Nori:
the op implied that we ladies should always support guys when they want to be self employed, he made no exceptions. he didn't bother to ask why a lady might tell her guy to go and work instead that's why I gave those instances, she might have noticed some negative traits I listed so she saw the need for him to get a job.

Owliver:
OP I agree with your post but you don't only get such from girls, even guys discourage someone. I am an aspiring entrepreneur and got a plan which could take longer due to low starting drive being a recent graduate. Talking to a group of guys weeks ago about settling down and I told them I would love to get married at maybe 35years old and they asked why wait 10years more since am already a graduate. and I told them I need to put things in place and wouldn't want a serious relationship for now since am in my mid 20s and You know how nigerian girl will be ringing marriage matter like towns' crier. These guys made lots of statements like, small pikin, immaturity, you wan old dey born... name them. Just because I need to accomplish something that seem unrealistic in their view point. well, that had no effect on my decision though. I still think poverty has done a bad job on we nigerians especially ladies lol, let me not even talk more on the ladies part. So in summary, guys also have such views but I agree its mostly common with our ladies

Toks2008:
Well Olwliver the truth is that you dont have to s

Well Olwliver the truth is that you dont have to shelve marriage at least from my experience,marriage does not stop you from achieving your goals but all you need is a lady that will support your dreams.

Not all Nigerian ladiies have the leech mindset so go on and achieve your goals and you must understand that most times,struggling attracts the woman we need in our lives while wealth attracts the women we want.

So go on and do your thing and i will advice you go for a very young lady of like 18 or 19 so that at least for the next 7 years therabout she wont bother u for marriage and that will allow u space to achieve your dreams but heaven helps you dont jilt her aftrwards.

Just follow ur dreams and who knows...you just might achieve your goal faster than you think...

All the best.

Owliver:
ofcos I would love to marry quick if I can get someone who'll have to understand what I want and not pressure me. The reason am not taking any chances is because the average naija girl thinks differently so worst case scenerio is what I gave out I unlike an average naija guy don't believe marriage is key to happiness so am not really freaked but if I find someone of such(which is most likely not lol) mindset then why not.

Vikky014:
TOKS2008 This ur thread reminds me of a book i read Rich Dad and Poor Dad by Robert .T.Kiyosaki. DT book really shaped my thought about being a salary earner. It even made me to strt learning many skills. before i was having this mindset of working after school bt nw i know better
It is only fear that keeps most people working as a salary earner. The fear of not paying their bills, the fear of not having enof money and the fear of starting over. but being an entrepreneur enables one to avoid one of LIFE BIGGEST TRAPS WHICH IS SALARY

As a lady i will go for any man that will mind his own business even if he is a salary earner. He shld jst hv a plan of being an entrepreneur after few yrs of earning the salary

so in other words i prefer a promising entrepreneur to a salary earner... Salary is a curse to me..

Toks2008:


Are you sure you mean all you wrote or could it be wishful comments?

In my own view i believe things should balance up meaning a lady could be a salary earner while she allows her man to pursue his busines to a conclusive end irrespective of the outcome.

But the truth be told,the blame should be on the Nigerian economy cos indeed we as Nigerians are slaves in our own country...a country that does not support young minds to be enterprising and creative and this is why many of our ladies frown at settling with a struggling budding entrepreneur.

In the western world,we can see how the country pays the unemployed enough money monthly to cater for their tummy and this is why they have the opportunity to relax and think straight thereby coming out with great inventions.

In Nigeria an individual will have to weigh the options of eating sand while building his business plan or taking up a job and once he gets that job, he is enslaved for the best part of his active years.

So even if a man decides to be an entrepreneur the question is what will the family eat while he is still working his way up? Should he ratrher remain unmarried and without a lady in his life?

So trust me,Nigeria is the greatest witch hunting us as citizens.

Vikky014:
LOL AM SAYING MY HONEST TRUTH OOO. I HV SPIRITUAL DAD. FINANCIAL DAD AND BIOLOGICAL DAD. I LEARN FROM THREE OF THEM.

Yes it is good for a lady to b a salary earner. bt as for vikky i will also hv a plan of minding my business even if am a salary earner. cos salary earner hardly buy an asset they mostly buy liabilities any time their salary increases bt as a business oriented person u invest ur money and wait for the profit bfore buying luxuries.

o:


Truth is bitter. Some guys end up underachieving because of the fear transfered to them by girlfriends and wives.

Corporate jobs and promotions are limited; entrepreneurial opportunities are not. Ladies, let that man take the risk. Support him and be proud of his small achievements.



Cc: Lalasticlala, Seun.

Toks2008:

iGBO KWENU!

Swissheart:
I have spent quality time reading and digesting every of the comments on this thread and without holding back words I am impressed and I have bn enlightened too however I want to cite an example of someone very close to me..... He has bn talking about having a business of his own and how much he loves to be independent, cool idea actually..... But then with a thorough check I realized he doesn't even have an idea of what he wants. This week he is into agriculture, next he has cars on sale...... Always floating that lately I have began to doubt the authenticity of his certificate. Jack of all..... Master of none. The game of success isnt like a toy. It is either you know where you are heading or one get trampled on by the way . No sane girl sees a promising guy who knows what he wants and how he intends getting there, and will want to be a stumbling block.


At some point I felt so uncomfortable that I suggested he finds a job..... And at that point he felt I didn't believe in him, which is not true. Even as a lady.....i do not just sit waiting for an alert that has already bn spent.

Toks as much as I agree with you I also think we have some set of ppl who lack the foresight into what they really want while some as just so lazy.

Vikky014:
HMMMM nt about IGBO OOO. IT IS JST THE MINDSET

Toks2008:


Sure i know but it also runs in the blood..

Toks2008:
If you ask any lady to choose between a salary earner or an entrepreneur i guess many will gladly go for the latter.

Yes most ladies will gladly settle for an established and successful entrepreneur but will prefer a man that earns a salary to a BUDDING entrepreneur aiming to make success of his career?

How amazing is the fact that many ladies would rather prefer a butterfly to a caterpillar.


It is amazing how an average Nigerian lady will go all out to kill the zeal of a young and promising entrepreneur simply because of the fear of the unseen,she will advice him to take up a job just because she is more interested in having the assurance that there is a regular in-flow of cash either for her selfish gains or for the sake of the children.

Ok I guess you will be saying in your mind ”this guy don come again” so do me this favor and lets do this real life testing..

If you are a guy who is still searching for job simply call your lady on the phone and tell her “honey wow! guess what? I have gotten a business idea I want to start” and please observe her response.

Wait for another week and call her again but this time say “Honey you won’t believe I got a job” and also observe her response.

And for those who are already working,simply call your lady and tell her “honey I have decided to quit my job to start my personal business” ..i am almost certain you are in for a long sermon on why you should not.

Some ladies are even kind enough to ask you to get a job first then probably raise the money for the business as though they are so certain that all the money you earn monthly from the hopeful job will be saved for your intending business and unfortunately by the time you start a job
you intend spending just few years,you will wake up after 20years to discover you are still stuck up in same job because the employers we have are pretty smart enough not to allow you space for yourself and you will even have to lie in order to attend an interview for another job offer.

Please don’t get it twisted…as a man,there is absolutely nothing wrong in taking up a job if that is what rocks your boat but I am simply laying emphases on some Nigerian ladies who lack vision,those who are mediocre and those who just believe that getting by is more important in life than attaining a potential maximum IN YOUR CHOSEN CAREER.

Our ladies must understand that just as we have men who are ok with a paid jobs and depend on the employer to gain promotion and more take home pay,we also have men who are visionary,men who would rather want to be an employer of labor rather than be an employee,men who will stop at nothing to achieve their dreams and men who will later become the Dangotes and bill gates of today and eventually become a owner of a company many see today as well established and many ladies will even pray and fast for their men to be employed there.

This is my point ladies…the choice remains yours but please do not stress our men who are visionary,determined and result oriented. Allow them pursue their dreams.Get a life for yourself,get financially independent and allow this man space to actualize his dreams.

My candid view.

Toks2008:
If you ask any lady to choose between a salary earner or an entrepreneur i guess many will gladly go for the latter.

Yes most ladies will gladly settle for an established and successful entrepreneur but will prefer a man that earns a salary to a BUDDING entrepreneur aiming to make success of his career?

How amazing is the fact that many ladies would rather prefer a butterfly to a caterpillar.


It is amazing how an average Nigerian lady will go all out to kill the zeal of a young and promising entrepreneur simply because of the fear of the unseen,she will advice him to take up a job just because she is more interested in having the assurance that there is a regular in-flow of cash either for her selfish gains or for the sake of the children.

Ok I guess you will be saying in your mind ”this guy don come again” so do me this favor and lets do this real life testing..

If you are a guy who is still searching for job simply call your lady on the phone and tell her “honey wow! guess what? I have gotten a business idea I want to start” and please observe her response.

Wait for another week and call her again but this time say “Honey you won’t believe I got a job” and also observe her response.

And for those who are already working,simply call your lady and tell her “honey I have decided to quit my job to start my personal business” ..i am almost certain you are in for a long sermon on why you should not.

Some ladies are even kind enough to ask you to get a job first then probably raise the money for the business as though they are so certain that all the money you earn monthly from the hopeful job will be saved for your intending business and unfortunately by the time you start a job
you intend spending just few years,you will wake up after 20years to discover you are still stuck up in same job because the employers we have are pretty smart enough not to allow you space for yourself and you will even have to lie in order to attend an interview for another job offer.

Please don’t get it twisted…as a man,there is absolutely nothing wrong in taking up a job if that is what rocks your boat but I am simply laying emphases on some Nigerian ladies who lack vision,those who are mediocre and those who just believe that getting by is more important in life than attaining a potential maximum IN YOUR CHOSEN CAREER.

Our ladies must understand that just as we have men who are ok with a paid jobs and depend on the employer to gain promotion and more take home pay,we also have men who are visionary,men who would rather want to be an employer of labor rather than be an employee,men who will stop at nothing to achieve their dreams and men who will later become the Dangotes and bill gates of today and eventually become a owner of a company many see today as well established and many ladies will even pray and fast for their men to be employed there.

This is my point ladies…the choice remains yours but please do not stress our men who are visionary,determined and result oriented. Allow them pursue their dreams.Get a life for yourself,get financially independent and allow this man space to actualize his dreams.

My candid view.

smvinreal:
Well as for me i can't date a guy who does'nt have anything he is doing "an idle mind is the devils workshop"

IamOdin:
Mehn cry me an ocean instead of all these.

May be modified when am done reading tho,but 4 now, Cry! Cry!! Cry!!!

*Modified*
hey bro,,you made sense from start till end,forgive my agitation cos long threads like these end up being shit but this one's really different.

You're seconded in everything u said .

But my advice to fellow entreprenuers,cos i am one,,never u,i mean NEVER u give up cos of pressures from ladies,u should know they are brainless especially the single ones and have been that way since the time of ADAM.Always stay focused and if possible DUST these distractions b4 they ruin ur career.Though i believe any determined person should know this already.

And once more big brother Toks,forgive my agitation.

My 2kobo

misspicy:
who has d summarized version pls?

Swissheart:
I have spent quality time reading and digesting every of the comments on this thread and without holding back words I am impressed and I have bn enlightened too however I want to cite an example of someone very close to me..... He has bn talking about having a business of his own and how much he loves to be independent, cool idea actually..... But then with a thorough check I realized he doesn't even have an idea of what he wants. This week he is into agriculture, next he has cars on sale...... Always floating that lately I have began to doubt the authenticity of his certificate. Jack of all..... Master of none. The game of success isnt like a toy. It is either you know where you are heading or one get trampled on by the way . No sane girl sees a promising guy who knows what he wants and how he intends getting there, and will want to be a stumbling block.


At some point I felt so uncomfortable that I suggested he finds a job..... And at that point he felt I didn't believe in him, which is not true. Even as a lady.....i do not just sit waiting for an alert that has already bn spent.

Toks as much as I agree with you I also think we have some set of ppl who lack the foresight into what they really want while some as just so lazy.

smvinreal:
Well as for me i can't date a guy who does'nt have anything he is doing "an idle mind is the devils workshop"

MrsChima:
I am so tired of this dry repetitive shit.

Toks2008:


If this is too long then i fear you need to jerk up your reading habbit.

Nori:
the op implied that we ladies should always support guys when they want to be self employed, he made no exceptions. he didn't bother to ask why a lady might tell her guy to go and work instead that's why I gave those instances, she might have noticed some negative traits I listed so she saw the need for him to get a job.

An intelligent girl spotted

Thanks for helping us humble Toks2008 and IamOdin on page 1 (is what other ladies on Nairaland would say)

*Goes back to reading comments before commenting on the topic*

Briee:
Na book you dey write?