Foreign Affairs › Re: Hamas In SA: "Israel Has Destroyed The Two-state Solution" (PIX) by XAUBulls: 8:01pm On Dec 01, 2023*. Modified: 10:42pm On Dec 01, 2023 |
WannaHowzit: Indeed 💯💯💯. They supported the oppression of blacks in SA during apartheid - and doing the same in Israel. White worshippers are crying over kidnapped jewish kids - how many Palestinian kids does Israel have in its jails over the decades charged for "terrorism" because they threw stones? Kids. Very similar to 1976 Soweto uprising when whites shot dead school kids for protesting against learning in Afrikaans. Regardless of what the Israelis did during apartheid and which I'm fully aware of haven been old enough then, the Arab Muslims too have been major oppressors of Black/Brown-skinned color for centuries and even till the current times, the Arab Muslims derisively refer (offline and online) to people of African descent South of the Sahara and in the Diapora as "abe*d" which is an irresponsible racist slur meaning slaves. So both Jews and Arabs have narcissists and racists in their midst spewing out institutionalized ethnic slurs. I have a rather blase attitude towards these Asiatic folks... Though I empathized with the Israelis because of the October 7, 2023 killings of innocent Israelis (and Thai citizens working in Southern Israel) as captured by CCTVs, car dashboard cameras, and mobile phones. These images of Hamas' criminal and evil acts have been uploaded online and especially on YouTube for posterity sake. Read up on Arab racism in the Sudan and elsewhere in the Arab world were modern slavery is still practiced. Further reading:1] "Racism In Sudan" https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-53147864.amp2] "Arabs and the Mortal Hatred and Enslavement of the Black Race" https://saharareporters.com/2009/11/14/arabs%25E2%2580%2599-mortal-hatred-and-enslavement-black-race |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Hamas In SA: "Israel Has Destroyed The Two-state Solution" (PIX) by XAUBulls: 7:51pm On Dec 01, 2023 |
WannaHowzit: There needs to be another solution to end the violence in Gaza, as the two-state solution is no longer viable. This was according to Hamas officials in a press conference on Wednesday night.
Members of the media heard from Hamas representative based in Iran, Khaled Qaddoumi, and senior Hamas official and former Gaza health minister, Basem Naim at a media conference in Imam Haron Hall in Cape Town, South Africa.
Qaddoumi said that as it stands, there is “one Israeli state,” adding that the rules are so strict that Israel authorities are not letting Palestinians fish even 10km into the sea.
“The two-state solution and other solutions they are coming up with and the diplomatic actions don’t work. What happens to the children’s dreams? They are not aliens; they are human beings like you and me. The two-state solution is not viable. We need another solution,” said Qaddoumi.
“What happens to the dreams of the Palestinian children? They are not aliens; they are human beings like you and me. The message from the global community to Palestine is to go and die.”
Naim backed this sentiment that the two-state solution is not working.
“The two-state solution has been undermined and destroyed by Israel. If there is a way to achieve long-lasting peace, then sure. But we want the rights of Palestinian people to be realised, and we want the return of Palestinians to their land.
Naim added that the narrative that Hamas attacked civilians at the music festival was fabricated. Naim said while Hamas did in fact initiate an attack on Israel on October 7, he denied targeting civilians; a claim backed by an Israeli newspaper publication.
The Hamas attack on October 7 was an act of defence, said Naim, and stressed this was not the start of the violence.
“The story didn’t start on October 7. It started in 1948, when people were displaced from their homes and massacred. We are calling for the Israeli aggression to stop. We are negotiating for a permanent ceasefire. We are talking about a political conflict, and this political conflict cannot be solved through military tools. We are calling for the Rafah crossing to be opened so 2 million people can have access to food, water, and aid. We call for the lifting of the siege unconditionally. We have committed no sin.”
He said the only “mistake” was electing the resistance into power.
Naim said that while they do appreciate the efforts of the South African government and have highlighted good present and historical ties, the South African government can do more.
“As the late honourable Nelson Mandela said, South African freedom is incomplete without the freedom of the Palestinians. We do appreciate the efforts by the South African government, but we are looking for more pressure on the Israeli government. This means a full boycott and cutting all ties to Israel.” |
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Romance › Re: How I Met My Fiancée by XAUBulls: 4:00pm On Dec 01, 2023 |
realmindz: Short story, I’ll keep it straight and simple
It all started last year November. I was actually in a situationship kind of relationship, and just finished one of those quarrels. So I was bored and was going through instagram, then I saw this ladies comment on one comedy skit. I checked out her profile and I found her so cute. Just my spec. I decided to dm and followed her.
She didn’t respond to my dm, I even commented on her picture to get her attention, still no response from her. So let me call her Lady A.
I was going through her instagram highlights and pix and saw one of her contacts always commenting on each others pictures so I concluded that must be her close friend. They shared each others pictures.
I decided to follow her friend too so I can have a means to reach out to her. So let me call her friend lady B
So I dm lady B and followed her. She responded and I was able to sustain the conversation with her. My plan was to keep talking to her and later tell her I liked her friend, lady A.
But you know something about fate, it works in mysterious way.
As I and lady B kept chatting on and on, we moved to voice call and from voice call to video calls. We spoke at length everyday. My initial plan was abandoned and I was enjoying every bit of my moment with her. She was so lively, lovely, sweet, beautiful smiles and so intelligent.
We decided to meet up… I would say seeing her in person was like the day I knew that would be my wife for sure. She was so much prettier than even online. The connection is so strong.
To summarize the long story, a lot has happened since then. I’ve proposed, she has said yes and we have done introduction.
As we are planning our wedding for November, exactly one year after, while she was beside me with those her beautiful smiles, adorable eye, my mind went back to how it all started. I reflected on how she wasn’t even my target but fate had another plan. I was looking into her eyes and she was smiling and told me to spit out what I was thinking about.
Such is the way of fate, Lady A was never mine, she only led me to my fiancée Lady B… That was indeed a very quirky encounter. |
Romance › Re: Got Married Last Weekend, A New Chapter Started by XAUBulls: 3:46pm On Dec 01, 2023 |
realmindz: This time last year, I didn’t know I’d be married this year. A lot has happened in one year, met my wife in a strange manner, loved her and finally got married to her.
https://www.nairaland.com/7847420/how-met-fiancee
I will like to keep my anonymity so unfortunately no pictures here. But I can give you a good description, she’s the last child and only daughter, so you know how she must have been pampered. Her mum was so emotional and she had tears roll down her cheek on the D-day, it was lovely though to see such wonderful connection.
My wife is tall, ebony and in her early twenties. White sparkling teeth, bright eyes, always smiling. She’s the perfect gift to me. The wedding was simple yet beautiful. I am so fortunate to have her in my life.
And the best gift came after. Let me whisper it (I met her at home, tear rubber)  |
Christianity Etc › Re: I Now See Why Most Women Kick Against DNA Test Anytime Its Being Mentioned. by XAUBulls: 2:14pm On Dec 01, 2023 |
MyVILLAGEpeople: Well you are right. Paternity fraud is on the rise. Indeed... paternity fraud is happening worldwide and on the rise since the 1960s with more freedom granted to women in many societies. But with more awareness by men and with cheaper costs of DNA testing, the women will have NO CHOICE but to become more reliable. All the best! |
Christianity Etc › Re: I Now See Why Most Women Kick Against DNA Test Anytime Its Being Mentioned. by XAUBulls: 2:03pm On Dec 01, 2023 |
MyVILLAGEpeople: Wow interesting. Please who is this billionaire? Okay @MyVILLAGEpeople, I would like to keep his name on the down-low so it doesn't get into the hands of bloggers who like to embellish stories and also I don't want it to re-activate bad memories for him if this post gets indexed in the search engines like Google. But the now elderly man is a Lagos State-based business mogul and industrialist with a chain of industries in Lagos that are into the manufacture of all kinds of plastic wares, modern travel items, massive real estate in Lekki Peninsula, etc. The story was widely reported back in the 1990s in some major newspapers as well so it wasn't based on rumors. In any event, I've given you some clues and it is very important for all men to be on the alert with regards to paternity fraud because it is real especially with all first borns due to the fact that some females have multiple sex partners and hate using protection such as condoms... even in this day and age of Postinor. |
Politics › Re: ‘You Don’t Know History’, Asari-Dokubo Slams Those Saying Binis Founded Lagos by XAUBulls: 1:07pm On Dec 01, 2023*. Modified: 5:57pm On Dec 01, 2023 |
ariesbull: Fatty always putting mouth everywhere !
Very noisy
Eko is a benin word Idumagbo is a Benin word Idumota is a Benin word Obanikoro is a Benin word Oshodi isn't a Yoruba word
[s]Why do people argue a lot! The pointers are there ...Lagos island was founded by Benin folks .... Even the Island king said it years ago [/s]
...but mark my words, they will deflect and leave Oba and bring in Igbo here....
You know Igbo are like gods...they have hands in everything they do Let me come into your convo here. Point of correction: You have to be very careful about falsifying or pushing out wrong information to others on a public forum such as NL. The current Oba Rilwan Akiolu denied ever saying that Lagos Island was founded by the Binis after the fake story went viral on the internet. The Oba of Lagos even stated that anybody who says Lagos is not Yoruba land “must be an IDIOT.” No doubt, he is partly of Yoruba and Bini descent and Isale Eko and indeed the entire Lagos Island was already in existence and settled by the children of Olofin Ogunfunminire who used it as a pepper farm [Eko or Ereko or fully Erekosi in Yoruba].=> https://www.nairaland.com/4141211/anybody-says-lagos-not-yoruba EKO is the shortened form of the Ijebu name EREKO which means farm [Eko Island or Lagos Island was used as a pepper FARM and settlement by Aromire who was one of the children of Olofin of Awori-Yoruba roots whose entourage came to occupy several areas in todays Lagos State from Ile Ife over 700 years ago]. Nobody on Lagos Island knows Eko as a Bini word. So many ignorant people have been getting their incorrect knowledge from Wikipedia. The Ijebus [who are indigenous to Lagos State [Epe LGA, Ikorodu LGA, Ibeju-Lekki LGA, Ajah] and Ogun State] have been an integral part of trading activities for centuries on Eko Island [aka Lagos Island], with the Aworis who are the indigenes and owners of Lagos Island. The Oba lineage on Lagos Island was only given a small part of Lagos Island by Aromire to build the palace or Iga where the current palace is located now. The famous aristocratic IDEJOS [or WHITE CAP CHIEFS] are the REAL owners of Lagos Island lands and beyond into places like Iruland [The original Yoruba name of Victoria Island] because they are the descendants of Olofin who partitioned or shared all the vast lands of Lagos they occupied among all his many children before he passed on. So it is clearly someone who doesn't know the REAL history of the Awori-Yorubas and feeds on false or VANDALIZED INFORMATION on Wikipedia, and other non-credible blogs set up by the younger ones who were born in the late 1980s, 1990s, and 2000s, etc, that would wrongly say otherwise.Second, the Idu prefix is of Bini origin but the suffix " magbo" is of Awori-Yoruba origin. Therefore Idumagbo and Idumota are a fusion of Bini and Yoruba origin. There are many example of words worldwide that are fusions of 2 or more languages. "Idu" just smply means WAY or ROAD. It is just the same way you have some compounds in Asaba bearing the prefix OGBE showing the Bini origins of those compounds [Asaba has Igala roots, and indeed Igalas and Nri migrants also populated Asaba and had their own quarters]. Oba is a Yoruba word and even before the rise of the 3rd Dynasty or the Oduduwa Dynasty in Ife, other ruling dynasties existed there. Obatala was alive before the start of a new dynasty by Oduduwa [Odu du iwa] "Odu + Iwa" [It means "the knowledge of mysteries and it's application to human behavior"]. Odu [knowledge of mysteries] + Iwa [Behavior]. Oshodi is a word that means – "the royal chamberlain" – He is a person who is tasked with the wellbeing of the Oba's [king's] wives. In any event, the Bini royal family incorporated several Yoruba loan words from Ife [which Binis call Uhe] into the royal court language... therefore, many of the words, Bini royal titles and deities have Ife/Yoruba origins. The current Oba of the Bini people himself acknowledged in his coronation day speech in 2016 right in the full presence of the current Ooni of Ife that Oranmiyan his ancestor came from Ife and became the FIRST Oba of Benin, but he didn't stay long, but had a son [Eweka] who went on to become the second Oba from the current Oranmiyan Dynasty. Even the Ogiamhen family have clearly stated severally that the current Oba of Benin has Yoruba origins via the Oranmiyan Dynasty. So, there is NO argument that Yorubas and Bini-Edos share historical links and there were large Yoruba trading communities in Edolands and Bini-Edo trading communities in Yorubaland as well centuries back! BELOW IS AN ADDRESS BY HIS ROYAL HIGHNESS, CROWN PRINCE, (AMBASSADOR) EHENEDEN EREDIAUWA, EDAIKEN N’ USELU ON THE OCCASION OF HIS CORONATION AS THE OBA OF BENIN AT URHOKPOTA, BENIN CITY, ON THE 20TH OCTOBER, 2016. 12. Historians all agree that Oduduwa sent his son Oronmiyan at the request of elders of Benin to return with them as ruler of their realm. Oronmiyan’s stay in Benin may have been short, but before he left, a child was born to him, who was later crowned Oba (King) and is known today as Eweka I. Oronmiyan’s time in Benin, however short lived, he was an Oba; and so, he was the first Oba after the Ogiso dynasty came to an end. He established Obaship in Benin. By implication, the listing of past Obas should therefore begin from Oronmiyan as it is listed in Egharevba’s book – Short History of Benin, making my revered father 39th Oba that reigned in Benin – if the listing is counted from and, should be counted from Oronmiyan.Source: https://www.nairaland.com/3436267/oba-benin-coronation-speech
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Business › Re: Oppenheimer Family Buys GZ, Nigeria’s Top Can-Maker Firm by XAUBulls: 12:29pm On Dec 01, 2023 |
Islie: https://punchng.com/south-african-billionaire-family-buys-nigerias-top-can-maker-firm/?amp That's a strategic international business move from a scion of the Oppenheimer family of SA.On a very serious note, it is highly asinine of some young posters here on this NL thread to be insulting Black SA folks. It is not true that there are no Black South Africa millionaires as well. Yes, there are some of them who troll online and other folks among them do NOT like the relentless immigration into SA, but South Africans generally are jovial and have good things to say about other Africans as long as there is NO condescending attitude towards them like you see here. Period. |
Health › Re: Nigerian Nurse Sacked & Deported From The UK For Praying For Patient by XAUBulls: 7:54pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: I Now See Why Most Women Kick Against DNA Test Anytime Its Being Mentioned. by XAUBulls: 7:11pm On Nov 30, 2023*. Modified: 7:30pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
MyVILLAGEpeople: The audacity for me lol. Just imagine how she's feeling like she did nothing wrong. Lol
I think its high time conducting a DNA test should be made compulsory at the birth of a child.
What's your thoughts my fellow Nlanders. Men are fiercely territorial and aren't mentally and psychology wired to accept a child who genetically and biological does NOT belong to him from a cheating woman. No man in his right senses would normally agree to father the child of another man. Constantly seeing that child would remind him of the betrayal and send strong waves of pain and anger through his body. There's a famous billionaire business mogul and industrialist in Nigeria whose wife had an affair with another man. He found out from the grapevine about the illicit sexual affair, did a DNA test on all his children back in the late 1990s, and the last male child of this woman (who was one of his wives) wasn't his biological. Because of the love he had for the boy, he allowed him to stay in his massive family premises alongside his other step- siblings from the same mother... But the unfaithful wife had to go! The business mogul filed for divorce and married a much younger lady later on who is still with him as of today. |
Travel › Re: Morocco, Nigeria & South Africa Lead African Aviation Rise - Forbes by XAUBulls: 3:34pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
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Food › Re: Lagos Releases 20,000 Bags Of Eko Rice, Pegs 50kg At N43k, 25kg For N22k by XAUBulls: 3:20pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
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Family › Re: Home DNA Test Kit - Is This The Expected “Apocalypse”? by XAUBulls: 3:12pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
julybaba: With the introduction of this test kit, it is now easy to carry out DNA testing from the comfort of your homes.
How many new generations marriages can survive this ?
Do you think this kit should be banned ?  |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Sweden Enters Recession As Inflation Hits Consumers by XAUBulls: 3:02pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
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Foreign Affairs › Re: North Korea Claims Its New Spy Satellite Took Photos Of White House, Pentagon by XAUBulls: 9:27am On Nov 30, 2023 |
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Politics › Re: Just Discovered One Surest Way To Shut Up These Wicked Politicians by XAUBulls: 9:04am On Nov 30, 2023 |
Xwizard: Agreed my brother, remember I said don’t go into livestock farming if you ain’t experienced. but no other way to this, than to start planting am sorry, small garden farming is not for charity but for your household to eat well and never complain, buying 10 pieces of pepper for 1k…….dam is that not a gold in disguised, something you can plant in a sac for house and cancel pepper buying straight. Anyway those who understands my point will start quick. Bro don’t be wary, am typing from a great experience.
You don’t have to pick up a hoe, just get someone usless to supervise it. Your work is only monitoring properly and weeding. That's what is known worldwide as organic urban farming. |
Politics › Re: Just Discovered One Surest Way To Shut Up These Wicked Politicians by XAUBulls: 8:58am On Nov 30, 2023 |
Xwizard: No let me address this, exactly what stopped me from farming last year and ended up wasting the little capital, cos I was scared I could get killed. Anyway this another approach to address insecurities in farms, first start farming from your homes, it’s not a must to locate your small farmland in the tick bush, No cos farming is not lucrative, it’s worth something buying a landing to do is closer proximity where people lives pr just farm from the reach of your house, where you can always visit at least twice weekly. You take your mechanized farming to the bush and get provisions for personal securities, train dogs and be the chairman of your life. Politicians don’t care anymore. Plant at all cost don’t wait till everything burst into flames, they will still escape with private jets. |
Politics › Re: Just Discovered One Surest Way To Shut Up These Wicked Politicians by XAUBulls: 8:57am On Nov 30, 2023 |
Xwizard: One of the tools politicians use to control is hunger, don’t say much it’s a deliberate attempts to keep us on toes and shut the Bleep off. Now I found a way to use that same tools against them. Cos I wonder why border is still closed to us while they monopolize the importations themselves, using forex to scams themselves not us. Lol tho that’s a win win for us tho. I have my plans ready, very soon I will show you all, am getting my facts figures and capital ready for now. ONE SINGLE WAY to win these people is to become a farmer. Lol it’s funny right ? You will all learn the hard way, if you can’t decode why I said we all complaining now, needs to become a farmer of any thing you can plant.
60 millions Nigerians complaining now, should all shut their TVs off for now, get at least a half plot of land, plant cassava, or yam, then pepper and corn on the same parcel, then come back and continue your criticism or grievances to whatever party. Do these monthly if possible, it won’t even take 3days to do it alone without assistance.
Government can’t beat us if we are feeding well without stress, let me give you another bonus, we can also export and make money in dollars, you don’t understand, whatever you plant on that half of land, in just 3days, can buy you a car, if you paid in dollars, with politicians been stupid with the economy, e go just be our gain.
I just decode why they will never hear our pleas, let me give you an hint, you see anytime they swearing them in, there is another room they take these politicians in, where they cut off their both ears, they will never hear our plea. As I was saying, find a way to feed yourself and your family, politicians can stop what you plant from germinating, the economy is not needed. Just a land, what to plant and man power. This is not an information to be kept to my self, Agricultural produces alone can make us the biggest economy in the world, with our land mass, while they (the politicians) keep siphoning the little stipends they see from oil. You need government to extract crude, you don’t need them to plant. Me myself I’ve not started, but I will come back and show you all result. Oooh! Let’s I forget, I can crash the prices of garri and rice, in just 24months both back to 10k per bag. Looool am not joking, in 3mins, i will explain it to you, and you will agree. Israel only plants on rocks, they don’t have lands to plant, but they have one of the biggest tomatoes and fruits. But here we dey use land do sambisa for here.
Anyway shall know you can’t fight these politicians, circle is so wide and filthy to join. You can’t beat them not even a revolution when half the country is hungry. Who wan shout.
We can even monopolize the farm produces to ourselves if we want, so for them to keep controlling us, means they need to crack down agriculture investment by investing in it themselves. What politicians can’t do to keep the poor on toes, I never see. Let make this people, let everyone start planting, start by getting your immediate families what to feed on, then from there move to your localities.
See I can’t explain it all, if you have money, btw 2-5m you can make agriculture your bussines model, stuffs and simple without stress but don’t go into live stock farming for now, for starters just base on cassava only. You're very wise. |
Business › Re: Bank Recapitalisation: Presidency Backs CBN, Investors Rush For Mega-Banks Stock by XAUBulls: 4:23am On Nov 30, 2023 |
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Family › Re: Single Nigerian Ladies In Diaspora, Any Reason Why You Turn Down Our Guys? by XAUBulls: 4:15am On Nov 30, 2023 |
Smile4mee01: I have been abroad for a while now and i am curious to know why some of our ladies decline dating or marrying fellow Nigerians in the diaspora. I have tried to date a few any they are often quick to assume i am after them for their papers while i just prefer my own, someone who understands my culture and where i have come from. Even when i try to date the ones that don't have paper, regular work visa holders like me. They seem to want to be with the guys that have papers.
Also, when i am old, i would like to return to Nigeria. Marrying outside would make that transition very difficult.
I study other races, Immigrant groups from India and Asia. they work together well, and don't have these difficulty.
Should i give up on being with a Nigerian or keep trying ?
Regards. |
Politics › Re: Eko Founders’ Controversy: Academics, Olota, Lagos Chief Tackle Oba Of Benin by XAUBulls: 4:06am On Nov 30, 2023 |
Pristine664: Oba of Benin is a Yoruba man.
Edo people said so.
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Culture › Re: Some Igbo Words In Olaudah Equiano's Autobiography Book by XAUBulls: 1:40am On Nov 30, 2023 |
bigfrancis21: It is highly debatable that you read Olaudah's book in details, for if you did you would rule out any possible Anioma origins of Olaudah. The only reference to Benin by him which makes you draw conclusion to his origins from Anioma is the fact that he cited 'Kingdom of Benin' as being the greater country within which his village, Essaka, was located in. My best guess here is that since Nigeria as a country was not in existence then and the Kingdom of Benin was the major influential area at that time closest enough to his village, he must have cited 'Kingdom of Benin' as a referential geographical marker to pinpoint the location of his village. He went on to say this:
@bold...clearly here, Olaudah confirmed that his very own village was located very far from the Bini kingdom and was barely under any Bini influence and his village elders primarily took care of the village affairs by themselves, which indicates a strong possible Isseke origin in the East, as they were hardly under any Bini influence.
Another pointer to Olaudah's possible origins is the dialect variant of Igbo he used, the word of interest here being 'mgburichi'/'mbrenche'. Ukwuani people primarily speak Enuani Igbo to a large extent, however, two things about the word, 'mbrenche' dismiss any likely Ukwuani origin: the 'r' factor and nasalized 'n' factor in this same word. The 'r' letter is mostly missing in Ukwuani/Enuani and is often replaced with 'l' instead. Any 'r' usage in Ukwuani is recent and as a result of Central Igbo influence. A well-known Ukwuani Igbo author confirms this about Ukwuani alphabet:
The second factor is the nasalized 'n' sound added by the author which indicated a nasalized pronunciation, a feature which is largely absent in Enuani Igbo. Southern Igbo people would pronounce 'ihe' more like 'ihne', ahuhu as 'ahnuhnu' etc. One marked difference between Enuani and Isu (I use this to refer to a collection of Southern Igbo dialects) dialects of Igbo is the obvious lack of nasal sounds in Enuani Igbo, but present in the latter. 'Mgburichi' is more commonly spoken in the southern Igbo areas and also around the Imo-Anambra border. Enuani people, including Ukwuani, would say 'Igbu Ichi' instead, not Mgburichi. 'Mgburichi'/'mgbulichi' in spoken form is largely absent in Enuani Igbo/Ukwuani. The border towns of Imo-Anambra tend to speak a mixture of 'Anambra' and 'Imo' Igbo. Isseke is located right at the Anambra-Imo border and their dialect till today, which is not Enuani, is a mixture of what we would consider 'Anambra' and 'Imo'. There is even a village called, 'Mgbirichi' in Ohaji Egbema LGA of Imo state. I often passed by this area when I served in Ohaji Egbema LGA during my service year many years ago and the natives even pronounce it 'mgbirinchi'!
Enuani Igbo would call year 'aro' and southern Igbo would say 'afo' or 'aho' but Olaudah called it 'afo' instead!
Given the absence of the modern Igbo orthography during his time, Olaudah developed his own Igbo writing system which he used consistently in his write up. Olaudah consistently used the letter 'e' to indicate the 'e' sound as in 'bee'. He spelt Bini as 'Benen', Igbo as 'Eboe', Mgburichi as 'mbrenche' etc. Olaudah used letter 'a' to indicate the 'a' sound (when he spelt 'ede' as 'eada') as in 'away' etc and used 'ah' (when he spelt 'afo' as 'ahfoe') to indicate the 'a' sound as in 'anti'. Going by these, 'Essaka' would clearly be 'Isseke'. 'Ashaka' in Anioma would most likely have been spelt by Olaudah as, 'ah-sha-cah', which clearly he did not spell that way.
Finally, after his capture Olaudah mentioned travelling extensively on land by foot for days/months, hardly meeting any river bodies until he got closer to Bonny where he was sold, strongly ruling out any western Igbo origins because Olaudah would have had to cross the river Niger to get on the eastern flank and continue his journey on land to Bonny. Looking at the map of Nigeria today, the journey from Isseke to Bonny is one primarily on land, devoid of any water bodies but a journey from Ukwuani to Bonny would initially entail crossing the River Niger/Niger Bridge/Ikpele mmili from Delta into Onitsha or by boat/ferry during Olaudah's time.
There's hardly any factual evidence left by Olaudah that points to a Western Igbo/Ukwuani origin or being from Ashaka, other than your personal nuances of 'wanting him to come from your side'. Personally, it does not matter to me where Olaudah came from, be it Ebonyi, Imo, or Delta. He was an Igbo and that is what's more important here. In the field of academia, we must be careful to not mix emotional desires with clearly laid-out facts. Nicely put. |
Culture › Re: My Historical Perspective On Eze Chima And Western Igbos by XAUBulls: 1:27am On Nov 30, 2023 |
samuk: It's almost impossible for you to use your present day observations to explain events of 300 years ago let alone 500 years ago. The world was a complete different place then. Your writeup is ridden with you think, you think....you will probably also think that the present king of England is of English ancestry because he speaks English and he is the king of England. The world doesn't or didn't work like that.
You need to read more and do more research if you really want to learn instead of formulating your own theories using limited knowledge from your today's observations.
In 1875 for example, Samuel Ajayi Crowder visited Asaba and documented that there were large Igbo migrating to Asaba and the indigene were fast loosing their Edo language, although few Edo words were still being used. This is 1875 and you are trying to think and formulate theories about what happened during the reign of Oba Ewuare more than 500 years ago. During the reign of Oba Ewuare, that entire area and beyond were mostly populated by Edo people before they were overwhelmed by other migrants.
The above reference is a eye witness historical account of someone that was on ground in Asaba in 1875 and wrote what he saw, not what he thought. Although you will read Igbo writers that wrote in the 1900s claiming Asaba as original Igbo town.
There are people that still claim Benin ancestry all over the South South to the middle belt, in comparison, Delta North was just another Benin empire towns and villages. The king we now know as Obi of Obolukwu was known in Benin as Ogie Oboro, if the title Obi existed then, Benin would have known and call him Obi Oboro. Perhaps you should ask yourself why the current king of Agbor changed his title from Obi of Agbor to Dein of Agbor and what was the title during Oba Ewuare, 500 years ago. |
Culture › Re: My Historical Perspective On Eze Chima And Western Igbos by XAUBulls: 1:19am On Nov 30, 2023 |
odigbosky: You're one of the few Edo figures I respect here on Nairaland. Been on this platform for over 10 years. I made a post only to share my thoughts. My field in life is in the sciences.
I always believe that no one side has the complete history of the other side. I don't believe the Benins know everything even about people in Etsako land.
Just recently I watched a video on ITV's page on YouTube when the Esogban of Benin was talking about salutations in Benin for different families.
He said his family greets La'uhe in relation to them coming from Uhe.
He said every Iyase of Benin once installed greets Lavbieze...He said the Eze is in relation to Eze Chima. He said Chima was once an Iyasere and he was not from Benin but present day Delta state...
He also said the Ezomo greets Lagiesan because of ties to Esan land.
So I will love you to talk about the greetings of the Iyasere and also the Oriki attached to it.
As for Samuk who questions my Edo blood. I am Edo, proud one for that matter.
Nobody here knows everything or every historical piece. We are all learning. What I shared here was my own thoughts. Nothing else. Insightful. |
Culture › Re: My Historical Perspective On Eze Chima And Western Igbos by XAUBulls: 1:10am On Nov 30, 2023 |
samuk: Bishop Crowder on the Niger mission, 1875, page 538.
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Culture › Re: Are The Idomas Igbos by XAUBulls: 12:03am On Nov 30, 2023 |
tomX1: The village in question is my village. It's name is Owukpa. Its part of the New Ogbadigbo LGA. We even have alot of Igbos livin there but trust me we don't speak Igbo as a primary language. It's a language we learnt from our neigbhours and we use it to comunicate with them and not to ourselves. I speak fluent Hausa but that does not make me hausa. I've started picking up yoruba as well since I live in Lagos.
Everyone should be proud of their tribes but no one should annex another tribe (you guys are not Sadam afterall). That's interesting. |
Culture › Re: Are The Idomas Igbos by XAUBulls: 12:03am On Nov 30, 2023 |
OgidiBoy: This thread brought back old memories. Has anyone here traveled from Jos to Enugu, there is this very small village I don't know the name, but it's just before obolo afo It's in Benue state but the speak Igbo like Nsukka people. My dad would always stop there to get palm wine. He says they have the best palm wine in the whole of Igbo land. |
Culture › Re: Are The Idomas Igbos by XAUBulls: 12:01am On Nov 30, 2023 |
tomX1: Thr Igbos in Rivers State and Delta State still speak Igbo (or at least a semblance of it). There is no distinguishable similarity between the Idoma dialect and that of the Igbo's however. Having some similar names is not a proof of similar ancestry. Tribes can sample names from neighbouring tribrs. There are similiarities between Idoma names and Tiv Names (eg Ako/Akor) and with the Igalas (of present Kogi State) (eg Idoko, Eje). Should all these neighbouring tribes also lay claim to the Idomas? Whatever similarities that can be observed is due to cultural exchange between both tribes. Will it make sense to deem the English as being of French origin because a lot of English words and names have French origins? |
Culture › Re: Are The Idomas Igbos by XAUBulls: 12:00am On Nov 30, 2023 |
tomX1: No the Idomas (from Benue State) are not Igbos. But they share a lot of boundaries though. My village borders one of the towns in old Anambra State (either Obolo-Afo or Obolo-Eke) we have similar market days and some names (like Ada, Onuche, Ede, Eke). There has been a lot of inter tribal marraiges naturaly and inter town trades on market days. But the tribes are different. |
Celebrities › Re: Nigerians Were Not Buying Nollywood Films When Yoruba Was Incharge. Kanayo Kanay by XAUBulls: 10:59pm On Nov 29, 2023*. Modified: 12:21pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
Deco7: You're not old enough to comment on the issue since you're obviously not well informed
We spent money back i the days to watch Pa Ogunde plays, the likes of Jaguar - As far back as the early 80s, Nigerians would spend heavily on cinema tickets to watch Pa Ogunde. I even bought one around 1988 -1990 to watch one of his cinematic movies
People spent heavily on theatres to watch Chinese, Indian and locally made movies.
Even Baba suwe, Aiye akamara was way before 1990. But Living in bondage would trigger a fire that would hit the entire industry, no doubts
Things fall apart was as far back as 80s and core igbo. Everyone had their fair share of things both Yoruba and igbo. Stop all this tribal wars abeg
Only God knows whatever happened to yorubas first omota in movies.
Spark the Killer True that. The first ever home video in Nigeria was "Ekun" in 1988 and it was produced by the iconic Prince Muyideen Aromire. The movie was a huge success as it was also screened simultaneously at the cinemas. Prior to that 1988 event, Yoruba movies and English movies were being shot on celluloid. Many other Yoruba home videos on VHS cassetes were made by people like Prince Jide Kosoko before 1993.The Kanayo Kanayo guy was just a young man living in the Eastern part of Nigeria in the 1980s, so he didn't know what was happening in Lagos State film/movie sector and in other parts of Nigeria where subtitled Yoruba home videos on VHS cassetes were popular. Last but not least, unknown to these ignorant propagandists among the mainly young and older Ibos, Kenneth Nnebue, the producer of that 1993 home video granted a 1998 one-page interview to "This Day" newspaper and he bluntly stated that before 1993, the existing Yoruba movie/home video industry and the Indian movie industry inspired him to go into the home video sector and Kenneth even mentioned over 10 successful Yoruba home videos he could remember offhand that were produced before 1993! He said he worked with the Yoruba movie producers in the packaging of the VHS home videos and understudied the Yoruba movie industry. He even dropped an important information that the 1993 first ever Ibo home video in Nigeria was supposed to have been done in Yoruba language but he took a risk and produced it in Ibo with an English title and it worked because his Ibo kinsmen had been asking him when he would produce an Ibo film like the Yoruba home video industry was doing! So that 1993 home video was not the first in Nigeria. Fortunately, I have a copy of that 1998 This Day newspaper interview and I will release it to the whole world soon so that this persistent and dishonest falsification of the Nigerian movie history by some Ibos online and offline will STOP! I would like that original copy or a copied version of the well-preserved newspaper to be displayed in a museum of art at the National Arts Theater or the new J.K. Randle Yoruba Cultural Centre at Onikan, Lagos, so that it can be preserved because I doubt if anybody has that newspaper copy or interview again. Further Reading:https://www.modernghana.com/amp/nollywood/1368/yoruba-pioneered-films-in-nigeria.htmlCc: @demmie1 |
Politics › Re: National Identification Number (NIN) Tokenization: What You Should Know by XAUBulls: 9:50pm On Nov 29, 2023 |
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