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frednest@yahoo.:
its like u dnt have knowledge of coronary heart disease or coarctation of aorta,so in that case u should go bck to skol. The consultant was treating symptom and ignoring the root.

frednest@yahoo.:
Medical lab scientist tells Doctors wat to do. Imagine a case of an innocent patient with high BP met a consultant dat prescribed drugs for her,but she insisted for a test but he turned it down,but the woman was not satisfy and went straight to d lab and got tested and her result shows dat she has hyperlipidaemia,and went to dat same hospital but unfortunately she didn't meet d consultant but met d Reg. In fact,the Reg almost fainted and apologize on his behalf and tell her to cancel dat drug that d consultant wrote and prescribed another drug. So tell me who is now supreme in patient diagnosis? Who is now saving lives? Doctors claim dey know laboratory cos they did it skol common interpretation of lab result they cannot,now they are sending Resident doctors in pathology to come and learn how to do lab test from med lab scientist. Med lab scientist said no unless they go back to skol and read med lab science,they said dey are going on strike. Do your profession and leave others profession alone,jack of all trade but master of none.

Cityguy: OK, what drug did the resident prescribe? The statins? And that brought the BP down? Tell us what followed as this is not enough. If I happen to be the said consultant, that resident will repeat his rotation over and over again till he knows his position in the scheme of things!!!

frednest@yahoo.:
Everybody in medics are all medically inclined enough for one group to say they are jack of all trade. For God sake! Wat is medicine and surgery in health institution? Every dept in skol of medical science cut across each oda,that why everybody in different dept in medical skol pass through the core course of medicine and surgery,which is:physiology,biochemistry and anatomy which is the basic and core couses in medical skol, Clinicals are modification of these courses. If not for laws for each profession in health,if given the chance can't an Anatomist perform surgery?if a medical lab scientist can diagnose and and also know the specific drug so I wonder why doctors will say they know it all? When our hospitals were run by health administrative nigeria hospitals were competing then in Africa because the system were working. But now strike everyday,misdiagnoses,wrng prescription and death. Nigeria health is now ranked 52 in africa. Let health admin take over so that harmony will come to our health system.

sinie: Its no more generalisation and definitely not Minute if its constant. I have worked in a teaching hospitals and don't even let me start on the mistakes I see EVERYDAY else we won't leave here. Your fellow doctors come into my pharmacy and ask ME what to write in their prescription. And YES I change doctors prescription ALL THE TIME. And if I feel the drug is wrong and the doctor refused to change it I DO NOT dispense it. Am not going to be responsible for causing a patient harm because of a doctor's arrogance. Am not going to say the name of the hospital I work cos of the anonymity of this forum but we pharmacist go to your clinical meetings to TEACH u guys HOW to write prescriptions. The clinical presentation from companies is just pharmacits teaching doctors about new drugs and advancements in medicine. When I worked in OnG pharmacy I TELL some ignorant doctors EVERYDAY what drugs and antibiotic a woman for CS should take. And yes if a doctors gives me a prescription that's wrong I tell him to change it. I don't care if his 'consultant' was the one that wrote it. Then he should tell his 'consultant' to change it.
Now all these is deviating from the issue which is 'should non doctors head hospitals' and the answer is a big yes. Don't confuse us with wikepidea entries. No one expects a nurse to be a Chief medical Officer or a doc to be a Chief Nursing officer. But who should he the hospital administrator. The 'CEO' of the hospital? the answer? Anyone with good administrative and managerial training. Shikena!!

sinie: Excuse me. I know PLENTY about the medical field and I will say it again and again. If not for pharmacist's intervention most patients will go home with the drugs prescribed for the and 'poison' hemselves. If the pharmacist should document ever medication Error the doctors make in his. prescription. Ranging from wrong drug to wrong dose and interactions, I swear nobody will ever take a drug prescribed by a doctor without a pharmacist's advice. Just yesterday my sister was just talking casually about the drug she was placed on and I noticed that she taking the same drug both IV and tablet. I asked her to ask the doctor when he was giving her both IV and tablet @ the same time and when she asked him he said it was a 'mistake'. If that hospital was a standard hospital with a pharmacist on duty will such a 'mistake' have been made? That's just one out of millions of examples of ways pharms help doctors prevent 'mistakes' everyday. And you are claiming they are more knowledgeable aboùt drugs than pharms. Don't display your ignorance...
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sinie: Excuse me. I know PLENTY about the medical field and I will say it again and again. If not for pharmacist's intervention most patients will go home with the drugs prescribed for the and 'poison' hemselves. If the pharmacist should document ever medication Error the doctors make in his. prescription. Ranging from wrong drug to wrong dose and interactions, I swear nobody will ever take a drug prescribed by a doctor without a pharmacist's advice. Just yesterday my sister was just talking casually about the drug she was placed on and I noticed that she taking the same drug both IV and tablet. I asked her to ask the doctor when he was giving her both IV and tablet @ the same time and when she asked him he said it was a 'mistake'. If that hospital was a standard hospital with a pharmacist on duty will such a 'mistake' have been made? That's just one out of millions of examples of ways pharms help doctors prevent 'mistakes' everyday. And you are claiming they are more knowledgeable aboùt drugs than pharms. Don't display your ignorance...
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mintyx: Im enjoying this thread. Its filled with intelligent people, the ignoramus, the arrogant etc. I just want say something about a post by @Ziga that claims that doctors know more than druggist! I see that as a lie from the pit of hell!
A druggist researches on an ailment, mixes chemicals to produce a drug, tests the drug on laboratory animals and humans and based on his findings, he formulates the right dosage the drug can be used to achieve maximum result, the doctor uses it and the credit goes to him! Yeah i dont have a problem with doctors getting the credit but im just wondering how arrogance can blurr some folks vision not to see that a difference exist here. Im not a druggist though!

Chief Medical Officer
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Chief Medical Officer (CMO) is the title used in many countries for the senior government official designated head of medical services, usually at the national level. The post is held by a physician who serves to advise and lead a team of medical experts on matters of public health importance.[1]
The post of Chief Medical Officer dates back to Victorian times.[2] The equivalent title may go under different names across countries, for example known as the Surgeon General in the United States and the Chief Public Health Officer in Canada.

sinie: So what you are saying is doctors know about drugs than the drug experts themselves. That's just plain arrogance....

Samdurance: Hahahahahahahahaha Best brain indeed. Doctors this days are pushed either by money or influence. Emdex is the Doctors Guide this days. Please don't make me laugh again. Doctors these days are really not capable of their jobs. Instead they lay their incapability to the Nurses and Lab. Scientists. So Bad.

speedyboi: Godbless you.



Pathetic! So this one is even using movies. Mtcheew.



[b]on another note, Doctors are just one overhyped people in Nigeria and that has given them their overbloated ego. If you ask me, nurses are one of (if not only) irreplaceable tools in the hospital (my findings) and I think they are much more important than these Doctors. Why? Most of Doctors' role can be played by a Nurse or any other medical practitioner (except surgery; which can also be done by a Nurse practitioner when Surgeons are not readily available. And besides, the readily available Physicians can't perform major surgeries as well). A nurse can't be replaced (and that's why they get higher pay abroad unlike this our Nigeria).

Has anyone noticed that whenever doctors are on strike in Nigeria (which happens quite often), the hospital still operates normally and patients don't feel the absence (though other health practitioners will feel it Cos they will be stressed)? But one time that I witnessed Nurses' strike, all Government hospitals turned into a ghost town . That's when I began to value the roles of Nurses higher than all these 'DOCTORS'[/b].-----Before anyone quote me, note that its just something I noticed. And that's my view. Ciao

kalokalo: This is not true. The current US Secretary of Health and Human Services, Kathleen Sebelius, is NOT a medical doctor. She is a politician who was a former governor in the State of Kansas. She studied Political Science and has a Masters in Public Administration. Hospitals in the US are usually headed by health administrators who are NOT doctors.

Chief Medical Officer
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Chief Medical Officer (CMO) is the title used in many countries for the senior government official designated head of medical services, usually at the national level. The post is held by a physician who serves to advise and lead a team of medical experts on matters of public health importance.[1]
The post of Chief Medical Officer dates back to Victorian times.[2] The equivalent title may go under different names across countries, for example known as the Surgeon General in the United States and the Chief Public Health Officer in Canada.

kalokalo: This is not true. The current US Secretary of Health and Human Services, Kathleen Sebelius, is NOT a medical doctor. She is a politician who was a former governor in the State of Kansas. She studied Political Science and has a Masters in Public Administration. Hospitals in the US are usually headed by health administrators who are NOT doctors.

Ochek: Who ignorant pass you?
According to ur post : Some nurse practitioners work in clinics without doctor supervision.
Others work together with doctors as
a joint health care team.
What else are you trying to prove? Try reason well abeg.

ziga: At least if you never travel overseas... Dem dey show Scrubs, House, Gray's anatomy on top DSTV.

Go watch am to see whether dem CMO na Doctor or Babalawo.

Shior. Kelebe.

Ochek: I truely wonder why one should be using a movie as a basis of his points. It's like saying that, at every hour, american security is on the chase of a terrorist about to let one bomb go off on the american soil as in season 24.
And thanks for pointing out to those who know nothing about the medical hierarchy. In that movie, a surgeon was and that contradicts their basis.

hairyman: You may do well to research before you make any statement. Quite a lot of departments at john hopkins are managed and have been managed by non-physicians

speedyboi: See question. Why not? That's how it is in other countries. Not like a country filled with backward people called Nigerians where Doctors and their overbloated ego are seen ås ontop of the world (funny enough, most of them know nothing). Medicine is just like everyother courses in health & Clinical sciences; they shouldn't have any special rights.
But, Nigerians are full of stereotypes anyways


@Bolded, So is Nursing.

AMDCP Board of Directors

Board members serve a three year term. Terms expire in the year noted in parentheses.
Bruce Robinson, MD, CMD (2014) Chair

Thomas Edmondson, MD, CMD(2014) Vice Chair

Sabine Maria von Preyss-Friedman, MD, CMD(2015) Secretary/Treasurer

Rebecca L. Ferrini, MD, MPH, CMD (2013)

M. Rosina Finley, MD, CMD (2013)

Melinda Henderson, MD, CMD (2015)

Robert G. Kaplan, MD, CMD (2014)

Thomas S. Lehner, MD, CMD (2013) Immediate past chair Randolph E. Schumacher, MD, CMD (2015)

alfaman2: It seems to me that everybody (maybe not the yorubas) want to be on their own. Northerners want their own country with their sharia laws. Easterners had always wanted independence and have even fought a bloody war for that. Even the so called minorities are clamouring for self determination. MEND, Middle belt youths, etc.
So why are we still together? Is the yorubas holding everybody to ransom or are there some other forces that I don't understand?

tunapawizzy: DEVELOP SATELLITE SETTLMENTS.....DO ANYTHING TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE MIGRATING OUT OF LAGOS....WORK IN SYNERGY WITH NEIGHBOURING STATE GOVERNORS......THE PROBLEM IS OVER POPULATION, PEOPLE SHOULD MOVE OUT AND FOR THAT TO HAPPEN, AN ALTERNATIVE MUST BE PROVIDED

Kay-Dee:
[size=13pt] Funny !!! when you install a camera for monitoring, your eyes are not fixed on the TV every single minute of the day, that's why they had alarms (sound) too. [/size]

hamsky: The topic of this thread is very misleading "Former Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak is suffering from problems with his breathing and blood pressure but is not in a coma, an interior ministry spokesman has told the BBC."

Read more here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-18398143