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basilico:
Media is the problem . They want to pin a crime on Trump. I had posted this yesterday, Trump was in touch with FBI , they came over and collected some stuff from him The raid was unnecessary but it sets a precedent, sometimes tables turn
On June they went through what he had and told him to add an extra lock

Do you read what you yourself post or you just sing "all glory be to Trump" all day and night?

From the timeliness you posted, you can see that the NARA tried it's possible best to retrieve highly classified documents from May 2021.

1. May 2021 - Wrote Trump about missing documents. What did Trump do? Ignore them.
2. 6 months later NARA wrote again demanding documents. Trump ignored again.
3. January 2022 - NARA retrieved 15 boxes of Federal documents (some classified).
4. February 2022 - NARA referred the case to DOJ because Trump refused to release all government documents.

April 2022 - NARA informed Trump of FBI's involvement, that they would come the following week.
May 2022 - NARA writes Trump again. Telling him FBI would come the following week again. Most probably the April visit was not very successful.

MAY 2022 - The FBI obtained a subpoena for Trump to turn over all government documents including classified ones still remaining with him.

June 2022 - DOJ visited Trump's home to take away more documents. Trump still refused to let go of all documents.

August 2022 - FBI went to court to search/raid Trump's House to retrieve all the remaining documents held by Trump wherever he may be hiding them, whether in Melania's wardrobe or Trump's safe.

The MAGA crowd has been up in arms giving one sorts stupid excuses after another to defend Trump. From witch hunt to declassification. Trump cooperating, to Hillary emails to hunter Bidens laptop One minute they say it was too rushed and they should have given Trump more time another minute they say if the documents were so important, why wait so long? The excuses are just flying left right and centre.

I am annoyed that the FBI is treating Trump like a sacred cow. Any other person would have been in jail by now instead of begging him for a one and a half year to return highly classified and confidential government documents. The current executive might need those documents to make some critical decisions.

basilico:
Show me that he did not order declass

Sorry you are not smart at all. Have you ever seen a case where you make an allegation and then ask me to prove the allegation you made is false without showing me your evidence? I can only prove the evidence you provide false.

How do you want me to prove Trump did or did not declassify any document when there were no witness, no paper trail, no recordings, nothing?

I ask you again, how and when did he declassify the documents? Provide a link.

basilico:
How many votes did those mules add for Joe Biden?

Which mules? Why not answer that? You allege, the onus is on you to prove. At least I expect you to be smart enough to know you cannot base an election result on speculations and conjectures. You are required to present your evidence before a competent authority. You need to present the exact number of mules and the exact number of votes they added. If the case has merit, then the number of fraudulent votes added would be deducted, and if it changed the final outcome, the election could then be overturned. That's how its done even in "shit hole" Nigeria. You have to prove the votes significantly altered the final result. But then I don't expect a Trump worshipper to know or care about that.

basilico:
They got the warrant from a newspaper tip
Bottom line. Trump had declassified everything he took
They are so desperate for him not to run in 2024
If everyone hates him explain 75m votes

I am not the ones alleging every one hates Trump, its you guys. You allege the FBI, CIA, Judges, Civil servants, life long republicans, democrats, media, foreign press, globalists, etc., are all enemies of Trump.

But 6 more million people voted against him.

basilico:
They got the warrant from a newspaper tip
Bottom line. Trump had declassified everything he took
They are so desperate for him not to run in 2024
If everyone hates him explain 75m votes

Lies upon Lies.
When and were the documents declassified and how? Did he just stand over the boxes of documents and wave a magic wand while shouting declassified? How come only Trump knew all the trove of documents were declassified?

There is a process for declassification of classified documents and there is no evidence whatsoever that the documents in questions were declassified.

Even at that, he has no rights to keep the documents, they are not his but property of the United State Government.

basilico:
He was asking them what they wanted , instead they barged in,
Dont think this has now been normalized>

Lies from a Trump worshipper. Read up on the genesis of the issue. National archives had been asking Trump for the classified document since 2021 not long after trump left office and he refused to hand them over. The NARA had to alert the FBI to investigate and the FBI tried to get the document, Trump only then released some of the documents and kept others. It was when whistle-blowers within the Trump organization alerted the FBI that some highly classified documents were still in Mara la go and Trump may he using them for some sinister motive that the FBI saw it fit to get a court warrant to search/raid Trump home to recover them and investigate what trump was doing with the documents.

Since your are a Trump worshipper, then help us answer the question of what Trump was doing with highly classified documents.

basilico:
Biden revoked the EP on Trump and he now claims he did not know about the raid, America is so messed up, a judge who hates DJT signed of on the search authorizing them to seize anything from 2016 , including presidential jacket.
The democrats are just sick people,

Dont think democrats are planning to ever give up power.

Everybody hates Trump.
Main Steam Media, FBI, CIA, Military, National Archives, Big Tech, judges - both District and Supreme Court judges, career civil servants, former employees, Foreign Allies, Leftists, RINOS, etc., all hate Trump. The only people that love and worship Trump are MAGAs, Extremist Right wing groups. Right wing media, Vladimir Putin, Victor Orban, etc.

LadysLuvSlyfoxx:
Behold, all ye! Son of the most ‘moral’ and ‘decent’ President in US history. Hahahaha

Useless son of a useless father.

I can only imagine the outrage from all the self righteous liberal clowns on this thread if any of Trumps sons had these kind of pictures all over the internet.

But trump Himself was involved with two oloshos, confessed to grabbing "dem by the pussy" and cheated on all his wives. And still yet, Trump remains the moral barometer to Trumptards. Furthermore Trump's senior brother was an alcoholic and drug abuser that ended up commiting suicide.

happney65:
Ani Olodo ni ee. Did gore ask that the capitol he invaded by his supporters? Did he ask that Cheney should not certify the result? Did he call secretaries of state to upturn the election and push the vote to him?

He did what was legally right and the supreme court ruled against him. And thereafter like a gentleman he conceded defeat and congratulated Bush.

Tell me did your demi gos trump do either of the above? He is still calling the election rigged till tomorrow abi no be so?

Abeg stop quoting me jare

Dick Cheney certified result of which which Al Gore himself was the Vice President?
According to trumptards Vice Predident Gore had the powers to uncertify the Florida elections despite the ruling of the supreme court and declare himself president.

The only thing that is shaking is Tinubu’s hands. Just take a look at his left hand, you will notice the fingers are always in the same clasp position. It betrays the fact that the fingers needs to be constrained to stop it from shaking. Let them show a video of tinubu during the meeting, abi dem no carry video camera with dem?

Bravetunde:
I can smell pee and poo just by looking at Tinubu,I can bet he poo on himself that is why no video,only edited pictures.

I have also been wondering why there are no videos of the highly promoted meeting with Obasanjo, only a few well choreographed and edited pictures. Also I noticed from these pictures that Tinubu's left hands are always in a semi clasp position. Looks like a symptom of some degenerative disease.

etrange:
Oh... I've not been following up on this case. I recall there were three major hurdles the senator had to pass: the age, the consent and the legality of the action. I also recall the court has judged the guy not to be a minor. Has it now been proven that the guy knew what he was going to do and gave his consent? Talking about legality, even with consent, it is still illegal in the UK. However, it can be argued that the agreement took place in Nigeria and, therefore, taking the jurisdiction away from the UK government. Like I've always maintained, there's still a possibility that the senator will come out clean. If he's guilty, let him face the consequences, but if he isn't, may he be released. Our dislike for our politicians doesn't mean we should wish anyone such. The same goes for the guy in question. If he's lying about the consent thing, mat he be caught. Otherwise, may he be vindicated.

Yes the senator has crossed the minor huddle as the boy is proven to be above 18, but the consent and legality issues will be difficult issues to cross. Under what conditions did the boy give consent and was he allowed to withdraw his consent? Why will someone who is not related or even known to the Ekweremadus consent to donate his kidney to them? If there was any financial inducement, then the issue of legality comes in.

lansile:
Do you think this is what Nigeria government can influence? He is guilt of organ harvesting and deserves to face the wrath of the law. Let Obi go and jail break to free him

According to Ohaneze, "the practice of organ harvest has over the years become a Nigerian provenance and of course it is not viewed as unlawful so long as there is a mutual agreement between the parties involved"
So In effect organ harvesting is not a crime in Nigeria. So this is a case of contextual cultural relativism.

mysticwarrior:
prove it.

Russia already possess the top secret documents the FBI took from Mar a lago. How did the Russians get them

Meanwhile in Russia: Putin's mouthpieces on state TV are taunting America about "Top Secret" documents sought during the raid of Trump's estate, which they claim had to do with the newest nuclear weapons developed by the US and gleefully imply that Moscow already got to see them. pic.twitter.com/hmmphB4Utf

— Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews) August 13, 2022

Trump had five secret meeting with Trump?

Trump had a two hour meeting with Putin in Helsinki in which no US official attended with only an interpreter, and after the meeting, Trump took the notes of the interpreter. Till today no one knew what was discussed.

If any other US official had behaved like that, he would have been prosecuted for espionage.

Even the Israelis stopped sharing sensitive information with Trump for fear of leaking it to Putin. Trump seems to be a Russian agent.

SlyfoxxjReturns:
Bahahaha. Your obsession with Trump is what’s real my love. Your law license is relevant because I want to know the law school that produced such an incompetent lawyer like yourself. I studied business but I’m from a family of lawyers… I’m taking Cambridge and St Andrews educated lawyers, not whatever two-bit law school you obviously went to in the US.

Keep posting pictures of Trump and Epstein not knowing you are proving my own point. If Trump was morally bankrupt for associating with Epstein then why are we to believe this judge, who the DOJ obviously shopped for, is clean and infallible?

You disappoint me sweetheart.

But you have not proven the judge associated with Jeffrey Epstein. What you alleged was that the judge represented an employee of Jeffery Epstein? Are you then insinuating that every one that offer any services to any of Jeffery Epstein's staff, associates and friends must be guilty of association with Jerry Epstein

AmazonTopaz:
What am I hearing?

Espionage

Sound like a James Bond movie. The plot being the president of the US is a Russian agent stealing US nuclear secrets to hand over to Russia. This would put US in grave danger in the event of a nuclear war.

Kennethmgbonyeb:
did you people notice he was reading a written script? The same youths you people doesn't want to give jobs and create good atmosphere for business

He was straining to read the teleprompter.

Abeg make we dance to Tinubu's hit song - Is it for eba, is it for Garri, is it for beans and dodo?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGfzPJ-HqxU

OLAADEGBU:
Trump should have hidden the 'truth' with Hunter Biden where it would be safe from FBI.

Quit that nonsense. Hunter hidden was never a government official. If he commited any crime at all, they would be in his personal capacity and not official crimes.

Hunter alleged crimes cannot excuse Trump's alleged crimes. The legal system does not work that way. Religious legal system might but not secular civil system.

Obrigardo:
I was talking about Republicans and not the justice Department. The Republicans are criticising the AG for searching Trump's home over a few "documents" taken by Trump

Mini wetin? I'll advise you dig into current info before any arm chair analysis. And Nixon was prosecuted but pardoned by his VP who later became Prez, Gerald Ford. Rich people do go to jail in the USA but insinuating that somehow the American Institutions were setup to shield the rich from prosecution is not at all right.

I was talking about Republicans and not the justice Department. The Republicans are criticising the AG for searching Trump's home over a few "documents" taken by Trump

I might have been too extreme to insinuate that the US legal system shield the rich, but you know that the US system is more lenient on the powerful and non coloured.

The thought that Trump kept classified nuclear documents in his home is scary. It could be turn over or sold to US adversaries like China and Russia.

If this is proven true, this would be by far the most serious crime of Trump that borders on espionage against the US or even Treason.

budaatum:
Don't you hear him whining for being got?

I do not believe the law will allow itself to be intimidated by 72 million maga voters. All the cases drumptght has in courts show me they are not intimidated by him nor by them.

The US legal system just like the Nigetian legal system is intimidated by power. The more powerful you are politically or economically, the more you are shielded from the law. In Nigeria a poor man caught stealing a phone will be sentenced to many years in prison without the option of a fine. A rich powerful politician or businessman that steals billions will only be fined a few million naira or at worst a few months in prison. No Nigerian former president can be investigated not to talk of prosecuted no matter his crimes. Same in the US, no former US president had ever been prosecuted. Trump might be the first given the number and seriousness of his alleged crimes.

Hillary Clinton was hounded for months because she used a private email server to conduct official business. The Republicans led senate carrying out many investigations on hillary because of email's which were not proven to contain classified materials. But they are now minimising actual classified documents stolen by Trump and stored in his home.

Obrigardo:
I would say Al capone was more dealier than Criminal trump. It saddens me that the crimes criminal trump is being hounded for are the most stupid crimes, and not (yet) rackteering and murder

Attempting to illegally stay in power through unconstitutional means is a serious crime. Not forgetting putting the lives of the Vice President and members of Congress lives in danger.

budaatum:
The FBI did not back off for Capone with all his guns and all so I doubt they'd back up for drumpthgp.

Al Capone did not have 72 million voters to support him. Al Capone did not have presidential powers and Al Capone is not the leading candidate for an upcoming election.

Obrigardo:
They will be put down and prosecuted. Always.

It will not be that easy. They have millions of supporters, some of whom are prepared to die for Trump. And there are also well organized militia groups "standing down" ready to cause mayhem on orders.

AmazonTopaz:
2016 will continue to haunt them.
The authorities are not stupid Trump should answer if any and a fringe minority cannot dictate for the majority.

Maybe now Trumpism will be dealt with

For US to make any progress Trumpism or rather reformed McCarthism would have to be confronted head long. Which would definitely result in a violent uprising or possibly civil war. The democrats and the real Republicans seem too scared to confront it headlong. They are just allowing it to grow until it will consume the nation.
Trump is ready to bring the US to its knees to avoid prosecution for any of his numerous alleged crimes.

I see the US slowly edging towards a civil war or a serious civil unrest, particularly because of Donald Trump. Attempt to make him answer directly for any of the numerous crimes he is accused of including the coup attempt of January 6 will lead to serious response from his cult followers and the Republican Party that is scared stiff of him.

Just look at the video ge released after the FBI search of his home and office;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk94EKBWZJA
It's certainly to sensitize and galvanise his followers not just for political purposes but also for possible violent responses. I see it as a warning to the FBI and the Justice Department to back off. Remember there are lots of militia groups (patriots) ready to fight for trump. It might be bloody.

Trump and his supporters are trying to undermine the FBI, the Justic Department, the Justice system, the electoral system, the press, even the military. Every American institution is being systematically undermined by the Trump and the Republican party. Its only a matter of time before confidence in US institutions collapse altogether.

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Murphyenemuwe:
Yes the federal capital just like the first picture below. Saying Tinubu isn't pivotal to the modern day Lagos is the highest level of hypocrisy I've seen.

So it was Tinubu that built the Oshodi Bus Terminal? Tinubu that left in 2007 came to be responsible for a bus terminal that was started in 2016 by Governor Ambode and completed in 2020. That means all projects by Fashola, Ambode, Sanwo-Olu and subsequent APC governors till eternity should be credited to Tinubu.

Murphyenemuwe:
It was far less than 500 million. Why are you guys this ridiculous. You have data to spew trash here but can't google simple information. Loud and empty set of youths

Why not do us a favour and post the link to your data. All you do is pull out ridiculous figures from nowhere to lionize Tinubu.

Here is my own link to support my own claim - https://guardian.ng/opinion/igr-why-lagos-leads/

Oya, counter it with your own claims.

Perfectbeing:
You ended up saying nothing.
Lagos as the commercial capital was generating a meagre sum of N600 million monthly before Tinubu and before he left Lagos was generating to 45-50 billion monthly. Whether it was through PAYE, Direct Assessment, Road Taxes and revenues from Ministries, Departments and Agencies (MDA)s etc is another story entirely. What we know is that he was able to increase the IGR by a large scale.

If I was to choose between a manager that did that for my company or a manager that saves while my bankers and cleaners went on strike for 13 whooping months, I will definitely choose the former.

You guys are just employing lies and half truths to justify your dietification of Bola Tinubu. Lagos IGR as to when Tinubu took over in 1999 was not N600 million but about N1.1 billion, then the IGR when Tinubu was leaving in 2007 was about N7 billion and not 45-50 billion.

As I said and as you failed to acknowledge, Tinubu did put any infrastructure in place that led to the increase in IGR. He only became more aggressive in the collection of taxes and revenues which that were the result of commercial activities before he became governor. Lagos already have the 2 major ports in the Country, the major airport and all major national and international companies were domiciled in Lagos. Over the years insecuries in other regions of Nigeria made more companies locate to Lagos. With the location of Dangote Refinery to Lagos, the IGR is set to even increase further. These were not caused by Tinubu.