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Zane2point4:
Thats my point exactly.
We can't have such plan over here unless the company wan fold up.

So i can confidently say,if you have an accident of the kind in american with a current car with full safety gadgets on,you'll be lucky to survive

Very correct, one person will use false identify and false everything to collect and disappear in thin air

Both parties will rig. Let nobody should come here to complain if their party lose on Saturday.

ebuka1997:
First of all I’m not arguing that Nigeria is more developed than India, no sane person would say that. I’m debating your statement that they’re way developed than Nigeria, if you had said China or Japan I’ll understand not India.

Check per capita income, the per capita income in Nigeria and India. According to The latest World bank reports Nigeria is ranked above India, check the picture I attached and don’t argue that it’s because India has a large population China also has a large population and is above Nigeria.

You scramble for visa to go there? That’s a stupid point, don’t Indians get visas to come here and work? Or there just fly here without visa.

Healthcare, fair enough they have a good standard of healthcare, not a high standard like you’re trumpeting, why people go there for medical tourism is because of the relatively cheap cost of private hospitals, they’re not among the top 20 countries with quality healthcare. Cuba has a world recognized healthcare system, does it mean they’re ‘way developed’ than Nigeria?

India has a youth employment rate of more than 23%, around the same as Nigeria

Over 90 percent of Indians in Nigeria are here working for Indian owned company. How many Nigerians are in India working for Nigerian owned companies in India? Our manufacturing sector is largely controlled by Indians. I gave you about six sectors of economy where we are no where close to them. You have to admit if you are sincere enough.
Now you are talking about per capital income and employment ratios. We do use population to always puncture this argument with UAE. Our population is not up to one quarter of India population. Let's assume we are about 250m people, India is estimated to be 1.3b people, if Nigeria was half as populated as India, imagine the kind of per capital income compare to the resources we will be talking about. We we just be sleeping in gutters.
Ironically, Nigeria was rated higher than India as having the more potential to attain the status of a developed nations faster than India, but look at where we are compare to them. There is no sector that we can boast about that can even compete with any of theirs.
At this level we are going, I feel we are no where near them and worse off, we are not even making efforts enough to close the gap. It is rather widening. It is fine to be optimistic, but this is the reality in my opinion.

ebuka1997:
Indian is miles ahead of Nigeria? Bros you need to chill and stop spewing trash you don’t know, it’s your type that would say Kenya is miles ahead of Nigeria. Was India not poverty capital of the World until some months ago.

Trash? Can you please compare Nigeria with India on any sector of the economy to educate me me? I would like to learn from you.
And what do you mean by world capital of poverty? Like I told someone before, poverty is everywhere including the most developed nations. Now let's come back to India vs Nigeria and what each country can contribute globally in key areas.
Educationally-Their standard is far above ours, we scramble for visa to go study there.
Health-care-They are among one of the best and most competitive health care giver in the world. What do we have here? We run there to get medical treatment.
Industrially-India is again miles ahead, we buy machines from them for our industries. They are the ones building the largest refinery in Africa for Dangote. Their pharmaceutical industry is top there with the best, supplying drugs to the US as well.
Agriculturally- Again they Trump us by far, we import ordinary rice from them.
Technologically- Again they are the best in IT globally. Remind me what we do here.
Militarily-India is a powerhouse as well, almost there with the super powers.
Again, this is not to bash Nigeria, but just what it is. I will be the happiest person in the world if my Country earns half of the respect India earns among the league of nations.
It is high time we started telling ourselves the truth so that we can make amends.
Please do not hesitate to convince me how Nigeria and India are on the same level. I will be glad to know. Regards.

Rosskii:
Shut up and stop talking rubbish.

India is NOT ''miles ahead of Nigeria in all indices''. You are a LIAR and a SLAVE to utter such garbage.

There is NOTHING we are suffering in Nigeria today that hundreds of millions of Indians are not suffering, from underdevelopment to corruption to bad roads to power cuts to poverty to rural poverty to illiteracy.

Millions of them curse their leaders for their condition just as you do in Nigeria.

These are people in the same India you people are making out to be El Dorado:

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SO GET RID OF YOUR LIES AND INFERIORITY COMPLEX THAT TELLS YOU IT IS FINE FOR INDIANS TO COME TO NIGERIA AND DISCRIMINATE AGAINST NIGERIANS.

DAMN IDIOTS.

If you going to have a nice conversation with me then you have got to be civil and not uncouth. Firstly, I am not in any way displaying inferiority complex here, rather saying the reality. You put up pictures of slums in india up there to justify your claims. Secondly, I did not say poverty is not in India, for your information, even in the USA there are poverty stricken areas, same in China and every where. But I insist India as a Nation is far ahead of Nigeria. What sector of in Nigeria are you comparing with India exactly?
Medically- They are among the topmost, hence we troop there for medical tourism. One of the best pharmaceutical hub globally.
Technologically- They are a world power, the brain child of IT globally.
Agriculturally- What exactly do we export to them, rather we import their rice and other agricultural products.
Militarily- They are a military world power to an extent.
Industrially- They are far more industrialize than us. We buy our machines for manufacturing from them.
Even entertainment wise, we consume their Bollywood here more than our own Nollywood.
So perhaps you can point out to me what exactly we are better than them with.
Look it is not a matter of sentiments, slave mentality, inferiority complex or what have you. It is simply a matter of fact that you cannot logically dispute, that India is far ahead of Nigeria in all economic and developmental indices.
I would appreciate a more robust and respectful reply than what you did up there. I believe you are capable of doing better than that.

RTSC:
India is not the definition of proper management.
That country is like a bigger version of Nigeria.
Corrupt, and poverty striken.

Individually, they are better skilled than Nigerians on average.
And that is why i said companies should train their staffs to high competence.

A highly trained Nigerian can perform as well as an indian.

We are talking about general attitude to work here, remember. Yes, India may not be a definition of proper management as you said, but they are still well ahead of Nigerians, management wise. This is why in private sector, they survive far longer than Nigerian manage enterprises. Again, India as a Country is miles ahead of Nigeria in all indices. An average Indian is more trusted generally than an average Nigerian on the same level of skills. This is sadly due to our battered image in all facets of criminality, be it drugs, corruption, internet fraud etc.

ebuka1997:
Majority of Indian men are rapist, does it mean Indian men wouldn’t be trusted because of that?

I do not know about that, I am talking about my country and the reality of what is on the ground. You cannot deny the fact that, Nigerians are suspects all over the world. Ask yourself why and then you will understand the basis of discussion.

RTSC:
You are not saying anything special.

Do you know how many Indian companies that have folded?
Plenty

The banks that are waxing from strength to strength are still managed by Nigerians.
Sanusi is a Nigerian also. He is not a foreigner

The common factor is that these Nigerians are highly skilled.
Highly skilled Nigerians, perform.

Indians are higly corrupt too. It is like a larger version of Nigeria.
The difference is skill.

Nigerian companies don't want to train their staff

As you are very confident of Nigerians managing things, how come the country with abundant resources including human is the way it is? Look there is a reason for that, poor management both in politics, government sectors, private organizations, NGO and what have you. As I said before, MOST Nigerians regardless of social and whatever status they they found themselves have higher tendencies of short changing each other. Again, there is a reason why we are where we are today. It is nothing aside pure mismanagement, no matter how you try to sugar coat it.
And again do you know how many medium and large scale industries are owned and manage by foreigners, mostly Indians in Nigeria? They are the majority. Even the few surviving Nigerian companies of worth are still driven by these foreigners.

RTSC:
This is nonsense.

The most competitive sector in Nigeria is the banking sector.
And it is managed by Nigerians. Highly skilled Nigerians.

Indians are highly skilled. They come to Nigeria with those skills.

Nigerian companies don't want to train their Nigerian staffs to that same level of skill and competence.

This is never nonsense. If you have not experienced it, don't say what you don't know. Even in the banking sector you mentioned, many banks managed by Nigerians are no more and mostly due to mismanagement. On many occasions banks employees have orchestrated fraud on customers accounts and involved in robberies as well. If not because of strong capitalization initiated by Sanusi, most of the banks would have gone by now. Note the word mostly in my assertions, meaning not all Nigerians are like that. But as always, the majority group will drive the narrative about a nation. And sadly, most Nigerians are crooks in one way or the other, hence the general public perception we are experiencing now

softset:
Many will not understand why until you hire an Indian to work for you .

The owner may have hired several Nigerians who may have taken advantage of him.

Indians will always do a thorough job... no complaints about work hrs etc, all they are concerned about is job delivery


Why do you think people like Dangote, Adenuga and co cannot do without them

This is the Koko of the matter. Put a Nigerian there and most likely all he thinks of is how to fraudulently line his pocket with your money without the technical capability to even deliver on the job. He may have tried them as you said, but as usual endless excuses and complaint with other things might have seriously discouraged him or her.

Jman06:
Strike is a legal tool but when lecturers abuse it by going on unnecessary prolonged strikes without considering the plight of students, then government has a duty to find a way of making them pay some unpleasant prices. Even if they'll eventually get paid, they should never be paid during the period of the strike and the payment should be delayed when they return to work. In fact, the money should be paid in a way that it'll not be useful to them.

Striking for a whooping six months while subjecting students to psychological trauma is a serious offence that deserves commensurate punishment!

No, ASUU is not the ones disregarding the plight of the students but government. Be sincere with yourself, are you happy with the standard of education in our public schools? Look at the state of infrastructures, non equipped laboratories etc. Check out the reason why ASUU is always on strike, it is mostly about adequate funding, university autonomy and so on. Like I said before, strike is never a first option with ASUU, they will usually negotiate everything on a round table with government, sign all agreements with a timeline of implementation. Then, the government will disregard everything, ASUU will protest by going on strike(at least the only language government tend to understand), and the cycle continues. For me the government has the blame here squarely, let the honor signed agreements and stop grandstanding.

Jman06:
Only lecturers who are not on strike deserves salaries! Those on strike should never be paid!

You may not be correct, strike is a legal too in labour laws anywhere, and as a matter of fact, legally recognize by ILO. Workers are free to go on strike when necessary during labour disputes and are not to be victimize in any way by the employer. But the concept of no work no pay is illegal. That is why it has never worked, all these monies owed to them will still be paid to the last kobo at last. So, why owe in the first place?
Again, note that ASUU case in particular is as a result of a series of agreements and MoUs which the government has violated severally after signing.
Before you misjudge ASUU again, such agreements are not all about their pockets(though they are poorly paid), but for the overall improvement of our almost worthless education system.

This non payment of salaries to lecturers is uncalled for. Politicians are never owed a fine despite their fat allowances

Beedude:
Even La Liga president doesn't want him to go.
Barca also couldn't afford to let him leave.

There is a reason for this.

Leaving La Liga will always be bad market for both Barca and La liga in a commercial sense.

Folks like u wont see that cos Ronaldo wasn't begged to stay in La Liga by Madrid or La liga .

Messi is the only GOAT at the moment and he deserves whatever PAY he get.

I think you are misunderstanding the whole saga. No body begged him to stay per se. Laliga and Barca simply said if he wants to leave, 700m euros will be made available by any club willing to take him, as against him going free. Actually, he was told he has a contract and must abide by it. That is not same as begging him. If Ronaldo just stood up that he wants to leave Real for free at that time, nobody would have allowed that. So remove the word beg.

Even internal party elections must be tampered with in this country. No elections in this Country go without rigging, from NMA, NBA to national elections. Look at PDP disgracing themselves, the so called number one opposition party. Pathetic lots

Hmm, James, popularly pronounced Hames that year. How the mighty have fallen

Kaduna1stson:
We don't have it yet, that's why we hadn't have a mistaken hit.

So when you hear nuclear power, the next thing that comes to your mind is nuclear bomb. What has nuclear energy got to do with nuclear bomb?

jaxxy:
The issue is the economy was better under Gej even with the stealing. It still beats logic how it continues to deteriorate under Buhari and his men. Then security has gotten worse.

Why wudnt any logical person want Gej? Looking back in hindsight.

The GEJ tenure made bastard money from crude oil high prices. More than twice when Buhari came in. There was much more money to loot and still maintain the economy.

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flyingpig:
Those suspended ones will cry weeeee

sheybi the other man gave them better SUVs plus money

oluDharay:
But Barca board doesn't even know how to spend on players, the money made on Neymar was wasted on Dembele+ Countiho + Antonie, yet no good result

Please don't say waste. When Barca bought those players, they were among the hottest and most in formed players in their clubs. That they did not replicate the form at Barca does not mean it was waste. They may still pick up next season

Sandra4luv:
That’s how those useless LastMa arrest me around adebola house in Obebi area last two week,they collected 5k from my hand because I didn’t put on my seatbelt,the Lagos state government need to fix the loopole in that lastma ,they are thief

Was it not your choice to give them 5k? You should have refused and simply allow them to arrest you and charge you according to the state traffic laws, but i guess you did not want to go that route, hence the easier one of settling. It is a sad situation but citizens should no exonerate themselves from the mess. 90% of the times, violators prefer to induce the officers and go rather than facing the law, a win win situation for the rouge officers and the rouge offenders.

Kaydans:
Are u in Nigeria bro?
Btw it is not only gun wounds because I have being a victim.
It happened I got injured in a bathroom (i slipped) i got stitched by my late sister's husband who was a surgeon. I went back to school after 2weeks it was due to remove the stitches, I called him he said I should go to any hospital that I will be attended to, Note: I couldn't walk properly cause I was in pains the stitches were really due.
I got to a General hospital in gwagwalada (abuja), lo and behold the demanded to see either of this a hospital report or a police report.
My late in law was really mad at whoever told me that.
I later left the hospital and went to a chemist shop.
My brother I was in pains and those doctors didn't give a Bleep.

My only prayer is this "May we never fall victims that requires an emergency treatment because Nigeria will really fail u at that moment".

You may be right, but in this case the guy you quoted is absolutely correct on the fake news part from the lady. The patient was brought in by LASEMA, RRS etc which are government agencies in a government hospital. How then could a police report be demanded for? I can't believe people will even buy into the fake story. Finally, she even confessed not being an eyewitness, pure hearsay which makes her more disgusting. People like this need to be seriously dealt with by applicable laws

PDPdestroyer:
The kind of comments I've read here on this topic is just appalling. There's a dearth of quality and informed users on nairaland, kids who know next to nothing are here in the majority.
Black boxes don't prevent a crash from happening, it only gives investigators a lead into what could have been responsible after a crash has occured.

Very mentally lazy people on nairaland. This is heartbreaking

SheikhMuniru:
You see the picture?

Yes, I meant it is not only in Nigeria. I wanted to believe the assertion without a doubt, so I did a quick Google search and discovered other countries where planes were pushed as well

SheikhMuniru:
Only In Nigeria You Will See People Pushing Plane

I don't think so

GOFRONT:
But na which flight dem carry fly Mamman daura to UK??

But is UK a member of EU?

Almost all the papers coming out with apologies to VP on one issue or another. This is pathetic journalism. To think that many unfortunate people were protesting and shouting press freedom when the VP was protesting his innocence is appalling

intruder15:
It's not about Anambra. How old are you? Did you follow politics during Obasanjo's tenure? That event was the height of Godfatherism. When I see OBJ opening his mouth to talk about good governance now, I shake my head because the memory of this and other atrocities are still fresh in one's mind.

I guess u are a minor. My apologies quoting you.

OBJ really committed despicable abominations during his tenure. Funny enough, he has the guts to be criticising others. No democratic president during this new dispensation is as half as dictatorial as OBJ. Is it randomly sacking Senate presidents or sending army to level innocent communities? The list is endless

NewDelhi:
Though they said he was killed.

I heard it too. Sahara reporters I think. I hate fake news

This is encouraging. Infrastructure wise, this government is trying. The biggest challenge now is that of insecurity

Wordson:
Omo... Dey don kee Barca

Bayern d cook am inside pot, e go done very soon