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Re: Achebe’s Biafra Memoir Stirs Controversy by bashr8: 5:26pm On Oct 06, 2012 |
aurenflani:and your problem is ignorance. |
Re: Achebe’s Biafra Memoir Stirs Controversy by gabbytabby: 5:31pm On Oct 06, 2012 |
Ngodigha: Babies asks questions and Men provide solutions which are you |
Re: Achebe’s Biafra Memoir Stirs Controversy by bashr8: 5:33pm On Oct 06, 2012 |
gabbytabby:answer the question and stop jumping around like a monkey. |
Re: Achebe’s Biafra Memoir Stirs Controversy by gabbytabby: 5:35pm On Oct 06, 2012 |
bashr8: answer the question and stop jumping around like a monkey. Forward thinking and making dough. Keep going back into your history books that is why some lecturers are still teaching FORTRAN slowpoke. |
Re: Achebe’s Biafra Memoir Stirs Controversy by Nobody: 5:38pm On Oct 06, 2012 |
Awolowo replied this nonsense of a thing called Achebe 's war memoir before his glorious and graceful exit to great beyond. On a lighter note, why didn't Zik advise Ojukwu or devise a winning strategy for Biafra? See how one man single handedly formulated policies that brought Biafra to her knees. War is not about brute force, it's about wisdom and brain. QUESTION: Chief Awolowo, your stand on the civil war…Your stand on the civil war, however unpopular it may have been to the Biafrans or Ibo people, helped to shorten the war. Today, you’re being cast as the sole enemy of the Ibo people because of that stand, by among others, some of the people who as members of the federal military government at that time, were party to that decision and are today, in some cases, inheritors of power in one Nigeria which that decision of yours helped to save. How do you feel being cast in this role, and what steps are you taking to endear yourself once again to that large chunk of Nigerians who feels embittered. 2 Likes |
Re: Achebe’s Biafra Memoir Stirs Controversy by ak47mann(m): 6:03pm On Oct 06, 2012 |
I will start by asking all these questions 1:don't u think that crossing d carpet spearheaded by awo was the remote cause of all nigeria?Problem started from when Awo make isthekiri lords over other tribes in n/delta,was the indigenous policy sincere. |
Re: Achebe’s Biafra Memoir Stirs Controversy by Nobody: 6:05pm On Oct 06, 2012 |
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Re: Achebe’s Biafra Memoir Stirs Controversy by cjrane: 6:08pm On Oct 06, 2012 |
ak47mann: I will start by asking all these questions 1:don't u think that crossing d carpet spearheaded by awo was the remote cause of all nigeria?Problem started from when Awo make isthekiri lords over other tribes in n/delta,was the indigenous policy sincere. For the first time, i see Nigerians on NL asking constructive questions to dissect the root of our problems. Those playing to the gallery and refusing to acknowledge the mistakes of past leaders just because they are their tribesmen, are just deluding themselves that other Nigerians don't know how we got to the present mess. |
Re: Achebe’s Biafra Memoir Stirs Controversy by datola: 6:09pm On Oct 06, 2012 |
Awolowo was the foremost economist Nigeria has produced. Just one or two poliicies changed everything about the war. Indeed he was "the best president Nigeria never had" according to Ojukwu. Igbos please forgive and forget if truely the man hurt you. Let God judge and fight for you if indeed you are the African jews. Why the hatred of the whole tribe when the likes of Wole Soyinka fought the FG because of the war. |
Re: Achebe’s Biafra Memoir Stirs Controversy by gabbytabby: 6:10pm On Oct 06, 2012 |
PStylish: I agree with you brother. |
Re: Achebe’s Biafra Memoir Stirs Controversy by plentykola(m): 6:11pm On Oct 06, 2012 |
[font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font]majority of the igbo pple did not realised that ojukwu and pple like Achebe led them to war cause of their own selfish interest i.e they wanted to rule over a country if ojikwu met well for is pple he wont leave them and run away like he did. I think pickin on Awo achebe is just trying to show is hatred for him Awo was not a military man and the Yorubas' are pple who use their sense no leader can just push us to war like ojukwu did and dey followed him majority of the igbo pple did not realised that ojukwu and pple like Achebe led them to war cause of their own selfish interest i.e they wanted to rule over a country if ojikwu met well for is pple he wont leave them and run away like he did. I think pickin on Awo achebe is just trying to show is hatred for him Awo was not a military man and the Yorubas' are pple who use their sense no leader can just push us to war like ojukwu did and dey followed him majority of the igbo pple did not realised that ojukwu and pple like Achebe led them to war cause of their own selfish interest i.e they wanted to rule over a country if ojikwu met well for is pple he wont leave them and run away like he did. I think pickin on Awo achebe is just trying to show is hatred for him Awo was not a military man and the Yorubas' are pple who use their sense no leader can just push us to war like ojukwu did and dey followed him |
Re: Achebe’s Biafra Memoir Stirs Controversy by ak47mann(m): 6:13pm On Oct 06, 2012 |
[quote author=Wily+Wily] I believed they did provide intellectual support but not drive by hate but honest, that is why Gowon came back from Aburi a confused man after signing agreement he could not implement. while Awolowo action was driven by hate that made him today the first indicted War Criminal that escaped justice. [/quote] say it again.... |
Re: Achebe’s Biafra Memoir Stirs Controversy by Nobody: 6:17pm On Oct 06, 2012 |
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Re: Achebe’s Biafra Memoir Stirs Controversy by ACM10: 6:26pm On Oct 06, 2012 |
I might not argue convincinly that the Indigenization/nationalization policy was a "deliberate conspiracy", but I can say that it is a "subtle opportunistic conspiracy". You might use "bad timing" to refer to the policy, but I choose "opportunism". Awolowo decided to kill two birds with one stone by enforcing the policy when his rival tribe was economically incapacitated. I can't say for sure that Awolowo had indigenisation policy in mind when he enacted the £20 policy. I will defend my use of "subtle opportunistic conspiracy" by starting with £20 policy. 1. The 20 pound policy was crafted in the context of the power struggles that wrecked our nation. These power struggles had, above all, an ETHNIC coloration, especially between the Hausa-Fulani, the Yoruba and the Igbo. That struggles were the reason, above all, why the Biafran war of brother against brother was fought in such an utterly barbaric and wicked way. When the war ended, the players did not change. They did not convert into saints overnight. Ethnic warlords merely pursued their Power agenda in different ways, using, for example, the 20 pound policy and the indigenization decree. 2. Biafra was NOT a Banana Republic. It may have lost the war, but it was not a lawless entity. It had a functional Government. It had functional institutions. It had an Economic and Monetary Framework. Above all, it had a Central Bank that issued and controlled legal tender. Before they announced the 20 pound policy, they DID ask people to deposit ALL the money -including Biafran Pounds, in banks, abi? This were now Nigerian Banks, not Biafran banks, remember? So they know how much money that was in circulation. Remember that they insisted on only exchanging the money in the banks deposited before the deadline. 3. Biafran currency was NOT printed inside Biafra. They were printed in Portugal and Switzerland. The same way that Nigeria prints Naira in France. Therefore there was no rogue money in circulation. Biafran money was a SCARCE commodity in Biafra! Sometimes, Biafran Banks were closed for days on end , because, they had no Biafran cash to dispense. When they did open, they often had to ration withdrawals. Everybody knew this. The Economists on the Federal side knew this 4. Awolowo's argument that Biafran money will overwhelm the Nigerian economy does not hold water. When the war ended, the Nigerian nation acquired another 16 million citizens -who were already using some form of money. Its like the EU absorbing Greece or Turkey. You do a straightforward currency exchange, however determined. Is it rocket science ?? This fake difficulty was invented by Awolowo and his gangs to justify £20 policy. 5. At the end of the war, people DID expect Nigeria to exchange the Biafran Pound with the Nigerian Pound. Now, most people thought that the Feds would use some ridiculous exchange -something like 20 Biafran Pounds to one Nigerian Pound. Greedy and opportunistic speculators expected the Government to be wicked, but even they, they prepared to make a kill, and in anticipation of an exchange, they purchased Biafran Pounds at the rate of £50 Biafran Pounds to £1 Nigerian Pound. Guess what? Awolowo and his Economists broke the ALL the record and expectations - even the one set by uber-greedy speculators!!! They delivered a fiat 20 pound policy to the priviledged few who had bank accounts!!! Even the speculators went broke! (to be continued) 1 Like |
Re: Achebe’s Biafra Memoir Stirs Controversy by ACM10: 6:27pm On Oct 06, 2012 |
Just like I remarked in my previous post, I'm unsure if Awolowo had indigenization policy in mind when £20 policy was enforced. Awo woke up after £20 policy to discover that the economic backbone of his rival tribe has been broken. He decided to make a kill by promulgating indigenization policy knowing fully well that it will mostly benefit his kinsmen cos he's well aware that his kinsmen has displaced their rival tribe from the apex of the economic pyramid in the country. He made the time so short so that the easterners will not recover to fully participate in the indigenisation policy. Remember that it's been 12yrs since independence, so why the mad rush to nationalize foreign companies? Why wont a provision be made for the people who are still recovering from the war to participate in the process? Can you see that the policy was "opportunistic"? Though Awolowo may/may not have the policy in mind when he set out to reduce Igbo millionaires to £20 owners, but at the end of the day, he achieved his aim of fatally weakening his rival tribe, then displacing them for good from the upper echelon of the economic pyramid. So he killed two birds with one stone. So his policy can be labelled "subtle opportunistic conspiracy". 2 Likes |
Re: Achebe’s Biafra Memoir Stirs Controversy by datola: 6:27pm On Oct 06, 2012 |
For Prof Achebe, things have not only fallen apart but they are no longer at ease after the civil war. The years before the civil was his best as it was the period the classic novel was written. Hatred might have robbed him of honors of Nobel prize, more classic novels. This has culminated in his recent Memoir of the civil war which is brewing more hatred among the people who are supposed to unite and fight the common enemy. This particular work is unclassic and should be condemned by all Igbos who are interested in the advancement of the most industrious tribe in Nigeria. |
Re: Achebe’s Biafra Memoir Stirs Controversy by jimmyboy1010(m): 6:29pm On Oct 06, 2012 |
Onlytruth:An adage says "It's only an empty barrel that make much noise"! This one will pass genocide!!! Lousy tribe...your tribe tribe talks before they think! Try it dis time and n'digbos will bury themselves tribe jagbajagba! |
Re: Achebe’s Biafra Memoir Stirs Controversy by ACM10: 6:30pm On Oct 06, 2012 |
Follow the debate on post-civil war indigenization policy masterminded by Awo on the thread below. www.nairaland.com/1027995/post-civil-war-indigenization-policy-far-reaching |
Re: Achebe’s Biafra Memoir Stirs Controversy by Nobody: 6:34pm On Oct 06, 2012 |
ak47mann: I will start by asking all these questions 1:don't u think that crossing d carpet spearheaded by awo was the remote cause of all nigeria?Problem started from when Awo make isthekiri lords over other tribes in n/delta,was the indigenous policy sincere. Did Zik's NCNC win the outright majority? Did Yorubas from Zik's NCNC cross carpet to AG? Who were the guys that joined AG? Is alliance now strange in politics? Didn't Zik form alliance with Northern party? Why didn't Zik stay in the West and be the opposition leader? Why did he go to the East and bulldoze his way to power there? Una neva jam! This is comment taken verbatim from a thread that has trashed this cross carpet lies being propagated by Igbo. Igbo would never admit they destroyed Nigeria. They went about fomenting trouble everywhere and when given the real father of trouble, they played victim. https://www.nairaland.com/975707/obafemi-awolowo-letter-prison-dated/6 The Western house had 80 seats in total and any party with a 41 majority would have formed the government. http://books.google.ca/books?id=Oi0aVR4YkmUC&pg=PA35&lpg=PA35&dq=1956+election+NCNC&source=bl&ots=xlo8I8O_iF&sig=jmQDabaMysM0SG7MMZI3yFZ49dg&hl=en&ei=004zTvWKL4OnsALHmdTtCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CB0Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=1956%20election%20NCNC&f=false |
Re: Achebe’s Biafra Memoir Stirs Controversy by Balkan(m): 6:34pm On Oct 06, 2012 |
ayox2003: Ojukwu who wanted to create his own country should be rich enough to feed them. Am very sure you are a Yoruba man pretend to be Igbo. But if otherwise, I will call you a fool. You can not be a true Ibo man for opening your dirty mouth to insult a hero like Ojukwu openly in this forum. Am very sure you don't know your root. Useleess fool. Have you ever seen any tribe coming on this forum to insault their people. Its people like you that's giving other tribes power to insult an Ibo man openly. A big fool like you. Its pple like you that will keep voting for other tribes in their community. That is why we don't have a formidable party in the SE and SS. The vote in this region is always distrubuted to other regions. Shame on you. Ojukwu fought with his family wealth to liberate you from this nation called Nigeria that a whiteman established and put you in slavery. Well, am very sure you are not Ibo. Awolowo was in prison and an Ibo man released him from prison in Calabar shortly before the war and he we came out from jail and started fighting the same people that released him from jail. For your information no yoruba will come here to insult his leader no matter what, fool. Please don't let me talk |
Re: Achebe’s Biafra Memoir Stirs Controversy by jimmyboy1010(m): 6:36pm On Oct 06, 2012 |
Chop five my brov!!!!!! This time around it will be more than genocide for the Ojuiku tribe... Na total wipe out! Mcheww Useless tribe dat is full of so-so mouth. Dog that will go missing will never ear d hunter's wistle! Prof Corruption: Awolowo replied this nonsense of a thing called Achebe 's war memoir before his glorious and graceful exit to great beyond. |
Re: Achebe’s Biafra Memoir Stirs Controversy by ACM10: 6:37pm On Oct 06, 2012 |
datola: For Prof Achebe, things have not only fallen apart but they are no longer at ease after the civil war. The years before the civil was his best as it was the period the classic novel was written. Hatred might have robbed him of honors of Nobel prize, more classic novels. This has culminated in his recent Memoir of the civil war which is brewing more hatred among the people who are supposed to unite and fight the common enemy. May leprosy amputate your already leprous fingers for daring to suggest that we should condemn one of our greats. Have you condemned Awo for for saying that "all is fair" in a war? |
Re: Achebe’s Biafra Memoir Stirs Controversy by Dede1(m): 6:39pm On Oct 06, 2012 |
Prof Corruption: Awolowo replied this nonsense of a thing called Achebe 's war memoir before his glorious and graceful exit to great beyond. With the rubbish you regarded as Awolow’s reply to nonsense, there is no doubt Awolowo was the shameless liar in the ongoing discussion. For example, according to the excerpts from an interview with Awolowo where he allegedly made the following remarks, “AWOLOWO: As far as I know, the Ibo masses are friendly to me, towards me. In fact, whenever I visit Iboland, either Anambra or Imo, and there’s no campaigning for elections on, the Ibo people receive me warmly and affectionately. But there are some elements in Iboland who believe that they can maintain their popularity only by denigrating me, and so they keep on telling lies against me. Ojukwu is one of them. I don’t want to mention the names of the others because they are still redeemable, but ….Ojukwu is irredeemable so I mention his name, and my attitude to these lies is one of indifference, I must confess to you.”, There has never been a time Ojukwu cast aspersions on the personality of Awolowa. I have read countless interviews conducted by Ojukwu and he, Ikemba, expressed unalloyed respect for Awolowo. In one such interview, Ikemba called Awolowo the president Nigeria never had. |
Re: Achebe’s Biafra Memoir Stirs Controversy by hbrednic: 6:44pm On Oct 06, 2012 |
Good one from prof Achebe, the truth hurts. |
Re: Achebe’s Biafra Memoir Stirs Controversy by jimmyboy1010(m): 6:46pm On Oct 06, 2012 |
God Bless Awolowo in his Grave!!! An adage says "Wisdom is profitable to rule" Chief Obafemi Awolowo uses his wisdom to finish his opponent! Baba Awo RIP! ACM10: Just like I remarked in my previous post, I'm unsure if Awolowo had indigenization policy in mind when £20 policy was enforced. Awo woke up after £20 policy to discover that the economic backbone of his rival tribe has been broken. He decided to make a kill by promulgating indigenization policy knowing fully well that it will mostly benefit his kinsmen cos he's well aware that his kinsmen has displaced their rival tribe from the apex of the economic pyramid in the country. He made the time so short so that the easterners will not recover to fully participate in the indigenisation policy. Remember that it's been 12yrs since independence, so why the mad rush to nationalize foreign companies? Why wont a provision be made for the people who are still recovering from the war to participate in the process? Can you see that the policy was "opportunistic"? Though Awolowo may/may not have the policy in mind when he set out to reduce Igbo millionaires to £20 owners, but at the end of the day, he achieved his aim of fatally weakening his rival tribe, then displacing them for good from the upper echelon of the economic pyramid. So he killed two birds with one stone. So his policy can be labelled "subtle opportunistic conspiracy". |
Re: Achebe’s Biafra Memoir Stirs Controversy by ACM10: 6:47pm On Oct 06, 2012 |
If Ndigbo are friendly to Awo, why do we continue to taunt his name? That man was a shameless liar. |
Re: Achebe’s Biafra Memoir Stirs Controversy by Nobody: 6:49pm On Oct 06, 2012 |
Dede1: You should be pitied! Who were the guys spreading the starvation nonsense of a thing that Awolowo hated Igbo with an unbelievable passion if not Ojukwu and his now senile Achebe? Did your eyes skip this Ojukwu had only recently told the same lie against me.Una neva jam! |
Re: Achebe’s Biafra Memoir Stirs Controversy by demmy(m): 6:54pm On Oct 06, 2012 |
"Ojukwu is irredeemable" The great sage have spoken. "But there are some elements in Iboland who believe that they can maintain their popularity only by denigrating me, and so they keep on telling lies against me. Ojukwu is one of them. I don’t want to mention the names of the others because they are still redeemable..." But unfortunately Achebe is also now irredeemable. Awolowo was right. The whole spurious allegation began around late 70s just as the second republic was nearing. While the war was still going Ojukwu never for once mentioned Awolowo. It was always "Gowon Hates you" "Gowon wants to destroy you" and other fear mongering like those. I am beginning to think that NPN is the culprit. NPN pardoned Ojukwu remember and he promptly joined them. Irredeemable lots. |
Re: Achebe’s Biafra Memoir Stirs Controversy by Nobody: 6:57pm On Oct 06, 2012 |
ACM10: Follow the debate on post-civil war indigenization policy masterminded by Awo on the thread below. Whether Awolowo did it deliberately or not-what's the fuss all about? When Ibo knew they dominated everything Pre-War, why did they embark on such a war? Did Awolowo push them to war or declare the war for them or under obligation to fight the war for them? That was the comment I made to your indigenisation nonsense you rant about. You won't blame your short sighted leaders but of course put the blame on someone who has no connection with your misery. |
Re: Achebe’s Biafra Memoir Stirs Controversy by datola: 7:02pm On Oct 06, 2012 |
ACM10: That is a fallacy- argumentum ab dominem. Do not turn yourself to Achepe(the one who curses). Pray instead, that God will be merciful to your only great and heal him. |
Re: Achebe’s Biafra Memoir Stirs Controversy by mrperfect(m): 7:04pm On Oct 06, 2012 |
peace should be promoted in the country by all means. Please people. |
Re: Achebe’s Biafra Memoir Stirs Controversy by Dede1(m): 7:06pm On Oct 06, 2012 |
Prof Corruption: If anybody deserves silly pity, you and Awolowo are the frontrunners. Awolowo, dead or alive, never denied owning up to the starvation policy during Britain-Nigeria\Biafra war. In one moronic interview Awolowo conducted, he said starvation policy was meant to end war sooner than it would have taken. He elaborated further by saying it does not make sense feeding your enemy to have strength to continuing fighting. Since the war ended, Yoruba peeps are either busy rewriting the story of the events or outright denying the actions they instigated during the process. The only Yoruba entities that stood up against the war on Biafra were Soyinka who was incarcerated for the duration of war, Ijebu Ode cocoa famers assoc\Agbakoya who were brutally subdued by Gowon and Lt Col Ayo Ariyo who resigned his commission in Nigerian armed forces instead of fighting against Biafrans. 1 Like |
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