saxywale: "Lagos — Lagos State House of Assembly (LSHA) has
adopted the use of Yoruba language in addition to
English in the conduct of legislative business on the
floor of the Assembly chamber as it also called on the
leadership of the House to urgently set in motion the
necessary machinery and other supportive equipment
for its implementation.

The resolution was adopted sequel to a letter written
by Dr. (Mrs.) Ohiri Anuche, an Associate Professor in
the University of Lagos urging the House to conduct
legislative business in Yoruba. This according to her,
would enhance participation of the grassroots in
governance."
...

http://allafrica.com/stories/200712171269.html

afam4eva:
It has absolutely nothing to do with trust else Tinubu and Fashola wouldn't appoint non-Lagosians into his cabinet. There's no law that's stopping anyone fro anywhere from contesting to be governor of Lagos, afterall a non-lagosian contested against Fashola in 2007.

afam4eva:
It has absolutely nothing to do with trust else Tinubu and Fashola wouldn't appoint non-Lagosians into his cabinet. There's no law that's stopping anyone fro anywhere from contesting to be governor of Lagos, afterall a non-lagosian contested against Fashola in 2007.

Shollypopz:
Then go back to your state! Did we ask you to come to our state to invest those unwanted 30 years?? Lagos shouldn't give a damn about your interest but the interest of Lagosians. Till Nigeria adopts the permanent residency move which y'all ignoramus verbally opposed, y'all do not stand a chance. Can you guys be saying this bullsh1t in the North where the Hausas are residing? They would have beheaded you greedy fools long time!! Na everything be business to una, una wan turn Lagos state governorship to Alaba market, Nonsense!!

Yorubas tolerate crap, walahi I wan create my own boko haram. Kill all Igbos in Lagos state. Na Sholly E. Popz talk am and I approve this message!

shymexx: I asked Gbawe these questions, however, he's yet to provide any cogent answers... I'll pose the same questions to the myopic clowns on this thread as well...

Quote 1:
My point is that if it's not possible for someone like Chief Negro_ntns who has his ancestry in Lagos but was born and raised in Kano to contest for the governorship position of Kano, why should other people who're not from Lagos be vying to rule the place

Also, have you ever seen a Scot born and raised in London claim English ancestry?? Heck, Tony Blair is an English man born and raised in Scotland, did that change his English ancestry?? Despite being born and raised in Scotland, and also as a former British PM - Tony Blair still has no say in what goes on in Scotland... He's a non-entity over there!! It's the same thing everywhere in the world and all the pseudo-modernists need to start accepting that human beings are naturally territorial and that's the way it's going to be till the end of time...


Quote 2:
That's wishful thinking in a tribalised society... There's nothing "indolent" about doing right thing within the context in which it's done.. It only becomes problematic when pseudo-modern thinkers continue to preach their idealist theories to the choir just to suit their own personal interests... If that's what is attainable across the board - why should Lagos be singled out by pseudo-modern thinkers for their idealist fantasies??

Ngwakwe: Am talking of serious contender who can secure ticket and run under the banner of AC.N as I don't foresee any other party winning Lagos in the foreseeable future

OAM4J:

Appointing one or few people/technocrats to satisfy an interest group by the Governor is not equal to to electing the Governor that appoints this cabinet. Talking about present day Lagos state, give me one name, just one non Yoruba name that is capable of wining Lagos in 2015. Like Gbawe stated, any non Yoruba desiring to govern Lagos must start getting involved and prove himself to the generality of Lagosians over a period of time that he truly love the state and he is working for the interest of the state.

afam4eva:
Residents vote for a governor and not indigenes. The indigenes of Lagos are not even up to 10% of the population. I'm even just being generous.

afam4eva:
Are we talking of a Non-Lagosian or Non-Yoruba cos you're confusing me here. Isn't this about indiegenous thingy? Non-Lagosians whether Yoruba or not are in the same box.

T9ksy:

But why the hell are you ibos fixated on Lagos? why not other northern cities where you also have a sizeable population with huge investments?

I can confidently tell you that the day "residents" of lagos state vote an ibo man in as governor, will see a revisit of the old "wild wild west".

Oh btw, i deliberately chose to ignore the statistical figure you conjure from thin air. You ibos are just fond of making up figures that suits your fancy.

generous indeed! Yorubas prolly make up 5% of Lagos population-time we give you ibos, the "northern treatment"!

shymexx: I asked Gbawe these questions, however, he's yet to provide any cogent answers... I'll pose the same questions to the myopic clowns on this thread as well...

Quote 1:
My point is that if it's not possible for someone like Chief Negro_ntns who has his ancestry in Lagos but was born and raised in Kano to contest for the governorship position of Kano, why should other people who're not from Lagos be vying to rule the place

shymexx:
[i]That's wishful thinking in a tribalised society... There's nothing "indolent" about doing right thing within the context in which it's done.. It only becomes problematic when pseudo-modern thinkers continue to preach their idealist theories to the choir just to suit their own personal interests... If that's what is attainable across the board - why should Lagos be singled out by pseudo-modern thinkers for their idealist fantasies??

afam4eva:
I'll advise you to come and spend one year in Nigeria because the way you talk like a google Nigerian. Nothing stops an Adebisi from contesting to be a governor in Kano or Anambra. Nothing stops an Uche from contesting to represent Lagos or Zamfara in the senate and nothiong stops an Abubakar from contesting for any elective position in Lagos. It';s only in people's minds that they're restricted.

I'll also like to point out that your constant use of Scotland and England is not valid. These are countries for crying out loud and not states. Even at that, a Tony Blair could still choose to contest in Scotland and nothing will happen. He just chose to go to England instead. Correct me if i'm wrong.

At the end of the day, it's left for the Lagos electorate to accept or reject whoever they so pls. And pls Lagos electorate is different from Lagos indigenes.

OAM4J:

refer to the thread title.

shymexx:

That's still the same country - and Nigeria was a little bit like that during the first republic... I cited that because the ethnic make-up of the country is similar to Nigeria's - and they're both tribalised societies... Nothing stops an Adebisi from contesting on paper, however, how feasible is it??

Lagos indigenes hold the "ace" in the state and they'll to do so till the end of time... If foreigners don't like it, they might as well package their poverty ridden bags and head back to their home states!

Eze Promoe:
My brother, you see, talk is cheap, action speaks louder than voice. Lagos does not belong to the Yorubas, it belongs to Nigerians. If you're fed up by the Igbos you see in Lagos, what stops you from acting ASAP?

J12:
Who said it isn't possible for him to vie for the governorship position in his state? He can contest, but he cant be sure of winning. It'll even be harder for him to win the lagos gubernatorial than it'll be to win that of kano state. Tinubu's ancestry isn't in lagos, even fashola too, but they are past democratically elected governors of lagos state.

Thats the crux of the matter here- tribalism.

afam4eva:
England and Scotland are not the same country. At least let's agree on that.

We're talking of Nigeria of today and not of the first republic.

What ace do Lagos indigenes hold apart from voting like everyone else. It's only on nairaland that i heard that someone can vote but not be voted for. lol.

afam4eva:
I said indigenes and not Yoruba people. You're just being mischievous.

Btw, people who live in Lagos will be fixated on Lagos while people who live in Kano will be fixated on Kano. Most people you hear talking about non-indigene governor of Lagos, live in Lagos.

afam4eva:
Even the title is faulty. People just thinks any Yoruba person can just contest for any position in Lagos just because he's Yoruba. It doesn't work like that in Nigeria. It's as difficult for non-Lagos Yorubas as it is for Igbos, Hausa, Ijaws etc. The only thing they can do is to claim to be a Lagos indigene like some people have done in the past.

shymexx:

They're same COUNTRY(United Kingdom and Britain) - where the hell did we agree on anything?? I was alluding to the system of government, not the peaople and the ethnic groups... And Nigeria of today is still highly tribalised and territorial...

If the indigenes don't hold the ace, how come there are no non-yorubas representing the state at the senate and house??

OAM4J:

Err.

It is a lot easier for Aregbesola to win election in Lagos than it will be for Chime or Akpabio in present day Lagos. Denial of this reality is delusional.

afam4eva:
No, they're not the same country. The only thing that Britain or the UK controls is defence and external affairs. Why do you always use England and Scotland as examples. Why not use a country that's very similar to Nigeria in both ethnic and political structure.

Like i said, in a democratic setting, power belongs to the people(electorate) who can vote and be voted for. As long as you can vote, you have the ace. Fashola won the governorship election not because of the indigenes but because of majority of Lagosians. They vote people that will perform.

J12: I still maintain the a military government is the only kind of government thats suitable for unifying nigeria.

“Since 1914 the British Government has been trying to make Nigeria into one country, But the Nigeria people themselves are historically different in their background, in their religious beliefs and customs and do not show themselves any sign of willingness to unite.. . . Nigerian unity is only ct British intention for the country”'

“Many (Nigerians) deceive themselves by thinking that Nigeria is one, , . . .particuIarly some of the press people,. . This is wrong. I am sorry to say that this presence of unity is artificial and it ends outside this Chamber.. . The Southern tribes who are now pouring into the North in ever increasing numbers and are more or less domiciled here do not mix with the Northern peopIe,. . and we in the North look upon them as invaders.

shymexx:

It's only possible on paper, we all know that it's not possible unless all the Yoruba people want to be sent back to the SW in body bags... Tinubu and Fashola's ancestries might not be in Lagos, however, they got a pass because of their Yoruba heritage and their fraternisation... Non-yorubas will never get the same pass..

shymexx: It has nothing to do with tribalism and more to do with greed... Why leave your own house to lord over the next man in his house?? These people are not refugees, or immigrants with nowhere to go back to - their home states are there in the same country... Why not go over there and contest?? This shows that Nigerians are naturally greedy - they always want to eat their cake and have it!

afam4eva:
yes, it might be easier but that does not change the fact that he's in the same quagmire that ever non-indigene is in. Why did he go to Osun to contest despite the fact that he had a good raport with Tinubu after serving as a commisioner in Lagos state. To an outsider who might just see a certain "femi" and conclude that he's a Lagosian because he's Yoruba, to the Lagos indiegene, it's not the same. Aregbesola's lineage can be traced to Osun and unfortunately for him, he can't deny it unlike some people that have ruled Lagos in the past.

T9ksy:


You cannot unify people by force. Below is a quote from AIhaji Abubakar Tafawa Balwa in 1948, who was then parliamentary leader of the Northern Peoples' Congress (NPC):






And below is another quote by the same fella during the budget session of the same year:

OAM4J:

You are digressing. The OP talked about a Non Yoruba Governor for Lagos in 2015, Gbawe said it might be feasible in the future I agreed with him and equally said a non Yoruba willing to govern Lagos for the good of it will need to earn the trust of the people over time. You said some were trusted enough to be appointed as part of the cabinet I said appointed as a commissioner is different from being elected as the governor, then you went on about it being same for Non Lagosian-Yoruba and Non Yoruba and I gave you an example of Aregbesola vs Chime/Akpabio wanting to govern Lagos.

What exactly is your point/argument from my 1st post?

J12:
During the 2007 elections, a lebanese who was born and bred in maidugri contested for a senatorial seat in the state. No one complained. Its a very realistic ambition for negro to contest for the office of the governor in kano state, so far he's a muslim, speaks fluent hausa and was born and bred in kano state.

It has everything to do with tribalism. Nothing else, non lagosians(and non yorubas too) contributed immensely to the development of lagos state. They have every right vie for political positions if they are interested.

afam4eva:
My point is that it will happen when it will happen. There's nothing stopping it. Maybe Non-indigenes are not just interested in the whole Lagos politics as been painted. If a Yoruba woman can become a senator on the North then all this ones na just story. Trust or whatever has absolutely nothing to do with it.

OAM4J:

So people will willingly vote for someone they don't trust, especially one they consider as an outsider?

Its ok, you are entitled to your opinion.