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somehow:which government university is not with ASUU, as far as I know it was only uni ilorin and they are back with ASUU. Even at that, they were not and are currently not the best federal university in Nigeria. So, i don't understand your point. Look, simply give me a proof that our universities are adequately funded compared to even contemporary countries in Africa. Regardless of whether ASUU is fighting for improved welfare they are right. Their salaries are very poor by the way. Poor facilities etc are all as a result of government neglect. So what exactly are you people defending government for? I don't get it |
gaius01:The people who had the guts to even break prison for convicts to escape are even the worst |
somehow:If not because of the strikes, the university system would have turned to that of primary schools now. The little monies released were done due to the strikes. Of course this is the only way for now, as long as people like you refuse to back ASUU and stop government irresponsibility. Go and look at governments sponsorship of education in the countries will like to use and spite Nigeria, it is tremendous. Even countries in Africa as the Prof mentioned are far ahead of us in public education management. Education is quite expensive and cannot be funded the way we are doing. |
babtoundey:But what other measures? Our government doesn't understand anything apart from the strike. If not for the strikes, the little respect for the public universities would have totally gone. Even the corruption in all facets of Nigeria is driven by government. So the government is still the genesis of everything. Worse still, if the money needed to find our education system was made available and embezzled, one would know where to vent ones anger, but the money is not even there. Go and look at education budget and compare with the nations will like making reference to |
Decimus:Forget pandemic, was there pandemic from 2009, 2013? read the interview again. Even when the ASUUA asked government to present another structured payment plan, no body answered them. Again ask NASU, SSANU that are currently on strike because of IPPIS if they taking multiple jobs as well. In that light your multiple job argument does not hold water at all. |
somehow:Because the government has consistently refused to honor agreements that would have transformed the life of a Nigerian student. But it is no fault of ASUU in fighting for the right thing. Nigerians need to wake up and support them in making the government responsible and not castigating them the way some of you are doing |
babtoundey:point is put the blame on the door step of the government. There is nothing like look beyond here. Did you see anything like salary increment of ASUU members in all of the discussion? Rather you see earned allowances which is different from salary. How much does a prof take home monthly as salary by the way? That the Nigerian student is suffering is no fault of ASUU but govt. Would you rather prefer lectures are delivered under mango trees as it is obtainable in primary schools now? No equipped labs, overcrowded lecture rooms, deplorable hostels or total lack of it. The school fees paid by Nigerian students is meagre and no funds from government. What do you want ASUU to do? Keep chinning out paper degrees that are irrelevant in labour market? Go for an interview with your CU counterpart and see who will be the preferred candidate. We have to be sincere with ourselves here |
Decimus:Please I totally disagree with you that the cause of the strike is payment platform. Google the timeline of the current strike and you will see. Like the Prof said, the five points were the cause of the strike as govt did not honour the 2013 agreements. The IPPIS issue came up like two months after ASUU began their strike, making it a sixth point. The solution is simple, government should honor its agreements with ASUU and stop grandstanding. Why are they insincere? You negotiate something on a roundtable, agree, but all of a sudden trash it. |
21cents:Please stop muddling things up here and be more smart in your argument. The university system is headed by the VC who is in charge of University administration and is not a member of ASUU as a body. Again you agree with me that the government should take blame, what is the work of ICPC, EFCC, NUC if you are insinuating corruption in the system? And by the way, the money released by government which you are exaggerating is like a pin in ocean compare with the problems the universities are facing. A 1.2 trillion agreement was signed and about 1.1trillion is outstanding after seven years and you are shamelessly supporting government |
Decimus:So I that ASUU fault or the government who is supposed to be doing the right thing. Instead of holding the government responsible, we prefer doing shot cut. This is the reason why we may never prosper as a nation, while the government gets everything wrong, the priorities of the citizens who are supposed to be holding the government responsible are even worse |
Decimus:This is not the first time and may not be the last as long as our government continue to be useless. They are going to pay for the months, I assure you. Why can't they honor agreements they signed after long time? This is what many of you fail to see. Have you gone to the public schools and seen the deplorable state of facilities? The universities are poorly funded but everyone blame ASUU, why? Look at our primary and secondary schools now, they are in shambles and the same thing is happening to the universities |
babtoundey:Why the strike on before salary issue came? Google and answer yes or no, then you will see how naive you are |
somehow:if the students are not useless, they should rise against the government and not ASUU, who are trying their best to improve public universities |
Decimus:Oga don't give head ache to yourself. All the monies owed them will be paid to the last penny and there is nothing you can do. Do you think going on strike is illegal in labour disputes? Some of you will just be saying what you don't know |
babtoundey:Did you even read the interview? For crying out loud, ASUU went on strike base on the five points agenda as stated in the opening question. The issue of IPPIS which resulted to withheld salaries came later in the ongoing strike. So what is your point exactly? This is what the prof is trying to say, many people cannot read a simple article and comprehend properly due to the poor state of our public schools |
Coldie:Chai, see reasoning. Who does that and the sector survives? Please don't ever think this way. |
cenaman:Your question is actually more useless than the two. |
Jasonjack:please stay on the question I answered and stop childish display. The question is, can't CACOVID distribute the palliative to all the states at a single simultaneous period? And my answer is what you quoted. Politicians can distribute to their girlfriends as you said as CACOVID sent the products to the warehouses they provided. But your interjection is completely off point in the context of my submission. |
vanbonattel:No, you cannot do that. The quantity involved is in millions and the logistics also will be a huge challenge, especially at the height of covid. The companies producing these may not even have the capacity to store the quantities, hence there was reasonable decision by CACOVID to rely on government to provide storage facilities. In summary, what you looking at as an easy task is not as easy as you think if you look beyond the surface |
Sunnycliff:How long has the Nigerian military been killing them? Just that you chose to see what you want to see, but that's your opinion. However, fighting terrorism is not child's play as many Nigerians especially talk it to be. For me, I will always give kudos to the military for their efforts and not disparage them. At least BH senseless carnage is highly limited to a certain area, thanks to Nigerian military |
Sunnycliff:if you think to fight and defeat a terrorist group is bread and butter, go and ask US, UK, plus their NATO. How long it took them with all their sophistication to tame Al quada, US and their coalition are finding a backdoor escape from the Talibans today. And don't come with the rag tag ish about BH, last time I checked, they ranked top 3 in the most dangerous terrorist groups category world wide. Kudos to the Nigerian military in keeping BH at Bay in the North East and not letting them consume us all |
PaschalWooden:stop misleading people. Buhari is talking about deaths Nationwide. And can you show us where Buhari said nobody died? His uninspiring speech even acknowledged that people died. Sanwo Olu was talking about lekki shootings when he said nobody died, but later acknowledged two deaths thereafter from the incident. Or are you finding is difficult to understand the news. Simply put, the news is about people who sadly died during the protests nationwide and is not about lekki shootings alone |
Odunolumide:Who said that? Even the president's speech acknowledged deaths. Why will you be thinking nobody died? |
jlinkd78:Were the figures mentioned specific to the lekki shootings? Femi was specifically talking about lekki shootings, the president is talking about recorded deaths during the protests nationwide. Two different things apart. And for the records, Buhari mentioned about people that died during the struggle in his speech, go and read again. He didn't mention the lekki shootings though, but that does not mean you should be mixing things up the way you did, which can result to misinformation I am just trying to throw more light on your mix up, so don't pick offence and start name calling |
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Islie:some people claim 78 or more. Who do we believe now? |
He is right, no sovereign country would have said otherwise. Almost all of them are complicit in far worse crimes around the globe and get away with it. We should handle our government our way. UN, US, UK etc are all a bunch of hypocrites |
Ebenezer2021:You are a bit naive and ignorant at the same time. Do you know how many times ASUU used this tactic only for the government to totally back out? Don't think you know more than those lecturers fighting for their rights and that of the public universities, which are glorified secondary schools due to gross negligence by government. I wonder why people still look at ASUU as the bad guys, why politicians steal money in billions meant for development including the education sector. FG should better man up and fulfill all previous agreements and improve our public institutions instead of grandstanding |
Nazgul:But was the strike really about IPPIS? They were already on strike due to non implementation of various agreements with government. The IPPIS issue came in later |
LibertyRep:There is nothing arrogant about ASUU on IPPIS. It is all about a group of people who know their right and exercise it when needed. Why must they accept IPPIS which is full of errors regarding their payments. An employee should never look at himself as a slave to the employer. You are offering hard earned skills to whoever employ you and they are doing you no favor by employing you in the first place. |
ASUU should just hold on for the real issues to be resolved. Our public universities are nothing to write home about. |
BennyDGreat:If they were genuine in there searching and asking these questions, it wouldn't be any issue. However, their major aim is to extort people and not to catch criminals. |
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