₦airaland Forum

Mysticwebb:
Meaning I will need to recapture or what?

I don't know their position on expired cards o

cassyrooy:
No, it is from the day they issued your card.

What are you telling me? It is when you were captured, shebi is what I have with me. I captured in 2015 thereabout, collected around 2018 and it expired 2020.

Mysticwebb:
I have waited for 7yrs and still counting. Got registered in 2013. Till date no permanent or original card as you called it.

Funny enough, the expiry duration on it is 5 years from when you were captured. This means yours has already expired even before receiving it. Mine expired two years after I received it

They went to court and got an order to stop the local football competition? Wonderful

Veqtor:
The time to act is now. The govt is Fulani, it's d most nepotistic in the history of Nigeria, so don't expect it to help you.

Also don't expect d security agents to help you, cos it's tainted. It's an open truth that all of d armed forces are headed by the Fulani.

Which is why d police would arrest murderous herdsmen when you file a complaint, and release them almost as soon as they arrest them.

They know they will always go scot free under this regime, that is why they kill continuously.

That's what you get when you vote in a foreign Fulani parasite to rule your country.

Stand up nd fight for urselves cos no one will help you.

I think the issue of insecurity has gone beyond the narrative of fulani government. How can one explains the banditery in Kastsina, the home state of the president? Both farmers and fulani cattle rearers are victims of these crimes in those states, infact the rate of crime affecting them in their home states has made them migrated massively to the southern part of the country, causing a lot of the crises we are witnessing. Poor economic policies, corruption all leading to joblessness and poverty over the years is the result we are bearing today, insecurity

The same dumb people calling the man a fool for not collecting bribe must have insulted our corrupt leaders and participated in endsars. What a confused people

Dpharisee:
That problem of pivot pulling out was sorted out from Civic 2006 upwards

No civic from the beginning pulls. Maybe you are mistaken it for accord.

Chelsea has not played any shot on target since morning o

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Funny how people read news and interpret it to suite their narrative. From what I read, Falana did not attribute the dead bodies to "Lekki massacre. Yet, some people are already crucifying him or glorifying him with Lekki massacre at the center.
I tend to agree with him that many people died during the protests especially when criminals took over. Dead bodies were not uncommon in most parts of Lagos. Quite unfortunate that lives were lost.

walosky:
How can Golf3 carry ten passengers?


DID I READ WELL AT ALL?

I was wondering as well. Can it be possible?

Reasonable budget if well implemented

What is DISVIRGIN?

What sort of heading is this? How can you say a dead screaming man. The man wasn't dead in the first place

Wickedfact:
Not a bad job at all. But someone who was a vendor while alive, only for him to die and the family now hired Ozekhome. The money should have been used to set him up in business while alive. The family are very stupid people.

Don't be surprised it is ozhekome that called the family to do that. They may not pay him a kobo for a start. Of the money on demand, I am sure the same ozhekome must have agreed to take 50 percent or more.

Deepthoughts:
It's the fault of the government, the police here are not given the authority they need to enforce the law, I'm sure if those police had kill those hoodlums Nigerian would have claim they hoodlums were innocent without investigation,the public would then go on rampage n the government will descend on the police officers,so to avoid all these problems since orders were not forthcoming the officers had to abandoned the stations for their safety, isn't it ironical that the primary duty of the police is to enforce the law n protect life n properties yet Nigerians do not want the police to use force but instead to be at their Beck and call,the description of police as public servant in Nigeria is very wrong,most times I just pity the police.

Very apt and sensible comment. If police had injured or killed any of those criminals, the same people calling them cowards will be all over here shouting police brutality. I am sure in the saner climes Nigerians like referencing, no one can try this nonsense attack on law enforcers and live to tell the story.

thesicilian:
You know this and you continue to take so much pride in it?


It is a well known psychological fact that people of low IQ usually resort to offensive language when they don't understand the topic of discussion



No, for loosing the weapons in the first place in such a cowardly manner to unarmed/poorly armed hoodlums. Now they are parading the suspects as if they've carried out a heroic act, forgetting all the grief and sorrow they've caused various families in town by letting the hoodlums access to those guns.

What would you have them do in such a situation? A mass attack on a station that will probably be less than 10 personnel. If they injured or killed any of those guys, we will come here shouting police brutality again. And trust me if those guys caught any of them, they would have roasted them as they did others

obstead200:
u did a 5 years course....as a student.

I have worked in the system, in a very strategic position that placed me very close to the school management. I think I should know better.

But there is no evidence to that. How many lecturers has been dragged by anti corruption agencies for mismanagement of University funds? These funds are never under their direct control hence you cannot hold them responsible. That is the more reason why what you are saying here is at the best in the realm of speculation and can hardly be substantiated. The revitalisation funds will never come under the control of ASUU so I wonder how they will corner it

obstead200:
oga, quote me anywhere. 80% of whatever revitalisation funds released by the govt will end directly in the pockets of the lecturers. They will blackmail, harass and arm twist the VCs and the bursar's until this is done.

I have seen it happen several times.

Forget stories ASUU uses to screen their true intentions. The only thing they ALWAYS want is more money for Thier own pockets. Every other thing does not count for them.

I don't agree with you on this. I did a five year course in a public University and I understand what goes on. Lecturers will not harass the bursar or VC on anything. Mostly, the administrative staff comprising the VC and Bursar are the ones implicated in corruption cases. That aside, if ASUU harasses them on anything, don't they have channels to report it. For crying out loud, the NUC, ICPC and EFCC are there. How will the money get to ASUU? How much does ASUU get from, example TETFUND that has done at least some infrastructures on the campuses? If an incompetent VC is not capable of managing the funds given to his university, he should take the blame himself. Nobody should use ASUU as a scapegoat. And if the government cannot monitor these funds through their numerous anti corruption bodies, then government itself should not blame any one. As far as I am concerned, everything stops on the government table. Let them properly fund the universities, built infrastructures, pay lecturers well and stop grandstanding. Look at the countries you make reference to even in Africa and compared their education sponsorship with ours and you will understand.

obstead200:
Without denying the fact that our politicians are very corrupt, I will categorically state that most agreements they enter with ASUU was done without due consultation and with self serving objectives. They usually rush into such agreements to hide their own corruption while boosting Thier political prospects. Now ASUU understands this fact about our useless politicians hence they capitalise on it to make ridiculous and bogus demands, which they would subsequently hold the govt to and start armtwisting them to get make a point. This is equally and specifically a very corrupt and unpatriotic thing to do. 2 wrongs do not make a right.

Read the above to get my perspective. The summary is that ASUU corruption is not the type where u can charge them to court since their is no provision for such in the criminal code. It is more moral than criminal. (It is like a lawyer's corruption. He is corrupt in such a way that his actions can cause grievious harm to his opponent and others, yet he is, strictly speaking, still operating within the ambits of the law.) This is just as bad as criminal corruption, in my opinion.
When I say ASUU is corrupt, I am not even referring to their dealings with students. That one is another matter altogether.

You are still not making a clear and coherent point here. What is morally wrong about revitalisation fund for universities when we all know they are grossly underfunded? What is wrong about visitation panels to universities to assess their decayed infrastructures and other needs? What is wrong in trying to correct the proliferation of state universities while the established ones are not faring better than advance secondary schools? What about earned allowances? What is wrong about paying you your allowances you earned? Is not as if government is denying they earned it, they are outrightly owing them the allowances. Many times, people are bias towards ASUU for no just cause. You are accusing them of moral corruption but you cannot exactly fault them correctly on all there demands to government. Let us be objective here for once

obstead200:
ASUU is very corrupt. The reason they always succeed in bamboozling the FG and getting away with it is because the FG negotiators and decision makers is made up of a bunch of daft, incompetent and self-serving bastards who do not possess the intellect nor the wits to match the corrupt cunning of ASUU members. Put me and my likes in that team, give us a year with full autonomy to do and act as we please and we will bring ASUU to its knees

If only you can channel this your zealous energy in fighting your politicians that corruptly enriched themselves, are still enriching themselves and wii continue enriching themselves in billions of dollars of Nigerian money, Nigeria will be better. How much is budgeted for the whole education sector in the first place? And what project do you think lecturers undertake that they embezzle money? Or how much do you think they get from students compare to your senator that even refused to let you know how much he collects? Moreso what is the useless government doing about the alleged corrupt lecturers, considering that government owns EFCC, ICPC, NUC etc?

sujexy:
I didn't Interject Ignorantly.
I have been aware of what has been Happening between FG and ASUU since 2009.
But in all these, the students suffer and keeps suffering. How do you juxtapose the clean intentions of ASUU and the careless action of Government?

A member of ASUU is the VP now they can reach out to him for quality negotiation, there are still ways of dealing with this without making the poor students the Boxing Platform.

My point is ASUU is not to take blame. Do you think they have not done all these? Do you know the level of consultation ASUU put on before going on strike? The other day, ASUU president was explaining the pains they go through. From traditional rulers to different levels of politicians to government agencies, all for mediation and nothing works. The only time FG tend to behave as if something is happening is when they strike.
With the position of Prof Yemi now, he can no longer be regarded as a member of ASUU, on the contrary he is now a staunch member of the government and politicians. His interest and loyalty is with the government and not the other way round. It is quite unfortunate that our government is so insensitive and understand only strike as a spoken language. It is very unfair that students suffer most in all of these.

sujexy:
I graduated long ago from a private University.


Did that solve the problem you are creating in elongating student's stay in School?

Then you don't have the requisite knowledge to contribute effectively on the subject matter. Little wonder, you interjected ignorantly the way you did.
For your information I graduated in a public University and I am not a lecturer. However lecturers are not to be blamed in any way for students staying at home, the government should be held solely responsible. Tell me, you sit on a round table, negotiate, agree and sign a plan of action, then the government will totally renege for no reason, why will there not be unrest. Then, the situation in the universities keeps becoming dire by the day. The public universities are fast becoming like the already killed public primary schools and secondary schools. Government need to live up to its responsibilities and stop all these grandstanding.

sujexy:
A very careless statement that Endsars protesters kept making during their protest....
You are fighting for your welfare legit (We all know that the whole revitalization song is a smokescreen, the real issue has always been IPPIS) and you want everyone to bear with you, when you won't be ready to bear with them in their own wahala. Keeping them at home when all odds are stacked against the students is insensitivity. You guys can always get your salaries and allowances back, but will students get the time wasted back?

I will support the Government if they choose to open the schools using force after this last meeting! Enough of Nonsense!!!!

unfortunately for you, government knows it cannot do a thing. This is the major problem, the Nigerian student. Instead of you to stand up and support ASUU in demanding for a better learning environment as it is obtainable in your favorite saner climes quote, you prefer overcrowded classrooms, non equipped laboratories and non existent general infrastructures. These are all as a result of poor funding of education sector while the same people you are supporting are stealing billions meant for the good of you. Is UTAS going to increase lecturers salaries? Will ASUU collect the revitalisation fund so far released to the universities? The answer is no. All of you prefer to graduate with nothing in your brains, a science student not knowing what a microscope is or cannot not differentiate a lab equipment from lab apparatus. Then, there will be cries of no jobs while your counterpart from covenant etc are rejecting jobs.

Ceenelly:
Now we know better, it was all about the money and not the general welfare of our universities. You want to continue receiving salaries from different higher institution at same time, a country that is battling unemployment will have a single lecturer employed in more than two to three universities at same time

Don't be biased in your thinking. Just last week, Ngige stated the monies the FG agreed to release for universities funding (not ASUU salary). The contention on salaries is about payment platform which is not suitable to them. Others who joined are already regretting as you read up there. So, stop blaming ASUU unnecessary

9jatriot:
Every statement ASUU makes has always been in how bad IPPIS is so do not blame us when IPPIS is all we hear. Unionism as practiced in this regards is done wrongly. If you do not like your work and call it slavery, you resign.
Try and work for an Indian company then you will understand the real meaning of slavery, not this one you can afford not to go to work and fellow workers will cover for you.
The worst of all of these are state Universities ASUU joining a stupid strike that does not even concern them.

Please read the extract from ASUU president interview with punch just last week below and maybe you will have more understanding of what I said.
I do not understand your definition of wrong practice of unionism. Of course union protect their interest by the way. Government has to be responsible and stop misbehaving. Look at the state of public universities in every aspect, it is terrible and is purely governments irresponsibility.

What is the update on the seven-month strike embarked on by university teachers?
Nothing has changed significantly. We have presented our issues. We started with five, and we now have six issues. These are revitalization of universities; renegotiation of 2009 agreement; visitation panels to universities; proliferation of universities, particularly by state governments and of course Earned Academic Allowances (EAA) of members.

The starting point is to say that those were outstanding issues from the memorandum of agreement signed with the government on February 7, 2019, which the government has not done anything significant to address. But since then, Integrated Payroll and Personnel Information System (IPPIS) has been elevated almost over and above these other issues earlier highlighted. Recall that it was as a result of that we engaged the government on developing an alternative to IPPIS; which we have since developed to an advanced stage. We have presented it to the minister of education and members of his team, the Senate President, and to a larger audience in the office of the Accountant-General of the Federation, where all major stakeholders were represented – Ministries of Labour and Unemployment; Education, Office of the Accountant-General itself, Finance and, of course, experts from the Nigeria Information Technology Development Agency (NITDA), the body that regulates information technology development in the country.

We have done all those presentations and the general impression was that our alternative, called University Transparency and Accountability Solution (UTAS), is superior to IPPIS. However, because of the need to fulfill the requirement of integrity test, we were expected to follow up on that.

We believed that with all that we have done, the government has no reason to withhold salaries of our members, which in some cases, are five months now, and in some other cases, as many as eight or nine months, including their EAA, salaries and check-off dues of our union. As long as they continue to withhold the salaries of our members, they are not paving way for smooth resolution of the crisis. We are at that point where we need to resolve the issue of mode of payment for what the government owes our members. We feel that some agents of the government could be doing this to escalate the crisis, even though the government has made promises about the five issues we raised, we are yet to see them activated.

9jatriot:
1: If I work in GTB and I am no longer interested in their terms and condition, I will move to another bank or sulk it up. Same with Total, NNPC, Shell and co. Going on strike over payment platform when you know you must get paid is fraud if you ask me. I can understand strike for non payment of salary but more than 7 months strike over a payment platform is an overkill if you ask me.
2: I will have a look at the law you posted. later, thanks for it. My experience has shown me that laws can be interpreted by both parties to suit their needs. FG can claim that university council are only acting as caretaker or representatives. In any case, you guys need to know that if you keep pushing this law to the face of FG, they will just send an amendment to NASS and sign a new law into place in no time. E non hard to do if u ask me. Striking over a payment platform not that they are owing you is in my opinion ward below decency.

1. The greatest mistake some of you are making is pinning the current strike on IPPIS. ASUU has repeatedly explained the five points contained in an agreement signed with FG I'm 2013. The violation of the agreement initiated the current strike. IPPIS which became a sixth issue came up after the strike on the five points began.
And employees are never slaves to their employers and should not just answer yes to any thing the employer says. Under labour laws, unionism is a right and strike is one of the tools used in settling labour disputes.
I feel our government is grossly insincere in almost everything including their issues with ASUU. Agreements will be signed amicably and government will simply renege without reasons and without responding to series of enquiry by ASUU. Of course, ASUU will resort to strike which is the only language any Nigerian government listens to. It is sad that many youths are caught up in this irresponsible circle orchestrated by the successive insensitive governments

Eriokanmi:
Haaaa stop lying . I'm .still in Lagos. I'd take my time to snap some pictures today.They've not been fixed as at weekend. Brb

Please don't call me a liar. I mentioned my route which I even drove through this morning. If you are snapping, go to Fatai Atere way, linking Agege motor road, there is a functional light, come to ikeja underbridge near LASUTH, all the lights are functional, and then to Oba-Akran at Adeniyi Jones, that one even stopped me this morning. Don't say all the lights are vandalized hence the chaotic traffic last week. Maybe the ones in your area were, but not everywhere is like that.

Eriokanmi:
which road signal you wan make dem obey when all the traffic lights have been vandalised by the irate youths? In Lagos, no single traffic light was spared. In such a situation, how do you expect motorists to be orderly? Just asking

I am in Lagos but no single traffic light was vandalized on my route. From Fatai Atere to CAPPA junction, Ikeja under bridge and Oba-Akran-Adaniyi Jones, all the lights are working fine. Of course there is heavy gridlock since the protests due to irresponsible driving as a result of absence of law enforcement agents

Shebi the IDH is not a military facility? Let the panel move there and examine the bodies without resistance instead of this back and forth.
Personally I don't believe the sahara reporters news. Firstly the pictures of bodies moved proves nothing. Secondly, the Nigerian army I know will not take bodies of those they extrajudicially killed in such circumstances to a public mogue if they want to cover up. Those bodies would have been buried since somewhere secret. Sahara reporters simply failed to convince with this piece of news on the subject matter

[quote author=Collinsemegreat post=95491677][/quote]That is their work, to tutor and lecture students. What else do you want them to do? If a lecturer owns as much as a retail store, he is castigated again for neglecting his poorly paid job. If you assume all of them with PhD, msc etc should leave their jobs for something else, who will them teach if everyone attains knowledge and leaves? Of course the best option is to make the system workable, convenient for both students and teachers. The key to this is in government's hand.

somehow:
This is a pure lie
Has the primary schools turn to rubbish now even though they don't even generate funds like the universities do?

ASUU fights for their pockets alone and this is glaring.

Why has Unilorin not turned to a primary school ever since they opted out of ASUU? Answer this first.

May you are the one lieing. You don't even know how deplorable the public primary schools are. Who send their kids to them in this age apart from the poorest in the society. The average well to do parents sent their kids to private nursery and primary schools.
The same Uni Ilorin is on strike for issues bordering on poor funding. ASUU members welfare is part of the poor funding issues. How much does a professor take home after more than 30 years in service? Is it up to a million? So even if they fight for their welfare, it is no crime. As you like comparing Nigeria with SA, Ghana, Egypt, Tunisia, etc compare the salaries of their lecturers, education funding before you come back.
By the way, uni ilorin is not the best in Nigeria compared to other federal universities, and the fact that it is not a primary school does not mean it is competing favourably with the best universities even in Africa.