₦airaland Forum

adjoviomole:
Our nipple as a man is equally sensitive just dat d womens, is more sensitive....meanwhile if d men don't have breast,what would you have wanted to be in that position if its not perfect?

You are just talking nonsense. Women's tips are sensitive to aid sexual arousement to encourage women to want and enjoy sex. For men it dies not aid sexual arousement.
A breast's primary function is to feed infants with milk. A secondary function is to arouse men. It does not do any of these in men.

A breast does not need to be in a man's chest, it is of no use. The chest can simply be flat and breastless.

ValentineMary:
OP are u new on nairaland? atheist have dissected this topic several times to the point that theist no longer bring up the evolution argument again, because they know they would lose.

Now OP ans this. Who designed whale to have lungs in the ocean

Abeg, also helep me aks this kweshion;
Why did his God design design men with breasts? What is the purpose of breasts in men? Since your bible said God created man first, and made woman from man, what was man supposed to do with breasts with nipple.

Theists, especially Christians and Muslims are always trying to impose their views, beliefs and biases on everyone else.
Whether two adults couples decides to abstain or not depends soley on the couples involved, it is nobody's business. Different strokes for different folks. It might work for others, it might not work for others. Even pastors and G.Os who married ideal women according to Christian values also end up divorcing their wives.

I for one do not support abstenance before marriage. I believe couples should know each other very well in all ramifications before pledging to live together for the rest of their lives.

winner01:
Did time and space begin with the universe?

Yes time and space began with the universe, or put in another way, time and space are properties of the universe.
What is your definition of time?

You guys talk so much gibberish, you sound schizophrenic.

promise10:
EXACTLY, animals have no soul, if what you are referring to is an eternal soul. I am not saying that there are type of souls.

So what exactly are you saying? Are there different types of souls or not?

These same " Animals have no soul" notion was the same argument that enabled Christians justify slavery and genocide against "African Savages" They were just branded animals and voila, they became soulless.

The ONLY reason why man has an ETERNAL SOUL AND SPIRIT is because man was created in the image of an ETERNAL GOD.

Please educate me what you mean by eternal soul and spirit. If the soul is eternal, then it was never created. Are you saying that you God is a MAN (probably a Jewish man with diick and all). What of women and hermaphrodites (yes some people are born with both sexes), in whose image were they created?

So, for animals to have soul, means they were created after God's spirit(image) which is not so.

Please explain what you mean by "created after God's spirit", and why you think that animals were not created after this God's spirit.
Look at the picture of the chimpanzee below and tell me why you say it does not have a soul and spirit, while you do.

plaetton:
Please read the op very well.
The op is not suggesting that religion is the direct cause of our underperformance at the Olympics.
No.
Rather, he is asking, as we atheists usually do, why does our over-religiosity, our supposed closeness to divine powers and miracles always fail to show its pre-eminence in major facets of our personal national lives?

Why are we last in economic management, ethics, peace and harmony, science and technology, health and longevity, even the commonest luxury of 24 hr electricity?

Is religion( our existential worldview) a factor in our collective FAILURE as a people?
That is the simple , but critical question.

We atheists already know the answer.

We just like to remind the rest of you once in a while.

The OP asked a valid question. Why is religious Africa underperforming at the Olympics and indeed every other indice of human development. Instead of the theists to reflect on the questions, there are going on the attack and comparing us to other continents.
Religious Africa is underperforming generally because we waste so much time in unproductive activities, instead of developing ourselves, individually and collectively, couple with the fact that we lack ability long time planing and foresight. We want instant and huge gratification with little planing and work. This is exactly what our brand of religion offers and why people spend more time with religious affairs than with actual productive activities.
A typical religious Nigerian will spend an average of two hours everyday in prayers. The average Christian would attend mid week service on Wednesday, night vigil on Friday ( making Saturday morning useless), then probably fellowship, choir practice or other church activities for the rest of Saturday. Some attend cell meetings or fellowships during the working days. If you add up all the time an average Nigerian spends on religious activities, I am sure it is not less than 25% of his/her waking time.
Now let's interpolate this time wastage with others from other parts of the world.
Athletes from other spend less than 10% of their waking hours on religious affairs, those from Europe and Asia even spend less. So obviously they put in more physical effort at trainings than our African based athletes. Furthermore, other athletes starts training for the next Olympics immediately the present Olympics ends. We Africans generally start preparing for the next competition a few months to the games. How do we hope to compete.
This same over religiosity affect all facets of our lives. I was miffed while university that science and technology students who should be spending most of their waking hours at research and study, waste lots of time with religious activities. You expect these students to compete with others from other parts of the world or lead Nigeria's technological development?

Truthman83, welcome to the real world. The journey to the real world is not easy but I am glad you made it.
You will still suffer from the withdrawal symptoms of the potent drug called religion, you might at first feel empty and drepressed after being mentally imprisoned for so long, depending on pastors, spiritual daddies and a sky daddy. But as the symthoms clear, you will learn to live a happier, more fulfilling and productive life.

hopefulLandlord:
This is very very awkward

I don't have a definition for god

If it sounds stupid and unintelligent and makes me sound like I didn't go to school, then so be it

I have no such definition of mine

I'm tongue tied here and perhaps sounding incoherent but I've already seen that this discussion would go no where

YOU WIN!!!

But if I'm being forced to define god

I'll say "a supreme being"

This your definition of God is identical to theist definition, I am sure it was informed by your Christian background. It seems you are in agreement with promise10's definition.
Can you explain what the word "being" means before we can even discuss whether it is supreme or not.

hopefulLandlord:
This has made me realise how pointless this theistic atheistic arguments are


There's NO base to start

I have already seen this pointlessness from a mile away

How does someone define what he thinks is imaginary?

How do you define a colour without mentioning it?

How do you argue the colour of a wall with someone who thinks there is no wall there in the first place?

There is no basis

Maybe I'm not thinking straigh

You are gradually maturing atheistically, because you have come to the realization that atheists - theist arguments are pointless. Just present your views and let theists present theirs and leave it at that.
Theist - atheist arguments are like a man who only understands Yoruba arguing with a man who only understands Chinese about which language is the best. There is simply no means of communication. Even the same words in both languages will have different meanings.

I also passed through the frustrations and fruitlessness of arguing with theists in my university days, so I understand your frustrations

winner01:
Okay, and the system created itself??

Yes, the same way your God created himself.

winner01:
Okay, of what good is it when you've spent your life on earth fighting God, die only to be used as plant manure to grow trees, those trees are cut and used to make sheets of paper, and Bible verses printed on such paper.
You've lost before you even started.

I am not fighting any God - whether Yahweh, Jesus, Allah, Krishna, Zeus, etc., I have never believed in any of them. I was lucky to have a very peculiar early childhood, I was not introduced to Christianity until I was about 7 years old, and by then it did not make sense to me. So how can you say I was angry at any God?

If you understand the way the universe works, you will realize that the universe is a perfect recycler, materials from previous objects are used to create new ones, likewise, materials from previous lives are raw materials for new lives.

winner01:
Humans created phones, God created man. Why is it difficult for you to see that God is not a man. The life you have is not yours, you'll give it back someday.

The infants you are crying for are enjoying themselves with their maker so what will you do now? Arrest God?

Fallacy. There is no evidence whatsoever that the God you adopted from your slavemasters or colonial masters created anybody.
My life is mine and mine only, when I die, I die and my body is given up to the earth to be raw materials for other lives.

This new excuse of God created life and so have the right to take life or commit genocide is a highly dangerous doctrine. As God himself cannot come down and take lives he is unhappy with, his servants or messengers can claim to have instructions to take the lives on his behalf and no one can fault them. A crazy ruler can claims to act on behalf of God can commit genocide on specific people claiming he has instructions from the manufacturer of life, who demands a recall.

Sctests:
Sanusi the peverted Pedophile.

Emir of pedophiles, I bet he must have started touching the little girl's boobs when she was 14 years old.

Just like Ojukwu would have touched Bianca's Punny after attending her naming ceremony

Oga Seun, as per the topic at hand, i do not believe in being outspoken in religious affairs. To me religion is a personal affair and people guard their beliefs jealously, sometimes with their lives.

The best way to make people see the folly of religious beliefs is to debate and exchange opinions as we had been doing here on Nairaland. With time the religious fanatics would gradually start questioning long held dogmas. This is how tens of people have denounced their faith right here on nairaland and this is how hundreds more have started questioning long held beliefs.
Dumping religion is a slow and painful process, if you try to attack religion directly, you will face a fierce response.

Remember, few of us started the crusade of freeing people from the shackles of religion way way back from 2007, we had memorable debates back then with people like Huxley, Mazaje, Noetic, Davidylan, Pastor AIO, Deepsight, Morpheus, etc. Today i feel very happy to see that Nigerians, especially the youth are is slowly waking up from religious malaise and direct that energy into developmental tasks.

You can only show people the door, they would have to walk through themselves.

ayobase:
Many of you have been quoting great philosophers of centuries ago to buttress your claim.

Which philosophers are you talking about? How many ancient philosophers were atheists?

I am also quoting my Lord, Jesus Christ, the I am that I am, the prince of peace, the author and finisher of my faith, who was and is and is to come, the Messiah...

He says, "I am the way, the truth and the life, no one can see the father except through me"

You people are adept at throwing up meaningless cliches. What is a lord? Is it a landlord or chieftaincy title? What of the king, queen, dukes, princes, princesses and all paraphernalia of monarchy?

For me to prove if He exists, you must be very versed in histories and believe they happened, just as you do quote once existed atheists, who you don't where they are as we discuss, but my Jesus said He is going to prepare a place for me.

There very little history or archeological proof of any of the biblical stories. Most atheists do not need to read a historical or fictional book to become atheists, they simply realize your fables and myths about your god is senseless.
So you need Jesus to prepare a place for you? You mean you are helpless or incapable of preparing a place for yourself.

To prove if He exists, answer this questions as well versed you are in histories/occurrences and researches;

1. Do you know the Isrealites were once captives in the land of Egypt, and do you know how they were set free?

No historical or archaeological evidence that the Jews were captives of the Egyptians.

2. Do you know a man called Jesus Christ who was around more than 2000 years ago who died and resurrected the third day

If you don't know of those as history claims, but you know and read of some who didn't believe God exists, then I rest my case.

And if you know of those, but still believe they are all lies and religious propaganda, but you believe in those who said God exists not, then I still rest my case.

God bless you and make His face shine upon you.

No historical or archeological evidence that any human resurrected from death 2000 years ago. Although there are myths of resurrection from the dawn of recorded history till today.

KingEbukasBlog:
There is no proof for this claim considering that most atheists are suffering . Facts have revealed that Christians are the wealthiest , most successful and emotionally stable .

And you have proof that most atheists are suffering? Suffering from what exactly?

Which fact reveal Christians are the most wealthiest, successful and emotionally stable? If you consider the total number of Christians inj the world, they would be far worse off in terms of those parameters. Atheists would be the the wealthiest , most successful and emotionally stable in terms of belief to population ratio.
Christians are the most emotionally unstable, that is why they invest all their emotions in superstitions and religion and are easily exploited "men of god"

You are an atheist because you rejected whatever evidence for God and blindly ignored very compelling evidences . Your arguments are always and easily refuted , so its more of an emotional thing than logical .

On January 1, 2011, CNN reported:

People unaffiliated with organized religion, atheists and agnostics also report anger toward God either in the past, or anger focused on a hypothetical image - that is, what they imagined God might be like - said lead study author Julie Exline, Case Western Reserve University psychologist.


In studies on college students, atheists and agnostics reported more anger at God during their lifetimes than believers

Fallacy. Anger at what, a mythical figure? A person angry at your god has to believe in your God in the first place. It is like a kid getting angry at Santa Claus for not bringing him Christmas present. It will be stupid for an adult to get angry at Santa.

You are endangering the lives of your brothers because of your anger at God? Seems rational

Endangering their life from what? I hope you are not insinuating that your God is dangerous.

Contraceptives are not permitted outside marriages - that's Christianity .

Please quote relevant chapters and verses in the Bible that forbids contraceptives outside marriage.

@emboldened text I can construe this as: Kill that human becomes I dont like him/her Kill, Kill , Kill - people go to jail when they do this and its called murder .

The procedure threatens the life of the woman too . Why would you put the lives of the unborn child and the mother in danger because she made an irrational decision and lacked self control

I am pro-choice, because I believe a child should not be brought to this world if unless it will be cared for and loved by its parents, especially the mother. Unwanted children are more a menace to society than unwanted pregnancies. I have seen a day old baby floating in the Lagos lagoon and the experience can be traumatic.
No legal system in the world can term aborted babies murder, only Christian fundamentalists do that. A foetus is not a legal individual, it is the second it comes out of the mothers womb it becomes a legal entity.
Why are you more concern about the life of a mother and her unborn baby than about their welfare? You are just interested in massaging your moral ego. If a poor pregnant mother should as you for money to feed her baby, I am sure you will preach Christianity to her instead.
There is very little risk in abortion today, if the done in a proper licensed hospital and is done early enough ( within the first trimester). It is when abortion is criminalized that women resort to back alley quack doctors that makes abortion life threatening. Proper hospitals would carry out safety tests before embarking on the abortion.

We know what elicited this thought/reaction and its not from your brain . Humans are also programmed to have self control and show prudence .

Please tell us where else this thought/reaction are elicited from.
Sex is hardwired into our brains, just like other instincts like food and fear. These are fundamental behaviours that ensures our individual and species survival.

I knew about sex when I was 10 and I'm still a virgin . There are millions of people like me .

I got sex education from parents ,school and friends and still abstained from pre-marital sex . I execrate the idea of pre-marital sex . The product of that has caused humanity so much harm .

Except you are less that 25, I would feel sorry for you. A fully grown man in his 30s that is still a virgin has serious psychological and physiological issues, he needs to see a doctor. And any woman that such a man proposes to should insist on intensive medical and psychological tests before agreeing to marriages or simply insisting on testing the tool before marriage. Even my neighbour junior sister had to divorce her pastor husband because his tool did not perform after the wedding. She endured a sexless marriage for two years.

ndcide:
Look Bro, those of us who know, know that pastor Ayo remains the best CAN President of resent times.

Pastor Ayo was not playing games with the issues of boko haram with those who politicized it to fight GEJ. Recall he address the sultan directly on the why they are not speaking against boko haram.

Those of you who "know that pastor Ayo remains the best CAN President of resent times. " also know that Jonathan was the best president in the history of Nigeria, right?

Pastor Ago was not playing politics? So why did the Catholic Church withdraw from CAN in 2013 under his leadership?
Read the link below;

Why we pulled out of CAN — Catholic bishops
The Christian Association of Nigerian, CAN, an umbrella body for the country’s teeming Christians, descended into full-blown crisis Wednesday with the Catholic Bishops Conference of Nigeria making public its decision to pull out of the fold over the way the Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor-led executive is running the association.
The Catholic bishop’s action is perhaps the first time in the association’s 37-year history that any of its five blocs would pull out over alleged poor leadership and politicization of the association.
http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/116774-why-we-pulled-out-of-can-catholic-bishops.html

So what did pastor Ayo led can do for northern Christians during the difficult boko haram days? What assistance or programs did he bring to alleviate the sufferings of northern Christians? He was more concerned about northern Muslims leaders speaking out. How is northern leaders speaking out against book haram going to help northern Christians when the same northern leaders and Muslims in general are being attacked and killed by Book Haram?

zord33k:
Happy Birthday to them.. the girl was actually my course mate.

You are invariably inditing Taiwo Awoniyi for using a false age. If she was your course mate, it means you are both graduates already. Even if you guys graduated last year, it means she must have gained admission into the university at the age of 14. It will be less if you guys have already done your youth service.
Please tell us when you graduated, then we will be able to estimate her age

I really like the way you wrote this. It is just that I have an entirely different perspective.

winner01:
Those things that makes sense to man may not always be right.
You may be married to your wife for 10 years and rationalize the urge to find a younger babe to satisfy your desires. It may make sense to you but its not right.

Who determines what is right or wrong? As we have argued numerous timed, there are no absolute rights or wrong. Just like time, right and wrongs relative to the frame of reference. A man married for ten years without any children might need to get a younger verile wife to produce children as the older wife might be childless and passed menopause. This is right in many cultures, including biblical israel.

It does not matter what our wishes are. It does not matter what seems rational to us. The universe created us to live suffer and die, according to the atheists. This in itself is not rational. There is no reason why we should live then if man is damned in hopelessness.

This is the statement I like;
On the universal scale, our wishes does not matter, rationality even breaks down, we start talking about irrational phenomena like black holes, wormholes, dark matter, highs bison, etc.
We were created by the universe to survive and die, while leaving our impression ( no matter how insignificant it might be).
It is only Christian and Muslim theists that have no hope beyond worshipping their diety in heaven for eternity. Others hope to leave their impression on their little corner of the universe.

There is even no reason why you are typing this cos the universe that allegedly created you cares less if you believe in truth or falsehood.

There is a need in man that clings tightly to purpose even when he denies the reality of purpose. That is a good proof for the existence of a Creator.

As I said, the universe will continue in its course whatever you do. Gasses will coalesce to form stars, live through their sequences and die (sometimes in a violent explosion, galaxies will collide and coalesce, asteroids and space debris will smash into planets, worlds will be created and destroyed, and so on, no matter what your wishes, prayers or purposes are.

Trump supporters are the true definition of Zombies. Hillary would not get away with 1/100th of what Donald Trump gets away with. Trump has not shown his tax receipts, he has declared branckrupcy 3 times, his wife was a nudist star, he makes sexist, racist and xenophobic speeches, he lies at random, etc. but his supporters don't care.

See someone advertising ignorance on the Internet.

There has not been any first lady in the world that visit United States Of America that the First Lady of America will not be there to Welcome her. not to talk of Washington Dc the front yard of the first lady of America.

There are approximately 160 countries in the world, so you mean Michelle Obama will go to the airport every time the wife of another country pays a private visit to the US? That means she will practically be living in the airport. I doubt there is hardly a day that a first lady would not be passing through a US airport.

dearpreye:
The pulpit isn't a place you dish out your own personal opinions. Where a preacher wants to pass their own personal opinions, like Apostle Paul, such a preacher should make their audiences understand they're saying their own minds on an issue. Nobody's words should become a law.

I'm a member of the RCCG and I still find his latest words very unfortunate and out of order.

There's no single formula that works for all situations.

Thank you. You show that you can have an intellectual, spiritual or political leader selling your soul to that leader. Human relationships are so varied and complex that no two situation can result is the same outcome. I have seen long successful marriages where the woman is lazy,does not pray, rude and cannot cook, while i have also seen the "perfect woman" who can pray 24hrs (sometimes an assistant pastor) married to the GO or some senior pastor, whose marriage did not survive 10yrs.

Different strokes for different folks.

This analogy is not completely accurate. There is no father-children relationship. According to actual Christianity (message propagated by Jesus Christ), there are no Father, Archbishop, senior pastor, Daddy GO, etc. Everyone is short of the glory of God and equal in the sight of God, and in need of salvation. While the Judaic religion built a pyramid of hierarchy with the chief rabbis at the top of the pyramid as being closest to God, Jesus knocked down the pyramid insisting everyone can communicate with God without necessarily passing through the religious hierarchy. But Paul came in and rebuilt the pyramid. So Pualinity put popes, Bishops, GOs at the top of the pyramid as being touching distance from heaven with ordinary members being far from God and need to pass through the Pyramid to get their prayers answered.

To me G.O Adeboye has no right to arrogantly believe he can advice Christians in general about who to marry or not, how many hours they should pray or if to keep a beard or not. If a couple come for private advice, he can give is personal views and advice, but he should stop behaving like he impose his views and biases on Christianity.

Those who are interested in learning from the Bible instead of worshiping "men of God" should look up Matthew 29:9;
And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, who is in heaven.

I always say arguing with a fundamentalist wailer is like arguing with an Islamic fundamentalist. They are ready to commit suicide for usless and senseless agenda. So all Mrs Buhari's widely publicized trip with all the people she interacted with was arranged, just to fool Fayose and his senseless wailers? Even if there are videos of Mrs Buhari sitting in the white house with Mitchelle Obama, you people will still find excuse to discredit the video, but it is highly unlikely that Mrs Buhari will meet Mrs Obama, why? Because the trip is a private visit and not an official one. That was why Mrs Buhari said, the trip was privately funded:

Aisha, the wife of President Muhammadu Buhari, on Saturday said her ongoing trip to the United States was not being funded with public funds.
Speaking in an interview with the Hausa service of the Voice of America, Mrs. Buhari said the trip was being funded with personal funds and sponsorship grant.
http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/208165-trip-u-s-funded-aisha-buhari.html

US Government officials and the first lady only meet with other country's first ladies and government officials on official visits. If the first lady should attend to every other country's first ladies on every personal visit, I doubt mitchelle Obama would have time for any other thing.

Joshuabase:
One of the major reasons I became an atheist, was lack of evidence.
But a lot of people here might ask - "Lack of evidence of what exactly?"

Let's go back on time, 14th September 2013. I was googling arguments to use against atheists much like what winner01 and kingebuka do on a daily.

I typed the words "Extra biblical evidence for Jesus' existence" into google's search bar. I felt very confident that when Google returned the results I would have the ultimate weapon to use against atheists.

To my dismay, I got nothing concrete. What the Bleep!? I thought to myself, Jesus spoke to 5,000 people twice! He brought someone back from the dead, he claimed to be the son of God and for some reason, even Pliny the younger was more popular than him.

I couldn't accept it, I tore the entire Internet apart. Looking desperately. And do then it dawned on me. If Jesus were an actual historical figure I shouldn't have to look this hard. I came across josephus' Antiquities of the Jews. Not good enough, Josephus didn't actually meet or knew Jesus personally. . His documentations were based on third hand accounts and were subject to Christian interpolation.

Roman historian, Tacitus in his book ANNALS mentions a man crucified called christus by pontius pilate. Once again, based on more third hand accounts.

What about the people Jesus interacted with? The pharisees, surely they must've documented h the existence of a man claiming to be God?. They didn't. . There is no historical 'First hand account of Jesus' that exists in history apart from the synoptic gospels. I had many questions, but above all I was afraid of going to hell by questioning the Bible and the existence of Jesus. So I stopped researching and purged my mind of blasphemous thoughts.

That day, I might not have realized it but atheism had successfully taken root in me.

You seem to have been unplugged. Unplugged from the matrix ( a system that sustain you just enable "men of god" to exploit you.

If you had done your research well, you will realized that there were no actual witness to the events in the gospels, there were no second or third hand witness, in fact there were no witness at all. Read the gospels again, you will see the stories are simply a narrative. It was written like someone was telling stories to an audience. (like once opon a time, a certain man live, who said so and so ........)

Furthermore, if you read the gospels with your unplugged senses, you will realize that Jesus did not speak to anybody in particular, he was always making speeches and impersonal statements.
For example if Jesus was to be asked his name, the narrative would go like this;
A certain man from Galilee heard the wonderful things Jesus had done and came to inquire about his name. The man asked " what is your nsme ? And Jesus answered " a name is not important, the son of man does not need a name, except the one called by the father in heaven. "
This is an example of the literary style of the four synoptic gospels.

madridsta007:
lol.

Do you realise that he was speaking to his members at an RCCG organised convention? Or are you just a busybody?

So he was advicing his members how, when and where to have sex? Can you show biblical references which gives him such authority?

hadaydhollarpo:
this thread and the other threads about Pastor Adeboye shows some elements of franlance/ameebo invaded this year's convention. You can't be on that ground @ the same time keep posting on the net every now and then. I doubt if the source of this gbeborun really went to seek the face of God in the first place. I wonder what he/she will say he gained. Lets' these sex addicted people get married and ask them how far abt their sex life after 2yrs, he/she would be tired of sex IF he/she is not under spell o. Ask a married couple, they know better.

Whish one consign you? The married sex addicted people ask you or pastor adeboye for epp? People should face their own lives, instead of worrying about another people's life.
So how many times a married man should sleep with his wife is now the subject of a sermon at RCCG? Na wah o. Adeboye should kuku give sermon on the types of styles a man should use on his wife.

felixomor:
Sorry, u r not an atheist.

Then what am i?

felixomor:
You seem to be living in 1997, 2 decades ago.

Here is an excerpt from 2014 interview of William gates

Just to set the records straight.


"Bill Gates is not only the world’s richest person, he’s also one of the most generous. His organization, The Gates Foundation, is dedicated to eradicating diseases and helping the world’s most poor, and he’s committed to giving away almost his entire fortune. In a recent interview with Rolling Stone, he revealed that part of the inspiration for helping others is based on religious principles. He told the magazine (the questions about faith are on page five of the interview),

The moral systems of religion, I think, are superimportant. We've raised our kids in a religious way; they've gone to the Catholic church that Melinda goes to and I participate in. I've been very lucky, and therefore I owe it to try and reduce the inequity in the world. And that's kind of a religious belief. I mean, it's at least a moral belief."


Read more at http://www.relevantmagazine.com/slices/bill-gates-discusses-god-church-charity-and-faith#qhDSuefgyRiABj1B.99

Please try to always do current research

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The quotes of Bill Gates reflect my philosophy in life. I also believe the moral systems of religion are important, but the immoral aspects should be discarded. My wife is also a good christian, who takes our children to church. The church fellowship is even held in my house. But all these do not change the fact that I do not give a hoot about religion. I believe everybody should worship the way that makes them happy, without disturbing others. It should be a personal affair. What I detest is trying to impose your belief on others.
Proudly 100% Nigerian atheist - always been.

eph12:
Why do I have a maid? I don't man and I never will.
If the plan is to teach her after marrying her fine but I will advice you do that during courtship before the wedding. Even if your plan is to do it after the wedding fine it's your life. The most important thing is that she should be able to cook. Nothing makes a wife a good wife but herself. That doesn't mean you should not enjoy good meal at home. Your wife is not a slave that's true which means you should support her in the kitchen too but not the other way round. But if your plan is for you to be the one to prepare the meals while your wife watches TV, congratulations.

You people have what i call " my father's farm is the biggest" syndrome. You judge everybody else with your own limited experiences and expectations. People marry with different expectations, to some men food or ability of their women to cook is way down on priority levels, it may be other issues like sex, companionship, intelligence, beauty and even to help in finances. You cannot impose your own expectations on others. In other climes like western countries ability of women to cook is not an important marriage consideration.
As i said, the most important consideration in a marriage is love.

LaExpert:
You have gone against your own advice for Kemi, you're not different from the insane and uncouth Kemi.

You are publicly saying a man who's old enough to be your Father...probably grandfather is senile and declaring that his sermons are senseless simply because you can't understand the message in his speech.

Gosh, are you sure you are literate or you allow hero worship to erode your reasoning faculty? So you do not know the difference between senility and lunacy.
Let me give you the definition of senile;

Senile
1. showing a decline or deterioration of physical strength or mental functioning, especially short-term memory and alertness, as a result of old age or disease.

2. of or belonging to old age or aged persons; gerontological; geriatric.

Senility is a condition of old age, while lunacy is a mental disease. My great aunt became senile before she died last year at the age of 89, she could not even remember the names and faces of her own children. Saying someone is going senile due to old age is not an insult, especially if the person is speaking senselessly or incoherently.

If we do not understand the message of the speech, why not illuminate us by explaining it to logically to us.

Kemi Olunloyo should not be publicly insulting an old man old enough to be his father, that is very uncouth and un African, but having said that, i think daddy GO is getting senile ( probably due to old age), he needs to retire and allow young fresh brains carry on from where he has taken the RGGG. His sermons and advises nowadays are senseless, the other day he was comparing men that keep beards to Gorilla, forgeting that in the bible holy men were forbidden from cutting their hairs, now he is advising couples not to get married based on love but purely on materialistic considerations. He has forgotten that most men has faced joblessness at one point in their lives and not all women can cook well while still in their parent's house. My wife learnt to cook after i married her, intact, it was my family and i that taught her to cook our traditional dishes.
A pastor should be teaching love in marriage and love in general, without love a relationship cannot last despite all the material things in the world.