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Re: We South-southerners Are Not In For Any F**cking BIAFRA by Nobody: 5:42am On Aug 19, 2015
hydroking23:
As a Rivers Indigene the thing I notice the most is that Igbo people are plenty in Rivers State. They marry men/women from Rivers State and are automatically entitled to all the benefits from being a Rivers indigene, RSSDA scholarships, Business start-up schemes, Civil Service positions, and political appointments, etc. On the contrary, when Rivers people go to igboland to live and do business they are immediately ostracized and the igbo's be sure to let you know that you are not an indigene. Like I said this is from my own personal experience and understanding. Igbo's stand to gain more by attaching the SS to their desired nation. But I really don't know many SS people or to be more specific, Rivers people who are willing to be a part of Biafra or any nation the Igbos create. The SS comprises so many ethnic Minorities that what would really be the benefit to being apart of Biafra? The Igbo's dominated us economically, socially and culturally during the period before the civil war. That will not change under Biafra, in fact dare say, it will be worse! The SS is best served to remain in Nigeria or to create their own nation. Biafra is not for the SS.
atbu1983:

Igbo think south south people are fools. is true many south south have been deceived. They are blackmailing us with Jonathan 2015 election. Just because they supported Jonathan as far as they are concern, south south owe them. We south south must learn to separate 2015 election from Niger delta struggle and Biafra.

Only a shortsighted south south will support south south being part of Biafra. What we want is resource control or our own nation not Biafra.
Joining Biafra will be our greatesr mistake. Igbo should form Biafra and let south south form its own confederation or different nations. Joining Biafra will be worst than south sudan. Anybody in d minority tribe who refused to agree with them will b destroyed.

South South geo-political zone has many ethnic groups and they have different views. Despite the prejudiced view you posted you still could not summon up enough boldness to identify and be identified by your ethnic nationality! There is nothing like Niger-delta tribe!

This is a free world in which you are entitled to freedom of association. You are free to merge yourselves with Yoruba, Bini, Urhobo, Itsekiri and any other interested ethnic group (that's if they will even agree to dine and die with vipers).  Stop feeling any important and leave Igbos out of your misery!

Igbos are not interested in non-Igbos of SS. Igbos have not forgotten the abandoned properties and at such do not trust them fully. There's oil in Anambra, Abia, Enugu and Imo. The whole of Enugu and Anambra States are sitting on Gas deposits; Coal at Enugu, Lime stone for cement in Abakaliki; rice in Ebonyi State; West Africa's largest market at Onitsha, Anambra; big markets at Aba, Abia state and Nnewi, Anambra...I could go on and on. Even without reliance on crude oil the Igbos have excelled and are more than ever before capable of doing  more exploits and competing with the World powers! 

Libya without river created an artificial ocean and it's functioning very well. Switzerland and Austria are landlocked. Israel turned desert to fertile ground. With technology Igbos can change their world.

“The right to development is a fundamental right by virtue of which every human person and all peoples are entitled to participate in, contribute to and enjoy economic, social and cultural development.

“It is a right which includes the exercise of full sovereignty over national resources, self determination, popular participation in development and equality of opportunity."

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Re: We South-southerners Are Not In For Any F**cking BIAFRA by Nobody: 5:48am On Aug 19, 2015
mustafo:
The incessant biafra bragging online is becoming an irritant.

The simple truth is that the ibos are going nowhere.

They can romance with the now decayed remnant of biafra as much as they want.

It is their cup of foul tea.

And what are you? Instead of spewing trash online man up and be identified by your ethnic nationality.

Charlatans who have helped to ruin this country and have gained from the injustice in the polity, would still sink as low as denying their own origin in a shameful and disgusting manner, disguising with all sort of antics and lies on Nairaland, in a bid to cow some persons to remain perpetually gullible under their diabolic spell.

Your ploys are well known. Your whims and caprices are dead on arrival!

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Re: We South-southerners Are Not In For Any F**cking BIAFRA by Nobody: 5:56am On Aug 19, 2015
1adewoye:
There is strength in numbers and the ibos are only trying to colonize SS to be used as foot-soldiers but it appears SS will not hear of such audacity.

Despicable beings who are not proud of their tribe and would still shamelessly display their treacherous nature online. Such is ingrained in their DNA.

Tell your Yoruba bigots to grow balls and stop using some other regions to shield your cowardly mien. It is so disgusting and pathetic already!

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Re: We South-southerners Are Not In For Any F**cking BIAFRA by Nobody: 6:39am On Aug 19, 2015
CHM11:

So sorry about that. There are a million things that happened in the past that have completely built a bridge between some major tribes. Just the same way the igbos hate the Northerners and the yorubas for the Biafra war (which they ridiculously call genocide), its the same way some major tribes in the SS hate the igbos.

Consider the following with a clear conscience.

The igbos were the most successful tribe in the country during the pre-war era even though the administration of the country was in the hands of the North. Thanks to minister of finance, Okotiebo. The country was still at peace as all tribes could live in other regions peacefully but the igbos were the most decentralised as they could do business in the North, SS, and SW peacefully and successfully. This wasn't good enough and with military power, Aguiyi Ironsi (from anambra) commanded his subordinate (Kaduna Nzeogwu) to carry out the first coup,...Northern leaders were killed by these soldiers in a very ridiculous way. Worse there is an interview where Major Nzeogwu was bragging about how they killed the Northern soldiers in disgustingly ridiculous ways.

This was what led to a reprisal attach by the Northerners and many igbos were killed in the North in return. Nobody went to the east to kill anybody, the east was peaceful.

Oil was just discovered in the Niger Delta region (which the igbos considered as their subordinates). Then the wanted to force the Niger Delta region into Biafra. The biafran Soldiers started from Calabar, forcing all minorities into their army. They went to akwaibom, ogoni, portharcourt, Bayelsa, ughelli, Warri, Sapele, Auchi, Benin, Okada and even Ore. As they went the killed those who refused to join them.

Then when they got to Ore, the yorubas defended their land by fighting back. The Yorubas had been silent all along and the igbos went as far as their homeland trying to invade their land.

Then came the return invasion by the federal troops who helped all SS states and when the igbos were all caged up in their hometown in SE, the federal troops had mercy and didn't attack dem till they surrendered.

Then Ojukwu Ran away to abidjan and the wise Phillip Effiong who was cajoled into the igbo dream went straight to col. Obasanjo and Obasanjo lead Effiong to go and apologise to gowon who gladly accepted his apology.

Today the igbos play the victim like they wernt the ones who started the attack from the first coup.

The invasion of minority tribe lands in Cross river, Akwaibom, Rivers, Bayelsa, Delta, Edo and even parts of Ondo by the Biafran Army, the igbos are quick to forget all these. They just want to play the victim all the time.

Hey Bini man, why are so bitter and rattled whenever you see anything on Igbo/Biafra thread that you begin to post same stories that have no source? This is a free world in which you are entitled to freedom of association. Bini people are free to merge themselves with Yoruba, Urhobo, Itsekiri and any other interested ethnic group. 

FYI, Igbos don't harbour traitors and treacherous beings!
STOP FEELING ANY IMPORTANT; YOU ARE NOT NEEDED! And leave Igbos out of your misery! 


xtrorse:


N.B.: This is mainly for the notorious history distortionists and wicked propagandists who insult and malign others continually with lies and falsehood, and shout and make much noise on every available media. The same treacheerous beings who precipitated the January 1966 coup and the 1967-70 civil war with their bloody 'Operation Wetie ' in the SW. They start trouble and heat up the polity only to run cowardly to hide in their evil Soka forest when the jungle matures. 


Before examining the January coup I must ask Awoyokun and those who share his position: why were the Igbo the primary target of the 1953 Kano Riots? Southern-Yoruba, Igbo, Niger Delta-politicians argued for independence in 1956 as against the Northern demand for independence as soon as practicable. Southerners, not only the Igbo, reacted hostilely to the Northerners’ carrying the day at the end of proceedings in the Legislative Chamber in Lagos. Chief S. L. Akintola, the chieftain of the dominantly Yoruba party, Action Group, set for a rather provocative tour of Kano shortly afterwards. Though the tour was called off the violence was not. In his autobiography ‘The Story of My Life’ Sir Ahmadu Bello stated: ‘Here in Kano, as things fell out, the fighting took place between the Hausas…and the Ibos; the Yorubas were oddly enough out of it.’

It is clear that it was not in 1966 that the ritual of killing the Igbo in the North at the slightest whim started.

Adewale Ademoyega, a full blooded Yoruba army officer, was deeply involved in the planning and execution of the January coup. His book ‘Why We Struck’ gives insight into the coup’s antecedents; planning; modus operandi and partial success. Any study of January 15 that ignores Ademoyega’s book is incomplete.

In a September 5 2010 interview with ‘The Nation’ newspaper, Matthew Mbu, then a Junior Defence Minister, narrated how, at an Air Force base in Kaduna on an official assignment on 5 January 1966, he was bluntly told by Brigadier Samuel Ademulegun that the military was going to sack the government. Ademulegun made no bones about their plan to shoot key members of the political class, notably Chief Okotie-Eboh, the Minister for Finance.

Much has been made of the non-killing of Igbo members of the political class; that no coup was carried out in Enugu; and Ifeajuna tipped off President Nnamdi Azikiwe. Till date, in certain circles, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, the killing of Lieutenant-Colonel Arthur Unegbe is attributed to his possession and non-surrender of the Lagos armoury keys to the plotters.

As professional soldiers the plotters knew this. Going by the accounts of Ademoyega and Gbulie who wrote ‘Nigeria’s Five Majors,’ what the plotters desperately needed were armoured vehicles to consolidate their gains in Lagos on January 15.

In page 60 of his book, Ademoyega mentioned Unegbe as one of the officers he and his colleagues had marked down for arrest.

Northern officers and men were involved, especially at the execution stage. Max Silloun, the military historian, mentions them in his landmark online article ‘The inside story of Nigeria’s first military coup Parts 1 and 2.’ It can be accessed from most search engines. Prominent among these Northern officers was the then Lieutenant John Atom Kpera who later became the Benue State governor in the Babangida regime. Kpera participated in the coup under Captain Ben Gbulie, Nzeogwu’s right hand-man in Kaduna. (See Ben Gbulie: ‘Nigeria’s Five Majors.’).

Although Ademoyega is the most prominent Yoruba participant in the coup, there were other Yoruba officers who were involved at the dangerous execution stage of the coup. One of them is Second Lieutenant Olafimihan, an officer serving under Madiebo in Kaduna. He was sent by the plotters to gauge his commander’s loyalty. (See Madiebo pp.17-18). Another is Lieutenant (some books refer to him as a Captain) Fola Oyewole. He, like Ademoyega, went on to fight for Biafra and wrote a book on his coup and wartime experiences. The book’s title is ‘Reluctant Rebel.’ There is also Captain Ganiyu Adeleke who became an instructor in the Biafran Infantry School. For confirmation, see the list of coup plotters detained by Ironsi’s regime in Ademoyega pp.106-108, and this quote from Nowa Omoigui’s online account: ‘Mid-Western Invasion of 1967’: ‘Captain Ganiyu Adeleke, who had taken part in both the January 15 coup and the Mid-Western invasion before becoming an instructor in the Biafran School of Infantry was released at a later date after his co-plotters had been freed.’ Omoigui’s work is significant because, though he exhibits a high level of professionalism in his research, he has no sympathy for the January 15 coup. If his facts corroborate Ademoyega’s they are worthy of attention.


http://www.naijastories.com/2013/04/the-facts-and-fiction-of-the-january-15-1966-coup/

xtrorse:


BLOOD ON THE NIGER: THE FIRST BLACK ON BLACK OCTOBER 1967 GENOCIDE OF ASABA PEOPLE BY MURTALA, GOWON  AND AWOLOWO

...Like my father and elder brother that were part of the over 1000 youths that were killed on October 7, 1967, in Asaba, most of them were members of the Action Group (AG). The people that believed in the NCNC at that time left for the east. My father who worked in Enugu, Nsukka, Uzuakoli and Kafanchan as a civil servant could have gone to the east. But he believed in that war. He was an apostle of the Awo ideas-free education and free medical services. In fact, the Asaba General Hospital that is now a Specialist Hospital was brought to us by the AG led by Nduka Eze, another AG hardliner who left the Zikist Movement to join Awolowo. But Nduka Eze's wife was killed by the federal troop under the command of Murtala Mohammed because she refused to be touched because they were defiling women at random when they came in.

The genocide against the Igbos has been proved beyond reasonable doubt by the apology made to Asaba people by General Gowon when he came there after the release of the Blood On The Niger. The genocide against the Igbos was proved beyond reasonable doubt at the Oputa panel which the federal government has up till now refused to publish the findings. Bishop Desmond Tutu chaired the Truth and Justice tribunal in South Africa to find out what happened in South Africa during the apartheid period. It was accepted by both sides and just look at the peace that has prevailed there since then. Why would Nigeria not publish the findings of the Oputa Panel where it has been proved beyond reasonable doubt that pilots were throwing bombs at random into market places in Uzuakoli, Uzuitem and Nsukka, where bottles and implements were also used against women during the war.

History is an account of the actions of actors in a community or in a state recorded that made impacts during their time. Awolowo was a great leader; great politician and great performer in government but his activities during the civil war were negative. If you are a writer, you cannot defend his position that starvation is an instrument of warfare. Starvation cannot be an instrument of warfare when you are fighting a civil war. 

Nigeria was being supplied arms from all countries. For the first time there was an unholy alliance between the Soviet Union and the West. It had never happened before. Any place that there was a war of revolution, the USSR is always taking the place of the revolutionary. How come that the USSR for the first time allied with the West against Biafra? So, let somebody go and disprove Achebe; that is what we want to see not that somebody did not commit genocide. Genocide has been proved to be committed. If there were no genocide, the World Council of Churches, the Caritas wouldn't have come in droves. If genocide was not committed, why did Biafra lose two million casualties, most of them civilians and children? And if people are not apologising to Igbos, why should they now come out to talk because one man has been put to where he belongs in history. He was the principal protagonist of using starvation as an instrument of warfare against his fellow citizens. Remember that Nigeria was fighting a war of unity. They were not as desperate as the other camp that was fighting a war of secession. So, in international convention Geneva included, you don't use starvation against civilians, you don't use firearms against civilians and you don't use bombs. Are they saying they didn't bomb civilians during the war? The Nigerian Air Force was very pronounced in its use of bombs on civilians and their targets were churches, market places and hospitals. These were recorded by missionaries and foreign journalists. 

Awolowo was the Minister of Finance under Gowon. He was the de facto prime minister of Nigeria during the war and he performed. I don't grudge him for winning the war for Nigeria; for changing the currency. He can win the war by all means but the fact that he prevented massive aid from coming is genocidal.

There was an inhuman instance. There was an incident where a Red Cross plane coming with medication and food was blown off the sky for the beleaguered people of Biafra. Even after the war, what was the purpose of denying Igbos their primary source of protein-stockfish? How can you defend the policy of giving people who have lost everything only 20 Pounds? If there is anybody that should have been given more, the returning war battered people of Biafra should have received more.

The Igbos have always accepted Awolowo as a great leader but his activities during the civil war shocked them. BY THE OBJECTIVE OF THE JANUARY 15 COUP, as quoted by Odia Ofeimun, the poet, the boys believed he was the greatest leader. 
THE LEADERS OF THE COULD, WERE TO MAKE CHIEF AWOLOWO THE PRIME MINISTER OF NIGERIA.
These coup leaders didn't go for Azikiwe or Balewa. They wanted Chief Awolowo as quoted by Odia in a 1999 edition of The Guardian. Awolowo was supposed to be released by the Nzeogwu coup, which didn't have its assumed ending; it was aborted half way. It was Nzeogwu's colleague, Major Nzegwu that was supposed to pick him from Calabar prison and release him. So, I'm proving to you that the Igbo literality have always accepted Awo as one of the best and great leaders the country has ever produced but his activities during the war did not only shock them but betrayed the trust they had in.

During the whole peace conferences from Niamey to Kinshasha, Awolowo, Enahoro and Alison Ayida, who was a permanent secretary, always took a hawkish stand. That was why in the Niamey conference of 1968 Alison Ayida quoted Awo exactly that starvation is an instrument of warfare. This was at a time when millions of Biafran children were dying off. And death by starvation is not an ordinary death. It is for you to experience it. It was horror and the photographs are there but Awolowo and his henchmen never batted an eyelid even after the war. That is why we glorify other great literality like Wole Soyinka who told us in his book A Man Died that extermination was committed in Asaba. He was the first courageous soul in Nigeria that told the world about the Asaba massacre.


http://nigeriavillagesquare.com/forum/main-square/73341-most-those-murdered-asaba-muritala-gowon-awo-were-action-group-members-emma-okocha-author-blood-niger.html

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Re: We South-southerners Are Not In For Any F**cking BIAFRA by cheruv: 8:07am On Aug 19, 2015
trapQ:
big FOOL. I bet you dont even listen to your nnamdi kanu, because if you did, you'd know that he always includes the non igbos in the SS alongside the igbos. the other day, he talked about warri and how its in biafra. so you should shut up and stop ranting when you actually dont know nothing
Oh sweetheart you're pouring spittle on me angry
Just spread the legs kos am making a grand entrance grin
Re: We South-southerners Are Not In For Any F**cking BIAFRA by cheruv: 8:10am On Aug 19, 2015
laudate:


Hater alert!
I can't imagine you're being stvpid just for sweetlemon's Toto undecided
Re: We South-southerners Are Not In For Any F**cking BIAFRA by hertz9te(m): 8:22am On Aug 19, 2015
trapQ:
lmao... no southerner in their right mind will go to the east. its not fvcking habitable.... aba is in a state of calamity. the dirtiest, most horrifying shit=hole the world has ever known. no thanks!
thanks for the compliment,,,,,now stick to your bloody south south and never go there again,,,,,you dont want our dirty environment to pollute your precious lungs.......y'all will never learn
Re: We South-southerners Are Not In For Any F**cking BIAFRA by cheruv: 8:29am On Aug 19, 2015
trapQ:
are you being stupid on purpose? dont @ me again!!!
Since melzabull is on top of sweetlemon matter, I'd now be on top of your own.and I make you this pledge.. That I'd keep on stalking you till you deactivate your account.
Anytime the "we SS.." people show up,I'd use you as my rag to wipe them out.that I promise you and I know that the lord of light,transformer of transformations and the eye that peers forth from the great Nu would help me do it.
Chukwu Abiama has seen this pledge I've made to you and he'd help me keep it cool

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Re: We South-southerners Are Not In For Any F**cking BIAFRA by laudate: 8:38am On Aug 19, 2015
cheruv:

I can't imagine you're being stvpid just for sweetlemon's Toto undecided

How sad! Kindly get your mind out of the gutter! Can't imagine any well-brought up person with good home training, posting what you just did up here... sad sad Did your folks at home do a poor job raising you? Just asking.

Because you just proved my point again, that you and your people are filled with hate! Keep up the good work! angry
Re: We South-southerners Are Not In For Any F**cking BIAFRA by Kalvan: 8:57am On Aug 19, 2015
I'm glad my SS brothers are starting to see through the Yeebow propaganda.

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Re: We South-southerners Are Not In For Any F**cking BIAFRA by Rose2014: 9:11am On Aug 19, 2015
barcanista:
I don't know why some people out of insecurity will create threads of "South South will not be Biafra" "SS can never be part of Biafra" "Igbo want our Oyeeeeeeel" and bla bla bla.

If not for insecurity why will people create such threads repeatedly? The question of SS being part of Biafra is not subject to debate. The SS has different ethnic groups- Igbo/Ikwerre, Ijaw, Itsekiri, Urhobo, Ekpeye, Bini, Esan, Efik, Ibibio etc. Every ethnic group is distinct from each other and will INDEPENDENTLY determine whether or not they want to be with the project Biafra. As it stands today, the relationship between the Igbos within the SS and those in the SE is BLOOD bonded. The relationship between the Ijaws and the entire Igbo is waxing stronger and stronger and we see each other as worthy brothers/cousins. Same with Ibibio and Igbos. The Binis and the Ethnic nationalities of Old Bendel (Edo and Delta states) have all had harmonous relationship among themselves. They all voted in a referendum to stay together in an independent Midwest region (Bini, Igbo, Ijaw, Urobo, Esan etc). If Biafran question comes today, majority of these ethnic groups will vote a resounding YES over the present Nigerian structure. There is nothing like "SS Igbo and SE Igbo", Igbo is Igbo whether they are in SS or SE, just as Ijaw is Ijaw whether in Rivers state, Bayelsa state, Delta state, Edo state or Ondo state. All these people creating threads like this and making statements like "we the South South" should come to terms with the reality. There is no ethnic group called South South. There has never been a time when "South South" appointed anybody to speak for them. Individuals can only speak for their tribes.

Nevertheless, some of us have been trying to see how we can foster harmonous relationship among Nigerian ethnic groups so as to maintain our unity. We have been seeking for good governance and a restructured system. We have been trying to see that this country Nigeria allows everyone equal opportunity whether Yoruba, Hausa, Igbo or Itsekiri. We believe that the agitation for an independent Biafra will only be dropped WHEN the country Nigeria is structured in a way that is acceptable to all ethnic nationalities.


God Bless Us All

That is the koko right there.
But will 'the powers that be' agree to have Nigeria restructured to ensure equity n fairness?

Sadly the answer remains a resounding NO
Re: We South-southerners Are Not In For Any F**cking BIAFRA by cheruv: 9:24am On Aug 19, 2015
laudate:


So sad! Kindly get your mind out of the gutter! Can't imagine any well-brought up person with good home training, posting what you just did up here... sad sad Did your folks at home do a poor job raising you? Just asking.

Because you just proved my point again, that you and your people are filled with hate! Keep up the good work! angry
We'd prove you again and again..
Ruo mgbe ozodimgba ndi a bi n'odida anyanwu gākwusi iku aka n'obi n'elu Biafra
Re: We South-southerners Are Not In For Any F**cking BIAFRA by laudate: 9:40am On Aug 19, 2015
cheruv:

Ye'd prove you again and again..
Ruo mgbe ozodimgba ndi a bi n'odida anyanwu gākwusi iku aka n'obi n'elu Biafra

Hehehe..... wink cheesy cheesy Nothing wey person no go see for here.

Your campaign of hate can never win any converts to your cause, or sympathy for Biafra. Continue hating. undecided

In fact, it makes others look down on your group. Psychology 101.
Re: We South-southerners Are Not In For Any F**cking BIAFRA by Nobody: 9:46am On Aug 19, 2015
Kalvan:
I'm glad my SS brothers are starting to see through the Yeebow propaganda.

I do not hate Igbo people. Many of my friends are Igbo. I only hate thier deceit and greed. what is good for the goose is good for the gander.
What we dont want is a dominant tribe simple. If south south join Biafra, that country will be 60% Igbo. How do you think other minorities can compete in that kind of country? Whether we like it or not we both know that Igbo are not diplomatic people by nature. That will lead to complete extinction of other tribe. in less than 50years they will make the whole Biafra Ibo without any consideration.

I dont hate Igbo. But i hate when i know the Biafra they seek is a Biafra with current south south as an appendage to it.

Why cant they support our freedom, and we will support thier freedom. Why do igbo make it look like it is wrong for Niger Delta people to seek thier own freedom outside Biafra? In biafra current south south minority will be like conquered people. God forbid that to happen.

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Re: We South-southerners Are Not In For Any F**cking BIAFRA by laudate: 10:17am On Aug 19, 2015
Towards an Ethnicity of Values By Okey Ndibe
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"It is dispiriting enough to run into unlettered Nigerians who can’t see the right or wrong of any issue without first wearing their ethnic or religious lens. It becomes sordid when those who are seemingly educated resort to viewing matters of profound import through the lazy, easy, hardly pertinent prism of ethnic aggregations or religious affiliations.

Such haste to seize and spout ethnic jingoism or religious jingles raises serious questions about the form and content of education in Nigeria. At its best, education is a tool that frees and enlarges the mind, enabling the educated to see matters without the blinkers of ignorance or parochial platitudes....

One is constantly shocked by the ethno-religious name-calling, between different Nigerian groups on Internet forums.

The dirtiest epithets are hurled at the ethnic or religious “Other.”


Those with access to the Internet—many of them, one imagines, university graduates—frequently promulgate ideas that members of other ethnic groups are sinister and diabolical, in short as the very incarnations of evil. In like fashion, these Internet partisans often make sweeping ethical claims for those who belong to their states, ethnicity or religion.

Such claims, whether they denounce or extol whole groups, are caricaturist in nature. They have little or no validity, even when they appear persuasive or seductive. In fact, we should recognize them as inimical to the cultivation of a broad base of enlightened society.

I have argued elsewhere that ethnic baiting and stigmatization often precede genocidal horrors. The free circulation of ideas of the inherent villainy of members of other ethnic groups, and the inherent moral goodness of members of one’s own ethnic collectivity, is a clear and present danger.

Those who champion such attitudes are ever reluctant to subject their positions to self-scrutiny.


They seldom pause to interrogate the legitimacy of their notions of collective guilt and collective heroism. Without any form of examination, ethics is collapsed to the size and shape of ethnicity".
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http://saharareporters.com/column/towards-ethnicity-values-okey-ndibe

Okey Ndibe, I salute you for this piece! In fact, you deserve a national award. You echoed my sentiments, exactly. cheesy

You need to spend one week in the 'politics' section on Nairaland, and I swear that you will find perfect examples of people displaying all the traits listed in the highlighted portion, of your comments.

Some of them have 1st, 2nd or even 3rd degrees in various disciplines, yet their affinity for using subjective analysis to attack other ethnic nationalities, betrays an inherent pathological disorder.
Re: We South-southerners Are Not In For Any F**cking BIAFRA by Nobody: 10:36am On Aug 19, 2015
In a bid to please their master, the Yorubas' obsession with the affairs of Igbo and some other southerners continues to manifest and escalate with reckless abandon.

For many years the Yoruba tribe have flourished on lies and propaganda and now it is getting done on them that their usual deceit and falsehood are no longer working. Like a decapitated viper, an avalanche of these vagabonds and vermins have been let loosed by their greedy leaders, to invade every cyberspace with fraudulent monikers claiming to be who they are not, faking undying love like never before, in their stupid desperation to maintain the status quo in the polity and subject their victims to perpetual bondage and penury.

The bitter truth is that their poisonous fangs have since expired and lost potency; but their great delusion and foolhardiness would not allow them give up till they meet their waterloo...
Re: We South-southerners Are Not In For Any F**cking BIAFRA by Nobody: 10:55am On Aug 19, 2015
atbu1983:


I do not hate Igbo people. Many of my friends are Igbo. I only hate thier deceit and greed. what is good for the goose is good for the gander.
What we dont want is a dominant tribe simple. If south south join Biafra, that country will be 60% Igbo. How do you think other minorities can compete in that kind of country? Whether we like it or not we both know that Igbo are not diplomatic people by nature. That will lead to complete extinction of other tribe. in less than 50years they will make the whole Biafra Ibo without any consideration.

I dont hate Igbo. But i hate when i know the Biafra they seek is a Biafra with current south south as an appendage to it.

Why cant they support our freedom, and we will support thier freedom. Why do igbo make it look like it is wrong for Niger Delta people to seek thier own freedom outside Biafra? In biafra current south south minority will be like conquered people. God forbid that to happen.

South South geo-political zone has many ethnic groups and they have different views. Despite the prejudiced views you posted you still could not summon up enough boldness to append your ethnic nationality to at least lay more credence to your views! There is nothing like Niger-delta tribe!

This is a free world in which you are entitled to freedom of association. You are free to merge yourselves with Yoruba, Bini, Esan, Itsekiri and any other interested ethnic group.  Stop feeling any important and leave Igbos out of your misery!

Igbos are not interested in non-Igbos of SS. Igbos have not forgotten the abandoned properties and at such do not trust them fully. There's oil in Anambra, Abia, Enugu and Imo. The whole of Enugu and Anambra States are sitting on Gas deposits; Coal at Enugu, Lime stone for cement in Abakaliki; rice in Ebonyi State; West Africa's largest market at Onitsha, Anambra; big markets at Aba, Abia state and Nnewi, Anambra...I could go on and on. Even without reliance on crude oil the Igbos have excelled and are more than ever before capable of doing  more exploits and competing with the World powers! 

Libya without river created an artificial ocean and it's functioning very well. Switzerland and Austria are landlocked. Israel turned desert to fertile ground. With technology Igbos can change their world.

“The right to development is a fundamental right by virtue of which every human person and all peoples are entitled to participate in, contribute to and enjoy economic, social and cultural development.

“It is a right which includes the exercise of full sovereignty over national resources, self determination, popular participation in development and equality of opportunity."
Re: We South-southerners Are Not In For Any F**cking BIAFRA by laudate: 11:12am On Aug 19, 2015
Hehehe wink cheesy .... are Yoruba people the only ethnic group in Nigeria?? Why are some folks so preoccupied with them?Chai! There are over 150 other tribes in this country, oh. Is it that other groups don't count? This thing is becoming an obsession! shocked shocked shocked

The 'juju' those Yoruba people cooked, must be very potent. With so many churches conducting deliverance sessions these days, those that have this problem should seek help, sharp-sharp!

Abeg, wey my popcorn? Na here I keep am just now... undecided

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Re: We South-southerners Are Not In For Any F**cking BIAFRA by honourhim: 11:34am On Aug 19, 2015
TVTKOKO:
you can as well check my previous post i said my mum being yoruba??

You are a bloody hypocrite. Your tricks have been busted and u are here talking rubbish. When will yoruba stop being hypocritical?
Re: We South-southerners Are Not In For Any F**cking BIAFRA by SonOfEl(m): 12:13pm On Aug 19, 2015
laudate:
Hehehe wink cheesy .... are Yoruba people the only ethnic group in Nigeria?? Why are some folks so preoccupied with them?Chai! There are over 150 other tribes in this country, oh. Is it that other groups don't count? This thing is becoming an obsession! shocked shocked shocked

The 'juju' those Yoruba people cooked, must be very potent. With so many churches conducting deliverance sessions these days, those that have this problem should seek help, sharp-sharp!

Abeg, wey my popcorn? Na here I keep am just now... undecided

see hypocrite. abi na una wet no fit. sleep because of IGBOS.
Re: We South-southerners Are Not In For Any F**cking BIAFRA by Akan(m): 12:20pm On Aug 19, 2015
CHM11:

So sorry about that. There are a million things that happened in the past that have completely built a bridge between some major tribes. Just the same way the igbos hate the Northerners and the yorubas for the Biafra war (which they ridiculously call genocide), its the same way some major tribes in the SS hate the igbos.

Consider the following with a clear conscience.

The igbos were the most successful tribe in the country during the pre-war era even though the administration of the country was in the hands of the North. Thanks to minister of finance, Okotiebo. The country was still at peace as all tribes could live in other regions peacefully but the igbos were the most decentralised as they could do business in the North, SS, and SW peacefully and successfully. This wasn't good enough and with military power, Aguiyi Ironsi (from anambra) commanded his subordinate (Kaduna Nzeogwu) to carry out the first coup,...Northern leaders were killed by these soldiers in a very ridiculous way. Worse there is an interview where Major Nzeogwu was bragging about how they killed the Northern soldiers in disgustingly ridiculous ways.

This was what led to a reprisal attach by the Northerners and many igbos were killed in the North in return. Nobody went to the east to kill anybody, the east was peaceful.

Oil was just discovered in the Niger Delta region (which the igbos considered as their subordinates). Then the wanted to force the Niger Delta region into Biafra. The biafran Soldiers started from Calabar, forcing all minorities into their army. They went to akwaibom, ogoni, portharcourt, Bayelsa, ughelli, Warri, Sapele, Auchi, Benin, Okada and even Ore. As they went the killed those who refused to join them.

Then when they got to Ore, the yorubas defended their land by fighting back. The Yorubas had been silent all along and the igbos went as far as their homeland trying to invade their land.

Then came the return invasion by the federal troops who helped all SS states and when the igbos were all caged up in their hometown in SE, the federal troops had mercy and didn't attack dem till they surrendered.

Then Ojukwu Ran away to abidjan and the wise Phillip Effiong who was cajoled into the igbo dream went straight to col. Obasanjo and Obasanjo lead Effiong to go and apologise to gowon who gladly accepted his apology.

Today the igbos play the victim like they wernt the ones who started the attack from the first coup.

The invasion of minority tribe lands in Cross river, Akwaibom, Rivers, Bayelsa, Delta, Edo and even parts of Ondo by the Biafran Army, the igbos are quick to forget all these. They just want to play the victim all the time.
bros I hope u drink, because a bottle of dry gin is yours when ever u visit Uyo. Just holla me

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Re: We South-southerners Are Not In For Any F**cking BIAFRA by TVTKOKO(m): 12:21pm On Aug 19, 2015
honourhim:


You are a bloody hypocrite. Your tricks have been busted and u are here talking rubbish. When will yoruba stop being hypocritical?
how dare you quote me? I won't stoop so low to trade words with you...i'll pass
Re: We South-southerners Are Not In For Any F**cking BIAFRA by laudate: 12:29pm On Aug 19, 2015
SonOfEl:


see hypocrite. abi na una wet no fit. sleep because of IGBOS.

Are you talking to me??! I laugh .... in Greek! Bros, it is actually the other way round.

Your own people appear to be the ones that can't sleep, because of these ubiquitous Yoruba people. Every where you turn...it is 'Yoruba this'...or Yoruba, that...?? Is this group the only one in Nigeria?/

Other ethnic groups who are neither Yoruba nor Igbo, have had their ears filled to the brim with all the brick bats and hate missiles, you guys throw at each other. You all need to grow up honestly! shocked shocked angry

The only hypocrisy here, is from your Igbo group that persists in blaming everybody else from other ethnic groups for their own woes! And they delight in using foul, putrid language to address simple issues, as if they were not schooled in the rudiments of basic good manners. Haba! angry
Re: We South-southerners Are Not In For Any F**cking BIAFRA by SonOfEl(m): 12:34pm On Aug 19, 2015
laudate:


Are you talking to me??! I laugh .... in Greek! Bros, it is actually the other way round.

Your own people appear to be the ones that can't sleep, because of these ubiquitous Yoruba people. Every where you turn...it is 'Yoruba this'...or Yoruba, that...?? Is this group the only one in Nigeria?/

Other ethnic groups who are neither Yoruba nor Igbo, have had their ears filled to the brim with all the brick bats and hate missiles, you guys throw at each other. You all need to grow up honestly! shocked shocked angry

The only hypocrisy here, is from your Igbo group that persists in blaming everybody else from other ethnic groups for their own woes! And they delight in using foul, putrid language to address simple issues, as if they were not schooled in the rudiments of basic good manners. Haba! angry

and it is your ngbatis that use graceful and respectful words in addressing simple issues abi......? keep deceiving your soul.

go and talk to your ngbatis first e.g after1, totit, etc, before facing IGBOS.

we have decided to reply the Igbo bashing going on in NL since.
Re: We South-southerners Are Not In For Any F**cking BIAFRA by kernel501: 12:36pm On Aug 19, 2015
onenaira3:


Is this nigga for real? I provided a direct statement with his full name which is Yoruba. A direct statement where the OP stated his language is Yoruba and another statement where he also called sw as his people. Therefore, who should be named? Martians. No, he's not Yoruba, he's in fact from mars. Mtschewwww

And yes I'm not ashamed of my hatred for una. All you people display on this forum and other media outlet is constant bigotry and una constant display of bigotry fuels my hatred of una and I'm not sorry about that.

Anyway, I'm done with this thread. Bye

Come and enjoy the fruit of your labour shameless bigot with no sense of direction.
Re: We South-southerners Are Not In For Any F**cking BIAFRA by laudate: 12:40pm On Aug 19, 2015
SonOfEl:


and it is your ngbatis that use graceful and respectful words in addressing simple issues abi......? keep deceiving your soul.

go and talk to your ngbatis first e.g after1, totit, etc, before facing IGBOS.

Hehehe... cheesy grin you are still making the same mistake that your people always make (i.e. tagging everyone who disagrees with you as a 'Yoruba' man, simply because he does not see eye to eye with you). Unfortunately for you, I am not an 'n'gbati', Yoruba or ofe'manu. cool

Face them, when you want to exchange your daily dose of insults as part of your staple diet.
Re: We South-southerners Are Not In For Any F**cking BIAFRA by SonOfEl(m): 12:45pm On Aug 19, 2015
laudate:


Hehehe... cheesy grin you are still making the same mistake that your people always make i.e. tagging everyone who disagrees with you as a 'Yoruba' man, simply because he does not see eye to eye with you. Unfortunately for you, I am not an 'Yoruba', Yoruba or ofe'manu. cool

Face them, when you want to exchange your daily dose of insults as part of your staple diet.

you are not making any sense even with your justifications. dude, you don't have to be Yoruba in order to support their views in antagonizing Igbo.
Re: We South-southerners Are Not In For Any F**cking BIAFRA by laudate: 12:54pm On Aug 19, 2015
SonOfEl:


you are not making any sense even with your justifications. dude, you don't have to be Yoruba in order to support their views in antagonizing Igbo.

Point out the post in this thread where I supported the Yoruba in antagonising the Igbo. You are the one not making sense, because you do not see the Igbo who are always quick to unleash a vitriol of hate against anyone with a different viewpoint. undecided

For example, a person says something like: "the South-South will not support Biafra....". Instead of your folks to educate such a person on the fact that, "different groups make up the SS, and the SS Igbo's support is what matters," ... they jump down the person's throat, insult and vilify him, his clan, his ethnic group and family with the most disgusting, vile epithets you can think of. shocked shocked sad

Maka, why??

Is that the way to build support for your cause??
Re: We South-southerners Are Not In For Any F**cking BIAFRA by TVTKOKO(m): 1:05pm On Aug 19, 2015
laudate:
Hehehe wink cheesy .... are Yoruba people the only ethnic group in Nigeria?? Why are some folks so preoccupied with them?Chai! There are over 150 other tribes in this country, oh. Is it that other groups don't count? This thing is becoming an obsession! shocked shocked shocked

The 'juju' those Yoruba people cooked, must be very potent. With so many churches conducting deliverance sessions these days, those that have this problem should seek help, sharp-sharp!

Abeg, wey my popcorn? Na here I keep am just now... undecided
anybody talking against the igbo brothers are automatically yorubas.i don't know if yorubas are the only tribe in Nigeria.
I created a topic, and one nimcompoop went to do research if the name is yoruba.

My mum is a yoruba,while my dad is from the south but i'd rather/wish to be called a yoruba anyday, but that doesn't change my source!
Re: We South-southerners Are Not In For Any F**cking BIAFRA by hydroking23(m): 1:10pm On Aug 19, 2015
xtrorse:



South South geo-political zone has many ethnic groups and they have different views. Despite the prejudiced view you posted you still could not summon up enough boldness to identify and be identified by your ethnic nationality! There is nothing like Niger-delta tribe!

This is a free world in which you are entitled to freedom of association. You are free to merge yourselves with Yoruba, Bini, Urhobo, Itsekiri and any other interested ethnic group (that's if they will even agree to dine and die with vipers).  Stop feeling any important and leave Igbos out of your misery!

Igbos are not interested in non-Igbos of SS. Igbos have not forgotten the abandoned properties and at such do not trust them fully. There's oil in Anambra, Abia, Enugu and Imo. The whole of Enugu and Anambra States are sitting on Gas deposits; Coal at Enugu, Lime stone for cement in Abakaliki; rice in Ebonyi State; West Africa's largest market at Onitsha, Anambra; big markets at Aba, Abia state and Nnewi, Anambra...I could go on and on. Even without reliance on crude oil the Igbos have excelled and are more than ever before capable of doing  more exploits and competing with the World powers! 

Libya without river created an artificial ocean and it's functioning very well. Switzerland and Austria are landlocked. Israel turned desert to fertile ground. With technology Igbos can change their world.

“The right to development is a fundamental right by virtue of which every human person and all peoples are entitled to participate in, contribute to and enjoy economic, social and cultural development.

“It is a right which includes the exercise of full sovereignty over national resources, self determination, popular participation in development and equality of opportunity."

It's nice to see your ethnic pride. Very refreshing. I don't know if you were referring to me about not revealing my ethnicity but if it makes you feel better I'm Ogoni. You claim the Igbos aren't interested in non-igbos of the SS then why does the rhetoric of all sympathizers claim ALL SS states as representing Biafra. Even in your old dispensation prior to the civil war ALL the SS are included. Your oil deposits are insignificant to say the least. The oil and gas deposits in Ogoni land alone rivals that of your supposed nation state. In Rivers state fringe communities such as Etche and Omuma and Oyigbo deny their obvious igbo heritage. They want no part of Biafra. So don't sit here and act like the Igbos only want the Igbos of the SS. They NEED the entire SS for their pipe dream to even come close to being a reality and unfortunately it ain't gonna happen!
Re: We South-southerners Are Not In For Any F**cking BIAFRA by Nobody: 1:16pm On Aug 19, 2015
TVTKOKO:
anybody talking against the igbo brothers are automatically yorubas.i don't know if yorubas are the only tribe in Nigeria.
I created a topic, and one nimcompoop went to do research if the name is yoruba.

My mum is a yoruba,while my dad is from the south but i'd rather/wish to be called a yoruba anyday, but that doesn't change my source!
Lies! you're a yo-robber person lying and fraud is in your DNA.
Re: We South-southerners Are Not In For Any F**cking BIAFRA by laudate: 1:16pm On Aug 19, 2015
hydroking23:


It's nice to see your ethnic pride. Very refreshing. I don't know if you were referring to me about not revealing my ethnicity but if it makes you feel better I'm Ogoni. You claim the Igbos aren't interested in non-igbos of the SS then why does the rhetoric of all sympathizers claim ALL SS states as representing Biafra. Even in your old dispensation prior to the civil war ALL the SS are included. Your oil deposits are insignificant to say the least. The oil and gas deposits in Ogonia land alone rivals that of your supposed nation state. In Rivers state fringe communities such as Etche and Omuma and Oyigbo deny their obvious igbo heritage. They want no part of Biafra. So don't sit here and act like the Igbos only want the Igbos of the SS. They NEED the entire SS for their pipe dream to even come close to being a reality and unfortunately it ain't gonna happen!

You see this is where I have a little problem with your write up. undecided

You were expressing your views reasonably, until you got towards the end where you were speaking for other South-South (SS) tribes.

Guy, you can only speak for yourself, and not the entire South-South. There are too many minority ethnic groups that make up the South-South, and it is even difficult to predict where the loyalties of every single one of them, lies. sad

Even within the same SS community, you would find those who are in support of Biafra, as well as those who are against it. So why speak for everybody??

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