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wait o! is d cypher thing a free style event?? otherwise there's no need for the wackness xhibited by some.

@ poster- the track -more you by BEZ is by far better than me and you by bracket. Listen to d song, watch the video and feel it. And since it came out this year, it qualifies to compete.

^^dont get me wrong, I don't judge it as a proper rap album cos its definitely pop. And dats d same pattern mi2 and jag of all tradez took. Its d trend now cos d real rap genre is not developed enuff for an artist to base his career upon and chocolate city doesn't wanna take chances.I enjoyd d album cos I got wat I xpectd which was d same thing naeto c did. Only modenine can get away with makin a thorough rap album wit a level of commercial success cos he's lyrically d king. So basically these classic r far and few in btw these dayz so am havin 2 make do. I agree it was lyrically average but u can't deny dat ice knows hw to ride a beat very well and his flow pattern is tight. Plus he remained consistent with his album them which was basically his struggle against d odds.

^^^i hear u, d beat is not important, go jam modenine acapella na!

Naija fans na wa for una o! All of a sudden nobody is good enuff anymore for u guys?? I c a pattern here dat once u bcome popular then u bcome listed on d black books of these minority groupies. Haba! Mi2, sinzu, wizkid, jagz, 9ice's tradition, c-season, etc and now eli r not good enuuf. I really wonder where this new academy standard for judging albums came from.
Well as for me , d album is very good. Its an album u'l listen to over a long period of time. I have 2 say wat impressd me d most was his daring approach to have d album b about him. By this I mean he could have taken d safe option of usin choc city's connection to feature all d naija heavy weights all over d album, but he chose not to. 2face is d only heavy weight in there as mi and jargo inputs were expectd.
Didn't c any female in there as well which was suprisin too.
My fav's r juju, see myself, wasup wasup, end of discussion, and definitely dat nigga. I also loved thank u especially d jesse jagz verse(dude's amazing)
17 tracks is plenty sha but since am not skippin too many tracks, then no wahala.
The flaw for me here is maintaining lyrical dept over d lenght of d album but then again he doesn't have to as most artist now reserve dat for mixtapes but glimpses shown on d track morell confirms his talent. And finally his strongest point is his versatility. He is rarely left wanting when there's a need to switch styles.
Basically d guy try

Datt jam too much

1-dark knight
2-terminator 2
3-braveheart
4-memento
5-arlington road
6-rango
7-kingdom of heaven
8-black hawk down
9-saving private ryan
10-nottin hill

Anybody who can't pay 150 for a cd is nothing but a lowlife dat should be banned from world music!!! 150 Chei pple are wicked and after they say our politicians r d problem

@ lalaboi
leave am for me, i want him to finish fooling himself b4 i finish with him. its posts like this dat have turned nairaland into joke @ times.

y dont u firstly list song produced by two of them so we can judge

@ baslone
Let me break it down for u further. In certain areas, u hv pple living in uncompleted buildings. They know its just of time b4 d owners come to eject them, and yet some of them go as far as putting windows, tiles and even painting it. All is is dat so dat while they stay there, they enjoy their stay untill d owners come. This was further butressed by fergie when he finally released ronaldo. He said players from iberia(spain and portugal) and overseas don't usually stay outside their homezones forever and go back rather quickly and dat he was lucky to have had him as a player for dat long. So all dat talk from cesc hailing wenger for his impact in his life is true, he was also being mature and diplomatic cos his relationship with arsenal was vice versa cos while arsenal nutured him, he also served them dishin out countless memorable games which entertained them all d way from highbury to emirates so he also played his part. So unlike fergie who know when to act and avoid too much drama, wenger once again went aloof

daniel craig to me was d best cos of his realistic portrayal of wat a secret agent should like like. pierce brosnan was too fake and made bond movies feel like disney cartoons. i could stand his latter movies sef. to me it was just like inspector gadget the movie.
daniel craig had me watching bond again. with him, u'l know the spy world is serious business.

i think its fair to assume, we've seen d last of d super hero installments. viz: captain america, x men first class, green lanten and thor. i want u guys to arrange them from ur first to last. here goes:
1-thor: i didnt think they could pull it off but they did. a major advantage for it was it was devoid of all dat story telling about origin which is tiresome. they jumped straight into thor as we know him fron d very first scene plus it was funny as well. very good movie with spot on casting of actors(grade-4/5)
2- x men first class: nice fun movie. but unlike tiresome origin movies dat tell us wat we already know, this one actually clarified things for us. also d introduction of previously unknown xters was refreshing. magneto and azazel were terrific. d strongest point for this movie was hw there were able to understand y all parties inolved do wat they do. its not about good abd evil but more about differing points of views with dire consequences(grade-3.5/5)
2-yes this ties for second with x men cos i cudnt seperate them. i really liked this movies cos of two things: one simplicity in telling d story in a good old fashion way and hw they were able to evolve his costume into a blievable outfit. i also loved d 1960's setting. it was a refreshing departure from over the top morden day settings and d casting of tommy lee jones and chris evans was perfect. one flaw for me hwever was d fight scenes, there wasnt any memorable scenes to stay with u after d movie. overall was a solid movie(grade 3.5/5)
4-green lantern: all i can say is dc should wake up as batman cannot keep savin them. (grade 3/5)

@ baslone
fair point, but only if u r telling me he needed money from d sale of cesc to buy arteta which is not true cos his chairman kept sayin all along dat d club had money to spend.
whether he went early or late, d point is was gonna go so y not get his replacement even while he was still @ d club while still holdin out for d best price possible as he did.
city for example cudnt sell tevez dis window cos they were holding out for a good offer but still brought in aguero early cos they knew he was gonna leave either way.

for all u arsenal followers, everything dat happened was wenger's fault. let me break it down for u:
1-he knew cesc was finally going to leave this season cos his was a sensational story of an adopted kid who grew and started asking for his father who was very wealthy. wenger knew since last season he wud leave and instead of gettin d deal done early, he was fooling himself givin statements like arsenal dont sell their best players cos it means their a small club.

2-as for nasri, d dude had one yr left on his contract so its either u offered him d deal he wants, or sell him early to avoid seein him walk out for free, but d man was still dilly dallyin and foolin himself dat d club wont sell and ended up sellin late wit little time for quality replacement

3-now if he did not make the above mentioned mistakes, he wud have bought mata @ a reasonable price, but he just fooled around until  a clause in d boy's contract was activated and his fee rose. even @ dat chelsea still bought him and d rest is history

4-now d excuse of age dosent work any more cos man u trashed his team with a younger team!! they were simply not good enuff . pele once said if u are good enuff, then ur young enuff

5-and pls forget injuries cos man u had vidic and ferdinand out as well and dats y its a squad game of 25players. is he saying he didnt hear d alarm bells during pre-season??
 
6- in football, u build from d back, so wen wenger inherited a world class defence line of adams, steve bould, seaman, keown, dixon, and winterburn, he built his success on them without valuing the importance of a superb defence since he didnt suffer to build them. and dats y d trial and error he keeps doin wit his defence keeps backfiring and wreckin his whole team. can u imagine dat after selling clichy who's a french international and a good left back, he nw xpected young gibbs to play left back tru out d whole season!! its crazy!


7-forget d prudence thing. d money is not his own and if he gets sacked for spending thier mony against their wishes, there are plenty teams dat will hire him. being a manger, ur reputation comes first. its now startin to look as if he over achieved as a manager

8-painfully, it took a fierce rival to make him see all this

wait o! some of d posts i read that blame sanusi just sound dumb.
is it his fault dat these banks chose to operate like 419 syndicates are are now payin d price for meetin a cbn gov who decided to play d game according to d rules and not pretend all is well?? the truth is all was neva well!!
some of u point to potential job losses as ur reason for d emotional attacks on his, but truth is these job4 were from d onset were nothin but a mirage and were neva going to last and besides wat about the investors whom dont have to worry anymore about security of thier investments?? dont they deserve ur sympathy
this whole episode summarises d nigerian attitude of not blaming the thief who stole but blaming the owner for keepin his property carelessly!
truely sad!

eminem verse on the trck - no love was amazing

i truely miss d good ol days wen dis section was like d wild wild west. i think it's partly due 2 lack of ingeniuos topics and d tendency of members to only browse first pages.

m.i cos of d ease with which he flows, or wat u wud call delivery.

wel dats a very good point which in my view puts d prince above sid then. plus i think his singles omoba and give it to me did beta dan sid's pop sumtin and over d moon.
so i pick d prince, even though sid obviously has more talent.

it goes without sayin that d banj is mo hits biggest artist, followed by wande coal. but am struggling to place who comes next, d prince or dr sid.

nice jam! who produced it

christian karembu won all sorts of trophies with france and real madrid but i doubt if pple call him a legend. kanu is a little bit overrated

I know Kanu is naija's most decorated player, because he has won everything that can be won @ European club level and not forgetting his amazing feat @ Atlanta where he brought more joy to the country than any other player.

But this is the problem, on d senior national team level, he didn't do much and technically, the Olympics is considered a tournament not for pro's.

He went to 2 world cups and 3 or so Nations Cups without impact and has only 1 or 2 nations cup goals with one being a penalty sef.

Many will point to his Olympics feat but I wont say Di Maria is an Argentine legend because he scored the winning goal against us in that final.

Legendary status is appointed to those that did it @ the highest level and that is why there is this consensus that Messi, despite being more talented than Pele and Maradona, will not be rated above them unless he wins a world cup.

@ poster- ur point is lame and stupid. Listen carefully, Bleep osaze if he wants to hold his coach to ransome. Dat era of indiscipline is over. If u want to compare them, then consider wat they did @ world cups they attended.

I jus wanna clarify criteria no. 3 which says beta song.
Many pple are givin it to sultan on d basis of lyrics alone. But it takes more than lyrics to make a good song. In addition u also need rhythm and beats. Sometimes a song with wack lyrics wud beat a song with sensible lyrics cos of beat selection and arrangement.
For example p-square's do me despite its wack lyrics is a beta song than some socially concious songs.
Ironically I picked sultan's remix cos of dat hard hitting j-sleeky beat sef.

Top 5?!! Are u crazzy? Abeg siddon make I arrange u. In no particular order:
1:new york-ja rule, jada, & fat joe
2:two of america's most wanted-pac &snoop
3:hurricane-mos def, common, & co
4:DXL-dmx, lox, drag on
5:321-llcooj, redman, meth,canibus
6:hit em high-Breal, meth ,coolio, busta
7:love d dough-jigga & biggie
8:we go hard-killz and mi
9:reverse-diddy, mike currey, loon, busta, shyne & co
10:california love-pac & dre
11:johnny blaze-jada, nas, fat joe,&co
12:made u look remix-nas, jada, luda
13:somebody wants 2 die-mi & ice p
14:classic- nas, rakim, kanye, krs 1
15:I got gunz- fat joe, MOP, gangstarr
16:sample-terry & phero
17:am so hood remix: dj khaled & co
18: oh no-mos def, pharoe monch
19:rumble in d jungle-fugees, TCQ,busta
20:tear d roof off-meth and redman

Legendry status is defined by d impact of ur career not but lyrics alone. And dats y in football terms, Garba lawal wit less skills dan ikedia will foreva be rated way higher cos he had more impact!
Therefore eedris is a confirmed LEGEND!! He didn't just have hits, but megahits dat defined an era.
His followin from lagos to kano remains solidly behind him over d yrs

When d banj 's collabo wit snoop came out, there was a general notion that he had raised d bar to I higher level. But on further thought, I remembered sound sultan did something similar on d remix of his king of my country. D similarities were there to see, I.e doin a remix to a song wit an international artist and shootin a video for it. Now I wanna compare both efforts to see who did a beta job overall.
I'l created 3 categories for comparism so that 2 over 3 gives u a winner. Here are d categories-
1- which international star is bigger
2- who shot a betta video
3-who did a beta song as d remix.
Let me try first:

1-btw snoop and wyclef, I wud say wyclef is bigger so I'l give this to sultan.
2-no doubt dbanj video was beta cos it was more thorough even though I also liked d backstage freestyle nature of sultan's shot by capital but I'l give this one to dbanj.
3-finally I prefered tha track king of my country remix to endowed remix. So sultan takes this for me.

In summary sound sultan wins 2 out of 3
Let me see wat u guys think

I hate to burst your'l bubble but freestylin is just one of those side attractions in rap and dats y 2pac, arguably d greatest rapper was no freestyler. ur career will forever be judged by ur IMPACT! And that's y nigerian football will always grade Garba lawal over Pius ikedia despite havin inferior skills to d latter.
Of course there are lots of amazin lyricists out there but it takes more than dat. Most rappers to me are on d same level, that's when impact seperates d big fish from d others. Mi's impact include
 1- makin chocolate city one of d biggest record companies around
 2-givin previously unknown artists break-throughs
 3-BET recognition
Unless u do one or more of d above, u gats to chill. Oh and asper d freestylin, he can freestyle, besides bein a 5 aside champion doesn't guarantee u'l perform @ wembly

@ ptdf, buhari was an appointee of d govt as such we don't know wat his mandate was but asumin he was brought in to dev d north then he did wat was asked of him splendidly wit accountability.
But now d conditions are different, he is askin d whole country to select him to dev d country as such going by his honest and sincere nature, that's wat he'l do.
Besides wat did OBJ do about benin ore rd after eight yrs in power? And he was a southerner fa!