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Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by mack111(m): 7:03am On Sep 12, 2014 |
tonychristopher:U re just typing for d sake of it. Which firm is interested in competency nd not certificate? Is it not ur certificate/qualification that will make these firms give u a chance to show ur competency. U need to be qualified for a job (certificate) before u'll be given a chance to prove yourself (competency), they go hand-in-hard. 1 Like |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by mack111(m): 7:14am On Sep 12, 2014 |
donroxy: You people are full of Bullcraps and I distate such hugely !!u have spoken my mind bros. d way they emphasise on entrepreneurship is baffling, they make it seem like its a piece of cake. Entrepreneurial skill is a talent (in as much as one can also learn it in d class room) they re blessed by nature with a natural acumen to continually innovate their businesses. People do business nd fail but they make it seem like everyone who eventually ventures into business will automatically bcome successful. 1 Like |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by cocoduck: 7:21am On Sep 12, 2014 |
mack111: i'm sure that amount is not constant. Maybe some month u'll get 50k or less, that's business for u. Come to think of it, do u sew for celebrities? Don't u pay for d space u re using, that u still make 150k monthly. I believe u earn sth that keeps u going like footing ur necessary bills, but certain not up to that amount. 150k for fashion designing as if u re a celebrity designer.That is exactly what you people have been programmed to think. Self employment is about diligence and skills, if he is very dilligent and skilled that is to say delivering the finished products on time, and making almost no mistake and not engaging in mago mago to cheat his clients they will keep on recommending their friends, family and acquaintances to him, very soon he will even become overwhelmed with the number of projects on his lap. I know certain tailors that only make clothes for rich people and they are always always busy, why do you think that tailors are among the best liars? they do not have time. My tutor of automotive electricals and electronics repair and maintenance does not touch small cars. he only repairs and maintain luxury cars. he did not attend any university, but if you see the way these rich men and women treat him, one even went on her knees begging him to fix her car because the line was very long. So forget that thing you are saying. it is the wrong perception. That is what you think. |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by ola9ja(m): 7:22am On Sep 12, 2014 |
Goodmorning, its pretty good to be serious and hardworking in school, but know this also, A 1st class and a 2.1 person are always relax because they already had good grade, they believe they will get a job, but a person with a 2.2 and third class know that they rarely get advert to be employed, so they improvise and become better most of which becomes an employer of labour, lastly a person with a pass knows that he his unemployable, so they strive to employ others, in words of a person that had a pass ''school may have given me a pass but life will never do thesame to me'' Learn from this! Dropouts in america do better than people with 1st class, dont rely on employment alone, work hard to be an employer of labour, thank you. |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by kaboninc(m): 7:24am On Sep 12, 2014 |
IRRESPONSIBLE: Do you owe yourself a duty? |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by cocoduck: 7:31am On Sep 12, 2014 |
mack111: u have spoken my mind bros. d way they emphasise on entrepreneurship is baffling, they make it seem like its a piece of cake. Entrepreneurial skill is a talent (in as much as one can also learn it in d class room) they re blessed by nature with a natural acumen to continually innovate their businesses. People do business nd fail but they make it seem like everyone who eventually ventures into business will automatically bcome successful.What you don't know is greater than you are. entrepreneurship is never a talent. Is the ability to walk a talent? it is inbornin every human on earth. Even lunatics have it in them, the only thing that is not common is common sense. Google hi tv and compare him to innoson and you will understand what I mean. eschew this slave mentality for God's sake. The Indians and south Africans troop to Nigeria daily to milk us dry all you people do is jump from office to office and disturb the peace. So apply common sense and humility when starting a business, okay. |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by Nobody: 7:52am On Sep 12, 2014 |
I have been recently admitted into UNILORIN to study Sociology....By God's grace and Hardwork I would love to graduate with at least 2.1 but I heard there are sadist lecturers in the department....considering the aforementioned, I think the lecturer factor should be a prerequisite for a successful GP.. |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by Rhemmymatician(m): 7:53am On Sep 12, 2014 |
ObiChiz08: My 1st year, i'd CGPA of 2.55 which is relatively low. 2nd year, my CPGA was 4.02. Can i graduate wt a strong second class upper if i put in more effort? Thanks!Well if you a very intelligent person you won't need to come online to ask this question when you can do the simple maths yourself 3 Likes |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by Olutola88(m): 7:55am On Sep 12, 2014 |
bestjob: What the op(olutola88) said is the rule. You can follow the rule or create an exemption. The choice is yours. However, the best you can be is to be in the middle class. My people dont forget there are things that sell more ... singing, football, acting, 'comedying' buying and selling ... Discover your KPI and flow into it.I love dat bro. Please try everytn in ur capacity to mke ur company d best. You'll never regret it |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by Olutola88(m): 8:06am On Sep 12, 2014 |
Exclusive900: I have been recently admitted into UNILORIN to study Sociology....By God's grace and Hardwork I would love to graduate with at least 2.1 but I heard there are sadist lecturers in the department....considering the aforementioned, I think the lecturer factor should be a prerequisite for a successful GP..Don't Let anyone discourage you o! That's how they always do. They've misled a lot of us in the past. I know people that finished with 2.1 from Sociology( Unilorin ). So, go for Gold! You can even make a 1st class. Did you read the piece of advice I gave to fresh intakes like you? 1 Like |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by tonychristopher: 8:13am On Sep 12, 2014 |
IRRESPONSIBLE: Do You Know Why Igbos Are Special Breed...They Don't Have This High Dependency On Government And If You See An Igbo Man Working In OrganizationBehind The Back Of His Mind Is To Pave Way For Others..He Will Always Think Of Floating His Own Stop This Government This Or That...Did These Private Firms You Apply To On Daily Basis Wait On Government Before Establishing Stop Thinking petty |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by tonychristopher: 8:19am On Sep 12, 2014 |
cocoduck: That Is The Problem I Have With These Puerile People They Are Averse To Risk And They Will Want To Be An Employee.What Is Called A Wage Slave Is Somebody That Earn Salary Yes You Can Start Working For People Then GRt Experience Then Float Your Own. I Am Scared Of Carrying CV At 40 ...The Best Job Security Is Self Employment Do A SWOT Analysis Of Yourself And Know What You Want To Do |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by Mcslize: 8:27am On Sep 12, 2014 |
[s] willibounce1: Mumu people talking 2.1 & 1st class rubbi...sh. with all the 2.1 and 1st class graduates we have in this country, we can hardly do anything on our own without the help of white men. The KPMG this small boy keeps shouting here is a foreign audit firm.[/s] Easy bro |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by Mcslize: 8:32am On Sep 12, 2014 |
[s] DeeChukwu: Op you funny. So if space is meant for only 20 people or lets say 20 1st class n 21ns and about 1000 1st class and 21ns also wants to occupy that same position and you think is a success then you should have a rethink.[/s] Though it opens door for the lucky 1st class n 21ns but looking at at situation in Nigeria from all angle today I think you rather encourage people to be selp employed rather than jubilation over a false reality. |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by Mcslize: 8:36am On Sep 12, 2014 |
muzeze77: Thats true article, I don't believe in Man know man, that you have to have a connection to get a job, i finished from a federal University with a 2:1 actually i was lucky my GPA was 3.51 on the dot, despite that their was no party that i did not attend during my time in school but during my NYSC i got two job offers and i actually started working for an International firm during my NYSC (I just had to settle my NYSC folks to avoid coming in on Friday to do that NYSC stuff). then i got admission for school in the US and I have been here for over 13 years and i have worked for firms such as IBM, Dell all with my Nigerian 2:1 Degree exactly. People believe man must know man before man must wack in this Nigeria. We shre the same ideas. |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by ThoniaSlim(f): 8:51am On Sep 12, 2014 |
kaka22: @op... Well done, you are on point. To make at least 2.1 is not everything, it is the only thing. The issue of connection is over-exaggerated in Nigeria. Yes, we have issues like nepotism,favouritism and connections(who you know) but that doesn't mean that there are no companies that recruit based on merit. MOST people who come out to say that 'what you have in school will not determine where and who you will be in future' are the unfortunate and the unlucky. What you have in school will surely determine who and where you will be in future. If you later establish your company/business you can be rest assured that you still have your 2.1 or first class pali(certificate) to search for work when the need arises.Yes, we have some 2.2 and third class fellows that are making it but that doesn't mean that 2.1 fellows are also not making it. I make bold to say that the percentage of 2.2 and third class jobless fellows is more than that of 2.1 and first class. Even if you won't use your 2.1 to work, still make sure you have it because you never know... GOD BLESS YOU!!! I cannot stand when people come out to say oh your grade doesn't determine your success! Yes it doesn't but trust me it gives you an advantage over others! I got a job a month before I finished service, I get invited to interviews like crazy, that I have to start turning some down! I'm planing on doing my masters next year and the schools I'm interested in, said I''m qualified for a scholarship because of my grades! So for undergraduates who have the opportunity to get it right, do not allow anyone tell you good grades do not matter because they do! So work hard! Get those good grades and do not stop trying to improve yourself! 2 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by kumpharm(f): 8:57am On Sep 12, 2014 |
Olutola88: I'm really exhilarated for this young man. He is very lucky and privileged to get this information at this critical time of his career. He is just about to get into the University. i love this ...thanks for the advice 3 Likes |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by Appswheel(m): 9:02am On Sep 12, 2014 |
What type of grade do you want to graduate with? 1st class honours? 2nd class (upper division)? 2nd class (lower division)? 3rd class? Pass? If you have 1st class or 2nd class (upper division) in mind, know that you cannot settle for scores below 60. A credit in all your courses will only land you in 2nd class lower division. Go for A’s and B’s; avoid the C’s as much as you can, make on room for D’s on your report sheets, Erase E’s and place a ban on F’s. There is a Yoruba adage that says, “A child who is good at asking questions will never lose his way”. Asking important questions is paramount to success. Ensure to interact with others who have passed through the level you are on the important things you ought to know. Having the lecture time table for the semester is also essential. This is used in mapping out how to engage your free periods and to accustom yourself to the lecture venues and time. AFTER GOAL SETTING AND PLANNING – WHAT NEXT? ACTION AND EVALUATION. After goal setting and planning, the necessary line of action spelt out in the plan must be executed. Also, it is important to review (evaluate) our goals regularly. This helps us to measure our progress. To see how many goals we have been able to achieve. To know what lapses there are with the aim of effecting change where it is required. It also helps us to consolidate on our strengths. When a soup is being prepared, the cook tastes the soup to see it if tastes just right. Evaluation should be an ongoing process. “Too often, people think that evaluation should come only at the need of something. But, an evaluation at the end only helps one to plan for the future it comes too late to help you change if it’s done at the last hour” (Navamaga). Therefore, self-evaluation needs to be carried out as regularly as possible. I INVITE YOU TO READ MORE ON , I BET YOU, YOU'LL BE FIRED UP AND YOUR GRADES WILL BE BETTER |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by emrycan23: 9:21am On Sep 12, 2014 |
my name ix professor labanba,futa student,my first class na sure tin 100%,i ve d technic to get job if am in ur position,if i tell u d technic u will hate me,(1) most of u shud recall when u were in skul,the technic ix to go to d world and preach the word to d people,b4 dat fast and pray 4 30days,after dat visit a pastor,dat ix all my frnd,sorry 4 my saying,wich u all d best in life |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by Okijajuju1(m): 9:21am On Sep 12, 2014 |
ThoniaSlim: [b]Good Grades are always always always important.. Especially when properly earned.. However: Grades dont always translate into brains and poor grades dont always mean the holder is academically deficient. I know a candidate who met one of the partners of one of Nigerias largest (in terms of business) Law Firms and she had a third class degree from a U.K University. Now because the Man had promised to look into her matter, he said; 'I simply asked she be tested by our H.R department so she could fail and get off my back'.. Long story short, she aced the test and obtained the second highest mark in the history of the firm. The Man said he was shocked and the other senior partners were also shocked as her degree didnt match her performance on the test so they all had to sit in on her interview just incase she somehow had obtained the questions to the test.. She not only aced the interview but was recruited and placed on the firms most difficult case at that time; Brass LNG Project.. Needless to say, having that Firm listed on her C.V and the jobs she worked on made that grade very inconsequential as she has gone on now to work for one of the Nations biggest IOC's and now sits in on meetings with the firm that first recruited her in the capacity of counsel for their client or counsel for the other party.. I have sat in on many tests and seen even 1st class degree holders struggle.. Another thing is; Quality of Education also matters, a 1st class degree from a 'D-Grade' university is as good as a 2.2 degree from an 'A-Grade' University.. Like I said earlier: The one major advantage of a good degree grade is to get you into the door.. Meaning to get you invited for many many many tests.. This is because many companies would not even give a 3rd class degree holder or a second class lower degree holder a chance to even write the test.. But I can bet my bottom dollar that if the doors are open to all classes of degree holders to compete on an employment test; The results will most certainly be shocking.. So please everyone should ALWAYS STRIVE TO MAKE GOOD GRADES or be ready to face a very very difficult path to securing a job upon graduation.. [/b] 8 Likes |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by Ishilove: 9:42am On Sep 12, 2014 |
Okijajuju1:Hmmm...Okija, I dey suspect you... E be like sey na 3rd class you get for school... |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by Nobody: 9:43am On Sep 12, 2014 |
one thing you should be thankful for is that you have someone to send you through school, someone who ministered into your needs that was why you were able to concentrate & earn a good grade, the same can't be said of someone who financed himself, who has to take some time off to hustle and come back preparing for exam I wouldn't blame that kind of person if he or she made a 2.2 ,I had a friend back in university who made a 3.10 despite leaving school for some large part of the semester, he will come back a month before exam to compile all the notes and handouts we've been given, imagine if that kind of person had a sponsor and stay back at school like others did, he would have made a good grade. |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by kaka22(m): 10:15am On Sep 12, 2014 |
ThoniaSlim:Amen... I've discovered that MOST people that go around talking about how what one made in school won't affect one's future are those that didn't make 1st class or 2.1. They always try to pass their defeatist mentality to those that made good grades so that they can be at the same level. It is not everyone that will be entrepreneurs and it is not everyone that will be employees but those that made good grades through God's grace and their efforts(not through bribing lecturers) have upper hand in seeking employment and getting scholarships to further their studies. I wish you best of God in getting that scholarship. |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by ThoniaSlim(f): 10:20am On Sep 12, 2014 |
kaka22: Thank you. |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by smudge2079(m): 10:27am On Sep 12, 2014 |
"Education is an admirable thing, but it is well to remember from time to time that nothing that is worth knowing can be taught" Que sera sera! |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by Nobody: 10:41am On Sep 12, 2014 |
cocoduck:You are not fit to even be in business with your very poor mindset ..... Your certificate is a useless one that is if you have one anyway !! Let me lecture you duck : Everything in life is business : Business implies exchanging values between people even extra-human ! Your relationship with God is business ... Do Good get rewarded with heaven and Do Bad take hell ! Your relationship with wife and children and all member of your family is business ! Infact your relationship with your body is business because you have to give it food,water among others for it to carry out your brain's instruction ! Bill Gate was a failure in Academics because he doesn't have passion for school but software thus all what the lecturers where saying he wasn't paying attention but excelled in Software creation so was Mark and SteveJob ......... Today, look @ where they are !! .... Look @ what Seun Osewa has done with Nairaland , only God knows the number of people trying to outsmart Seun but no , they failed .... Where seun lack expertise , he called in people who have such !! If the Federal Government should call upon you cocoduck , a business man to supply whatever you are selling to a particular location but Federal Government must interview you through bidding and so on before granting you such contract........So, somebody like you who cannot defend your useless certificate , how will you defend your business to obtain contract ? If you can't defend you useless certificate then how can you defend your business to obtain sales from customers ? Or you think Dangote is doing Palangolo you are doing ? ..... The essence of School (SSCE, B.Sc, M.sc,PhD ,Coren ICAN, etc) is not Job .... The primary reason for Education is KNOWLEDGE and the knowledge you acquired is what you will use to do Business !! The problem with majority of graduates is how to use what they acquired in terms of skills/knowledge to providing solution to corporate problems ..... That is why people like Jarus, etc on nairaland always come on board to inform graduates on how to do ''business'' with their certificate ...... You solve problem for a company with your engineering knowledge and get paid while you always make yourself to be relevant to your market/industry infact you can diversify by poking eye into Other people's industry e.g with ICAN an engineer can become an Accountant !!! It is all about passion .... I would rather spend Ten million Naira on London Business School to acquire MBA and other pali than using it for any palangolo business ....... With LBS certificate , I will make 10m back within a year after graduation while you are still watching your business to yield 1million naira after a year !! Watch your strength, weaknesses, Opportunities , threats , love,passion etc before you chose an endeavour ..... Don't just do things because people are doing it ! Nonsense businessman !!! 2 Likes |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by kpawoosay: 10:52am On Sep 12, 2014 |
See guys. For the fact that few out of many makes it through their merits doesn't mean that majority doesn't sticks with long legs. I"m a graduate of second class upper. yes, I was among the the people that struggle to make 3.6 but that has not giving me a credible job in Nigeria. I started applying when I was serving my country but to no avail. See pals. I believe in majority counts and as a political scientist, I believe that 3/10 against 7/10 is no go area for the formal. Even one priest confronted me and said that you have to know somebody because BEFORE U MAKE HEAVEN, U MUST KNOW CHRIST HIMSELF. Any QUESTIONS? |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by oncheckent: 11:20am On Sep 12, 2014 |
Op nice piece. You write pretty well. Have you ever wondered if completing the university, graduating with a first class and getting that great job is the perfect step? I know that with a little hard work graduating with a 4.6 gp is not difficult but is that it? I studied law, graduated with a 2.5, refused to go to law school and NYSC but I got a job with a law firm two weeks searching. I stayed there for a while, switched jobs and although am presently not employed I know I can get a job anytime I feel like it. Yeah they would not be multi nationals, oil firms or the heavy players in the financial sector but there is something they give me that I will never get working with the big boys, INITIATIVE. I ask my friends about their jobs and what I have found out is that almost everything done is monotonous. Take the guy working in a bank, he can't give a loan no matter how realistic a proposal is except it meets a standard. The guys in the stock brocking firms can't take a leap except the bosses scrutinize and approve it. What am saying this, what's wrong with getting that great grade have a number of certificates and fellowships here and there but instead of working or going into business try out something creative, outside the norm. Society has dictated to us that having the job, putting a little aside, getting that car, building that house, and retiring with that handsome balance in mutual funds is the ideal pattern. I refuse totally to be compliant, I refuse to be just another guy. We are not original even in our innovations, we say its 'something new' but the idea is an embellishment of something seen or heard somewhere. We talk about opportunities abounding but we still find shelter in the established wood work. We attend schools that teach us little or nothing that would be useful, we slave at jobs that gives little opportunity to be creative, we just go through without making that impact we dreamed about when we were children. My elder brother is a first class accounting graduate, overall best in his ACCA finals, has numerous fellowships to his name, has this wonderful job but yet lacking in one area, knowledge of the world outside his sphere. When I look at him I tell myself, no child of mine will ever be like him. I have a friend who does not have a degree but is well sought after by telecommunication companies on a scale that's mad. Erricson offered him a starting salary of 450 that would be reviewed after three months knowing his academic deficiency and he refused. My immediate elder brother has a first class in something that has to do with maths a masters to booth but do you what he does for a living? Public relations!!! I want to see the youths refusing to allow themselves follow foolhardly societies precepts. Put your brain to better use, see and do things differently and know that destiny is not prescribed but handwritten. |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by Nobody: 11:58am On Sep 12, 2014 |
Olutola88: This piece is for those undergraduates that will like to seek for jobs after school but do not have solid connection. A 1st class or 2.1 will help you AVOID or ALLEVIATE the labour market frustration. Nevertheless, the ones that have influential parents, uncles and aunts can also take a cue from it because it is easier to help someone with a good result.pls sd me a mail |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by IRRESPONSIBLE(m): 12:06pm On Sep 12, 2014 |
kaboninc:You're just being rhetorical here right? |
Re: Why You Must Finish With At Least A 2.1 by cocoduck: 12:37pm On Sep 12, 2014 |
donroxy: You are not fit to even be in business with your very poor mindset ..... Your certificate is a useless one that is if you have one anyway !!You are a fool for making such a statement, I am a christian, Lazy ;minded people like you think that business is hard like impossible FYI it is not, but is is equally not easy because nothing good in life come easy. what you really needs in life is BASIC EDUCATION, it is not gotten in the four walls of your UNI. In 2008 VOA during the credit crunch that 75% of jobs in the US is from small businesses, so that is the real benchmark of knowing when the economy of a country is growing or in recession, because it contributes to the HDI, GDP does not really tell the story. common sense they say is not common, any ways good luck jumping from office to office like a monkey searching for non existing jobs, since you don't want to build yours but want the ones built by others. please google IKEA. look at the so called engineers we have in Nigeria, up till now we are still battling with poor power supply. what then is the use of these zombies? |
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