₦airaland Forum

Paretomaster:
3Million lives wasted because of ur greedy, and insatiable appetite for Power, despite being in Top positions in d Govt before d war, Nzeogwu want to seize power, and g it to his kins....

blame d coward dat fled to Abidjan for the lost.....u ppl are still towing the same lines now, and that's why we are cautioning u ppl,before u bring another disaster to urself.

go, and put ur house in order first, then u can speak in one voice, and be heard.

Stop listening to Yoruba propaganda you have listend to all your life. The Igbos had already gone and were enjoying there new found freedom when you Nigerians suddenly started shouting 'Lord Lugard made us all one Nigeria' and came down to East to start fighting and killed 3 million people. You Nigerians came to fight people who had already gone their way. Nna, you guys made Lord Lugard proud, you guys killed even more people him to maintain 'one Nigeria'. Since this 'one Nigeria' is capable killing millions, its far better us Igbos stay away from it because such a thing has no future

Probz:
I couldn't care less what happened 30 years ago, zendy. "Delta Igbo" or "Western Igbo" can be used to apply to the indigenous Igbos of Delta State, who just happen to be west of the River Niger. The two terms are synonymous and mean exactly the same thing.

What would you call Rivers Igbos specifically without referring to their state?

You have to care because 'importing' English words like 'Delta' to describe an indigenous ethnic group anywhere in Africa is not right. Calling someone 'Delta Igbo' is like calling me from Anambra an 'Anambra Igbo'. Makes no sense.

kropotkin2:
Sorry oga there will be no referendum on any Nigerian soil. Not without a war

Then you have to agree that Nigeria is an instrument of oppression which people like Ojukwu were right to fight.

If Britain that created Nigerian can use Referendum twice in the last 3 years, one for Scotland to vote on independence and the other to vote on the EU, then who is Nigeria, a mere colonial creation to deny people referendum?

Probz:
Delta Igbo and Western Igbo mean exactly the same thing, na?

Not really. Delta Igbo is the wrong way of saying Western Igbo

30 years ago, there was nothing called "Delta Igbo".

bantudra:
refedumdum will bring you nothing...

i see no sense in it...

You see no sense in referendum? Your colonial masters Britain have used it twice in the last 3 years to resolve major disputes in a democratic way but it is a third world citizen like you who sees no sense in it.

Britain used it to allow Scotoland to choose wether to go or stay in 2014

Britain used it again to allow the nation to stay or opt out of the EU last year.

Get sense, referendum is even more important than general elections.

Paretomaster:
for God sake who is holding u down?.....must u get our blessing before u leave?...pls go.....

Thats what you guys said last time and 3 million lives were lost.

Interesting. The British regarded all the western Igbos as 'Ika Igbo' its 3 major towns 'Ika Asaba', 'Ika Kwale', 'Ika Agbor'


Funny that today, many now call the 'Delta Igbo' which is wrong.

bantudra:
i get you...i understand..

but the problem issss,go were....

i dont think you will ever get biafra on nigerian soil....

they maps some of your people always draw is a problem...

doa...

if nigeria dont declare war on you,other tribes will...

or you want other tribes to relocate from the maps that you people always draw??...

Thats why the call is for a referendum where everybody can choose their destiny

a0if:
Where is Nigeria going? With the current situation of this country and the recycle system of political administrations bringing different ideologies to the governed. There seems to be an extreme mountain of in-contentedness in many people but what lingers on my mind is this question.........
Where is Nigeria going?
Please, kindly decipher this.

Nigeria has been heading no where since the British left in 1960. Nzeogwu saw this and tried to take action, Ojukwu saw it and chose to take his people and jump ship. Gowon, Mohammed, Buhari, IBB and Abacha were military dictators who used brute force to keep Nigeria together. However, Nigeria is on the downward decline and nothing can save it except........................ if it becomes a confederation. And even this is delaying the inevitable

bantudra:
freedom to what??..to eat each others up??...

you already created a bad name for una selfs everywere abroad..

una realy think those abroad will forget what una are doing abroad just because una call una selfs nau biafrans??...

they will make visa stop for all igbos in biafra...

Freedom to control ones destiny. Is it by force to be a Nigerian? That name is something Lugard brought with him to West Africa and imposed on us all. Because of that name, my fellow Igbos lost over 3 million people.

If it is you, would you like to be part of an organisation that might kill over 3 million of your people tomorow? Of course not, only a crazy person will want that.

So it is better for us to go our way, have bad name and use visa to travel than be part of something than can kill millions of us such as Nigeria.

davereal:
Life is expensive in the East mostly because of " Igbotic Greed". There is high distrust among the Igbo Nation, and until they fight that, my lovely BIAFRA will forever be a mirage. #Peace #GiveusBiafraorwedie #Reality

Disclaimer: Not all Igbos are greedy and not all greedy persons are Igbos!

Let me put it this way. It is better that life is expensive in the East rather than no life at all.


A Nigeria that cost Igbos over 3 million lives can never be better than the Biafra that gives Igbos their freedom.

Smooth278:
That being said... Still no to Biafra...a True fiscal federation is what we really need in this country... Will make all state Governments creative as the era of bailouts and handouts from the federal government will stop... My 2 cents pro bono

If you are hoping for fiscal or true federalism, you better forget it.

People keep shouting restructuring but when you ask the same people how they will get restructuring when most of the North are against it, no one can say anything.

nonsobaba:
It is not true that Soludo has decamped to APC. He is the annointed one to take over from Obiano in 2022

Soludo has put out a press release that he did not decamp to APC. He still remains a card carrying member of APGA.

erico2k2:
Ahaha you just dnt get it, have you done a referendum in you core 5 IGBO state
when you manage to achieve that then come back and talk,have you seen Rochas lately? with the way he is going he wont allow a Referendum in his stae

So as you can see, you dont care about the minorities, you dont care about what the Ogoja, Oron, Ananng, Itsekiri, Ibibio, Abi, Legbo and what the over 40 tribes in the south of Nigeria want. If you cared about what they want, you would want to hear them out, you eould want them to have a voice. It is a very rare thing for any of the minority tribes to have a say in Nigeria, so when someone like you claims to be from the minority but you cant even support a referendum that will give your ethnic group and other minorities a say, it means two things

Its either your just another Yoruba guy in Ibadan claiming to be one of the minorities (there are many of them here) or that you are an enemy of your people and you dont wish them well.

I listen to radio Biafra most nights, I know how much the minorities are calling in, lamenting about Nigeria. The other day, part of Radio Biafra was in Urohbo language. Many Urohbo people calling in and pledging support for Biafra in Urohbo language, lamenting that Nigeria has stolen all their oil and Gas money. I dont even understand Urohbo but listend to the English translation and learnt that blood means the same word in Urohbo and Igbo. Few days later, the broadcast was in Ibibio language which I dont understand. There were many many callers from Akwa -Cross who called in to suppport Biafra. Many of them proud that their son was the last president of Biafra. Some of them fought on the Biafran side said they had no regrets since Igbos were the closest tribe to them.

Many Ikwrres now call in apologising like the prodigal son, some saying their parents decieved them. Ijaws call in and even Ogoni. Everybody is saying the same, that they are tired of Nigeria.

But it is you who says Biafra is only for Igbos, it is you who cannot support a referendum for the minorities which you claim to belong to, it is you who doesnt care what other minority tribes want, you dont even care about their right to self determination. It is you shouting Rivers and Niger Delta but cant say anything about how these peoples life will be better inside Nigeria.

Guy, get a life. This struggle for freedom has gone past small fries like you.

erico2k2:
the problem is you lot are greedy and unsatisfied.There is no one I know in the whole of rivers who support Biafra, even the Igbo guys(two of them) working on my site last week nearly got battered if not for me cos they where ranting same thing you are doing on line,I have to send them home for peace to be.people like U jst hide on teh Net and E rant,if U get lever come out i n PH and vomit all this rubbish you are E-ranting on here, cowards.

So why are you not supporting a referendum which will prove you are right?

Charlyboy only asked Igbos to reflect on Biafra, he never said anything about abandoning it.

I think that Charleyboy should realise that nobody wants war. What we want is referendum. It is referendum that will force Nigerians to discuss Nigeria. The reasons why some people are messing up in some zones is their belief that Nigeria will always be one and the status quo will remain

It is time to have a frank and honest discussion on Nigeria

Is Nigeria a mistake of the British? Whis hasnt it worked? Is it condusive for all the ethnic groups? If yes, why did it consume 3 million Igbos? If no, why are we together. Why cant we have a sovereign conference in Nigeria? Why is anyone scared about Nigeria? Do Igbo/Yoruba/Hausa see each other as one?

erico2k2:
%80 in Rivers, Plz stop smoking that cheap stuff, its not helping you, You must be hearing voices, no wonder you lot are biegn slaughtered,
wake up, you are in a very bad dream.U are talking about Ogoni people, the Ikwere people are closer to the igbos than Ogonis who are closer to Ijaws.Even if we have a referendum today, I can assure you no one in the 5 niger delta state would reason IPOB.Both home and abroad.I have attended UPU meetings abroad(London)IPOB or Biafra is alian there. And not all Igbos even support IPOB. ie ROCHAS and his crew are busy with his friends in the North.The Niger Delta are seeking for resource control, different from thier own country.your Agenda is different deal with it we no follow.If you are so pained plz Join the next rally.stop making noise here.

So, support a referendum let the matter be cleared up one and for all. This is the same thing IPOB wants. So what is the problem?

freeay:
South East opinion leaders falling on one another to join APC. Their Subjects on nairaland shouting Biafra. Ayam not understanding.

Who and who is joininh APC? Besides Orji Uzo Kalu and Ken Nnamani, no one else cares about APC

Nigeria has always been a messed up place even before Nnamdi Kanu was born. Wether Kanu stays in jail or not will not change Nigeria from being a messed up place.

Igbo/ Yoruba/Hausa do not see themselves as brothers, they all have their mode of opration and different agendas

If anyone is hoping that Nigeria will progress from such disunity, they will hoping for a long time.

Nnamdi Kanu isnt the real issue, one man cannot threaten the unity of a country unless............................................... the country isnt actually united.

'One Nigeria' has already cost Igbos over 3 million souls, Nnamdi Kanu is yet to kill anyone.

Kanu isnt the problem of Igbos or Nigeria

Nigeria is the problem of Nigeria and the Igbos

As a proud Igbo man, I urge Ndigbo to reject any offer of the useless office of President of Nigeria. We dont need this office, it is a greek gift. A Trojan horse that will not be to our benefit.

Someone ask Yorubas what they gained from Obasunjos presidency? Nothing

Someone ask Ijaws what they gained from GeJ's tenure? Nothing.


Go to Daura and ask them what they have got out of Buharis near 2 years in office? Nothing


So what will presidency do for Igbos? Nothing


There are more important things than the presidency of Nigeria, Igbos should focus on them and shun that toxic office in Aso Rock.


Iberibe bu oria!

erico2k2:
Just to prove your silliness . I will say this
I ha e roots from Rivers and Delta state . Which comprises of Ikwere , Urhobo and Itshekiri . So I'm within my rights when I said all what I did . We do not support Biafra in our terotory . Simple.stick to your Igbo state next time you lots won't be so lucky . I'm not a supporter of PMB but Iit's say he had no hand in this.it was handwork of the state governor of Rivers if U don't know..I do t know what your point of argument it.Rivers is not Biafra simple

So are you speaking for Ijaw and Ogoni? What concerns you with them? If you really cared about Ikwerre or Urohbo or any minority in the south of Nigeria, you will support that they be given a voice to decide their destiny. You will support that there be referendum so everone can decide their fate. Dont know know that referendum is the best way for everyone in Rivers to reject Biafra forever with the power of their votes? But if you are saying that nobody should be given a voice, that nobody should be given an opportunity to decide their future through a referendum then what it means is that you are an enemy of your people. You dont really care about them.

In my experience, people who are afraid of referendum are those who know what the result will be. If there was a referendum, more than 80% of Rivers will vote Biafra, that what scares you.

These people dont even realise that Ojukwu even saved Adegboyes life by asking him to leave. Had Adegboye still been in the East when the watmr started, he might never have been heard of again.

IHEJIRIKAisBOKO:
I remember Nnamdi Kaniu, during his numerous hate broadcast, instructing the ibos to kill Pastor Adeboye, Pastor Kumuyi, and to burn down all Yoruba owned Churches in the South East.

If that worries then I wonder how you feel.about those who are actually killing people and burning churches?


If you are so concerned about Nnamdi Kanus words, how concerned are you about those who that already taking action?

Lagos/Ibadan expressway media have come up with another one

Ioannes:
Please go through my earlier posts and see that I support you guys.

I really want you to go.

As a matter of fact I have been banned several times for supporting biafra on this forum.

No we don't need you at all.

I see our cities decongested If you guys leave.

So for me is a good thing.

Good. To tell you the truth, I cant wait for the day Yorubas abd the Northerners will end up as 'one Nigeria'. I thats the only time Yorubas will see the real 'one Nigeria' in its true form.

erico2k2:
We get all the history likewise may places in Nigeria and of the world
The fact of the matter is 2017 there is a state called Rivers and a city called PHC . They don't want to be part of Biafra . Is that so hard to comprehend ?
If IPOB like they should also go to warri to protest there thier wallet will go missing . B4 army will wish them to Cont a inert in Koko
The governor of Rivers state Issued a statement long ago No IPOB rally in Rivers after the last time.
PS.all IPOB members as of today are IGBOS . No Ikwere , Ijaw,Itshekiri , Urhobo etc.Don't 4 hat speak volume ?
The Cross Rivers , Rivers , Bayelsa , Delta and Edo have thier own struggle . It's called Niger Delta and Biafra is not part of it.

Oh now I understand you............ so they are Nigerians because Lugard said so, they are Rivers because Gowon said so, it is Portharcourt because the Britush said so, it is Niger Delta, which is not even in the constitution, because Abacha said so.

So when do the people get to choose who they are?

You said they are not interested in Biafra? Did they elect you their spokes man? How do you know what the Igbos, Ijaw, Ogoni Ikwerre all want? If you think you know what they want then support a referendum like IPOB wants so that everybody can choose who they are rather than giving people useless names like Rivers, Niger Delta and Porthacourt. All these names came from Britain and are not African.

The Governor of Rivers can issue any statement he likes but as long as he has no power to ban the constitutional provision of freedom of expression, freedom of movement and freedom consciense, he should shut up.

You talked about Igbo? Learn not to talk outside your ethnic group. There are several ethnic groups in the south of Nigeria, they can speak for themselves. Dont attach to anyone in the name of a non existent 'Niger Delta'. What you should do is support a referendum let everyone decide what they want same as IPOB wants.


But once you start saying you know what Urohbo, Ijaw, Ogoni, Oron, Ogoja etc all want, then it is you who is looking for trouble

Im Igbo and I can tell who ever cares to listen that majority of Igbos dont care about the presidency of Nigeria. If that worthless office didnt help those who have held it before, it certainly wont help us Igbos.

Instead of them to be thanking Ojukwu for allowing them to leave with their lives!

Igbos living in other parts of Nigeria were not that lucky!

Ioannes:
But when GEJ got there you all became quiet and calm, especially when he decided to adopt the middle name "Azikiwe", fooling you guys to believe he is one of you.

Well he was defeated and you have decided to break you the country Because your man lost.

Ordinary second Niger bridge he could by build for you in 6years. Ntorrrr!!!!

Keep agitating.

You are ignorant. The countrty was broken long before Buhari came along. Dont forget that Igbos have been trying to get out of Nigeria since 1967 and fought a war to that effect, so dont make it as if this something that started with the election of Buhari.

But lets assume that the whole agitation is about Buharis victory. So why would you want to be with Igbos if they want to go for whatever reason? You cant do without them? Or is it becuase Lugard came in 1914 to tell you that we are all Nigerians? Why will you want to be with people who dont want you?

erico2k2:
Thank God you said use to be.but not anymore . Ireland used to be UK . Ukraine use to be Russian .
What just happened is a reminder to IPOB and thier likes that Rivers has nothing to do with Biafra . We support them but we are not part of it.So the best thing to do is keep to thier 5 core Igbo state .
If Imo state decides it does not want to be part of Biafra are the IPOB members going to force them??don't you see where I'm coming from.

Sorry bro, Biafra is not an Igbo only thing like you may have been led to believe. The last president of Biafra, Geberal Philip Effiong, was not even an Igbo man. The word Biafra is atrached to the 'Bight of Biafra' which communties such Ijaw, Ogoni, Ibibio live along. Those people are even more Biafra than Igbos.


The place you are calling Portharcourt city was only given this name by the British in 1912 in honor of the then colonial minister, Lord Vernon Harcourt. Before then, the original name of the place was called 'Igweocha'. Every Igbo man can tell you what this means. So cure your self of ignorance

psucc:
100℅

Let's buy new car(restructure)

No, let us go and find different vehicles, being in one vehicle has become too stuffy (disintegration)

erico2k2:
Must IPOB protest in PHC ? Or.where trying to draw attention to include PHC as IPOB terotery

So you dont know that Portharcourt used to be in the first Republic of Biafra?