Facebook. Re-Ipob or Tri-ipob or whatever nonsense that fake group your shithole government created are the ones with a Twitter page. Secondly, biafrantimes does not belong to IPOB. It belongs to re-Ipob/Tri-ipob or whatever nonsense their name is hence, although they post as legit ipob articles, most they copied from the actual ipob website, several of their article made by biafratimes, alot of it is in mockery of what ipob stands for. In addition, although they linked to actual ipob pages on their webpage, it links to a deadend. Additionally, Nnamdi Kanu is the one that's the interviewer on RB, not the other way around. Shit, the name of the so called interviewer, OWEI KEME BRADIKUMO, already points to exactly which ipob page belongs to and where the article came from. PATHETIC! Obsessed over a group yet highly UNEDUCATED about the group. SMFH!!!

You are, in my opinion, the most Pathetic person on this forum. I went through your past posts and since this your account was created, your comments is on flat out Biafran topics only..... PATHETIC!!!!! Attention seeking whoring like a motherfucker. Worst, you're actually EXTREMELY Ignorant and uneducated on what it is you prostitute over for.... PITIFUL!!! Nigga, find something better to do with the miserable thing you call a life. If you still want to attention seek on Biafran topic like a cheap $2 ashawo then EDUCATE yourself instead of displaying your ignorance thus, making you look more pathetic and shameless. Tufiakwa!

All these annoyance and insults, just because we in delta central and South, reject the "forceful" coercion into biafra?
Do you expect us to follow IPOB on Twitter, Facebook and other social media outlets? Do you expect non IPOB members to know the intricacies and politics of IPOB and know how IPOB disseminates info to their members and the outside world? Why can't Kanu and his official IPOB media outlets categorically deny that they have never included Delta Central and South in their Biafra and not the forced referendum we have been hearing. The minute Kanu does that, I swear you will never hear Itsekiri, Isoko, urhobo or any other non igbo deltan discuss biafra again.

All our youths and elders have dissociated themselves from biafra, why is it difficult for Kanu and IPOB to also dissociate us from biafra? Why is it that all we get from you guys is insults, when we say we are not part of biafra?

OMANBALA1:
It will be printed boldly on a piece of documents that will be signed by the confederate states in SS...Is this good enough for you?

What will be printed boldly on a piece of document and by who?

You dont get it...there is a very serious political calculations going on but you are too emotional to see that. Your hate for the Igbo wont let you think...Its sad.

That's your political calculations not ours. For the umpteenth time, you cannot impose your political calculations on people who are not interested. You discuss and try to convince others first and not by force or fire.
So because we are too emotional and not interested in your political calculations, that translate to hate?

The goal is for us to fight together get our freedom and go our separate ways and remain good business partners.

We don't trust you guys to let go once we succeed together. We know what we suffered from this forced togetherness during the civil war, and how we had to support the Hausa led Federal government to liberate ourselves.

OMANBALA1:
But no Igbo man alive want a country with Edo and their likes like Itshekiri,Bini,Esan, Uhrobo and Ijaw ....we just want good neighbors and I dont think thats too much to ask. After all, you are all yoruboid...make everybody enter him papa hut. We prefer Akwa-Cross depending on their position...we just want good neighbours,period for our business to thrive....but I advice them to for thier own country and Ijaw,Ikwerre but Enuani are our brothers. You can take Agbor.
Personally, I want an all Igbo nation!!! EOD

Is Kanu and his IPOB crew not igbo men alive? They can never mention Biafra without mentioning Itsekiri, Urhobo, ijaw and the whole south south and even including Benue.
The only reason you see these tribes ever discussing Biafra at all, is that everyday we see our tribes being associated with Biafra.

FuckThaMod:
Patiently waiting for an original ss person to reply this statement.. The same ss that bears igbo names prefer yoruba? Nothing wey man no go here for this nairaland, maybe you are drunk

I am an original SS person, an Itsekiri in fact. If it comes to a choice between going with Yorubas and going with igbos, Itsekiris, Urhobos, the Binis, and even western ijaws, would prefer to go with the Yorubas.

Is it the whole of the SS that bears Igbo names? How many Itsekiris, Urhobos, Binis, and ijaws do you know that bears Igbo names?

pinkPUSSY:
Out of your desperation to do what you are known for you had to type this bullcrap more than 3 times instead of facing the topic at hand.

SS hate south East then love our Muslim skulls.
Even Igbo in SS extractions don't like Igbos from SE extraction but love our Yoruba Muslim skulls.

Oyigbo people of Rivers State that fell into Rivers State due to boundary adjustments in 70's have automatically hate their brothers in SE because they are no more part of IMO state then love our Yoruba Muslim skull ?
I am sure if an adjustment is made today in Abia or Akwa Ibom they will turn around and they hate each other and love our yoru Muslim skull.



If I were you (God forbids), I would find a way to unite my brothers who are slugging it out and dividing themselves because of religion rather than commenting on something that is beyond your brain capacity

Yoruba Muslims Vs Yoruba Christians
Yoruba Muslims Vs Yoruba Traditionalist
Ekiti Christians Vs Muric.
Ife Vs Modakeke

The earlier you knw that SS is a multi ethnic region the better for you ...Empty skull

So just because there are Igbos of SS extraction, that gives you the right to claim the whole south south?

Because there is Oyigbo people in Rivers State, means you can speak on behalf of the whole south south?

Because you want to unite your brothers means you want to unite yourself by force with the brothers of others?

Why is it difficult for you to say " south east and igbos in the south south"? Why do you always have to tie non igbos to any thing you are doing.

Who gives you the right and audacity to threaten other people on behalf of the whole of the South South tribes? You are causing more animosity for igbos in the south south.

That's works out to about N15.4 million to refurbish each car (looks like Toyota Camry 2015 model).
So how much is a brand new car?

"I'd like to see them call me," Trump said of the Iranians in the White House on Thursday.

Arrogance of the highest order. Did Trump call them before the unilaterally pull out of an already signed agreement involving 5 other nations?

What guarantee will the Iranian have that whatever they agreed upon, the next government will not unilaterally pull out out, or even Trump change his mind and pull out himself?

I don't see how the Iranians or any other nation including North Korea can ever trust any signed agreement with the US again.

Iamklade:
Mr man,
Why didn't he tender it since 2015 that everyone has been arguing back and forth about his certificates why is he just tendering it now or were the results not in existence before now or did he just wake up now to remember that result sheets for that year exist with Cambridge University.....minister for communication oyaa answer oga wey sabi defend.

It was tendered in 2015, and it was all over the internet. But you guys are so tone deaf to anything buhari presents. You guys are so obsessed with anything buhari being fake, you even went to ridiculous heights by claiming buhari himself is fake.

During the height of the certificate saga before the 2015 elections, Buhari's secondary school presented a statement of result based on a printed of the WASC Cambridge result printed out. You guys screamed fake because a passport photo of Buhari in 2015 was used instead of a 1959 photo in uniform. The certified true copy of the Cambridge result had been on the Internet since 2015, you guys still shouted fake, and that unless Cambridge officially comes out and say Buhari's result is authentic, you guys won't accept. You guys have thrown all sorts of tantrums, you claimed the Cambridge result is fake because hausa language was not offered in 1959. Cambridge have since debunked that claim and that native languages were indeed offered in 1959.

creolehunt:
I'm sorry. There's nothing like 'Delta Igbo'. If you're Igbo, then you're Igbo. It doesn't matter which state you're from. Boundaries are artificial lines.

Do we also have Anambra Igbo, Enugu Igbo?

One mistake you guys do is that you cannot tell another person what to label themselves. If some people decide to call themselves delta igbo or riverine yoruba, you have no right to tell them they cannot.

Some jews refer to themselves as Ashkenazim jews, Georgian Jews, Indian Jews, Ethiopian jews, etc and no other Jewish group complains, but you guys get angry when Igbos in delta call themselves delta Igbo.

Ekinematics:
Until you want to run for a public post in your mother's place that's when you'll know that constitution stands for nothing, but the practice of the people.

Is practically impossible to win unless you are the richest man from that village.

Most Riverine pepole in Nigeria do what you are saying not just Itsekiris, but try to run for a political post then you'll understand that you belong to where your father comes from unless you have money to buy your way.

Believe me, this applies mainly in the East. In my area, as long as you have have native name, speak the language, abide by the culture and people know your mother, people will vote for you. It will surprise you that lots of people claiming itsekiri including our politicians have only their mother as itsekiri, sometimes only their grandmothers, but they are ultra itsekiri nationalists.
Same with Yoruba, as long as you answer yoruba names and identify with a Yoruba family, you can be elected to any political office, ie Tinubu.

Ekinematics:
Don't tell me shit. We run patrilineal stuff in Naija and where ever your dad's from that's where you are from.

Mike might have chosen to be Nigerian to become relevant but deep down he's not.

In Nigeria if your dad is from Ebonyi and you were born in Sokoto, you are damn from Ebonyi.

False! According to Nigerian law, a person can claim citizenship through the mother or father.

We the itsekiris accept people born of itsekiri mothers irrespective of were the father is from.

crackhouse:
he doesn't have original so he have to claim that he lost it and now he's presenting a CTC because he's the president. Can u present CTC in this country if u are requested to bring your certificate for screening and it will be accepted?

This is someone that sat for University of Cambridge organised WASSC exams in 1959, are you surprised the certificate is lost? How many people that sat for WASSC exams 50years ago still have their certificate intact?
It is not strange for someone who has lost a certificate, any certificate, whether academic or even company registration certificate to go back to the issuing authority to obtain a certified true copy. The certified True Copy is accepted around the world as the original certificate. Even the original certificate is useless without confirmation from the issuing authority. You WAEC certificate is confirmed by universities during the course of your studies. I knew people in my university days that were expelled because they presented fake certificates. Oluwole was famed for forging university certificates.
Buhari has presented a certified true copy (CTC) of the Confidential result sheet of University of Cambridge , the document can be verified with University of Cambridge.

crackhouse:
CTC? What of the original?

You are seeing a certified true copy of a document and you are still asking for the original? Nah wa o, Nigeria's educational system is in shambles.

Kabir2Mohammad:
Lol.... But PMB initially said his certificate was in military custody

Go back to school to learn what certified true copy (CTC)
means.

kokaneprodigy:
Democrats are petty, they act like women bitching over everything while Republicans act like men.

But the reverse was the case when Obama was president. Republicans were then bitching over everything, while Democrats were acting like men.

Shekochild:
You're just confusing yourself, man. And the fact that you are a fellow geologists makes me wonder what school you attend.... Since you can't identify an adjective for what it is. If "middle" is an adjective to "East", then check the map you will see it in the middle. Hence, the term middle east. How then, as a geology student that you are, can you justify the term "North central" ? Middle east and North central are not the same. The former can be justify both semantically and english wise. But the the later is illogical, grammatically and semantically wrong.

Since you are an in English perfectionist and you accept Middle East is valid, should we then refer to north central as central north? If middle East is valid, then cental north is also valid.

AreaFada2:
This is not correct. You probably were not old enough to witness or remember it.

We imported "Shagari rice" but we didn't have to beg. Countries happily shift their product to buyers. We had oil to pay back. Why beg? Though oil prices went down a bit that period, Americans knew prices fluctuate. Coming from oil boom of early to mid 1970s, we had less cash. Nigeria also now had more recurrent expenditure during democracy then too. We still need to cut cost of governance today.

We probably allowed too much import even. Even today despite banning lots of things, they come through Seme, only to cost more to buy in the market.

As of 1983, many people in rural areas still grew subsistence rice just like cassava or yam. I knew many communities where imported rice were frowned upon then. Rather, Ofada & Ekpoma rice were very popular. I certainly preferred local rice as a kid.

Look, as for democracy, until 1999 till now democracy never had time to thrive. 1959 to 1966 was not a long time. Also 1979 to 1983 wasn't long. First & Second Republics were too short. Still, UPN introduced free education in States they controlled in 1979. The predecessor, AG, did same in colonial SW. You cannot imagine how it gave SW educational advantage till today.

IBB and Abacha's military regimes were super corrupt. The worst by far. A bridge built or some road or infrastructure done by individual governors with some decency cannot atone for it.

Remember it was Okotie-Eboh (Tafawa Balewa's Finance Commissioner/Minister) who brought Julius Berger to Nigeria. And began building Eko Bridge in 1965. It was a civilian govt. That was the second Bridge after Carter Bridge built in 1901. Despite Okotie-Eboh's alleged corruption then o.

Democracy is a less evil form of govt. It can work and gradually correct itself if allowed to evolve. It evolves even quicker in places where people are not too docile. Our docility has allowed political mediocrity to fester since 1999.

Even though I agree with most of your submissions, I am yet to be convinced on democracy being the best or even less evil form of government. Democracy is good for for wealthy nations with highly enlightened population, but could be disastrous for poor countries with large illiterate population. It is too funking expensive to run, and it assumes the masses are literate enough to make informed decisions. Nigeria spends more running their government than China with a population of over 10 times that of Nigeria. People vote for sentimental reasons like tribe, religion, bribes it's out turn, etc, rather that altruistic reasons.

Soso990240:
Because d Corrupt politicians have polluted the senior military officers. Just as d senior officers now are into embezzlement of funds for military equipments. Danjuma is not saying d whole truth. Majority of d People dat took part in d 1966 coup are young Northern Soldiers, led by Kaduna Nzeogwu( an Igbo). Nzeogwu grew up in d North, he had many Northerners as friends in d military. So it was easy to convince them of the need for d coup. I got this details from 3 different account.

And the corruption polluted only officers from other tribes, but Igbo officers were unaffected by the pollution?
Brig. Samuel Ademulegun, Brig. Zakariya Maimalari, Col. Ralph Shodeinde, Col. Kur Mohammed, Col. Abogo Largema, Lt. Col. James Pam and other officers embezzled funds for military equipments, while General Ironsi, col. Ojukwu and other senior Igbo officers were saints.
In the coup speech, there was no mention of corruption military officers, it was only politicians that was mentioned.
In all the reports and articles I had read, I had never heard the coup January 66 plotters accusing their collages of corruption.

Kennedyiheme:
what has yoruba people done...? You're saying we didn't invent tanks.. ok great we didnt but we made them ourselves.. attempted to make a fighter jet... when you yoruba cowards do nothing... no wonder babangida said when a yoruba man makes noise he just goes back to sleep.. don't worry fulani will soon clear you people and take over your lands..

No be only attempt to make fighter jet, biafrans attempted to make nuclear submarines and hydrogen bomb.

Techsunny:
Such evil acted against ndi Igbo could nt stop them remain a head of all tribes in Nigeria. Obasanjo eyes open on friday.How many successfully archived greatness in north and south west today? Federal goverment asisted looters> Dangote, otedola, adenuga, 15 out of 1000 igbo billionires surpass them all.

Considering your population and achievements, you are not ahead of other tribes in Nigeria, but if that's what make you sleep well at night, keep believing it.