Joshthefirst: When did christians consider rape good?

When has the bible agreed with rape?

texanomaly:
What is that face for?

I said I'm good, and I miss you...what did I do?

Kay 17:

I enjoyed Wiegraf's explanation and there is no better example, than to draw some examples/quiz from the bible.

Josh and texa both believe rap.e is an absolute evil, yet if God orders molestation, as in Judges 21 verses 12 and 19 - 23.

Smae with Numbers 31, 17 - 18. Note that pious men obey regardless of what is demanded from them same as Abraham.

My point is simply, an action can have two sides which is contrary to the universal morality.

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Timmytimmy: Pls......we all learn,tell me how I'm nt making sense @Troll.....and I'll put myself in order,tanx

Mr Troll: do you honestly think you are making sense?

texanomaly: @ Josh
Thanks for looking up that scripture reference. I hadn't gotten there yet.
I too was uneasy with the molestation
accusation.

Logicboy03: Joshthefirst is already a slow person....no need to waste my time on him.

This abortion debate pains me because christians talk about real life based on a book rather than basing it on the outcomes in reality.

Texanomaly, while you are being praised bEcause of ur liberal views on abortion, youi are only halfway there.

Abortion is a womans right. Just because u dont want to do something, it doesnt gove u the right to force others not to do it.

The simple argument for abortion is that it is better for a woman to abort a foetus which is only a potential human, than for the woman to live with a child that she will put in hardship and probably kill due to her inability to raise the child.


Jst look at africa.....women having children that later die of starvation.

Texanomaly belives that its better for the children to wonder abouit starving to death rather than a mother aborting a 3 week feotus.

There is a woman who killed her child in the usa so that she could party. She got away woth the crime because of the difficulty of lack of proper evidence. She never wanted to have the baby but after being forced not to have an abortion, she killed the infant.


Btw, only a tool would compare abortion to the nazi holocaust

i-smoke-weed:
^^^ see what this f00l is quoting? Who gave you bible self? I can't believe you actually paid for one. Holding onto something meaningless to you only emphasizes your stewpidity

I dont know what you are trying so hard to prove. You talk as if you were born into a family of atheists which if true means you are worse off than I expected. Why must you keep practicing hypocricy by keeping a bible with you as you say the book is useless to you.

You are an abnormal person hiding behind the cover of an online forum to proclaim that you are an atheist, if you are truly happy and satisfied being one why not go on NTA and broadcast

Olori buruku! Make I hear say dem no flog JESUS back into your life

Its a fact that you have multiple accounts on this forum, all the so called unbelievers that have been posting on this thread is the same person

If others do not know . . . I KNOW

Atheists are all potential ritualists and black magic users. Ungrateful people that don't know anything but claim to know everything aka F00LS

I have no sympathy for your manner of humans, Its because you haven't been at the point of death before or seen a fellow human die before your very eyes that makes you have no fear of what lies beyond.

But very soon . . .

ezme:

Post like this reaffirms my stance that religion is for the fickle-minded individuals.

Joshthefirst: smh. Double smh.
you read scripture with a biased mind, with the aim of discrediting God. Here're the passages:

Judges 21:12 Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found 400 young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh in the land of Canaan.
...19 Then they thought of the annual festival of the LORD held in Shiloh, south of Lebonah and north of Bethel, along the east side of the road that goes from Bethel to Shechem. 20 They told the men of Benjamin who still needed wives, “Go and hide in the vineyards. 21 When you see the young women of Shiloh come out for their dances, rush out from the vineyards, and each of you can take one of them home to the land of Benjamin to be your wife!

22 And when their fathers and brothers come to us in protest, we will tell them, ‘Please be sympathetic. Let them have your daughters, for we didn’t find wives for all of them when we destroyed Jabesh-gilead. And you are not guilty of breaking the vow since you did not actually give your daughters to them in marriage.’”

23 So the men of Benjamin did as they were told. Each man caught one of the women as she danced in the celebration and carried her off to be his wife. They returned to their own land, and they rebuilt their towns and lived in them.

Please where in the above scripture did God sanction rape?. God did not tell them to do this. This is scripture:
6 In those days Israel had no king; all the people did whatever seemed right in their own eyes.


Numbers 23:18 Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.

How did God order rape?
God never ordered rape and he never will.

Logicboy03: Joshthefirst is already a slow person....no need to waste my time on him.

This abortion debate pains me because christians talk about real life based on a book rather than basing it on the outcomes in reality.

Texanomaly, while you are being praised bEcause of ur liberal views on abortion, youi are only halfway there.

Abortion is a womans right. Just because u dont want to do something, it doesnt gove u the right to force others not to do it.

The simple argument for abortion is that it is better for a woman to abort a foetus which is only a potential human, than for the woman to live with a child that she will put in hardship and probably kill due to her inability to raise the child.


Jst look at africa.....women having children that later die of starvation.

Texanomaly belives that its better for the children to wonder abouit starving to death rather than a mother aborting a 3 week feotus.

There is a woman who killed her child in the usa so that she could party. She got away woth the crime because of the difficulty of lack of proper evidence. She never wanted to have the baby but after being forced not to have an abortion, she killed the infant.


Btw, only a tool would compare abortion to the nazi holocaust

Logicboy03:


What about lot who gave his daugjters to Hot strangers? LOt was regarded as a holy man by God

Kay 17:

If you had read from the beginning of Joshua 21, you wld have discovered that the Israelites consulted with God (by throwing lots), prior to taking their further actions.

The 400 virgins from Jabesh gilead, were captives and are to be married obviously forcefully.

In the Midianite raid, Numbers 23, Moses speaking on behalf of God as he had always done, ordered the Israelites to raid and destroy the Midianites, kill off the population and preserve virgins girls amongst them. And KEEP the virgins for themselves. Ie virgins are items of use.

At least murder in your eyes is an absolute evil.

aManFromMars: Zechariah 14:1-2 ESV
Behold, a day is coming for the Lord, when the spoil taken from you will be divided in your midst. For I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem to battle, and the city shall be taken and the houses plundered and the women raped. Half of the city shall go out into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

Deuteronomy 20:10-14
“When you draw near to a city to fight against it, offer terms of peace to it. And if it responds to you peaceably and it opens to you, then all the people who are found in it shall do forced labor for you and shall serve you. But if it makes no peace with you, but makes war against you, then you shall besiege it. And when the Lord your God gives it into your hand, you shall put all its males to the sword, but the women and the little ones, the livestock, and everything else in the city, all its spoil, you shall take as plunder for yourselves. And you shall enjoy the spoil of your enemies, which the Lord your God has given you.

Joshthefirst: yours as usual is another case of quoting the bible out of context. I don't think you've ever read the bible, you just went through it to pick out verses to support your worldview. That's idolatry you know, trying to create a false image of God that's fits your choice of denying, rejecting and mocking him comfortably.
Welldone. We will all see the real image of God in judgement.

Joshthefirst: yours as usual is another case of quoting the bible out of context. I don't think you've ever read the bible, you just went through it to pick out verses to support your worldview. That's idolatry you know, trying to create a false image of God that's fits your choice of denying, rejecting and mocking him comfortably.
Welldone. We will all see the real image of God in judgement.

Joshthefirst: When did christians consider rape good?

When has the bible agreed with rape?

aManFromMars: I guess even if I show you in your Bible, you'll find a way it to explain it away.

Joshthefirst: you don't know how much this pains my heart, not because you mocked me, but because you support giving a woman the freedom to murder her child. You support giving a child the chance to live.
So if a woman cannot care for the baby, she can't find someone else who can? She should just kill?do you value human life?
See the pitiful example you gave.

aManFromMars:

Show how I quoted it out of context, you ignorant liar. Motherfucking slave.

Joshthefirst: now you resort to insults.

The first part you quoted, zachariah, was a prophecy of what would happen. God was simply giving record of the future. How does that sanction rape?

The second part is similar to the issue in numbers. Women were kept as spoils of war. Would you rather they killed them? Where is rape mentioned in that scripture.

Logicboy03:



And if the woman is poor with no relatives to take care of the baby? What if she lives in a place with poorly run orphanages?

Adoption and orphamages are other options but they arent avalable always.

Joshthefirst:
Why should killing the child be the first resort or even be considered?

aManFromMars: \

And btw, you're proof that only fools believe in God, not the other way round.

Enjoy your butthurt. The verses I posted speak for themselves.





For once, you ignore the text and cast aspersions on my character. Goot, goot, we're getting somewhere.