₦airaland Forum

That was when he lied to everyone that he had the WASC needed to enroll in NMTC

ERockson:
It is wickedness for SE to be drumming support for Buhari 2019 now when he has not done any good thing for the country but the infliction of pain and poverty into the country.

All what SE want by 2023 is igbo president regardless of the damage Buhari government might have done to the country before 2019. It should be on record that the first region to support president Buhari re-election is SE just because of 2023 presidential position as if other region including North will fold their political arm for SE to just have it.
These people should not blame any region or tribe when they fail due to their political miscalculation as usual.

Who told you that Igbos are endorsing either Buhari or APC? Just because Okoroawusa had a meeting with some of his APC friends does not mean.the the Igbo nation supports Buhari

Rilwan20:
My friend you claimed this agitation for secession has been in existence before this current administration, I totally concur, but what I know verily well is that it has never been this intensified(apart from that of civil war). My question is why now? When you Biafra can be easily granted during the last administration when the nation was led by your 'self acclaimed' brother(GEJ). It wouldn't have even lead to this unprecedented ethno-religion division, perhaps you guys kept mum because the GEJ administration was quite favorable to you.

All I can say is that in a marriage between husband and wife, either party can seek divorce at any time.

drnoel:
Now who is talking like a fool. Where did Lugard come into this converse. Sad day when peeps like u who should know better start having orgasm cos of selfish mistakes of a dead man. The idea of a referendum, would have been an ideal way out but ur political elites wont let that cone through. All in all, there trouble

Lord Lugard comes into this because without him, you would not be a Nigerian.

Who do think owns the name you answering to? Who do you think created the Nigeria you are today claiming as your country?

dragunov:
So you feel you and your IPad yoots should dig up the st.upidity and avaricious disposition of Ojukwu, who led your predecessors astray before you were ever born. Right? +

Ojukwu led the Igbo nation on a war of freedom and independence and we are proud of him because freedom is a noble cause to fight for.

You are a 'Nigerian' who is still answering the name a white man gave you and claiming the country Lugard created as yours so I dont expect you to understand the concept of freedom and self determination Ojukwu fought for.

Okorocha is fooling himself. APC stands no chance in Igbo land. The only reason APC has a hold on Imo state is because Rochas took his mandate there.

Rochas is just misguided. In his mind, Igbo president is everything. Sorry bro but it is not. Im a proud Igbo man but Im praying that an Igbo man will ever be president of a messed up place like Nigeria.There is no Igbo politician of note who is a member of APC.

kropotkin2:
Californians just like the IPOBS are wasting their time. Both America and Nigeria consider secession an act of treason and fought bloody civil wars to crush such movements. Trump won and they are aggrieved, just like Buhari won and you IPOBS wont give it a rest. All are an exercise in futility

I dont think you remember that a civil war was fought over this matter long before Buhari knew where Government House was. Just incase you think all of this started with Buharis victory.

LxgIncrediboy:
And u think Biafra Will be?

No I dont it has to be. After its creation, if there aee others who wish to go, they are free. Heaven forbid that it becomes another Nigeria that holds people against their will.

fkj950ax:
The difference between California and IPOB and MASSOB is the legal route they are taking. Vote, referendum, laws and all.

They clearly spelt out the terms and tenets.

Until that is copied here, even I won't take you guys serious. Things ought to be done decently and in order.

The difference berween California and the Nigeria situation is that California is not made up of "indigenous people" people.

Ioannes:
A lesson for ipods and liepods and Wailers that you don't need to call your country a zoo, insult your president, call for donations to procure arms before you can begin the process of secession If you are truly serious.

That is if I believe it is my country. You think Nigeria is your country? Nigeria is the country Lugard created, did you seek his permission before claiming it as your country?

drnoel:
That's why the call for a political party supporting such an action is the only way forward. Violence begets only violence. What is the eastern politicians doing? If the state house of all 5 states enact or propose a bill that sucessfully pull them out of Nigeria, how so u thing Bubu or FG can stop them? Bros think before talking.

Dont talk like a fool. The states are nit allowed to make laws that are outside the sphere of the consttitution. The call should be for a referendum and not for some useless political exercise. Which state house did Lugsrd go to enact the creation of Nigeria?

Kingsley1000:
they are numerous..all igbo elites are now in apc



ngige,okorocha,mbadinuju,nnamani,orji uzo kalu,ezemo,ifeanyi uba,emeka offor,tony one week(idemili north representative)amid others

That of Ifeanyi Uba is not confirmed. Which leaves less than 10 people in all of Igbo land. Less than 10!

Thats not goid enough. APC is dead in Igbo land.

I dont think Ifeanyi Uba will run. He has said many times that he is happy with the curruent Governor. That doesnt sound to me like someone who is planning to run.

I cant even count up to 5 'heavyweight politicians' of Igbo extraction who are APC heavyweights.

A lesson for backward Nigerians who only believe in "Lord Lugard made us Nigerians". No unity is permanent!

Smooth278:
Bro, it will take some time but eventually Nigeria will be restructured into a true federal system... Thankfully oil is being discovered in some other places... Soon there will have to be a restructuring

So Nigerias unity is all about Oil? No wonder Ojukwu was right to get his people out of Nigeria.

These people are wasting their time. APC is going to be wiped in the next elections in Imo state and wont win any elections elsewhere in Igboland.

Everybody is tired of APC

Pointless thread preaching ancient history

Yorubas never cease to amaze me. Their definition of bravery is incredible. If Ojukwu who fought a war of independence for 3 years against overwhelming odds is a coward, then only God knows what the Yorubas who have never fought for anything in Nigeria think bravery is.

Yorubas generally dont like it when a person is not a Northern a$$licker.

Thats why they hate Ojukwu fo standing up to Northern agression

Thats why they hate Fayose for not licking the a$$ of Buhari

Thats why they hate FFK for not bowing down to Northern domination.

But as soon as Awolowo, who at almost 60 years of age, ran to be deputy to a Northern boy who was roughly half his age (Gowon) Yorubas cheered for joy.

Northern a$$licking has become something to aspire to.

Ballmer:
I guess you have no idea how pathetic you sound. A Gambia of just 1.8 million people was brilliant enough to chart it's course to freedom while over 40 million Igbo still roam the wilderness of the red soil in slavery with no shame. When will your kinsmen man up n fight for your freedom or why can't you chart a diplomatic course to earn your freedom now that you have realised your lousy loud mouth or chest beating won't earn you one ?

Pathetic is for those who have done nothing and are still doing nothing to get emancipation. Who else in Nigeria has broken awayband created a separate state? Who else in Nigeria has fought the Nigerian state in a civil war to get independence? Who else has engaged the entire military strenght of Nigeria for 3 years? Who else is still protesting to this day, demanding independence?

Only the great Igbo nation. Only them can do all of the above in Nigeria and have done it. The rest are just slaves of "Lord Lugard". Nobody is going to go by any diplomatic channel to leave Nigeria. Diplomacy isnt what created Nigeria

Just look at how Buhari looks all skin and bones. Just look at his knuckles, looking skeletal.

How can a president look like someone dying of hunger?

This Mr Ubani is a stupid man. It was him and Joe Yorubakwe who adviced Igbos to forget their God given right to self determination and embrace the colonial system of slavery called 'one Nigeria'.


The same Mr Ubani is now talking about 2019/2023 and Igbos should go and lick the a$$ of the Northerners and Yorubas just for the useless office of President of Nigeria.

Does Mr Ubani know that Gambia is an indepedent country of just 1.8 million people? About the population of the city of Enugu.

How can any sane Igbo man be talking about the 45 million strong Igbo nation to be licking a$$ in this day and age?

Ubani is crazy

TeleboiZ005:
True Federalism!

People have been shouting that since 1967 in Aburi, guess what? It never happend

kropotkin2:
How can Nigeria be illegitimate? Every single Nation on earth recognizes her legitimacy. If Nigeria were not legitimate then it follows that every nation state created by colonial powers are also illegitimate, that will place half the nation states on the planet in this category. If Nigeria be illegitimate, how can an illegitimate entity legitimately organize a referendum for you to form a 'legitimate' Biafra?

It is not the legitimacy of Nigeria other countries recignise. What they recognise it Nigerias sovereignty. Sovereignty in this context is the right of Nigeria to be self governing. If Nigeria disintegrates, the international community will still recognise all the countries that emerge from it. Czechoslavakia was once recognised by the international community. When it disintegrated in 1992 into Czech Republic and the Republic of Slovakia, all countries in the world recognised both countries and life went on.

Every nation in the world created by colonialist is illegitimate unless the indigenous tribes tacitly agreed to carry on being together. Using Ghana as an example, the British forced several indigenous tribes together (just like they did in Nigeria) to create Ghana. The Ewe's, Ashante's, Fante's, Gans etc. The difference with Ghana and Nigeria is that Ghana has no tribe agitating for independence, Ghana has never had to fight a civil war and kill millions of it countrymen in other to maintain its unity. The indigenous tribes tacitly accepted Ghana

It is not so in Nigeria. Nigeria is illegitimate because the various ethnic groups have never accepted it to this day day like Ghanains have. So, it is only logical that a referendum be conducted by the Government. Those who vote to go can go while the ones who choose to carry on will become the 'legitimate Nigerians'

Which mean that IPOB are entitled to defend themselves if they are shot at my the Nigeria Army while unarmed!

kropotkin2:
I now see why its impossible to reason with you. You IPOBS reject the legitimacy of the Nigerian state so that leaves us in more or less of a quandary. If you reject the legitimacy of the Nigerian state (which by the way is recognized by every single nation state on earth), then you will have no other choice than to come into a confrontation with her. The events of Last Friday sheds more light on this

Guy, Nigeria is not legitimate. Just because a British opportunist called Lugard came in 1914 to force everyone together at gun point does not make Nigeria legitimate. If you want Nigeria to be legitimate, support a referendum let the indigenous ethnic groups Lord Lugard came to West Africa to force together, the option of opting in or out. If you say no, then dont expect peace or happiness by supporting the holding of people against their will.

Nigeria doesnt have as much legitimacy as Czechoslovakia, USSR and Yugoslavia who all broke up into smaller countries in the 1990's

Mujtahida:
Ibos have been infected with victimorolgy a most deadly disease. Of all the ethnic groups you guys whine the most. Make una Kontinue. It's so pathetic. I thought you guys had more refinement of spirit but I am seeing that you guys are gutless crybabies.

We are not gutless, far from it. We are the only ones who have fought a war of independence to free our selves from the colonial creation called Nigeria and held strong for 3 years.


No other people in Nigeria can ever have that sort of guts.

T9ksy:
Why is it that every time you pen your opinion here, it's always lies that flows effortlessly from you? it's gotta be genetic.

Were ibos fighting for their own nation before independence or were they agitating for their own nation when their homeboy, Ironsi became HOS (through the back-door) of nigeria in January 1966 after their fellow ibo boys had murdered leaders of other regions in cold blood?

Before we got independence, you covetous folks were all for One nigeria, even going as far as prophesying how your god will enable you to dominate the rest of us in the new nation. When the Ijaws wanted to secede, you guys quashed their dreams preferring to remain in the lugardian contraption but the moment you lost out in the bid to be top dog, you suddenly remembered you have nothing in common with the rest of us and hence wanted out.

No way. Igbos have never been strong advocates of one united Nigeria. It is on record that Igbos fought Lugard in the Ekumeku and Arochukwu wars so as not to be included in Nigeria. Towards independence, Zik was an advocate of one united Nigeria. However, Zik is just one Igbo man. The opinion of one man can never be equated to mean the opinion of a people. It should be noted that today, Zik in death is no where as respected in Igbo land as freedom fighters such as Ojukwu.

This talk about Igbos wanting to dominate Nigerians is funny. We now know that Nzeogwu and co had no interest in taking power for themselves. We also know that Ironsi became head of state by virtue of the fact that he was the highest Ranking Soldier of his time and not because he was Igbo. Besides, if Igbos are this sneaky sort of people, why are Nigerians fighting civil wars to be with Igbos?

Ijaws did not want to secede. Adaka Boro and 15 armed men cannot be said to represent the entire Ijaw nation and he had no mandate to declare anything. The same Adaka Boro who later fought for 'one Nigeria'? Even Ojukwu sought and recieved mandate to secede.

kropotkin2:
The constitution and political system the Brit's operate are different from ours. Our constitution is modelled after the American model which is rigid, while the Brits operate a parliamentary style (go and research into the fundamental differences between the two). There us no place in our constitution for a referendum and any President who dares call for one without an amendment to that effect, commits high treason. So guy forget this your Biafran delusion. It will never come to fruition by a referendum

You missed the point. If the very people who are responsible for making you a 'Nigerian' can use referendum in these modern times, then who are you they created to say you cant use referendum? You are not as rich as them, you are not as advanced as them and you not as wise as them, plus, they created you. But in your own mind, they are stupid to use referendum to peacefuly solve internal issues while you as a Nigerian is wise to use war to kill millions of your fellow country man.

You see why Africans are backward?

Mujtahida:
And during the war your people did not kill too abi. It's a shame but I must say that my conclusion from observing the exchanges here on nairaland is that ibos antagonise the yorubas more, Ibos have an irrational hatred abi envy of the yorubas, Ibos are more petulant and petty, Ibos are more tribalistic and narrow-minded than any other ethnic group here. It's a shame. I am deeply disappointed in you Ibo Nairalanders. By the way I am not yoruba.

How can you say all of this when it has been Igbos who have been fighting since time immemorial to have their own separate country? Would we have all this problems if Nigeria left Igbos to go their way?