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Are there really gold-filled on AE? I was saw a listing with that description but when I prodded the seller further, he told me it was gold plated. That really put me off the watch thing. Anyone with a link to genuine gold filled should please post it . I'll appreciate it. I have market for it now

mayorall: We are still planning sir/ma. We can even get it cheaper

When the idea solidifies, please remember to contact me. I'm in for 20pcs min.

mayorall: Friends we can import 32GB memory cards at $7 when we buy 100 pieces.


5 people can do this.

We buy at #1,162 * 20 pieces = 23,240

We resell at nothing less than #4,000.

#4,000 * 20 = 80,000.


#80,000 - #23,240 = #56,760 profit for 20 pieces. This selling price is relatively cheap.

Please can you post the link to this? I'm interested

If the escrow committee starts work, State offices will be the next thing. Since goods are sent to different states, a buyer with a genuine complaint will be required to contact the state office within a specified time (let's say 48 hours) after receipt of goods to show that his specifications have not been met. The State office will be required to forward a report to the head office within a specified time on their findings. This way, we protect sellers from dubious buyers. Just a suggestion. Open to modification. Thanks all.

mayorall: That's good boss. Escrow community, please shed more lights.

First we need a CAC registration. We could have a company like ESCROW PAYMENT NIG. LTD. Let all interested importers buy shares in the company. This may be just N2500 only for 200 members. Money realised will be used to rent a small office and do registration to aid bank account opening. Members using Escrow payment system will be charged certain p[percentage of the cost value of their goods.

I think the situation can be remedied thus. Let us set up an escrow committee. Let any buyer pay to the escrow account. When he receives the goods and is satisfied, the money is released to seller. Let the onus be on the buyer to prove that he is not satisfied with the purchase. The committee should be made up of five members of nairaland nominated by all on this thread. I nominate as follows: Mayorall, Surveycash, etc etc
An account will be opened in a bank with the three of the five as signatories. Let's have your opinion

I have always admired the Igbo people. Unlike my Yoruba people, Igbos are very good at passing on their language and traditions to their children wherever they live. Hardly can you see an Igbo child who will not understand and speak the language at age 6. Not like the Yorubas who view speaking Yoruba as a sign of backwardness. We sure have a lot to learn from the Igbos on this and other issues.

bastrin: He seeks cheap publicity..

Not at all. Predient Jonathan desreves what he got from the Pastor. Why send a whole cow to one man when he could have given several chickens to many homeless destitutes in our streets? Jonathan himself was seeking cheap publicity.

femi9naija: Pls who has ordered through circuitatlantic.com recently? having issues with adding shipping address on their site. mailed them like 3ce, the MoFos didn't even bothered replying.
or who can help on shipping via ebay, amazon and other American sites that their minimum order won't be $100. Thanks.

Try oandogadgetsdotcom. They are very reliable and handle any order from $1 upwards

Akshow: My God my God. Heavenly father, I pray to u o Lord. Hear my prayers and deliver my people from mental colonial slavery. Enough of copy copy Baby shower, bridal shower, thanks giving and halloween, by my people. My Father my Father make ur children see good in themselves and remove evry spirit of inferiority complex from my people. All this I ask tru Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen.

You sef na baba of copy copy. Jesus Christ na wetin your baba baba dem dey pray to? Why you no say All this you ask in Ogun or Sango or Amadioha's name? Lol. I dey laugh vernacularly oooo. Well Amen to your prayers.

He who has ears let him hear what the spirit says unto the churches

Please patiently read through this and you will see why Catholics will continue to celebrate Christmas.

I. When was Jesus born?

A. Popular myth puts his birth on December 25th in the year 1 C.E.

B. The New Testament gives no date or year for Jesus’ birth. The earliest gospel – St. Mark’s, written about 65 CE – begins with the baptism of an adult Jesus. This suggests that the earliest Christians lacked interest in or knowledge of Jesus’ birthdate.

C. The year of Jesus birth was determined by Dionysius Exiguus, a Scythian monk, “abbot of a Roman monastery. His calculation went as follows:

a. In the Roman, pre-Christian era, years were counted from ab urbe condita (“the founding of the City” [Rome]). Thus 1 AUC signifies the year Rome was founded, 5 AUC signifies the 5th year of Rome’s reign, etc.

b. Dionysius received a tradition that the Roman emperor Augustus reigned 43 years, and was followed by the emperor Tiberius.

c. Luke 3:1,23 indicates that when Jesus turned 30 years old, it was the 15th year of Tiberius reign.

d. If Jesus was 30 years old in Tiberius’ reign, then he lived 15 years under Augustus (placing Jesus birth in Augustus’ 28th year of reign).

e. Augustus took power in 727 AUC. Therefore, Dionysius put Jesus birth in 754 AUC.

f. However, Luke 1:5 places Jesus’ birth in the days of Herod, and Herod died in 750 AUC – four years before the year in which Dionysius places Jesus birth.

D. Joseph A. Fitzmyer – Professor Emeritus of Biblical Studies at the Catholic University of America, member of the Pontifical Biblical Commission, and former president of the Catholic Biblical Association – writing in the Catholic Church’s official commentary on the New Testament[1], writes about the date of Jesus’ birth, “Though the year [of Jesus birth is not reckoned with certainty, the birth did not occur in AD 1. The Christian era, supposed to have its starting point in the year of Jesus birth, is based on a miscalculation introduced ca. 533 by Dionysius Exiguus.”

E. The DePascha Computus, an anonymous document believed to have been written in North Africa around 243 CE, placed Jesus birth on March 28. Clement, a bishop of Alexandria (d. ca. 215 CE), thought Jesus was born on November 18. Based on historical records, Fitzmyer guesses that Jesus birth occurred on September 11, 3 BCE.



II. How Did Christmas Come to Be Celebrated on December 25?

A. Roman pagans first introduced the holiday of Saturnalia, a week long period of lawlessness celebrated between December 17-25. During this period, Roman courts were closed, and Roman law dictated that no one could be punished for damaging property or injuring people during the weeklong celebration. The festival began when Roman authorities chose “an enemy of the Roman people” to represent the “Lord of Misrule.” Each Roman community selected a victim whom they forced to indulge in food and other physical pleasures throughout the week. At the festival’s conclusion, December 25th, Roman authorities believed they were destroying the forces of darkness by brutally murdering this innocent man or woman.

B. The ancient Greek writer poet and historian Lucian (in his dialogue entitled Saturnalia) describes the festival’s observance in his time. In addition to human sacrifice, he mentions these customs: widespread intoxication; going from house to house while singing naked; rape and other sexual license; and consuming human-shaped biscuits (still produced in some English and most German bakeries during the Christmas season).

C. In the 4th century CE, Christianity imported the Saturnalia festival hoping to take the pagan masses in with it. Christian leaders succeeded in converting to Christianity large numbers of pagans by promising them that they could continue to celebrate the Saturnalia as Christians.[2]

D. The problem was that there was nothing intrinsically Christian about Saturnalia. To remedy this, these Christian leaders named Saturnalia’s concluding day, December 25th, to be Jesus’ birthday.

E. Christians had little success, however, refining the practices of Saturnalia. As Stephen Nissenbaum, professor history at the University of Massachussetts, Amherst, writes, “In return for ensuring massive observance of the anniversary of the Savior’s birth by assigning it to this resonant date, the Church for its part tacitly agreed to allow the holiday to be celebrated more or less the way it had always been.” The earliest Christmas holidays were celebrated by drinking, sexual indulgence, singing naked in the streets (a precursor of modern caroling), etc.

F. The Reverend Increase Mather of Boston observed in 1687 that “the early Christians who first observed the Nativity on December 25 did not do so thinking that Christ was born in that Month, but because the Heathens’ Saturnalia was at that time kept in Rome, and they were willing to have those Pagan Holidays metamorphosed into Christian ones.”[3] Because of its known pagan origin, Christmas was banned by the Puritans and its observance was illegal in Massachusetts between 1659 and 1681.[4] However, Christmas was and still is celebrated by most Christians.

G. Some of the most depraved customs of the Saturnalia carnival were intentionally revived by the Catholic Church in 1466 when Pope Paul II, for the amusement of his Roman citizens, forced Jews to race naked through the streets of the city. An eyewitness account reports, “Before they were to run, the Jews were richly fed, so as to make the race more difficult for them and at the same time more amusing for spectators. They ran… amid Rome’s taunting shrieks and peals of laughter, while the Holy Father stood upon a richly ornamented balcony and laughed heartily.”[5]

H. As part of the Saturnalia carnival throughout the 18th and 19th centuries CE, rabbis of the ghetto in Rome were forced to wear clownish outfits and march through the city streets to the jeers of the crowd, pelted by a variety of missiles. When the Jewish community of Rome sent a petition in1836 to Pope Gregory XVI begging him to stop the annual Saturnalia abuse of the Jewish community, he responded, “It is not opportune to make any innovation.”[6] On December 25, 1881, Christian leaders whipped the Polish masses into Antisemitic frenzies that led to riots across the country. In Warsaw 12 Jews were brutally murdered, huge numbers maimed, and many Jewish women were raped. Two million rubles worth of property was destroyed.



III. The Origins of Christmas Customs

A. The Origin of Christmas Tree
Just as early Christians recruited Roman pagans by associating Christmas with the Saturnalia, so too worshippers of the Asheira cult and its offshoots were recruited by the Church sanctioning “Christmas Trees”.[7] Pagans had long worshipped trees in the forest, or brought them into their homes and decorated them, and this observance was adopted and painted with a Christian veneer by the Church.

B. The Origin of Mistletoe
Norse mythology recounts how the god Balder was killed using a mistletoe arrow by his rival god Hoder while fighting for the female Nanna. Druid rituals use mistletoe to poison their human sacrificial victim.[8] The Christian custom of “kissing under the mistletoe” is a later synthesis of the sexual license of Saturnalia with the Druidic sacrificial cult.[9]

C. The Origin of Christmas Presents
In pre-Christian Rome, the emperors compelled their most despised citizens to bring offerings and gifts during the Saturnalia (in December) and Kalends (in January). Later, this ritual expanded to include gift-giving among the general populace. The Catholic Church gave this custom a Christian flavor by re-rooting it in the supposed gift-giving of Saint Nicholas (see below).[10]

D. The Origin of Santa Claus

a. Nicholas was born in Parara, Turkey in 270 CE and later became Bishop of Myra. He died in 345 CE on December 6th. He was only named a saint in the 19th century.

b. Nicholas was among the most senior bishops who convened the Council of Nicaea in 325 CE and created the New Testament. The text they produced portrayed Jews as “the children of the devil”[11] who sentenced Jesus to death.

c. In 1087, a group of sailors who idolized Nicholas moved his bones from Turkey to a sanctuary in Bari, Italy. There Nicholas supplanted a female boon-giving deity called The Grandmother, or Pasqua Epiphania, who used to fill the children's stockings with her gifts. The Grandmother was ousted from her shrine at Bari, which became the center of the Nicholas cult. Members of this group gave each other gifts during a pageant they conducted annually on the anniversary of Nicholas’ death, December 6.

d. The Nicholas cult spread north until it was adopted by German and Celtic pagans. These groups worshipped a pantheon led by Woden –their chief god and the father of Thor, Balder, and Tiw. Woden had a long, white beard and rode a horse through the heavens one evening each Autumn. When Nicholas merged with Woden, he shed his Mediterranean appearance, grew a beard, mounted a flying horse, rescheduled his flight for December, and donned heavy winter clothing.

e. In a bid for pagan adherents in Northern Europe, the Catholic Church adopted the Nicholas cult and taught that he did (and they should) distribute gifts on December 25th instead of December 6th.

f. In 1809, the novelist Washington Irving (most famous his The Legend of Sleepy Hollow and Rip Van Winkle) wrote a satire of Dutch culture entitled Knickerbocker History. The satire refers several times to the white bearded, flying-horse riding Saint Nicholas using his Dutch name, Santa Claus.

g. Dr. Clement Moore, a professor at Union Seminary, read Knickerbocker History, and in 1822 he published a poem based on the character Santa Claus: “Twas the night before Christmas, when all through the house, not a creature was stirring, not even a mouse. The stockings were hung by the chimney with care, in the hope that Saint Nicholas soon would be there…” Moore innovated by portraying a Santa with eight reindeer who descended through chimneys.

h. The Bavarian illustrator Thomas Nast almost completed the modern picture of Santa Claus. From 1862 through 1886, based on Moore’s poem, Nast drew more than 2,200 cartoon images of Santa for Harper’s Weekly. Before Nast, Saint Nicholas had been pictured as everything from a stern looking bishop to a gnome-like figure in a frock. Nast also gave Santa a home at the North Pole, his workshop filled with elves, and his list of the good and bad children of the world. All Santa was missing was his red outfit.

i. In 1931, the Coca Cola Corporation contracted the Swedish commercial artist Haddon Sundblom to create a coke-drinking Santa. Sundblom modeled his Santa on his friend Lou Prentice, chosen for his cheerful, chubby face. The corporation insisted that Santa’s fur-trimmed suit be bright, Coca Cola red. And Santa was born – a blend of Christian crusader, pagan god, and commercial idol.



IV. The Christmas Challenge

· Christmas has always been a holiday celebrated carelessly. For millennia, pagans, Christians, and even Jews have been swept away in the season’s festivities, and very few people ever pause to consider the celebration’s intrinsic meaning, history, or origins.

· Christmas celebrates the birth of the Christian god who came to rescue mankind from the “curse of the Torah.” It is a 24-hour declaration that Judaism is no longer valid.

· Christmas is a lie. There is no Christian church with a tradition that Jesus was really born on December 25th.

· December 25 is a day on which Jews have been shamed, tortured, and murdered.

· Many of the most popular Christmas customs – including Christmas trees, mistletoe, Christmas presents, and Santa Claus – are modern incarnations of the most depraved pagan rituals ever practiced on earth.



Many who are excitedly preparing for their Christmas celebrations would prefer not knowing about the holiday’s real significance. If they do know the history, they often object that their celebration has nothing to do with the holiday’s monstrous history and meaning. “We are just having fun.”

Imagine that between 1933-45, the Nazi regime celebrated Adolf Hitler’s birthday – April 20 – as a holiday. Imagine that they named the day, “Hitlerday,” and observed the day with feasting, drunkenness, gift-giving, and various pagan practices. Imagine that on that day, Jews were historically subject to perverse tortures and abuse, and that this continued for centuries.

Now, imagine that your great-great-great-grandchildren were about to celebrate Hitlerday. April 20th arrived. They had long forgotten about Auschwitz and Bergen Belsen. They had never heard of gas chambers or death marches. They had purchased champagne and caviar, and were about to begin the party, when someone reminded them of the day’s real history and their ancestors’ agony. Imagine that they initially objected, “We aren’t celebrating the Holocaust; we’re just having a little Hitlerday party.” If you could travel forward in time and meet them; if you could say a few words to them, what would you advise them to do on Hitlerday?

On December 25, 1941, Julius Streicher, one of the most vicious of Hitler’s assistants, celebrated Christmas by penning the following editorial in his rabidly Antisemitic newspaper, Der Stuermer:

If one really wants to put an end to the continued prospering of this curse from heaven that is the Jewish blood, there is only one way to do it: to eradicate this people, this Satan’s son, root and branch.

It was an appropriate thought for the day. This Christmas, how will we celebrate?

AUTHOR: LAWRENCE KELEMEN

http://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/Christmas_TheRealStory.htm

Can you help me get a bb from cellularcountry?

Try wwwdotsmslive247dotcom.

olas24u: http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/obasanjos-letter-to-jonathan-before-it-is-too-late/167193/

Thanx. God bless you real good.

gedtalks: whenever you want an information which is available online, just type the title of the information you need in google search engine and you'll most likely find it. For eg. Go to www.google.com , the type ''Obasanjo's letter to Jonathan''

Thanks. But I'm not a novice. I tried google, I could find the full text of the letter. That was why I requested assistance from othersa who might have the information. Actually I was offline during the period the news of the letter broke, otherwise I would have read it. Please if you know the link to the full text, post it. Thanks once again

olas24u: Are you joking?

What is funny about it? If you know the nairaland link, let me have it.

Someone should please help me with a link to this letter. I've read Iyabo's letter and Jonathan's response but I cannot get Obasanjo's letter. I've spent about 3 hours searching. Somebody please help. God bless you as you do.

The Deji of Akure has joined his ancestors. MArkets in the town will remain close until a reagent or a new king is installed. RIP to the dead and for the traders, what had luck in this season.

mayorall: Early next month sir.

Thanx for the response, but how do I get in?

Hello there. I am Administrator of a school located in Ekiti State. We are in the process of roofing our new Academic block. We need quotations from companies in the Aluminium Roofing Business. Find attached details. Forward your quotation to christfieldschool@hotmail.com on or before 3rd December, 2013

@Mayorall

When is your next order? I want to be on it.

neupert: ok, ASAP

I'm still waiting for your response, please.

I need a 12cell battery for my laptop: hp g60-235dx. How much if you have one? Pls mail me at christfieldschool@yahoo.com

shakol91: . Xup broda,gud am. I live in Ado Ekiti (ologede side, along ikere road). Hope to meet you,well am still a learner sha,but with d help of God and Oga Bello, I will place my order very soon.

Let's hook up. I commute through your area every morning and noon. Contact me via the email add on my profile

bhidex007: Jst joining the thread. This is Bhidex from Ekiti State. I want 2 be a great importer..any helper in the house

Where are u in Ekiti State? I am in Ado Ekiti. I can mentor you. Contact me via the e-mail in my profile

shakol91: gud pm 2 everybody,thank God and thank u (Oga Bello) and other members. My account has been credited this afternoon and I'm happy to tell you that I will start business by God's grace very soon. Really happy now

Are you based in Ado Ekiti? I am too. I think we can hook up. I stay around Housing, Afao Road.

Promhize: Bro, I sent u a nairaland mail, pls reply.

Ps forward mail to christfieldschool@hotmail.com

dasanchez1: pls reply

I really don't know if cowboom accept mastercard or not. I used a third party for my own transaction.

dailydolar: pls can u do a small tutorial ion how to buy from cowboom n oadnogadgets for us here

Its simple buying from OandO gadgets. Simply go online and get any US site where you wish to buy from. Send the link to the product to them. They will take it up from there. First they'll give you a bill to cover the cost and shipping down to Nigeria. You go to the bank to pay 70%. Once you pay, send them a notification e-mail. They will purchase your item instantly. When it gets to Nigeria, they will send you an e-mail to that effect. If you wish, you can go to their office to pick it or have them send it to you. You will pay N1000 for that within Lagos, but if outside Lagos, you may pay more. The good thing about them is that they can recommend a different site other than the one you wish to buy from if they think you can get a better product or a cheaper one from the site.

NOTE: I do not work for OandO and neither am I their agent. Please do your personal due diligence. I knew all these by doing business with them. They have a site that contains all their contact details. Visit their website and send them e-mails or call them on phone. That way, you will get first hand information. Should you still have further questions, please feel free to contact me on this thread. After all, that is why we are all here to help one another.

dailydolar: did u bid on cowboom? or u jus buy direct ?

No I did not bid. I got OandO gadgets to get it for me. Same for my purchases on Amazon. They've been doing it for me for a long time. I've also used CA in the past.

Promhize: What is wrong with this one, are you drunk, how is it the same.

Bia, enemy of progress just mind yourself, what nonsense Is something wrong with you, I want anybody to check and see if there's any similarity.
I'm trying to keep it cool but you are very stu.pid. Is it because I deleted my posts?

That guy has even been on nairaland far before me, if you were not too lazy to go through his topics and posts and go through mine, you'd see that he's either a teacher or principal in ekiti or ogun, I stay in lagos, school in Ife (staunch hater of ASUU), he's Yoruba, I'm igbo.

I'm only replying you so you don't mislead people (cos someone has already liked your post). You guys like to think you are smart, when you are actually stu.pid.

I hope the other guy also replies you.

My brother, I had not read your post when I responded to this funny allegation. But I've sent him a response to show him he was mistaken. I'm really surprised that most people do not think very well before posting on Nairaland. But I put it all to the fact that these are young and mostly unemployed or underemployed youth suffering from youthful exuberance. The other time, I posted an advert in the Job/Vacancy section and a young girl (for that is what she is), much younger than my first daughter, called me a scammer. I had to visit everyone of the threads she posted in before she retracted her libelous statements. People are taking the liberty of online forums to insult others. That is not just fair. We must always do a thorough investigation before posting any allegation capable of tarnishing other people's image. I rest my case.