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Christianity EtcRe: Why Do We Have Laws Governing An Uncaused Universe by wirinet(m): 12:22am On Nov 13, 2016
DoctorAlien:
Good. At least, you've taken one step out of delusion. The Universe was created, and didn't pop out of nothing.

True, too, you don't know Who created the universe. One day, you will know Him.
Why are you so fixated with who and him? You are so delusional that you cannot understand that a Jewish man with a big diick cannot create the universe.
You, the earth, the solar system and even the milky way galaxy is infinitesimal as far as the universe is concerned.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do We Have Laws Governing An Uncaused Universe by wirinet(m): 12:16am On Nov 13, 2016
DoctorAlien:
Prove that this is what happened.
Prove what? That galaxies, stars and planets were created from gas nebulae?
I hope you are not as ignorant as you sound.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do We Have Laws Governing An Uncaused Universe by wirinet(m): 11:36pm On Nov 12, 2016
peacesamuel94:
So going by the atheist's logic, the universe was uncaused, The world and everything within it, came by co-incidence. hence there is no tangible reason for our existence.
Yep, there is no tangible reason for our existence except to continue to exist ( survival) and ensure our continued existence as an individual, family, specie and life as a whole.
So My question is, who created the scientific laws and principles governing the earth?
How did an uncaused physical entity set up rules to govern all that goes on within it.
The question is not who but what. You are made to believe by your colonizers that the universe was created by a Hebrew speaking Jewish man. That is preposterous. Nobody knows the forced responsible for the creation of the universe.
If the world came accidentally, why does the organization within it,
seem to contradict it's accidental origin?
The world, that is our solar system with all its planets including the earth came about probability. There was enough gas and dust from other star explosions to start what is called accretion. This gas accretion lead to the creation of the sun, the earth and everything else in our solar system. Then the earth after a while after the formation of the solar system had the right conditions to support life.
The universe is a very chaotic place. There are only semblance of order in isolated areas, especially when veiwed within short time frames.
Christianity EtcRe: Who Is The GOD Of The Old Testament? by wirinet(m):
DoctorAlien:
If the sign was for King Ahab alone:

1. Has it been fulfilled?

2. Which baby fulfilled it?

3. Which virgin conceived?

4. Was the Baby called Immanuel?

5. If the Baby was called Immanuel, where was that?

Did you also note that Ahaz never asked a sign of the LORD? And that when the LORD was about to speak the sign, He said "Hear now, O House of David"?
This is the exact verses you are referring to;

10 Moreover the LORD spake again unto Ahaz, saying,
11 Ask thee a sign of the LORD thy God; ask it either in the depth, or in the height above.
12 But Ahaz said, I will not ask, neither will I tempt the LORD.
13 And he said, Hear ye now, O house of David; Is it a small thing for you to weary men, but will ye weary my God also?
14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
15 Butter and honey shall he eat, that he may know to refuse the evil, and choose the good.
16 For before the child shall know to refuse the evil, and choose the good, the land that thou abhorrest shall be forsaken of both her kings.
17 The LORD shall bring upon thee, and upon thy people, and upon thy father's house, days that have not come, from the day that Ephraim departed from Judah; even the king of Assyria.
Please can you explain how you relate this promise made to ahaz to jesus?
Was Jesus named Immanuel? From what we know, he was not named even Jesus. He was said to have been named Joshua.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Homosexuality Wrong? by wirinet(m): 4:50pm On Nov 11, 2016
DoctorAlien:
Still not making any meaningful point.

So the ratio of the brain size of the animal to its body size now indicates intelligence? How intelligent are you and how intelligent is a dog?

By what yardstick did you classify the dog as not smart as you are?

How did you know that some animals have sex with opposite gender just for pleasure?

Edited: And how can you be sure that the acts you see between dogs are homosexual, since they are not as smart as you are?
Please what kind of Doctor are you? Probably a doctor of theology. You mean to tell us that you do not know the intelligence of a specie directly correlate to its brain to body ratio? Amazing.
We are smarter than dog because of our bigger brains. That is the reason dogs cans solve differential equations. I doubt you too can solve differential equations.

Having sex for pleasure is hard wired into our brains, it is especially worse for a biitch (pun intended). A female dog can have sex with several males within a very short period.
Christianity EtcRe: Who Is The GOD Of The Old Testament? by wirinet(m): 4:39pm On Nov 11, 2016
sonmvayina:
the old testament has got nothing to do with the new testament....they are basically 2 different religions. and ideologies..it is explicitly stated in the old testament time and time again.. ''God is not a man''...and had no intention of making a woman pregnant to bear a son or child. the first commandment specifically warned them not to serve any other God beside this particular God that choose the Jews ( Deuteronomy 32:7) ..he choose them, they where his people and he was their God..they Jews knew they were other Gods but only worship this particular God. to worship another was punishable by death and to worship a man was a big idolatry to the Jews, this particular God warned them not to make any idol of him.the Romans where surprised that when they got to the temple in Jerusalem, they did not find any..they only stole their writ tings( law and prophets)

Christianity on the other hand is the cult of Inana and her beloved Dimuzi or Tammuz, which originated from Babylon, they stole the Jewish writings and super glued their '' Confra'' manual to the Tanaka...to discourage the Jews from waiting for the messiah..
That is food for thought. If the 21st 2nd and 3rd commandments states;
- You shall have no other gods before me.

- You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below.
- You shall not bow down to them or worship them;
Why then do the christians add two other Gods to Yahweh to make 3. Why do the christians add a jewish man - Jesus and a holy spirit to the Jewish God to make three Gods in one.

If God wanted to equate others to himself, he would have said so in the commandment given to moses.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Homosexuality Wrong? by wirinet(m): 4:17pm On Nov 11, 2016
felixomor:
Just rest.
cool
I dont think u understand the question and even my position.
Please explain further so i can understand your position.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Homosexuality Wrong? by wirinet(m): 4:04pm On Nov 11, 2016
felixomor:
Just try to answer the question.
Its straight forward enough.
As i said, homosexual sex is incapable of producing children. So what?

Some people swear an oath of celibracy, now can a celebrate have children? Will you be here if your father or mother decided to be celebrate?
Christianity EtcRe: Is Homosexuality Wrong? by wirinet(m): 4:02pm On Nov 11, 2016
jmoore:
You are a product of a heterosexual couple. Just mention one from a homosexual couple, just one not two.


Advocates indeed! undecided
And how does this question affect Homosexual couples? Did homosexual couples tell you they have sex to produce children? Although homosexual couples cannot have children biologically, there are various options available to them if they really want to "have children". Same option are available to heterosexual couples who are incapable of having children.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Homosexuality Wrong? by wirinet(m): 3:36pm On Nov 11, 2016
jmoore:
The questions is are you a product of a heterosexual couple? undecided

There are billions of offspring from heterosexual couple. Name just one from a homosexual, and are writing hogwash.
So What? Do homosexual couples tell you that they want children? Homosexuals are already aware that they cannot produce children. There are also millions of heterosexual couples who cannot have children.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Homosexuality Wrong? by wirinet(m): 3:31pm On Nov 11, 2016
felixomor:
Will u enrol your 2 yr old daughter in a nursery school run by a lesbian teacher or a rather normally married one?
What is the relationship between marital status and teaching? Is there a correlation between ability to teach and marital status or sexual orientation? How will you know the sexual orientation of all the teachers in a school? Are they going to be wearing tags or you will interview all of them to know their marital status and sexual orientation, besides, some people are bi-sexual, meaning they are married but still cheat with people of the same sex. How do you differentiate these ones?

Sexual orientation and everything to do with sex are personal, just like religion, it is nobody else's business.
Christianity EtcRe: I Keep Having Dreams About Rapture..... Help by wirinet(m): 1:24pm On Nov 08, 2016
enshi:
I am a Young man in my late 20s but ever since i was about 15 uptil now, I have been having this dreams about rapture...
It got to a point where my late uncle even appared to me in the dream and was showing me what the Day of rapture would look like...

Some days ago same dream reoccured and this time it was so real that i got up after the dream and couldnt believe we are still in the world...

The broblem is i cant say that i am born again And in those dreams which occure almost three to four times a year for the past years i only happen to have raptured trice...

This last one was so terrifying and real... I dont know if there is any other person on this issue with me... And is there something i can do concerning it pls advice
You are having sympthoms of a mental desease called Schizophrenia
Schizophrenia
Schizophrenia is a mental disorder characterized by abnormal social behavior and failure to understand what is real.[2] Common symptoms include false beliefs, unclear or confused thinking, hearing voices, reduced social engagement and emotional expression, and a lack of motivation.[2][3] People with schizophrenia often have additional mental health problems such as anxiety disorders, major depressive illness, or substance use disorder.[4] Symptoms typically come on gradually, begin in young adulthood, and last a long time.[3][5]

The causes of schizophrenia include environmental and genetic factors.[6] Possible environmental factors include being raised in a city, cannabis use, certain infections, parental age, and poor nutrition during pregnancy.[6][7] Genetic factors include a variety of common and rare genetic variants.[8] Diagnosis is based on observed behavior and the person's reported experiences.[5] During diagnosis a person's culture must also be taken into account.
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia

The relationship between religion and schizophrenia is of particular interest to psychologists because of the similarities between religious experiences and psychotic episodes; religious experiences often involve auditory and/or visual hallucinations, and those with schizophrenia commonly report similar hallucinations, along with a variety beliefs that are commonly recognized by modern medical practitioners as delusional.[1] In general, religion has been found to have "both a protective and a risk increasing effect" for schizophrenia.[2]

A common report from those with schizophrenia is some type of a religious belief that many medical practitioners consider to be delusional - such as the belief they are divine beings or prophets, God is talking to them, they are possessed by demons, etc.[3][4][5] Active and adaptive coping skills in subjects with residual schizophrenia are associated with a sound spiritual, religious, or personal belief system.[6] In a study of patients with schizophrenia that had been previously admitted to a hospital, 24% had what the medical field refers to as religious delusions.

Trans-cultural studies have found that such religious beliefs, which often may not be associated with reality, are much more common in patients with schizophrenia who identify as Christian and/or reside in predominately Christian areas such as Europe or North America.[7][8] By comparison, patients in Japan much more commonly have delusions surrounding matters of shame and slander,[7] and in Pakistan matters of paranoia regarding relatives and neighbors
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_and_schizophrenia
If you fail to seek medical attention, your condition will actually deteriorate to the level where you will be seeing all figures in your raptured dream world and it will be difficult to function normally.
Christianity EtcRe: Strange Happening: Random Mad Man Just Called Me By My Full Names by wirinet(m): 2:30pm On Nov 07, 2016
olureignforever:
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Dear, don't disturb urself, Mad people see what we can't see, I remember when baba ijebu was new, a mad man gave about five no. to someone and the person won ever since then, I see people calling that mad man name saying "give me no" and those no will always win. Next time you should have given him something, you might receive pleasant suprises. My people will say, o ti di ebora. I.e he has turn to diety.
The bolded is what we skeptics hate. You made a claim with no name, location or any detail, but you want us to believe it as the truth. How do you expect someone to verify this your story.
Christianity EtcRe: Strange Happening: Random Mad Man Just Called Me By My Full Names by wirinet(m): 2:27pm On Nov 07, 2016
Princewilla:
1. I expected something logical from you
2. I have no plans of getting close to any mad man, not to talk of the one with extraordinary behavior
3. I don't bet
4. I didn't say the mad man said he has access to winning lotto numbers
5. He called my name

Remain Blessed
Why the morbid fear of the mad man? Was he exhibiting violent behaviour? Phsychiatic doctors deal with mad men everyday.
Christianity EtcRe: Strange Happening: Random Mad Man Just Called Me By My Full Names by wirinet(m): 1:56pm On Nov 07, 2016
naijadeyhia:
Atheists say provide proof of God yet are skeptically close minded and fail to understand that their skeptical physical mind cannot rationalise a spiritual occurrence. Oga I am done with you. let me be.
If our physical minds cannot rationalise God, how then can people like you claim to be able to rationalize him/her or even it. How can we know the emperor is wearing clothes if the clothes are invisible to the eyes?
Christianity EtcRe: Strange Happening: Random Mad Man Just Called Me By My Full Names by wirinet(m): 1:42pm On Nov 07, 2016
naijadeyhia:
Are all judgments passed in law courts true? If so why are we seeing wrongful convictions? People being sentenced for crimes they did not commit and later being released years later when they realised their error...was there no evidence that showed their innocence in truth?
That is the point. Since the judge or the jury as the case may be, were not physical eye witnesses to the crime, they have to rely only on evidence to convict or acquit the suspect. There is no other way, except you suggest they consult Ifa or Ayilala to convict the suspect. This is not about the truth, this is what can be proven with available evidence.

Using the law court in your defence is erroneous because the law court is not about truths but who can argue facts better even if those facts are lies ...why do you think lawyers are fondly called liars?
As i asked, if using the law court to attempt to get at the truth is erroneous, what else do you suggest, Spiritual means?

I love the quote i bolded. Just as the law courts are not neccessarily about the truth but who have better evidence to support the supposed facts, even if these facts are lies, the same way science is not neccessarily about the truth but evidences that support the supposed truth, even if these truth are "lies". That is why scientific facts are subject to revisions and sometimes reversions due to new evidences. The same way, new evidences are used to exonorate a previously convicted person.
You are engaging in what is called hasty generalization. Not all lawyers are liars, some lawyers lawyers are truthful. The same way not all scientists are truthful, some scientists try to falsify and fake evidence to support their arguments while a vast majority is only after the truth. Science has a peer review mechanism that try to weed out false evidences and dishonest scientists.

If I see a man killed and in a pool of blood and the murder weapon is right there and I ignorantly pick it up while yelling for help for the dying man. People on the scene would say they saw nobody else except me and my prints are all over the weapon and the victims blood is on me.

The law would find me guilty since my defence has no witnesses for me but is that judgment based on truth or facts on falsehood?
In a proper just society the law would not find you guilty simply because you are holding a knife beside a stabed victim, otherwise O J simpson would have been in prison for life. To prove murder, you will have to prove motive and intent in addition to having the murder, and you will have to prove it beyond all reasonable doubt.
The atheist mind is just like that....a twisted skeptical maze.
Fallacy of the century. It is you theists that are a cocophony of twisted and delusional beliefs. Atheist simply say prove that your God exists.
Christianity EtcRe: Strange Happening: Random Mad Man Just Called Me By My Full Names by wirinet(m): 11:39am On Nov 07, 2016
naijadeyhia:
Your explanation of an atheistic mind is too lenghty...Let me abridge it for you..Op he means the atheistic mind Is full of skeptism....So if an atheistic mind is naturally skeptical what degree of evidence would clear its skeptism?
Yes the atheistic mind is full of skepticism, we do not accept anything on face value or by faith.
Present your claims, present your evidence and let the skeptic himself decide.
If he shows you video proof you could say he already told the mad man his name prior to the video.

If he shows you witness accounts you could call them paid lackies.

Heck you could even go as far as saying the md man may not be mad afterall and just an actor.
Let him show the video proof and eye witness account first before we can argue about the veracity and validy of the evidence. Here he presented no video proof, no witness account, not even a claim. He only said he heard his name and ran.

How can you from just his post know that the man was actually man? Do you have his medical records or account from close family members. Some people are termed mad because the do not conform to normal societal behaviours, some suffer different types of mental diseases.
So what evidence can satisfy a skeptical atheistic mind?
The skeptical atheistic mind is like a law court, present your evidence and then the person can decide whether the evidence provided supports the claims.
Christianity EtcRe: Strange Happening: Random Mad Man Just Called Me By My Full Names by wirinet(m): 10:14am On Nov 07, 2016
Princewilla:
I Really regret that this will be my first post since joining Nairaland 2011.
Anyway back to topic., I just got into this neighborhood recently, only few people know me, the one's that even know me, knows only my first name Princewill

So I was returning from Church this morning, when I met this mad man, he was literally standing on the way, just as I was about to pass, he called out 'Ejyk nwa-eze nwa-okegwo biko chorom something'

I was transfixed, not only did he call my name, but he even called upto my Grandpa's name;

For the records, it's only my Grandpa (now late) that calls me just like this mad man did.

I told a friend of mine who lives in the same area and he told me that's a regular occurrence with that particular mad man.

I really want to know if there is any logical explanation to this or maybe atheists can help me unravel this mystery


Seun & Lalasticlala pls can more people see this?
I am highly disappointed by your response, why did you run away? White men dominated the world today by exploring and conquering the unknown. They built boats and ventured out into the vast endless seas without knowing if they can get back. They went up mountains to explore thunder and lightenings. We blacks on the other hand run at some mad man mentioning our names.
Why did fear take over your Inquisitive mind? The most logical think to do was to give the man man some money and try and find out how he knew your name. (That us if it was actually your name he was calling). Why not carry out a research on the profile of the mad man, like his family background and why he became mad.
Next time if you see the same mad man, see if he calls your name again and then try and engage him ( from a safe distance).

From your story, there is nothing to go on. No info or details to be able to give any explanation or advice.

The atheistic mindset requires detailed data with supporting evidence to be able to accept a proposition or story.
PoliticsRe: Pandemonium In Ikorodu As Lagos State Govt. Bans Red BRT Buses. by wirinet(m): 9:38am On Nov 07, 2016
PureHeart01:
I thought they were banned from using BRT lanes specifically, and not a total ban from the roads?
Banned from using BRT lanes? The red busses had never been allowed on the BRT lanes from mile 12 to Ikorodu since the road was opened, so I do not know the ban you guys are talking about.
Christianity EtcRe: Benny Hinn At Ayo Oritsejafor's Church In Warri. Photos by wirinet(m): 6:16pm On Nov 04, 2016
MATEX30:
Its so good to have evangelist Benny Hinn in Nigeria, we are blessed! See more photos of the ministration here - http://www.africang.com/benny-hinn-creates-a-scene-at-oritsejafors-church-as-many-falls-under-the-anointingphotos/
Please show me where people were falling under anointing in the bible.
Christianity EtcRe: Anita Oyakhilome Gets Divorce Certificate by wirinet(m): 5:52pm On Nov 04, 2016
myners007:
The Woman is quite over ambitious. Women should always learn how bto be submissive to their husband and be supportive ang encouraging even when the chips are down.Its not advisable for a Man of God to be involved in a divorce saga but Anita insisted and has finally gotten it. May God continue to strenghten you pastor Chris and your ministry will continue to wax stronger
You talk like someone living in 1st century palestine or present day Arabia. 20th century women must be ambitious to support her family and survive. You want women to be submissive to their husbands, so you also women should be covered up and only needed in the kitchen, bedroom and the other room? For God sake, someone's wife is aspiring to be president of the united state. I feel sorry for your future wife.

So if chris cannot choose and remain married to a woman, how is he expected to pray for his followers to find a a right woman or keep successful marriages or even give marriage advice?
Christianity EtcRe: Pastafarians, Let's Meet Here by wirinet(m): 12:30pm On Nov 04, 2016
Beamborla:
I still believe they are kidding sha.

All they live for is to drink beer and have sex after death.


Na joke! Too ridiculous
Believe me that is heaven for some people (in fact many people). Some people will be ready to commit suicide if they are assured of such heaven.
Christianity EtcRe: Benny Hinn At Ayo Oritsejafor's Church In Warri. Photos by wirinet(m): 11:45am On Nov 04, 2016
Kayelyon:
And the person that asked this question will say he's a Christian!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nobody said falling under the power is the ultimate.
It is however a manifestation of the Spirit which may not occur all the time.
In acts 2, when the HolyGhost filled the disciples, they where described as "DRUNK MEN".
Its pretty annoying to see people bring their confusion to platforms like this with so much pride & arrogance.
If you dont agree with it, move on!
If your church does not see such supernatural effects of the HolyGhost, abeg move on!!!
Some matters are bigger than you, your confusion, your pride & your company of scoffers!
It is you that have no idea what christianity is. You people (pentecostals) impose your african traditional beliefs and practices into christianity. Falling down and rolling on the floor, barking like a dog, shouting in strange and intelligible voices were never part of christianity, these were spiritual practices of African and South American traditional religions.

Please show me any example of any of the above practices in the Bible. If anyone behaved the way you people do today in ancient palestine, they would be deemd mad and possessed by demons and be cast away from society.

The men were described as drunk men because people heard the desciples speaking and preaching in different languages early in the morning.

Acts 2:5 - 11
5Now there were dwelling in Jerusalem God-fearing Jews from every nation under heaven. 6And when this sound rang out, a crowd came together in bewilderment, because each one heard them speaking his own language.

7 In wonder and amazement, they asked, “Are not all these men who are speaking Galileans? 8How is it then that each of us hears them in his own native language? 9Parthians, Medes, and Elamites; residents of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia,a 10Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya near Cyrene; visitors from Rome, 11both Jews and converts to Judaism; Cretans and Arabs—we hear them declaring the mighty works of God in our own tongues!”
People could hear the desciples in their various languages, they were not shouting jibberish and barking like mad dogs.

Please tell me once again what is the benefits of shouting jibberish and barking like mad dogs.
Christianity EtcRe: Murder Is Not Wrong As Long As There Is A God! by wirinet(m): 10:55am On Nov 02, 2016
felixomor1:
Ur freedom of speech ends where another person's own starts. And also where the law starts..
And that law is represented by the officer.
U can see the type of reasoning u r using. No wonder.

Be using google as ur Constitution there. Lol

Moreover the people u even captured seem to also be groaning like angry kids who were mocking the prophet and then complaining after they were punished.

Continue with ur google law and order.
What exactly are you saying? that insulting an officer of the law deserves capital punishment?

In that case any one that insults TB Joshua and other self acclaimed prophets should be shot.
Christianity EtcRe: How To Destroy An Atheist In An Argument. by wirinet(m): 10:45am On Nov 02, 2016
GRIMMJOE:
10. Threaten them with HELL!!!

Christianity EtcRe: Benny Hinn At Ayo Oritsejafor's Church In Warri. Photos by wirinet(m): 10:25am On Nov 02, 2016
goodvision12:
When i first watched benny hinn ministration on Tv i was spiritually empowered and motivated to be like him.I prayed fervently for such awesome gift of signs and wonders.I went to a particular church to minister could you believe that during my ministration when the power of God came down the whole place was electrified and full of His presence.The congregation could not withstand the power of His Glory and i was to see them falling down to the glory of His name and miracles taking place.That is the awesome power of God.
Please can you explain to us how people falling down to the power of his glory help anybody? Will the falling down help the situations of those that are falling down? Those congregation that are falling down like dominos, will they from then forth all all their health, social, financial, and all other problems disappear?
Christianity EtcRe: The Role Of Churches In Solving Nigeria's Economic Challenges by wirinet(m): 12:28pm On Oct 30, 2016
Greatzeus:
Good write up,God bless you.
But if churches should do as you said and invest in Agriculture, it is these same Nigerians and mostly Christians that will say they are business men not true men of God. Some will even want the Agricultural products to be distributed free,the way they are clamouring for church schools to be free.
The problem is that you are viewing the church as the building abd the pastor. If you see the church as the congregation, then your views will make sense. If the "church" should invest in agriculture, then that church should enjoy the harvest of the agriculture and not just the pastor and his family.

People complain about church schools because the schools were built with the tithes and offerings of the members and yet the fees are to expensive for the members of that church to afford. After all, the missionry schools built with church money were completely free.
Christianity EtcRe: The Role Of Churches In Solving Nigeria's Economic Challenges by wirinet(m): 12:17pm On Oct 30, 2016
Walphem:
Today's Nigeria economy is really becoming uninteresting and a bit sickening, this has made me ponder so much and left me totally confused. I have asked myself what are the roles of today's believers? Joseph was a man that God used to plan for the raining days of a country and he saved an entire country and his family from Famine. Jesus Christ fed 5000 women, and performed lot of miracles. With these and many more I am totally convinced that the church is fully Empowered to solve the present predicament Nigeria is in.

Please don't get me wrong, I appreciate the efforts of various churches in organizing leadership and empowerment seminars eg Daystar Leadership conference, Convent Centre's -The Platform, RCCG Conventions, Winners' Shiloh, TREM's Kingdom Life Conference etc. However, what the country need from the church at this point is way beyond that.
All through the remaining period of the year, October, November, Decemeber churches will be filled up with Church goers praying to close the year 2016 strongly and start the year 2017 in a much better way! And believe me the church gives so much hope to those with faith and believes! After this Hope, Faith and Believe what more? Empowerment seminars and Leadership trainings? Is that enough? No that isn't enough! We need churches that can use its might to solve particular problem(s) of the country.

I remember few years ago Daystar came up with a project to ensure Nigerians enjoy constant power supply, but we never heard about the campaign anymore. We have also heard of Pastors vying for political positions to assist in solving the national problems, what a fantastic step,however the Bible clearly identify to us not to " yoke with unbelievers".

Then how do I want the church to be a game changer? It is simple, why can't we have one or 2 churches going into mainstream agriculture as part of their missionary work, most of them raise funds for missionary works outside the country with minimal or no ROI(mind you I know it is not meant for profit) , but it is long overdue for the big churches to start venturing in solving real life problems and not "educational" problems alone.

It is worthy to note that great professionals are "church goers" and they can give their services to churches on Pro bono, with this churches can have an industry of their choice for the purpose of solving problems.

The time has come to not only buy Private jets (in dollars and putting pressure on the Forex) importing church equipment in Billions of Naira etc

We can truly show the world "how missionary work can be done" not just by opening schools alone and the graduate of the schools not even having any paid employment.

I have a strong feeling that the church has the right solution to Nigeria's problems.

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Caveat: I am just a concerned Nigerian and a Christian, thread isn't for insults but to discuss how we can get Nigeria out of this mess
How can churches help in solving Nigeria's economic challenges when the churches discourage hard work as a means of economic progression but promote miracle money, sudden riches, miraculous blessings as a means of acquiring economic success.

How can Nigeria solve its economic challenges when churches teach that the way to economic success is prayers, giving to the church, attending all church activities (even during working days and hours) and paying tithes and offerings.
Christianity EtcRe: The Role Of Churches In Solving Nigeria's Economic Challenges by wirinet(m): 12:02pm On Oct 30, 2016
omojeesu:
How children of God can and should help Nigeria: STAND FOR JESUS. LET THE LIGHT SHINE IN THE DARKNESS OF NIGERIA

1. Walk in love. Be friendly.
2. Live holy
3. Show good example
4. Win souls and nurture them
5. Inteceed for the nation
6. Help the poor and needy

In sum: Live like Jesus.
And how are all the points you raised going to help solve Nigeria's economic challenges?
Christianity EtcRe: Problems with Evolutionary Theory by wirinet(m): 9:27am On Oct 30, 2016
Kalatium:
MY mistake! Origin of species
Is man not a specie?
So you accept man as a specie, but you reject the "origin of species"?
So what specie is man?
Do you also accept man is in the Hominidae family?
Christianity EtcRe: I'll Believe In Evolution Theory Only If Someone Can Explain This To Me by wirinet(m): 9:05am On Oct 29, 2016
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As beautiful and complex as they seem those snow flakes are made without any guiding hand. Non whatsoever. I doubt you can make such intricate shapes out if thin ice, but these occur naturally and ironically they start from much simpler beginnings to such complex states, evolutionist propose the same about life. DNA coding is a natural process and is not proof of an intelligent mind. Ponder in those points
I love the use of ice crystals to demostate the ability of "complex designs" occuring naturally without the need of an intelligent designer. If ice consisting of only water molecules can form millions or even billions of patterns with the aid of only natural forces, what about the number of patterns that can be made with mainly carbon atoms and simple molecules. What is the probability of just one pattern arrangement capable of self duplication (life)
Christianity EtcRe: I'll Believe In Evolution Theory Only If Someone Can Explain This To Me by wirinet(m): 9:02am On Oct 29, 2016
You do not believe evolution, evolution is not like religion that relies on faith and believe, you understand evolution. You study various fields that explains evolution and come to an understanding and conclusion.
Obviously your diagram and question shows you have no clue of what evolution is. You and other fellow christians believe evolution is a kind of metamorphosis. You interpret the diagram as depicting a monkey metaphosizing into a human.
The first monkey like figure in your diagram does not depict modern monkey, but our ape-like common ancestor. And for your education, there are no millions of our ape-like common ancestor on the planet today, they have been extinct for millions of years. The only living specie in your diagram is the last figure (Homo Sapiens).

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