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4evergod3:Gosh, you people are so insecure that you grasp onto any straw to keep your ego afloat. What damage control? What damage has Mark Zukerberg of his statement done to any atheist or even theist (except a few Nairaland christians). I did not know of even care if Mark Zukerberg is an atheist or not, i was an atheist even before mark zukerberg was born, so what are you talking about. You guys really need to see a shrink. You need to give purpose to your life other that hyperventilate at the sight of the word atheist. |
hahn:This is something that is very difficult for christians to grasp, that people do not become atheists because of proselytizing of other atheists. Atheism is a personal journey of self discovery, it is not a sudden spiritual event like being born again, it sometimes takes years to come to the realization that God is of no use in your life. Mark Zukerberg is on his own personal journey of self realization, wherever he ends up is his own cup of coffee. |
Na wa o. Why is Nairaland's Christian community so ecstatic about what Mark Zukerberg believes or not. Mark Zukerberg was never some sort of Atheist leader or guru, he does not have an atheist movement that he promotes, so i do not see how his one line sentence on his view on religion affects both atheists and theists the world over. This is the statement that have gotten Christians excited here; MZ: No. I was raised jewish and then I went through a period where I questioned things, but now I believe religion is very important.He never said anything about being a christian, he never even said he believed in any God, he only said he was raised a jew now believes religion is very important, he never said what type of religion he now believes in, and to whom is it important to, whether to himself personally, to his family or to the society at large. I for one identify myself as an atheist but i also thing religion is very important, not the viscous and vitriolic type of religion exhibited by Nigerian Christians and muslims, but religion as a personal affair on how one achieve harmony with oneself and the universe as a whole. Atheism is as varied as the leaves on a tree, no two atheists have identical set of beliefs, the only common denominator of atheism is in the lack of belief in any God as promoted by different societies throughout human history. If you do not believe in any God, to me you are an atheist. So Christians are alright and happy with Buddhists, Muslims, hindus, Ifa worshipers or even devil worshipers, it seems that the only people they have a morbid hatred for are atheists This response by Nairalands christians show that they are very insecure and afraid of atheists |
Because their creator told them to destroy all idols and graven images made by infidels and kill the infidels too. Most Christians seem to agree that you cannot question your maker. Here is a quote by splinz and supported by most Christians; Splinz: |
Blue3k:Technical education is useless without a science education base. Technology is the application of science. Our main problem is that our education lacks a science base. Most science students in our secondary schools or even tertiary institutions do not understand basic scientific principles, they are trained to only pass exams, no practical knowledge. They do not understand practical applications of the gas laws, newton's laws, Bohr's laws, etc, and you want these students to graduate from universities and produce technological items. |
admax:Ibori might not be qualified to run for senate due to section1 subsection 66 of the Nigerian constitution; 66 |
Cromagnon:I have agreed with most of your postulations so far, but I vehemently disagree with the above. The problem mitigating against our industrialization has little to do with capital. It has a lot to do with capacity and manpower. We lack the high level manpower both technologically and managerially to initiate industrialization. I have a friend who is an investment consultant in london, he contacted me and told me that he has Chinese investors who are ready to invest $20 billion in Nigeria, but they were yet to find suitable partners that is apart from the problem of insecurity. Like in business, the reason for business failures is usually not lack of capital, but lack of innovation. I know many people who became billionaires by introducing innovative ideas. Money always follows profitable innovative ideas. |
Cromagnon:How did the Oniru family prove they owned half of Iruland (Victoria Island) before the land use act? You do not need a c of o to know who owns which land. Most lands in Ikorodu does not have c of o and yet we know which family owns which lands. The lands seized by the FG in 1978 is being won back by the families that owned the lands before the enactment of the land use act. How did your forefathers acquire the land. By force or by mouth.Ancestral land ownership is usually acquired by being the first to settle in a land, through forceful acquisition by war or through outright contractual agreements. Can they challenge govt guns.That was why I called it colonization. The lands were forcefully acquired through threats of guns. Communism is govt control from far place that have no idea what's going on at local level.You have the wrong concept of communism. Communism is control of resources by the state or some other central authority. It could be local or national. It does not allow private ownership of land, capital or resources. |
Cromagnon:The man will have to prove that his ancestors own all the lands before the land use act was enacted or before colonization. One person cannot just come and claim land in a community that does not belong to him, every one knows which family owns with lands. Conflicts of land ownerships within families in a community are settled by traditional authorities. Ancestral land ownership is the bedrock of societies. It is absurd to say that lands my father and fore fathers inherited from my ancestors now belongs to the rest of society. That is communism and we know communism does not work. |
Cromagnon:Why should farmers pay for their ancestral lands? A land inherited from their fathers and fore fathers, you are saying they should pay for it, to outsiders in state capitals, who has no interest in the land except for exploitative purposes. Sounds like internal colonization. |
MakeADifference:Your story is misleading and so your conclusion is also misleading. At the end you did nothing to dispel the accusation of Churches (Nigerian) being ponzi schemes. All those christian institutions you said you benefited from are not recognized as " Nigerian Churches". The typical definition of Nigerian churches are Pentecostal, prosperity preaching, demon casting, tongue speaking and most importantly, tithe emphasizing church, owned by one man, living extravagant life and who has been raised to a status of an infallible god. Name one Nigerian church that provide the sort of free or cheap services you enjoyed ie hospitals, schools, etc. Nigerian churches give very little to the youth. In fact they exploit the youth for tithes and offerings and their energy. I have seen youths walking the streets, distributing tracts, selling books and evangelizing for various churches without getting paid one naira. The amount of time nigerian youths waste for church activities would have been better put to use to improving their lives |
Hanaway:Do not mind them, their God Yahweh or is it Jesus is really an egocentric, insecure and incompetent character. All he wants is praise and ego massaging, his sole reason to exist is to be praised. His incompetence is legendary, he made heaven and its angels, due to his dictatorial and narcissistic tendencies, half of his angels rebelled against him, which lead to a civil war in heaven. He succeeded in driving them out of heaven. Then he created man and later regretted creating man and so decided to violently distroy man ( along with all other animals that had nothing to do with Man's sins) except one family and a couple of all animals . The descendants of that one family created more problems by sinning over and over again. He got so frustrated at man that he sent his only begotten to be sacrificed as an appeasement to him, in order to forgive man his sins. There was no peace in heaven, there was no peace in Eden, there is no peace on earth now, what guarantee is there that there would be peace in heaven again after the rupture? |
DoctorAlien:And you think you are full of understanding? Religion truly gives the ignorant a false sense of wisdom. |
DoctorAlien:Tell that lie to the hundreds that died at reigners church in Uyo last week, tell that to the hundreds that died at the collapsed synagogue church building last year. Millions of Christians face tragedies daily just like any other group of people. No christian has an assurance of heaven, even the Bible says "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven" |
oaroloye:You read a few web pages and immediately concluded that rev. King was set up. You must have what I call conspiracy theory disorder. You see conspiracy in plain obvious events. Most Nigerians have followed the rev. King saga from inception. About 5 judges of the appeal court and about 7 justices of the supreme court unanimously agreed that rev. King commuted the crimes he was accused of, that is apart from the federal high court judge that sentenced him. A film featuring osuofia (Nkem owoh) has even been made of the whole episode. And you after reading a few web pages is screaming conspiracy. Read more about the case. - http://www.religionnewsblog.com/17132/emeke-king-to-be-hanged Eleven witnesses ( members of King's church), who were witnesses, some with burns testified against rev king. Evidences and exhibits were produced. So I do not know where you get the idea of conspiracy from. Rev king is too small for government or the Catholic church to notice, he has only one branch with less than 2,000 followers. So nobody knew him until the murder trial. |
Omudia11:What of hand action or is it hand job ( mastur.bation by a spouse), anal or even French kiss, are these allowed in Christianity? |
oaroloye:Are you joking? A case that went through the high court, appeal court and supreme court is what you are referring to as false accusation. Are you in Nigeria? If you were you will know the details of the case. The people that were doused with petrol testified against him, one was partially burnt. The lady that died testified against him in her hospital bed on camera before she died. And here you are forming Sherlock Holmes when even his lawyers have not come out to denounce the judgements. I am sure that Rev King would attain divine status if he is killed, just like Jesus. His supporters would promote the idea that he was killed unjustly for saying the truth and that he really did not die, but would continue to protect his followers. Who know maybe after a few decades books might be written about with so much embellishments that he will attain Godlike status. |
waldigit:You seem to be missing what this whole thread is about. Why do we have to be close to our heavenly father, pray, fast, praise and pay tithes and offerings to his priests before he listens to us and gives us what we need? Meanwhile, our earthly father will feed, cloth, protect us and pay our school fees, even if we disobey him, fail to praise or worship him and even be rebellions against him. |
I am sorry to say that there is nothing you can do for your friend. Your friend has been completely brainwashed by T.B. Joshua. Modern Christianity thrives on using brainwashing techniques to turn their members into mental and psychological slaves. They can only be free after some major psychological or mental shock or trauma that can reset their brains to default. In the alternative you can also learn the same brainwashing techniques employed by T B Joshua and co, and brainwash him in the opposite direction. Read this article to have an idea of how brain washing techniques work; http://theunboundedspirit.com/how-they-manipulate-your-mind-thought-control-persuasion-and-brainwashing-techniques/ So, to begin, I want to share a basic fact about brainwashing: IN THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF MAN, NO ONE HAS EVER BEEN BRAINWASHED AND REALIZED, OR BELIEVED, THAT HE HAD BEEN BRAINWASHED . Those who have been brainwashed will usually passionately defend their manipulators, claiming they have simply been “shown the light” … or have been transformed in miraculous ways.The highlighted quote is germane to what we are discussing. A brainwashed person would defend his brainwasher till death. |
I am sometimes amazed at how dishonest some Christians can be, you tell bare faced lies just to denegrate others who do not share your religious views. A conflict that started way before Plutarco Elías Calles got into power is now be being attributed to him, under a very dubious heading of "atheist president of Mexico who killed 400 priests in just 4 years". First there is no evidence Calles was an atheist and no evidence the priests were kill to promote atheism or fulfil atheist obligations. Secondly, the conflict was strictly a political struggle between the catholic church and the state which started with the promulgation of the liberal constitution in 1857 which attempted to oust the power of the Catholic church in state affairs. This lead to the Mexican revolution between 1910 - 1920. When Calles took over power in 1924, Mexico was on the verge of a civil war between the catholics and the government, and a civil war actually broke out two years after he took power, and you think it think 4000 catholic priests would not be killed during the civil war? Do you have an idea of how many government soldiers and supporters that were killed during the same period? And you are maliciously blaming atheists for killing priests. Nothing surprises from dishonest Christians like the OP, they even claim Hitler, a baptised catholic who never renounced the religion, an atheists and so come out with very stupendous headings like atheists murdered hundreds of million during the second word war. |
As I said to debunk all the bullshit the OP is propagating would not only take time, it would take volumes of thesis. I am having insomnia tonight so I have some time to waste. Now let me take on scientific misconception being promoted by pseudoscientists like the OP; This is the law of cause and effect.This is not so correct. What lay men generally refer to as causation or cause and effect is newton's second law, which deals with conservation of momentum. These break down on both the quantum and relativistic levels. On the quantum level you can have a effect without a cause and vice versa. Till today, nobody knows the cause of why particular atoms of radioactive materials decay. What causes it to disintegrate? Nobody knows? What is known is that a half of the total number will disintegrate in a certain time. Read this for more info; Cause and effect went out of favor as a cornerstone of science about the time quantum mechanics was developed. Quantum mechanics is non-deterministic with events occurring randomly. Within the context of quantum mechanics, there is no reason or cause for an atom to decay at one time and not at another. The rise of quantum mechanics and the decline in the prominence of cause and effect are probably indeed cause and effect. However, even outside quantum mechanics there are problems with cause and effect. Much of physics, as Russell observed, does not explicitly use cause and effect. The equations work equally well forwards or backwards, deriving the past from present as much as the future from the past. Indeed, the equations of physics can even propagate spatially sideways rather than temporally forwards or backwards.Also read up on virtual particles, they pop in and out of existence without any known reason or cause; Virtual particles are subatomic particles that form out of "nothing" (vacuum fields conceptually analogous to lines of force between magnetic poles) for extremely short periods of time and then disappear again. Such particles permeate space, mediate particle decay, and mediate the exchange of the fundamental forces (electromagnetic, weak, strong, and—in accord with quantum theory—gravititational forces). Virtual particles are real and have measurable effects, but the same uncertainty principle that allows them to come into existence dictates that they cannot be directly observed. |
damogul:Arguing with you guys is like arguing with someone with acute Alzheimer's disease. You seem to forget the subject of discussion or even the last point you raised, and then go off on a tangent bringing in other unrelated arguments. This is what you said a few posts ago; Evolution is a farce and a big lie.you have been attacking the very concept of evolution all through your arguments, now you are asking if nairaland evolved by itself. If you agree that evolution is a fact of life and indeed the universe, then we can start a new debate on factors or forces responsible for evolution - whether random chance or intelligent design. |
damogul:Believe me, I do not have the time to argue senselessly with the op, I am a very busy person. The OP has no clue on what he is arguing on, his primary aim is to attack anything evolution and promote his religious beliefs. He hate the very word evolution. How can any rational human reject anything evolution? Evolution simply means change. Everything evolves or changes with time. Nothing can remain static for ever. Even the Biblical God has evolved over time. The God that created Adam and Eve, that they were hiding from after eating the fruit is different from the God at mount Sinai that visited the Israelites, and is different from Jesus who is now the God of Christians. Languages evolves, the English spoken during the time king James wrote the king James version of the bible is different from the English spoken today, same for Arabic spoken during Mohammed's time and now. Telephones have evolved and will continue to evolve. Even nairaland has evolved. The appearance of nairaland today is different from nairaland of 5 years ago. EVERY THING EVOLVES. The material universe started out with only a proton or hydrogen, today that hydrogen has evolved into more complex matter up to uranium. You people want to promote an unchanging and static universe. That is absurd. |
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jahsharon:My brother I tire for this form of madness o. The committee also frowned on the inability of the Minister of Finance, Mrs. Kemi Adeosun, to attend the hearing and ordered that she must attend today’s hearing by all means, particularly as her predecessor was involved in the issue .So because her predecessor was involved in the issue, she should face trial and punishment for any crime that her predecessor is alleged to have committed. |
mayorchelsea:Do not mind PDP and its allies ( IPOB, NDA, etc), when Jonathan was using police to intimidate Governors that disagreed with him, intimidating the national assembly by locking up the gates of the national assembly complex, rigging elections in ekiti, they were cheerleading then. Now that what goes around has come around, they are screaming blue murder. Policing and security us an executive function in a democracy, it can never be handed over to the legislature. |
Exercise in futility. A bill cannot wrest control of the police from the FG and hence the president, to do that will require constitutional amendment. The president as the commander in chief of the armed forces has control over all the armed forces, including the police. |
Until this is ensured, there are likely to be many more Jammehs in Africa than anyone can imagine.Useless article. Until African presidents learn to conceded defeat in free and fair elections, there will be many more Gbagbos in Africa. So you are saying that Africans presidents should remain in power until they die, and probably hand over to their sons because of fear of persecution if he hands over power to another person. Jemmeh better leave power by January or he will become another Gbagbo. |
billyG:That is the mystery of the whole probe, why invite Kemi Adeosun and not Okonjo Iweala, who was not only the minister of finance but also the coordinating minster of the economy during the period under probe. |
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That the creator decides to do with His own creation (children of disobedience) the way He likes and it becomes an issue?