₦airaland Forum

ganisucks:
@General_Oluchi

The sofa that the IGP is sitting on can't be found even on the altar of that Church. This tells you who is been given more regard in that Church.
People are taking note of what our Churches are becoming nowadays.

illicit:
Oh ok I get it

He foiled una plans, una think say na only him go waka come?

So dat una fit Gulak him abi

What is he scared of?

LaRosa01:
I support that 100% let Igbo carry there 5 state go form there country and Fulani we give them two state up north.make them leave us in peace

Lol. See this onuku. Them tell you say Igboland na only the 5 SE states? You be thief?

LaRosa01:
which North Central?quote me there is no difference between Igbo and the Fulani,only difference is Fulani are smoother in operation and think further while the igbos are loud and shallow in thinking.
both tribes are the problem of Nigeria

So what do we do to both the Igbos and Fulanis? Expel them from Nigeria right?

Enice:
now you know that there's was is called "useless comment", let's talk. The first comment you made was a useless comment and a useless comment is replied with another useless comment. Tinubu is not in court here. Obi also has also a two year diffence in his official age.

Can you present any document to support the 'two year difference' in Obi's age like you claimed? We are waiting for your response. Don't run away.

Calitoscassius:
You should read the story, engage your brain. Maybe, just maybe, you would comprehend that it is Igbo against Igbo.

Meanwhile... who da fork is Mohbad? Am I supposed to have heard of him or her?

Since when have a people, a community or even family members stop having problems among themselves? It is nothing new and shouldn't be viewed from the prism of tribalism. Wasn't it just last year that Kogi state government had a problem with Dangote cement at Obajana? They forced the company to shut down. Did you call them out as northerners against northerners? Common sense should tell you civil matters will always arise and it is best to listen to both parties first before jumping to conclusion. Have you heard the people's story with the man before you jump into conclusion?
Don't your omoniles still attack other Yorubas and destroy their properties? Learn to use your head properly.

Enice:
Una no dey tire? Obi that was goalkeeper with Peter Odili, how old is he? Funny people. Keep on ranting on the net.

Is my observation wrong? If not, why did you make this useless comment? Always endeavour to reason out things well before commenting.

Calitoscassius:
This is not even westerners against southerners. This is Igbo against Igbo. Wickedness.

Must you guys turn everything to tribalism? You should wait to hear the full story before allowing tribalism take the better of you. Did you see anyone tribalise Mohbad's death? Why are you sons of Oduduwa so attached to tribalism? Tufiakwa!

LegendHero:
Below is the transcript of President Bola Tinubu from Chicago state university.

Tinubu always claim he is a brilliant student that consistently enter dean’s list and this transcript lay credence to that fact.

Source: https://x.com/onsogbu/status/1702640457916756057?s=46&t=oGAxjhiGeufNKlYA6fDTyA

CC: Mynd44

The year of birth doesn't tally with the official year he has been parading. Your transcript says 1954 while he has been claiming 1952. Certainly, there's no truth in this document that you posted. Go back and remould it again.

Meanwhile, flooding is coming from Cameroon and will hit major cities and towns in about two weeks from now. What plans has the government of Nigeria put in place to control the situation and also to help the people when emergencies arise?

It is easier for Togo astronauts to successfully land on the moon than for Nigeria to ever develop or achieve greatness. Instead, she will continue to use most of the resources to fight Igbos which will make her remain in stagnancy while her problems and population continue to grow.
No sane human being with ambition will like to stay in Nigeria 30 years from now. It will be very scary to do so. The sheer number of religious terrorists, violent criminals, touts and uneducated layabouts will be so huge that even soldiers will be fearful for their own lives. This is too obvious.

KGBKremlin:
So your tribe is the evil tribe spoiling African image worldwide.

I'm deltan for your information.

Of course, you're an Ogbomoso deltan. Cowards who love to attack from another location and identity to draw fire to other people. Such deceitful people I have never seen before.

KGBKremlin:
Hope nigeria government understood that certain tribe are the reasons for the rejection of visa by Dubai to Nigerians,if the situation is not handle again to restrict visa to those tribe avoiding them flooding inside the UAE same scenario will happen and gonna worsen.

The government of Nigeria and Dubai should work on this visa should not be given to anyone just because they claimed to be Nigerians.

Thank you.

The average mind of a Yoruba man. Na make una dey see am o. Their ethnic profiling agenda is still heavily ongoing.

Very shameful what nairaland has become.

IbeOkehie:
Rationalize all you want. The decision made by Zik & the Igbo to REJECT independence at the Lancaster Conference was a terrible mistake. Obafemi Awolowo wrote at least one book on the importance of TRIBE & ETHNICITY as THE basis of a modern nation state. Awo even forsaw the demise of the Soviet Union. He was wiser but the thing is, Zik and the Igbo had a different motive that I can't discuss here. Seriously eh, that Pan Africanist thing is a laugh, the an Igbo man who never built any large nation state, stifled in poverty in a humid rainforest, dreaming of saving Africa from his village hut Amazing naivety if you actually believe it, but it was NOT an Igbo motivation for insisting on a United Nigeria.

Pan African utopia LOL, abeg leave me alone jor. You Nigerians will not kill me with your upside down logic.

Good Luck to you all, enjoy the fruits of One Nigeria, every tribe is tasting the grapes of wrath

Ok. Whatever rocks your boat. We all shall see how Nigeria ends. Ndigbo will surely outlive Nigeria.

ChiefJusticeFuc:
Where is the official pardon signed by Ojukwu ?

There is a gazzetted order of pardon signed by Gowon that states that Gowon and not Ojukwu released Awolowo.

You people should stop your stupid lies.

Hate which occupied your heart and mind will easily becloud sound reasoning. Aguiyi-Ironsi wasn't declared dead at the time Awolowo was released and Ojukwu will always ask Gowon the whereabout of him.
Ojukwu never accepted Gowon as his superior and never took orders from him. Nothing would function in the East without Ojukwu's approval. That alone will let you know who released Awolowo.

ChiefJusticeFuc:
Arrested members of the Jan 15 coup sought refuge in Biafra .

Why did Awo not seek refuge in the yeast but instead was flown immediately to meet with Gowon ?

One will think that Gowon being HoS had the sole powers to grant a pardon and not Ojukwu.

If Gowon had not pardoned Awolowo and ordered for his release ,Awo would have been rearrested and thrown into Kirikiri.

These Ibos can not lie and there is no point arguing with these pathological liars.

As at the time Awolowo was released, both Ojukwu and Gowon were Lt. Colonels and Ojukwu never recognised Gowon as his superior and as such didn't take orders from him. Gowon couldn't have ordered Ojukwu to release Awolowo from Calabar Prison and send him to Lagos. Only Ojukwu had the power to do so. Gowon even mentioned it in the decree he issued on 27th May, 1967- 9 months after Awolowo was released from the prison in Eastern Nigeria.
Gowon became the C-in-C on 27th May, 1967 and was promoted to Major General on the 1st of June, 1967.
Know your history and don't allow hatred to kill you.

IbeOkehie:
I wasn't inclined to read your sophistry here but I did. You accuse me of a weak argument but you brought up a historic thread that completely destroys your own argument. Let's look at it.

You wrote:



We all know, you acknowledge, that there was a prevalent Igbophobia in the North BEFORE independence. Actually as far back as the 1940s. By the way, my mother's family lived in the North for decades before Independence, she was born there, so I know all about the hostility to the Igbo in the North.

Now if you're in a country where you're subject to racist, tribalist hatred and you're offered INDEPENDENCE, an automatic way out of the hatred, why would you refuse? The Igbo people - like my mother's family - still ended up leaving all their property in the North, some of them lost their very lives in the United Nigeria suborned by Zik. I think there was a greater possibility of peaceful separation if Awo's proposal for a secession clause had been adopted.

Dear Sir, think about what you just wrote. Just do a logical analysis. It's NOT that hard to see that a serious mistake was made.

1) There was a prevalent Igbophobia in the North as far back as the 1930's. I'll add that there were periodic deadly pogroms against Igbo and other Southern residents. So it was clear that Northerners didn't like Igbo people. They didn't want them there and remember, it should go without saying, the presence of the Igbo there was FACILITATED by the FORCED unification of Nigeria by the British.

2) The British who made the error gathered everyone together at the Lancaster Conferences and told them to decide their future. The Igbo who were continual victims of tribalist mass murder were offered the chance to go away and form their own country where they could live in peace and manage their own lives free from Igbophobia.

3) Those very Igbo rejected the offer and because of the rules of negotiation, their refusal ensured the continued existence of the same Nigeria where they would remain subject to more riots, pogroms and mass murder.

Let me just repeat it for emphasis, the Igbo rejected a free offer to secede from a country within which they had been subjected to murderous pogroms for decades...a nation where Igbophobia was a potent ideology. Seriously, what did Zik and his fellow Igbo elites think would happen in the decades to come? That Igbophobia would just wither away and give way to a Pan Africanist love fest?

Just think about all this and tell me who is making baseless justifications for a naive, stupid, Pan Africanism This same circumstance is why the English wisely decided to leave the EU, I mean look at the destruction wrought by European tribes with their conflicts up to World War 2. Mark it now, we'll be all dead and gone by then, but the EU will come to a sad end. Any wise, thoughtful leader KNOWS that tribal diversity within a democratic nation is dangerous. The lessons are replete throughout history....in Africa look at Congo in the 1960's, look at Rwanda more recently and many, many others.

What we should be asking is WHY the Igbo made such a suicidal decision to preserve the "perpetual" Unity of Nigeria. I know the reason, confirmed to me by those who know, but I'm not telling.

Good Luck to all Nigerians...you're gonna need it.

Let's get this thing very clearly. Was the offer for secession at the regional or ethnic level? I believe you'll agree with me that it was at the regional level and not either party or ethnic. Nnamdi Azikiwe an Igbo man from the Anioma clan might have seen the possibility of losing majority of his clan to Western Nigeria and he thought it was best not to allow it. It might partly be what encouraged him to seek for a united Nigeria. You certainly cannot fault him on this. Anioma situation was always a problem for the entire Igbo nation because of where the British placed them. The same thing still happened during the Biafran War. We on the Eastern side can't just leave our brothers behind. We suffer together and move together.

The Igbophobia in the north wasn't enough to make our leaders denounce pan-Africanism because they believed that with better understanding, we all could live together and build a super country. Remember that we just met under the British and our ways appeared strange to one another at the time. Today, the Igbophobia in northern Nigeria is only localized to the muslim Hausa-Fulani-Kanuri areas. The rest don't really have a problem with Igbos. The main problem is the fulanis who wield the power and are able to manipulate others politically to hate and work against Ndigbo. You should go and read about Gideon Orkar's coup. It will make you realize that some other ethnic groups in the north and middlebelt have realized that Igbos were never the problem. This is why many minority ethnic groups in the middlebelt are tilting towards Igbos today. They will never accept to be in the country with the fulanis... this I'm very sure of.

I'm a very firm proponent and active supporter of Biafra. I'm proudly an IPOB member but I know that if Nigeria is restructured in such a way that Ndigbo are all put in one region with our own constitution and we control our land and resources, I'll favour it over Biafra. My reason is simply pan-Africanism and the benefits that we all can get from it. However, I know that that type of restructuring won't happen in Nigeria because of 'bad belle' people who rather die than watch Igbos progress. This is why I'm currently putting my all for the emergence of Biafra.

Finally, I can wager that you neither know the main reason behind Congo nor Rwandan problem. I won't go into their issues unless you ask specifically about them then I'll tell you because my studies about various African countries is very deep to understand their peculiar problems so I can see how it affects pan-Africanism in general.

Mind you, I grew up in northern Nigeria so I know what is obtainable over there.

Reno should bring more lies and we will expose him for trying to lie against Igbos in his sycophantic crave for crumbs from the Yorubas.

Here's an excerpt from an interview between Rudolf Okonkwo with Chief Odumegwu Ojukwu on 9th July, 2001. Rudolf published it on Sahara Reporters Online on 26th November, 2011 after he was unable to get another interview with him due to his illness. I'll put the link for everyone to verify.
As you can see, Reno Omokri is a compound liar and should never be taken seriously.
https://saharareporters.com/2011/11/26/my-last-interview-dim-chukwuemeka-ojukwu-rudolf-okonkwo

You'll find this exact excerpt in the 4th to the last response of Ojukwu. You'll have to scroll down almost to the end.

IbeOkehie:
Sir you can look me up on the internet. I'm on Facebook. It's not that hard. I'm from Nkwerre in Imo State. I live in Raleigh NC USA. In this country everything is on the internet. You can send me an email as some others on this forum have done, some people I've had video calls with too. The only person whose tribe is in doubt is YOU, because you've CHOSEN to be anonymous.

Zik was the elected leader of our people and he made a choice. He CHOSE to oppose the proposals of Awo & the Sarduana. He could have chosen to support them, but he didn't. His CHOICE under the rules of the Lancaster Conference automatically made the proposals for a Secession Clause or breaking up Nigeria null and void. And that choice contributed to a post-independence milieu that ultimately caused the Biafra War.

You're arguing like a typical Nigerian University graduate. Nothing new to me.

Good Luck with all that.

My identity has been proven here and those who know me know so very well.
Your argument is very weak and it fails to substantiate your claims against Zik at the Lancaster Constitutional Conference. Like I said before, he brought his argument to the table just like the others brought theirs. It was debated with all bearing in mind that failure to have a concensus will mean no date for independence. If out of three regions and political parties, only one had a preference for a united country with the other two favouring a lose set up susceptible to splitting at any point in time, it is expect that he was able to convince the others even if reluctantly to his side for independence to be granted. The proposal for a united Nigeria wasn't a bad one due to the situation of Africans at the time. The opportunity offered by a working united Nigeria is far bigger than whatever any sectional country could ever achieve. How you guys choose to demonise Azikiwe over a simple proposal of uniting African groups at the time is unbelievable. Mind you, every agreement is subject to review after a set period of time including whether a country remains united or not. It is just typical of Nigerians to find the coward way out by blaming an Igbo man for all their woes. Many countries have splitted after they've lived for centuries due to the discovery of their irreconcilable differences. Nigeria ordinarily should be no different. Theophilus Danjuma who was a key player at the time has recently asked for a renegotiation of the lopsided contraption. He isn't daft to be laying blames on someone who simply favoured a united country at a time Africans were just finding their feet. That is what real men do instead of not facing their current realities.
Finally, let's consider if Awolowo's argument had prevailed. Nigeria wouldn't have lasted past 1963. The Western region would have pulled out first followed by the north. It means Igbo groups would have been trapped in Western as well as northern Nigeria with the Igbophobia prevailing there. Nothing guarantees that the East won't have tried to help our people in Anioma if they send an SOS message to us. The same goes for our people in Benue and Kogi. On our side in the East, nothing guarantees that we could have been able to sort out whatever grievances existed between us and COR areas. It might have been a cocktail of problems for the three countries that could have emerged from the breaking of Nigeria in 1963. If any happens to succeed, it will still be shy of what Nigeria could have offered and everyone would have been left wondering what it could have been like if Nigeria had been left united. Today, we all can agree that our differences are irreconcilable thanks to Nnamdi Azikiwe and the rest. We can now agree to go our seperate ways and manage whatever we can make out of our smaller countries. This is the reality on ground.
Stop blaming Ndigbo for whatever perceived crime an Igbo person might have committed. Extend the same accusation to persons from other ethnic groups and not the whole. This is how it is done every other place on the planet.

IbeOkehie:
Zik didn't impose anything on anyone, he just followed the rules of the Lancaster Conference. Sheesh, is this too hard to understand? You do know you can go find the history on the internet, right? As for his Pan Africanism, it was naive and it was actually NOT the reason the Igbo insisted on One Nigeria at that time.

Is Yujin or whatever an Igbo name? Is it that ALL Igbo people have the SAME thinking on everything? Black people are very toxic I swear. No civilized person should ascribe opinions to anyone on basis of any group identity. Especially when you can COMMUNICATE with them and find out their REASONING and logic. Forming opinions based on group identity is the most primitive from of thinking. You Nigerians had better get to civilization before you're completely left behind.



Talking of Biafra, I would advise you to take on a completely open mind and read the Ahiara Declaration again...that's if you've ever read it.

Good Luck to Nigerians.

Since he followed the rules of the conference, then why blame him? You think you're smart but unfortunately, I spotted holes in your claims and I deciphered you aren't who you claim you were hence I alluded to your thought process being 'unIgbo'. Of course, everyone from an ethnic group can't reason exactly alike but the stream of thought will still bear markers that share some resemblance especially when you grew up in the midst of your people. You failed the test just like your so called discussion with the Eze of Agbor, Dr. Edozien.
You claimed it wasn't Pan-Africanism that was behind Zik's quest for a united Nigeria. I now ask you to state what you thought was his reason or like Igbo haters will always do; what was the reason behind all Igbos wanting a united Nigeria at the time other ethnic groups didn't key into it?
Finally, my choice of a moniker i immaterial to our discussion so look for something tangible and use as a come back.

IbeOkehie:
Politics and Economics are siamese twins. I've been lucky to discuss this issue with people who know Nigeria from the start, like the Eze of Agbor Dr Edozien and a few others, but most especially some children of prominent Nigerians. I'm confident I understand the roots of the Nigeria Crisis and as our people say, I know where to start the exhumation because I know where and how the body was buried.

I stopped reading your comment when I got to this because it's the most common - AND STUPID - comeback that I get when I bring up the Lancaster Conference -

You wrote -

"Azikiwe couldn't have imposed his will on other members."

I already explained the general rules for the Lancaster Conferences ....note the plural, it wasn't just Nigeria, it was Malaysia, India, Zimbabwe, Kenya etc. The rule was that all decisions had to be UNANIMOUS or they were not adopted. So yes, Zik had the power to stop any attempt at secession at the Lancaster Conference and he did exactly that. I challenge you to go and READ the history so you can stop peddling lies, that is if you actually want the truth.

Go and debate people who are still at your level of understanding. I've done my best.

Good Luck to all you Nigerians, you deserve each other.

I'm beginning to doubt your claims of being Igbo because your thought process is really flawed.
You claimed to have discussed with the Eze of Agbor Dr. Edozien whereas no title like that ever existed. I wonder whatever fallacy you've been saying here.
I repeat, Nnamdi Azikiwe couldn't have imposed his argument for a united country on the others. His reasons were and can still be understood. Africans need to stick together so our voice can have more impact. If Nigeria had worked, he will be celebrated as a hero. It's unfortunate that it never worked as those who insist on ruling her are bereft of the ideas needed to make her work. The idea of a united Nigeria wasn't a bad one.

Ritchiee:
Why are you lying,sir?
It is all over the net.



Of all the decrees enacted in Nigeria, none is more controversial than Decree No 34 of 1966. It was promulgated on May 24, 1966 by then Head of State, Major General Johnson Thomas Umunnakwe Aguiyi-Ironsi (1924-1966) . It was called Unification Decree while some critics at that time labelled it the De-unification Decree.

It was the decree that started the death of regionalism – an issue which is still generating controversy till now. Although the next head of State General Yakubu Gowon repealed the Decree 34 on August 31, 1966 through Decree 9, a large portion of the Decree is still effective till today.

General Gowon further compounded it by promulgating Decree 14 of 1967 which broke Nigeria into 12 states and provided for military governors for each state. With Decrees 34, 8 and 14 regionalism was finally buried.

Under Ironsi, each region had their own constitution and still controlled their own resources. How then can you say he started the death of regionalism?
Can you post excerpts from his decree that support your claims about it leading to the destruction of regionalism?
NOTE: Don't post any commentary from anyone. Post strictly from his decree 34.

IbeOkehie:
Dude if you're Igbo, you need to please stop this hypocrisy. I'm an Igbo man too and when I found out the LIES and HYPOCRISY that our people have been bandying around about our history in Nigeria, I almost died from shock. Even my own parents and older relatives who fought the Biafra War seemed to have adopted a position of selective amnesia about the causes of the pre-war Crisis. We must always strive to tell the truth and if it's too dangerous to tell, just keep quiet until it's safe. Lies are destructive because they set wrong incentives for action.

Chukwuma Nzeogwu AND/OR Aguiyi Ironsi STARTED Nigeria on the path to the present Unitary Government. Simply by introducing military into government via illegal and biased violence, they GUARANTEED that Nigeria would become a Unitary State.

Long before that, the Great Zik, Nnamdi Azikiwe, ensured the continued existence of Nigeria as a United Entity. In the Lancaster Conference Negotiations, the UK did for Nigeria what it did for many other Crown Colonies....it gave THE NIGERIAN PEOPLE a chance to choose the structure of their country after independence. By that act alone, the British gave Nigerians the chance to rectify a lot of whatever wrong was done by colonialism.

At the Lancaster Conference

1) Obafemi Awolowo took a position that a SECESSION CLAUSE must be included in the Constitution.
2) The Sarduana took the position that Nigeria should be divided into separate countries.
3) Nnamdi Azikiwe specifically opposed Awolowo's proposal...and insisted that Nigeria must remain united "in perpetuity"

The rules of all the Lancaster Conferences for British Colonies was that EVERY major change in the status quo had to be unanimous. So it was Zik and his Igbo voters who LEGALLY locked up all the tribes and regions in Nigeria FOREVER. If Awolowo had his way, the Biafra War would never have been necessary, the Eastern Region would have had the LEGAL RIGHT to simply walk away. There's a lot more I could say about this issue...for instance, I could EXPLAIN WHY the Igbo were so opposed to dividing Nigeria or any talk of secession rights. The Cameroons Referendum of 1964 is also very important, I urge everyone to go read about it. That episode alone makes EVERYTHING clear about who and what are the real problems in Nigeria.

I hope anyone who cares about Nigerian history can go research these issues. I have good websites and history that I can link to, but I won't do it, if you care enough go find it yourself, but the truth is most Nigerians don't care about anything except MONEY, that's why their country is the Poverty Capital of the World.

Good Luck to Nigeria.

You might be a good economist but you're poor in politics especially Nigerian politics. Whatever was agreed in the Lancaster Conference was first debated and her merits and demerits weighed by her participants. Azikiwe couldn't have imposed his will on other members. Zik was operating on a different wavelength from the rest as he was a Pan-Africanist. Nothing was wrong with that.
As for Nzeogwu's Coup, he granted an interview where he gave insights into his reasons for the coup. His regret was that the coup never went exactly as he planned it. People did celebrate the coup at the time until it was given ethnic colouration. Go and read up about the first coup in Ghana which was similar to Nzeogwu's coup but Ghanaians didn't allow it degenerate to ethnic killings like was done in Nigeria. Ghana's coup was just 1 month and 1 week after Nzeogwu's coup.
Ironsi on his side I can concede made terrible mistakes. He was detached from reality and couldn't see the danger ahead of him. He was so relaxed in a very tensed atmosphere and we are paying for it today. I really wish he intended to do what he is still being accused of. Perhaps, our soldiers could have countered the coup against him which will eventually lead to chaos and the division of Nigeria by force. Under his watch, over 300 eastern soldiers where massacred without much resistance. Would it have happened if truly he was power hungry? Certain things are very easy to deduce.
Do you know that Igbos were also attacked during the western crises known as 'operation wetie'? Igbophobia was rife at the time both in the North and West but it was worse in the north.
I insist that the interpretation of heaping the fault on Ndigbo is totally wrong. Some Igbo individuals can be blamed just like other persons from other ethnic groups are blamed for their actions and inactions but the prevaling position of the Nigerian state to blame the entire Igbos for the crimes of a single person must be challenged and condemned by every well meaning person. It is the reason why only Igbo individuals are selected from every government for probing and persecution in some cases while other culprits from the same government are spared. Case in point, only Emefiele is being held while all the other persons in Buhari's regime are left to enjoy their loot.
You may think you're very smart because it has not gotten to you and I really pray it doesn't get to you. I wish you understand what I'm trying to say without you witnessing it first hand.
Finally, it is almost 60 years since no Igbo man rule Nigeria. Why have those you considered not responsible for the decay of Nigeria been unable to develop her? Why do you absolve them from the blame of the current failure of Nigeria?

MT:
You cannot excuse your kinsman - Aguiyi Ironsi - from the tragedy that he subjected the whole nation to.

Read this from the first line of the Unification Decree:

"Subject to the provisions of this Decree, Nigeria shall on 24th May 1966 (in this decree referred to as ‘the appointed day’) cease to be a Federation and shall accordingly as from that day be a Republic, by the name of the Republic of Nigeria, consisting of the whole of the territory which immediately before that day was comprised in the Federation.."

Before 24th May, 1966, Nigeria was a Federation with each region self-governing and controlling their own wealth and resources. Your man came and in one fell swoop, he cancelled it and replaced it with Republic. He even titled it - the UNIFICATION decree, thus cancelling out the regional governments.

A foundation for national tragedy was laid and Gowon built on it.

If your brother had not cancelled the Federation, there was high possibility Gowon would not have thought along that line.

Aguiyi Ironsi would forever be seen as laying the foundation for the mess we are in. Go and read from different political analysts, you would see how your brother was viewed, and the intentions as well as ambition that drove him to reach such crazy conclusion.

Ok. So we can now agree that he did not abolish the regional system right? The regions existed until his death and nothing was traced to him to suggest he wanted to abolish them.
Gowon we all know was been controlled by powers that be. The northern people's coup of 1966 was not hatched by Gowon and as such, much of the decisions he implemented cannot be said to be exclusively his.

The unification he pursued which you all are condemning him for today was caused by the prevailing direction of the time. No region was being suppressed at the time and everyone was on equal footing. Only the West was in an unfavourable situation because Awolowo was in jail while Akintola was no more. There was nothing Aguiyi did to suggest he wanted to exploit either the West or the North. It was pure Igbophobia that worked against him.
The north was chanting 'Araba' under him while the West being in an uncertain situation due to the leadership lacuna could have opted for pulling out too. I believe Ironsi felt securing the country first was paramount before power can be handed back to civilians. He only lasted 6 months before he was killed.
How the story now changed to him abolishing regionalism remains very surprising.
The north who was shouting 'Araba' suddenly changed stance and abolished the regions to create a system that will favour them till date with the rest of you just following without accusing them of what you had earlier accused Ironsi. Isn't that double standard?
Almost 60 years on and their creation has persisted. Today, a Yoruba man is the president and he has the power to undo what the Ironsi was accused of but we all know he won't do it. It must be kept while the Igbo man is pointed as the architect of it all while Nigeria deteriorates together with the future of millions of her young ones. Such is the wisdom of black people.

Meanwhile, here's Gowon's decree 14 and 15.
He is the one who abolished the regional system, appropriated exclusive power to himself and created more states in the north thereby giving them more seats in the House of Assembly. Gowon is the culprit here.
Cc. MT

MT:
I misjudged you to be reasonable.

Are you a baby? You want to be spoon fed? You asked for all the resources, I gave them to you. So I should be pointing you to exact place. I am struggling to believe you are mentally retarded or have comprehension problems.

I'll refrain from insulting you so you don't run away. I want us to have a discussion on the exact contents of that decree.
Did he abrogate the regions? NO
Did he appoint military officers to over see the provinces/regions? YES
Did he allow each province/region to keep their own constitution? YES
Why then are you people lying that he truncated the regional system?
He was a military man and wanted to stabilize the country the way he felt would be better by using the military until he hands over back to the civilian. Similar thing was happening in ghana at the time too.

MT:
Here you have it again:

https://dawodu.com/decree34.htm

Stop being lazy if you want to embark on scholarly discourse.

Can you show me which section exactly abrogated the regionalism practiced at the time? Show exactly where he appropriated the resources of the regions and decided that he will be sharing allocations to whatever new things he created.
I'm waiting for you o.

MT:
Here you have it:

https://www.cfr.org/blog/nigerias-unitary-federalism

I asked for the exact words contained in Aguiyi's Decree 34 but you're giving me commentary by another person who might have interpreted it wrongly.
I ask again, provide the exact decree Aguiyi Ironsi enacted and make sure you read it yourself so we can discuss it very well. I'm waiting for you.

MT:
That was how it was till Aguiyi Ironsi changed everything - Western Region, Northern Region, Eastern Region.

Provide proof to your claims. Don't cite any decree just post the content of the decree so we can read where and how he changed it. If you fail to do so, then you're a big liar and should never be granted audience.

Ritchiee:
They did before Aguiyi Ironsi spoilt the arrangement and Gowon stamped it

Why are you so filled with lies? Can you provide proof that Aguiyi Ironsi spoilt it? Don't quote any decree for us. Post it here so everyone can read it for themselves.