Re: Itsekiri Nation Disowns Calls For Creation Of Biafra Republic by Yanks101: 9:21am On Oct 28, 2015 |
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Re: Itsekiri Nation Disowns Calls For Creation Of Biafra Republic by ikombe: 9:21am On Oct 28, 2015 |
PassingShot: Let Igbos fight for their secession without dragging other tribes into it. And if they go about it in a civilized manner, they might actually find sympathy and support from some other nationalities.
The current campaign of hate and violence against Nigeria WILL NEVER achieve Biafra for them. It has never worked and it will not work in Nigeria. walai na only you get beta talk about biafra . Others go dey insult dem . Chop knuckle ma nigga ☺ 1 Like |
Re: Itsekiri Nation Disowns Calls For Creation Of Biafra Republic by calaway: 9:21am On Oct 28, 2015 |
Goodboiyy:
Have you forgotten how they plotted to kill David Ejoor ?, if not for the Help of an Edo chief who rescued him.. I don't need anybody to tell me about the war, my mom always tell me about it, they always blamed Yoruba of twisting fact.. but majority of what Yoruba said about them are true.
if you have anybody that withness the war just ask them about the atrocities commited by Igbo soldiers
We ARE Watching you are all lairs twisting history. anioma suffered only under the Nigerian army. it was here that murtala mohamed did his fun kill of innocent men womwn and children. 3 Likes |
Re: Itsekiri Nation Disowns Calls For Creation Of Biafra Republic by awesomet1(m): 9:21am On Oct 28, 2015 |
atbu1983: South South Niger Delta will never join biafra
Igbo are using the support they gave to Jonathan in 2015 election as blackmail to convert Niger delta struggle to biafra. Niger delta struggle is resource control and true federalism. This deception will not work. They only supported Jonathan because they got alot of appointments under Jonathan. They are just selfish and greedy people. Niger Delta Struggle is completely different from biafra agitation. Igbo supported Obasanjo against thier own son and hero Ojukwu in 2003 election, they should go and claim yoruba instead.
As far as I am concern Igbo, Yoruba and Hausa are all benefiting from the current system. After all an Igbo man Gen Agunyi Ironsi created the Unitary System for Nigeria in 1966 that we are complaining against today. Gen Agunyi Ironsi set the foundation for the destruction of regional federalism in Nigeria. if not for his love for total control and domination (The disease of an average Igbo man), Niger delta would have be enjoying 50% resource control today. When Isaac Adaka Boro wanted to form Ijaw Nation Republic in 1966 it was Igbo Head of State Gen Agunyi Ironsi that fought him with a 12 day war.
The Igbo claim to be one of us because some South South states were part of the old Eastern region. First of all, eastern region was created by Nigeria for Nigeria convenience. It was not a decision of the nationalities that made up the old eastern region. Secondly before most people forget, today Edo and Delta state were never at anytime part of eastern region. Edo and Delta states were first part of Western region later became Midwestern region, then change to Bendel state before becoming Edo and Delta state today. Some tribes speak Yoruba in Edo and Delta state. Why is yoruba not claiming Edo and Delta state the way igbo is claiming Rivers and Delta states because some people speak ibo in those states?
Igbo may have succeeded in brainwashing some South South people that they are one of us, it is a big lie. They may have succeeded in brainwashing some of us that only hausa and yoruba is the problem of South South, it is a big lie. They are the same as far as I am concern.
The problem with Igbo is greed, self-entitlement and born to rule, control and exploit mentality. Qatar is smaller than Bayelsa in population and half d size of Bayelsa state by landmass. Bayelsa is four times the size of Singapore. if Qatar and Singapore can be a country, why cant we have an Ijaw nation as a country? Do u think Ijaw people dont want to be like Qatar and enjoy their oil alone like Qatar does? Note: Bayelsa State is d smallest state in the south south by population and second to the last by landmass!!
Below is the size of south south states and south east states. South South is almost 3 times the size of south East. Yet the population of South east is almost 80% of south south population base on 2006 census. But by the time you add igbo who are currently leaving outside south east, you will discover that thier population is more than all the south south put together. More than 90% of the resources (oil, gas, limestones,etc) are in the south south. The whole of South East is landlock with no direct access to the sea or atlantic ocean. but almost all the south south states have direct assess to the sea and atlantic ocean. Some will say they have River Niger. River Niger is not a sea or an ocean for big Ships.
Tell me why South South Nations will want to form a country with south east if they have a choice ? all south east will bring to the table is population and domination? The total oil production from south east is not up to 10% of south south oil production!
If you are the leader of south south nations will you advice them to form a country with south east if they have the option of forming their own country alone? give a sincere answer!!
As far as I am concern, as unbrainwashed south south , there is no difference between the Igbo, Yoruba and Hausa. To me, these are three major tribe struggling and fighting for Supiriority. Whenever any of the three is loosing, he shout marginalization.
During Jonathan govt, the Igbos were gaining and were in control and were happy. The Yoruba were losing and were shouting marginalization. The hausa/fulani were not happy because they were not fully in control. For the North we can slightly understand because in the 16years of democracy (May 1999 to May 2015) the south ruled 13.3years while the North had just 2.7years
The Igbo don't love south south more than the hausa or Yoruba love us. All the three tribe are all struggling for the control of south south oil. None of the three is better than the other as far as we south south are concern.
The only place south south nationalities agree with Igbo is Nigeria should divide . However while south south clamour for succession is base on lack of true fiscal Federalism and resource control, on the other hand, igbo clamour for succession is base on IGBO BORN TO RULE, CONTROL AND EXPLOIT MENTALITY. Igbo make noise and claim d north have born to rule mentality because of Sokoto State former licence plate motto of born to rule which they have change. The People with the true born to rule mentality are d Igbo. it is because they are not having thier way that they are complaining and making all d noise all over Nigeria.
But how and why Nigeria will and should divide, what we want and what they want is as different as d distance of the earth to d moon.
South south want resource control or thier own freedom. we will support Biafra as Igbo only nation while they should support us to form our own nation or nations. But trying to add us as an appendage to Biafra will never happen.
If south south join Biafra, our individual identities will be wiped out in less than 50years. They will convert every south south nationality to Igbo. And they will so much take charge of the oil and resources with reckless abandon without any regard to d minorities.
LET EVERYONE FORMS HIS OWN NATION IF WE CAN'T GET 50% RESOURCE CONTROL. SOUTH SOUTH NATIONS DONT WANT IGBO, YORUBA OR HAUSA IN THIER NATION. WE DONT WANT ANY DOMINANT TRIBE TO CONTROL US IF OR WHEN NIGERIA DIVIDE.
They will argue that there are some igbo in rivers state, delta state and edo state. As far as i am concern Igbo speaking people in south south will join Niger delta republic or confederation. Their are Hausa people in Niger, there are Yoruba people in Benin Republic and Togo. Does that make those yoruba and hausa speaking people in those countries Nigerians?
The south south nationalities can form a confederation with United Arab Emirate template, where seven different nationalities came together to form a confederation with each nationality having some form of autonomy.
if the south east want to join the confederation they can join. We can't leave nigeria and go and form another normal single country were there is a dominant tribe. That will be moving from frying pan to fire.
Just like the United Ararb emirate asked qatar and behrain to join them, but qatar and behrain choose to form thier individual countries.
What Biafra represent is a single country with a powerful centre where a dominant tribe can control. South south dont want that. If we must fight or struggle for succession, we need a new name like "United State of niger delta" or any other name which clearly shows a union rather than a single country.
We need to set the record straight before south south nations make the mistake of south Sudan. It is more than Four years south sudan left sudan to form thier country. Since that time south sudan has been in War while North Sudan enjoy peace. This was because nations in south sudan came together to form a single country without ensuring that thier difference in ethnicity was fully discuss. Some part of south sudan are now feeling marginalized. That is exactly what will happen if Igbo succeed in forcing south south nations into Biafra. That so called Biafra wont have peace. It will be another Somalia!!!!
For peace to rain let Igbo form Biafra from the Five south east state and let the the six states in south south form a confederation or seperate nations. Anything outside this will never work.
I do not hate Igbo people. Many of my friends are Igbo. I only hate thier deceit and greed. what is good for the goose is good for the gander. What we dont want is a dominant tribe simple. If south south join Biafra, that country will be 60% Igbo. How do you think other minorities can compete in that kind of country? Whether we like it or not we both know that Igbo are not diplomatic people by nature. That will lead to complete extinction of other tribe. in less than 50years they will make the whole Biafra Ibo without any consideration.
I dont hate Igbo. But i hate when i know the Biafra they seek is a Biafra with current south south as an appendage to it. Why cant they support our freedom, and we will support thier freedom. Why do igbo make it look like it is wrong for Niger Delta people to seek thier own freedom outside Biafra? In biafra current south south minority will be like conquered people. God forbid that to happen.
a quote from Isaac Adaka Boro Autobiography (wriiten himself). Read Chapter 5 - Campus Politics http://www.adakaboro.org/the12dayrev/chapter-5-campus-politics. This was the campaign statement of his opponent for UNN SUG presidency: "My opponent, Ejiogu, took the floor when I had finished, and what did he say? "Ladies and gentleman, this is a crucial time in Nigeria when we should not allow a vocal minority to rule an obvious majority. These words still ring in my memory because, as my opponent put it, they are crucial not only to me but to my people, the Ijaws. Most of the alien students walked out of the hall and it seemed as if a spell was cast on the atmosphere. The campaigns ended solemnly and the result of the election was again one way. Ejiogu won with his majority. The last minute strategy. A Cameroonian friend of mine, John Ngole, promptly resigned his secretaryship of the Historical Society in protest."
I am very sure that Nigeria will divide faster if Igbo seek Biafra with 5 south east state alone and Niger delta republic seek a country with the 6 South south states alone at the same time. Once the Hausa and Yoruba sees that Igbo are supporting a Niger Delta republic separate from Biafra, they will see it as true struggle. But if the struggle is about Biafra with south south in it, where Igbo will gain south south resources with Yoruba and Hausa loosing out, I bet you until South South oil finishes, Nigeria wont divide.
If we cant get resource control, we don't need to form a single country with Igbo, we can seek for our separate nation on two front simultaneously but not on one front. What we need is cooperation from Igbo not togetherness with Igbo. If they truly want to leave Nigeria and liberate Niger delta people from dominant tribes, they should support us to form our nation as they form thiers. I bet you when that happen, the struggle will be half won.
The Ojukwu Biafra was Igbo dream not Ijaw, Esan, Urhobo, Itsekiri, Ikwerre, ogoni, ibibio, etc dream.
In summary, my point is that why the primary interest of Niger Deltans is resource control, Igbo primary interest is seperation from Nigeria with Niger delta as thier trophy. Igbo wants a nation where they can become the lord, control and dominate others. Since in Nigeria, Hausa and yoruba are ahead of them in the power struggle, they resort to blackmail and cry foul claiming marginalization.
if Nigeria will divide peacefully by United Nations referendum, south south will not join Biafra. Peaceful division of Nigeria can only be into a minimum of five countries (Arewa republic, Niger Middle belt, United Niger Delta, Oduwa republic, and Biafra). South South will form its own nation/nations. The only way south south and south east will form a single country like Biafra is if Nigeria divide by War because population will be important in size of Army.
My Igbo neighbour may not like this submission, but it is the bitter truth
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Re: Itsekiri Nation Disowns Calls For Creation Of Biafra Republic by Nobody: 9:22am On Oct 28, 2015 |
Yanks101: Your country can't produce an ordinary bullet, yet want to see igbos extinct because they want to pursue their fundamental rights to follow their own destiny. Your family will be the first to go extinct. okk since you said so. But remember! This time will be deadly 3 Likes |
Re: Itsekiri Nation Disowns Calls For Creation Of Biafra Republic by cheruv: 9:22am On Oct 28, 2015 |
Observant: The hypocrisy of Niger-Delta is thinking that any igbo group in South-South will join (Bini, Esan, itserkiri, ijaw etc) in one country same as the hypocrisy is Baifra believing that itserkiri, ijaw etc of today will join them in one country
So stop the noise making, Biafra will not include you all neither will your niger- delta (which by the way Abia and IMO is currently part of ) include any igbo Group or igboid. Be it anioma etc. Seriously these so called NDR people are deluded the only place am waiting for them is on the case of the SS Igbo territories 4 Likes |
Re: Itsekiri Nation Disowns Calls For Creation Of Biafra Republic by Kagawa10: 9:23am On Oct 28, 2015 |
kaycid77:
AKOKO EDO man ( Yoruba man) speak for your yoruba related ppl.... I am ANIOMA... my name is Emeka I am not your brother and I hate you ppl.... I am IGBO, now go and DIE Nobody is disputing Asaba as an ibo land though! Next time, talk about your Asaba and let us see road! 3 Likes |
Re: Itsekiri Nation Disowns Calls For Creation Of Biafra Republic by PassingShot(m): 9:23am On Oct 28, 2015 |
ikombe: walai na only you get beta talk about biafra . Others go dey insult dem . Chop knuckle ma nigga ☺ 1 Like |
Re: Itsekiri Nation Disowns Calls For Creation Of Biafra Republic by saintandsinnerz: 9:23am On Oct 28, 2015 |
atbu1983:
I.have said it many times in dis forum. Delta state was never in history part of eastern region or Biafra. Delta state was part of western region in d very beginning b4 it bcome midwest, bendel and delta.
No single territory in delta will be Biafra. Anioma is not part of Eastern region and cannot be Biafra.
Anioma belong to niger Delta and south south and cannot be biafra. They are benin descendant who related with igbo over a long time .
Mr man can you just shut up if you don't know anything about history rather embarrassing yourself here 2 Likes |
Re: Itsekiri Nation Disowns Calls For Creation Of Biafra Republic by orunto27: 9:24am On Oct 28, 2015 |
This is a voice of reason. 6 Likes |
Re: Itsekiri Nation Disowns Calls For Creation Of Biafra Republic by mystical109(m): 9:25am On Oct 28, 2015 |
atbu1983: South South Niger Delta will never join biafra
Igbo are using the support they gave to Jonathan in 2015 election as blackmail to convert Niger delta struggle to biafra. Niger delta struggle is resource control and true federalism. This deception will not work. They only supported Jonathan because they got alot of appointments under Jonathan. They are just selfish and greedy people. Niger Delta Struggle is completely different from biafra agitation. Igbo supported Obasanjo against thier own son and hero Ojukwu in 2003 election, they should go and claim yoruba instead.
As far as I am concern Igbo, Yoruba and Hausa are all benefiting from the current system. After all an Igbo man Gen Agunyi Ironsi created the Unitary System for Nigeria in 1966 that we are complaining against today. Gen Agunyi Ironsi set the foundation for the destruction of regional federalism in Nigeria. if not for his love for total control and domination (The disease of an average Igbo man), Niger delta would have be enjoying 50% resource control today. When Isaac Adaka Boro wanted to form Ijaw Nation Republic in 1966 it was Igbo Head of State Gen Agunyi Ironsi that fought him with a 12 day war.
The Igbo claim to be one of us because some South South states were part of the old Eastern region. First of all, eastern region was created by Nigeria for Nigeria convenience. It was not a decision of the nationalities that made up the old eastern region. Secondly before most people forget, today Edo and Delta state were never at anytime part of eastern region. Edo and Delta states were first part of Western region later became Midwestern region, then change to Bendel state before becoming Edo and Delta state today. Some tribes speak Yoruba in Edo and Delta state. Why is yoruba not claiming Edo and Delta state the way igbo is claiming Rivers and Delta states because some people speak ibo in those states?
Igbo may have succeeded in brainwashing some South South people that they are one of us, it is a big lie. They may have succeeded in brainwashing some of us that only hausa and yoruba is the problem of South South, it is a big lie. They are the same as far as I am concern.
The problem with Igbo is greed, self-entitlement and born to rule, control and exploit mentality. Qatar is smaller than Bayelsa in population and half d size of Bayelsa state by landmass. Bayelsa is four times the size of Singapore. if Qatar and Singapore can be a country, why cant we have an Ijaw nation as a country? Do u think Ijaw people dont want to be like Qatar and enjoy their oil alone like Qatar does? Note: Bayelsa State is d smallest state in the south south by population and second to the last by landmass!!
Below is the size of south south states and south east states. South South is almost 3 times the size of south East. Yet the population of South east is almost 80% of south south population base on 2006 census. But by the time you add igbo who are currently leaving outside south east, you will discover that thier population is more than all the south south put together. More than 90% of the resources (oil, gas, limestones,etc) are in the south south. The whole of South East is landlock with no direct access to the sea or atlantic ocean. but almost all the south south states have direct assess to the sea and atlantic ocean. Some will say they have River Niger. River Niger is not a sea or an ocean for big Ships.
Tell me why South South Nations will want to form a country with south east if they have a choice ? all south east will bring to the table is population and domination? The total oil production from south east is not up to 10% of south south oil production!
If you are the leader of south south nations will you advice them to form a country with south east if they have the option of forming their own country alone? give a sincere answer!!
As far as I am concern, as unbrainwashed south south , there is no difference between the Igbo, Yoruba and Hausa. To me, these are three major tribe struggling and fighting for Supiriority. Whenever any of the three is loosing, he shout marginalization.
During Jonathan govt, the Igbos were gaining and were in control and were happy. The Yoruba were losing and were shouting marginalization. The hausa/fulani were not happy because they were not fully in control. For the North we can slightly understand because in the 16years of democracy (May 1999 to May 2015) the south ruled 13.3years while the North had just 2.7years
The Igbo don't love south south more than the hausa or Yoruba love us. All the three tribe are all struggling for the control of south south oil. None of the three is better than the other as far as we south south are concern.
The only place south south nationalities agree with Igbo is Nigeria should divide . However while south south clamour for succession is base on lack of true fiscal Federalism and resource control, on the other hand, igbo clamour for succession is base on IGBO BORN TO RULE, CONTROL AND EXPLOIT MENTALITY. Igbo make noise and claim d north have born to rule mentality because of Sokoto State former licence plate motto of born to rule which they have change. The People with the true born to rule mentality are d Igbo. it is because they are not having thier way that they are complaining and making all d noise all over Nigeria.
But how and why Nigeria will and should divide, what we want and what they want is as different as d distance of the earth to d moon.
South south want resource control or thier own freedom. we will support Biafra as Igbo only nation while they should support us to form our own nation or nations. But trying to add us as an appendage to Biafra will never happen.
If south south join Biafra, our individual identities will be wiped out in less than 50years. They will convert every south south nationality to Igbo. And they will so much take charge of the oil and resources with reckless abandon without any regard to d minorities.
LET EVERYONE FORMS HIS OWN NATION IF WE CAN'T GET 50% RESOURCE CONTROL. SOUTH SOUTH NATIONS DONT WANT IGBO, YORUBA OR HAUSA IN THIER NATION. WE DONT WANT ANY DOMINANT TRIBE TO CONTROL US IF OR WHEN NIGERIA DIVIDE.
They will argue that there are some igbo in rivers state, delta state and edo state. As far as i am concern Igbo speaking people in south south will join Niger delta republic or confederation. Their are Hausa people in Niger, there are Yoruba people in Benin Republic and Togo. Does that make those yoruba and hausa speaking people in those countries Nigerians?
The south south nationalities can form a confederation with United Arab Emirate template, where seven different nationalities came together to form a confederation with each nationality having some form of autonomy.
if the south east want to join the confederation they can join. We can't leave nigeria and go and form another normal single country were there is a dominant tribe. That will be moving from frying pan to fire.
Just like the United Ararb emirate asked qatar and behrain to join them, but qatar and behrain choose to form thier individual countries.
What Biafra represent is a single country with a powerful centre where a dominant tribe can control. South south dont want that. If we must fight or struggle for succession, we need a new name like "United State of niger delta" or any other name which clearly shows a union rather than a single country.
We need to set the record straight before south south nations make the mistake of south Sudan. It is more than Four years south sudan left sudan to form thier country. Since that time south sudan has been in War while North Sudan enjoy peace. This was because nations in south sudan came together to form a single country without ensuring that thier difference in ethnicity was fully discuss. Some part of south sudan are now feeling marginalized. That is exactly what will happen if Igbo succeed in forcing south south nations into Biafra. That so called Biafra wont have peace. It will be another Somalia!!!!
For peace to rain let Igbo form Biafra from the Five south east state and let the the six states in south south form a confederation or seperate nations. Anything outside this will never work.
I do not hate Igbo people. Many of my friends are Igbo. I only hate thier deceit and greed. what is good for the goose is good for the gander. What we dont want is a dominant tribe simple. If south south join Biafra, that country will be 60% Igbo. How do you think other minorities can compete in that kind of country? Whether we like it or not we both know that Igbo are not diplomatic people by nature. That will lead to complete extinction of other tribe. in less than 50years they will make the whole Biafra Ibo without any consideration.
I dont hate Igbo. But i hate when i know the Biafra they seek is a Biafra with current south south as an appendage to it. Why cant they support our freedom, and we will support thier freedom. Why do igbo make it look like it is wrong for Niger Delta people to seek thier own freedom outside Biafra? In biafra current south south minority will be like conquered people. God forbid that to happen.
a quote from Isaac Adaka Boro Autobiography (wriiten himself). Read Chapter 5 - Campus Politics http://www.adakaboro.org/the12dayrev/chapter-5-campus-politics. This was the campaign statement of his opponent for UNN SUG presidency: "My opponent, Ejiogu, took the floor when I had finished, and what did he say? "Ladies and gentleman, this is a crucial time in Nigeria when we should not allow a vocal minority to rule an obvious majority. These words still ring in my memory because, as my opponent put it, they are crucial not only to me but to my people, the Ijaws. Most of the alien students walked out of the hall and it seemed as if a spell was cast on the atmosphere. The campaigns ended solemnly and the result of the election was again one way. Ejiogu won with his majority. The last minute strategy. A Cameroonian friend of mine, John Ngole, promptly resigned his secretaryship of the Historical Society in protest."
I am very sure that Nigeria will divide faster if Igbo seek Biafra with 5 south east state alone and Niger delta republic seek a country with the 6 South south states alone at the same time. Once the Hausa and Yoruba sees that Igbo are supporting a Niger Delta republic separate from Biafra, they will see it as true struggle. But if the struggle is about Biafra with south south in it, where Igbo will gain south south resources with Yoruba and Hausa loosing out, I bet you until South South oil finishes, Nigeria wont divide.
If we cant get resource control, we don't need to form a single country with Igbo, we can seek for our separate nation on two front simultaneously but not on one front. What we need is cooperation from Igbo not togetherness with Igbo. If they truly want to leave Nigeria and liberate Niger delta people from dominant tribes, they should support us to form our nation as they form thiers. I bet you when that happen, the struggle will be half won.
The Ojukwu Biafra was Igbo dream not Ijaw, Esan, Urhobo, Itsekiri, Ikwerre, ogoni, ibibio, etc dream.
In summary, my point is that why the primary interest of Niger Deltans is resource control, Igbo primary interest is seperation from Nigeria with Niger delta as thier trophy. Igbo wants a nation where they can become the lord, control and dominate others. Since in Nigeria, Hausa and yoruba are ahead of them in the power struggle, they resort to blackmail and cry foul claiming marginalization.
if Nigeria will divide peacefully by United Nations referendum, south south will not join Biafra. Peaceful division of Nigeria can only be into a minimum of five countries (Arewa republic, Niger Middle belt, United Niger Delta, Oduwa republic, and Biafra). South South will form its own nation/nations. The only way south south and south east will form a single country like Biafra is if Nigeria divide by War because population will be important in size of Army
My Igbo neighbour may not like this submission, but it is the bitter truth
. Guy I am Igbo but I won't fail to commend u.u re so on point like decimal 14 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Itsekiri Nation Disowns Calls For Creation Of Biafra Republic by scholes0(m): 9:25am On Oct 28, 2015 |
cheruv:
You're talking like an amateur in politics even if it were me I'd deny too after all why sacrifice your fortune when the show is yet to start If you understand the Chinese technique called "face the east gate and attack the west gate" you'd understand my true position regarding those ijaw LGs and even the whole of ijawland
lool, when the Itsekiris come out to deny Biafra, it is because you have "never involved them", but when The Ijaws, Ibibios, Ogonis etc come out to do the same, It becomes "Oh.... they are only coming out to please their paymasters" Listen, no well thinking Ijaw man will leave their brothers in Ondo, Edo (Ovia SW), Delta (Ogbe Ijo, Burutu, Bomadi, Patani) and Western Bayelsa behind , just so as to form some phantom Banana republic with igbos. 20 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Itsekiri Nation Disowns Calls For Creation Of Biafra Republic by agabusta: 9:25am On Oct 28, 2015 |
PedroJP:
See as u dey contradict urself. A whole community NigerDelta ? What language is common in NigerDelta ? Was the NigerDelta tag chosen by the indigenes ? Stop deceiving urself. Once break awaycomes, nothing will keep Igbo and Yoruba in the same entity. Do u even know the meaning of contradiction? Do u know the meaning of a community? Do u know the meaning of evolution? For your information, communities evolve over time based on certain interests and similarities. The language of the Niger delta seems to be Pidgin English. That is the lingua fraca in that area. This is also kind of evolving to be their language asides the individual indigenous languages. As per your assertions about where the tag Niger delta comes from, kindly refer to my earlier post. And pls do tell, why are u bringing Igbo/Yoruba into this matter?? Did u see anything Igbo/Yoruba on my earlier post? 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Itsekiri Nation Disowns Calls For Creation Of Biafra Republic by wirinet(m): 9:25am On Oct 28, 2015 |
Observant: The hypocrisy of Niger-Delta is thinking that any igbo group in South-South will join (Bini, Esan, itserkiri, ijaw etc) in one country same as the hypocrisy is Baifra believing that itserkiri, ijaw etc of today will join them in one country.
So stop the noise making, Biafra will not include you all neither will your niger- delta (which by the way Abia and IMO is currently part of ) will include any igbo Group or igboid. Be it anioma etc. But Biafra had always included us. They included us in the1967 by invading our lands and they include us in all their current maps of Biafra, even your Biafran " president" kanu includes us when ever he talks. So don't come lying that Biafra does not include us. We are making our stance know now because the Igbos might misunderstand silence to mean acquiescence. 21 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Itsekiri Nation Disowns Calls For Creation Of Biafra Republic by Nobody: 9:26am On Oct 28, 2015 |
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Re: Itsekiri Nation Disowns Calls For Creation Of Biafra Republic by forgiveness: 9:27am On Oct 28, 2015 |
Goodboiyy:
Let me Educate you.
Itsekiri is not Yoruba, How many times I go shout am for this forum ?.
Itsekiri are people if the Niger Deltan , They speak a language almost thesame with Ilaje and Yoruba and share culture with Edo/Urhobo.. Are you sure the Itsekiri's are not Yoruba? Are you sure they don't see themselves as Yoruba? Who is/are Yoruba's? |
Re: Itsekiri Nation Disowns Calls For Creation Of Biafra Republic by Billygee2u: 9:27am On Oct 28, 2015 |
Aufbauh: In other words, I pledge to Nigeria my country (whether you called it a zoo)
To be faithful, loyal and honest (irrespective of political or ethnic divides),
And to defend her unity (I believe in the indivisible Nigeria with true federalism and anyone with a divergent view(s) is an enemy and I'll not hesitate to smoke out his/her life when it matters),
To uphold her honour and glory (honour and glory of the most populous black nation, the largest economy in Africa, the beauty in our diversities, the sweet friendship i have kept with the yorubas, Igbos, Ijaws, Esans, Afemais, Tivs, Jukuns, Chambas, Igalas, Isokos, Ikwerres, Ibibios, Efiks, Kilbas, Michikas, Marigis etc.
So help me God. Amen!
NB : I also want to use this opportunity to convey the message of we the good people of Benue state to the biafra crusaders that no part of our land should be included in their dillusional campaign. Be well guided! 4 Likes |
Re: Itsekiri Nation Disowns Calls For Creation Of Biafra Republic by Chiaka(f): 9:27am On Oct 28, 2015 |
Truly False. Ibos hardly have depended on oil. The richest woman in Nigeria made her money from oil. She is Yoruba and not from the any oil producing states. So are many yorubas benefitting from Niger delta oil........this makes them try to blind the eyes of Niger deltans and try hard to tell them all sort of rubbish that Ibos will suppress them how The world has grown and education is wide spread so stop thinking like a cave man. No one will suppress any. How many Niger delta Oil millionaires do we have?? I am not Ibo , I am from south south before you start thinking that am Igbo like you normally play it. lemolemo: This shows south south leaders are smart in thinking. Joining Biafra they know Igbo will simply invade their land and oil, ask we Yoruba how we cope in Lagos and other south west states, no breathing space. They put pressure on our schools, hospitals, policing and other social services while calling us names . While their governors embezzle their meagre monthly allocation without impunity, their citizens are left to rush to same southwest they call slaves to make a living instead of staying home to build and develop. 2 Likes |
Re: Itsekiri Nation Disowns Calls For Creation Of Biafra Republic by calaway: 9:27am On Oct 28, 2015 |
DIVINE78: I'm waiting for the first person to blame Barcanista for this. who the Bleep is barcanista? he cannot and never be taken seriously not even by his ijaw brothers. that judas, betrayer of the ijaw people!!! barcanis had to be bribed by the pdp(loyalty to the ijaw was bought with money ) to support GEJ an ijaw man. if you want to know what the ijaw youth thinks about biafra ask Tompolo ask dokubo. bar... is an ijaw man for sale. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Itsekiri Nation Disowns Calls For Creation Of Biafra Republic by Yanks101: 9:27am On Oct 28, 2015 |
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Re: Itsekiri Nation Disowns Calls For Creation Of Biafra Republic by lonelydora: 9:28am On Oct 28, 2015 |
Babzrockman: Igbos only wanted to add south south region to their ranks because of the crude oil. Lie. Then tell Asari Dokubo to stop visiting MASSOB in Enugu and Owerri 1 Like |
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Re: Itsekiri Nation Disowns Calls For Creation Of Biafra Republic by putin3: 9:28am On Oct 28, 2015 |
Istkiri or whatever they cal theirselves is not upto anambra west local so they don't ve choice 1 Like |
Re: Itsekiri Nation Disowns Calls For Creation Of Biafra Republic by samflex(m): 9:29am On Oct 28, 2015 |
For those ignorant ipob youths saying kanu is harmless perhaps you should see this video of him soliciting for guns and bullets to fight Nigeria https:///vkJS4q8rAJ 2 Likes |
Re: Itsekiri Nation Disowns Calls For Creation Of Biafra Republic by wink2015(m): 9:29am On Oct 28, 2015 |
atbu1983: South South Niger Delta will never join biafra
Igbo are using the support they gave to Jonathan in 2015 election as blackmail to convert Niger delta struggle to biafra. Niger delta struggle is resource control and true federalism. This deception will not work. They only supported Jonathan because they got alot of appointments under Jonathan. They are just selfish and greedy people. Niger Delta Struggle is completely different from biafra agitation. Igbo supported Obasanjo against thier own son and hero Ojukwu in 2003 election, they should go and claim yoruba instead.
As far as I am concern Igbo, Yoruba and Hausa are all benefiting from the current system. After all an Igbo man Gen Agunyi Ironsi created the Unitary System for Nigeria in 1966 that we are complaining against today. Gen Agunyi Ironsi set the foundation for the destruction of regional federalism in Nigeria. if not for his love for total control and domination (The disease of an average Igbo man), Niger delta would have be enjoying 50% resource control today. When Isaac Adaka Boro wanted to form Ijaw Nation Republic in 1966 it was Igbo Head of State Gen Agunyi Ironsi that fought him with a 12 day war.
The Igbo claim to be one of us because some South South states were part of the old Eastern region. First of all, eastern region was created by Nigeria for Nigeria convenience. It was not a decision of the nationalities that made up the old eastern region. Secondly before most people forget, today Edo and Delta state were never at anytime part of eastern region. Edo and Delta states were first part of Western region later became Midwestern region, then change to Bendel state before becoming Edo and Delta state today. Some tribes speak Yoruba in Edo and Delta state. Why is yoruba not claiming Edo and Delta state the way igbo is claiming Rivers and Delta states because some people speak ibo in those states?
Igbo may have succeeded in brainwashing some South South people that they are one of us, it is a big lie. They may have succeeded in brainwashing some of us that only hausa and yoruba is the problem of South South, it is a big lie. They are the same as far as I am concern.
The problem with Igbo is greed, self-entitlement and born to rule, control and exploit mentality. Qatar is smaller than Bayelsa in population and half d size of Bayelsa state by landmass. Bayelsa is four times the size of Singapore. if Qatar and Singapore can be a country, why cant we have an Ijaw nation as a country? Do u think Ijaw people dont want to be like Qatar and enjoy their oil alone like Qatar does? Note: Bayelsa State is d smallest state in the south south by population and second to the last by landmass!!
Below is the size of south south states and south east states. South South is almost 3 times the size of south East. Yet the population of South east is almost 80% of south south population base on 2006 census. But by the time you add igbo who are currently leaving outside south east, you will discover that thier population is more than all the south south put together. More than 90% of the resources (oil, gas, limestones,etc) are in the south south. The whole of South East is landlock with no direct access to the sea or atlantic ocean. but almost all the south south states have direct assess to the sea and atlantic ocean. Some will say they have River Niger. River Niger is not a sea or an ocean for big Ships.
Tell me why South South Nations will want to form a country with south east if they have a choice ? all south east will bring to the table is population and domination? The total oil production from south east is not up to 10% of south south oil production!
If you are the leader of south south nations will you advice them to form a country with south east if they have the option of forming their own country alone? give a sincere answer!!
As far as I am concern, as unbrainwashed south south , there is no difference between the Igbo, Yoruba and Hausa. To me, these are three major tribe struggling and fighting for Supiriority. Whenever any of the three is loosing, he shout marginalization.
During Jonathan govt, the Igbos were gaining and were in control and were happy. The Yoruba were losing and were shouting marginalization. The hausa/fulani were not happy because they were not fully in control. For the North we can slightly understand because in the 16years of democracy (May 1999 to May 2015) the south ruled 13.3years while the North had just 2.7years
The Igbo don't love south south more than the hausa or Yoruba love us. All the three tribe are all struggling for the control of south south oil. None of the three is better than the other as far as we south south are concern.
The only place south south nationalities agree with Igbo is Nigeria should divide . However while south south clamour for succession is base on lack of true fiscal Federalism and resource control, on the other hand, igbo clamour for succession is base on IGBO BORN TO RULE, CONTROL AND EXPLOIT MENTALITY. Igbo make noise and claim d north have born to rule mentality because of Sokoto State former licence plate motto of born to rule which they have change. The People with the true born to rule mentality are d Igbo. it is because they are not having thier way that they are complaining and making all d noise all over Nigeria.
But how and why Nigeria will and should divide, what we want and what they want is as different as d distance of the earth to d moon.
South south want resource control or thier own freedom. we will support Biafra as Igbo only nation while they should support us to form our own nation or nations. But trying to add us as an appendage to Biafra will never happen.
If south south join Biafra, our individual identities will be wiped out in less than 50years. They will convert every south south nationality to Igbo. And they will so much take charge of the oil and resources with reckless abandon without any regard to d minorities.
LET EVERYONE FORMS HIS OWN NATION IF WE CAN'T GET 50% RESOURCE CONTROL. SOUTH SOUTH NATIONS DONT WANT IGBO, YORUBA OR HAUSA IN THIER NATION. WE DONT WANT ANY DOMINANT TRIBE TO CONTROL US IF OR WHEN NIGERIA DIVIDE.
They will argue that there are some igbo in rivers state, delta state and edo state. As far as i am concern Igbo speaking people in south south will join Niger delta republic or confederation. Their are Hausa people in Niger, there are Yoruba people in Benin Republic and Togo. Does that make those yoruba and hausa speaking people in those countries Nigerians?
The south south nationalities can form a confederation with United Arab Emirate template, where seven different nationalities came together to form a confederation with each nationality having some form of autonomy.
if the south east want to join the confederation they can join. We can't leave nigeria and go and form another normal single country were there is a dominant tribe. That will be moving from frying pan to fire.
Just like the United Ararb emirate asked qatar and behrain to join them, but qatar and behrain choose to form thier individual countries.
What Biafra represent is a single country with a powerful centre where a dominant tribe can control. South south dont want that. If we must fight or struggle for succession, we need a new name like "United State of niger delta" or any other name which clearly shows a union rather than a single country.
We need to set the record straight before south south nations make the mistake of south Sudan. It is more than Four years south sudan left sudan to form thier country. Since that time south sudan has been in War while North Sudan enjoy peace. This was because nations in south sudan came together to form a single country without ensuring that thier difference in ethnicity was fully discuss. Some part of south sudan are now feeling marginalized. That is exactly what will happen if Igbo succeed in forcing south south nations into Biafra. That so called Biafra wont have peace. It will be another Somalia!!!!
For peace to rain let Igbo form Biafra from the Five south east state and let the the six states in south south form a confederation or seperate nations. Anything outside this will never work.
I do not hate Igbo people. Many of my friends are Igbo. I only hate thier deceit and greed. what is good for the goose is good for the gander. What we dont want is a dominant tribe simple. If south south join Biafra, that country will be 60% Igbo. How do you think other minorities can compete in that kind of country? Whether we like it or not we both know that Igbo are not diplomatic people by nature. That will lead to complete extinction of other tribe. in less than 50years they will make the whole Biafra Ibo without any consideration.
I dont hate Igbo. But i hate when i know the Biafra they seek is a Biafra with current south south as an appendage to it. Why cant they support our freedom, and we will support thier freedom. Why do igbo make it look like it is wrong for Niger Delta people to seek thier own freedom outside Biafra? In biafra current south south minority will be like conquered people. God forbid that to happen.
a quote from Isaac Adaka Boro Autobiography (wriiten himself). Read Chapter 5 - Campus Politics http://www.adakaboro.org/the12dayrev/chapter-5-campus-politics. This was the campaign statement of his opponent for UNN SUG presidency: "My opponent, Ejiogu, took the floor when I had finished, and what did he say? "Ladies and gentleman, this is a crucial time in Nigeria when we should not allow a vocal minority to rule an obvious majority. These words still ring in my memory because, as my opponent put it, they are crucial not only to me but to my people, the Ijaws. Most of the alien students walked out of the hall and it seemed as if a spell was cast on the atmosphere. The campaigns ended solemnly and the result of the election was again one way. Ejiogu won with his majority. The last minute strategy. A Cameroonian friend of mine, John Ngole, promptly resigned his secretaryship of the Historical Society in protest."
I am very sure that Nigeria will divide faster if Igbo seek Biafra with 5 south east state alone and Niger delta republic seek a country with the 6 South south states alone at the same time. Once the Hausa and Yoruba sees that Igbo are supporting a Niger Delta republic separate from Biafra, they will see it as true struggle. But if the struggle is about Biafra with south south in it, where Igbo will gain south south resources with Yoruba and Hausa loosing out, I bet you until South South oil finishes, Nigeria wont divide.
If we cant get resource control, we don't need to form a single country with Igbo, we can seek for our separate nation on two front simultaneously but not on one front. What we need is cooperation from Igbo not togetherness with Igbo. If they truly want to leave Nigeria and liberate Niger delta people from dominant tribes, they should support us to form our nation as they form thiers. I bet you when that happen, the struggle will be half won.
The Ojukwu Biafra was Igbo dream not Ijaw, Esan, Urhobo, Itsekiri, Ikwerre, ogoni, ibibio, etc dream.
In summary, my point is that why the primary interest of Niger Deltans is resource control, Igbo primary interest is seperation from Nigeria with Niger delta as thier trophy. Igbo wants a nation where they can become the lord, control and dominate others. Since in Nigeria, Hausa and yoruba are ahead of them in the power struggle, they resort to blackmail and cry foul claiming marginalization.
if Nigeria will divide peacefully by United Nations referendum, south south will not join Biafra. Peaceful division of Nigeria can only be into a minimum of five countries (Arewa republic, Niger Middle belt, United Niger Delta, Oduwa republic, and Biafra). South South will form its own nation/nations. The only way south south and south east will form a single country like Biafra is if Nigeria divide by War because population will be important in size of Army.
My Igbo neighbour may not like this submission, but it is the bitter truth
Thanks, this is one of the best articles I have read so far. South South region will not join the socalled Biafran republic. South South is better off forming their own republic than to join with Ibos. 12 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Itsekiri Nation Disowns Calls For Creation Of Biafra Republic by Nobody: 9:30am On Oct 28, 2015 |
wirinet:
But Biafra had always included us. They included us in the1967 by invading our lands and they include us in all their current maps of Biafra, even your Biafran " president" kanu includes us when ever he talks. So don't come lying that Biafra does not include us.
We are making our stance know now because the Igbos might misunderstand silence to mean acquiescence. Thank you brother. Are you itsekiri ? The thing they vex me en. Its an insult to us. 14 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Itsekiri Nation Disowns Calls For Creation Of Biafra Republic by scholes0(m): 9:30am On Oct 28, 2015 |
Goodboiyy:
You haven't heard of how Biafra army intimidated us ?.. How they rape our girls ? I remember the story my mom told me, When the Biafra troop arrived warri, they ordered everybody to come out, my mom told me how they shot an Urhobo man that have Mark on his face thinking he his Yoruba..
This is not 1967.. as itsekiri will align with Yoruba Troop to defend our territory from any invasion.
You are warned My God! 4 Likes |
Re: Itsekiri Nation Disowns Calls For Creation Of Biafra Republic by Nobody: 9:32am On Oct 28, 2015 |
putin3: Istkiri or whatever they cal theirselves is not upto anambra west local so they don't ve choice What do you mean we don't have choice ?.. 12 Likes |
Re: Itsekiri Nation Disowns Calls For Creation Of Biafra Republic by tsdarkside(m): 9:32am On Oct 28, 2015 |
oyem4u: WARRI—THE Itsekiri ethnic nationality of Warri, Delta State, has dissociated itself from the calls for creation of a Biafra Republic out of Nigeria as being drummed by some Igbo interest groups in the South-East.
The Itsekiri Leaders of Thought, ILT, expressed the group’s concern over the Igbo agitation yesterday in a statement by its Chairman, Pa Johnson Ayomike and Secretary, Edward Ekpoko.
The body is disturbed that the proposed Biafra Republic as widely reported in the social media includes the whole of Delta State.
The statement stressed: “We recall with pains the day the defunct Biafran Army invaded Warri and Benin in the then Midwest Region on August 9, 1967.
Never again will the Itsekiri tolerate such invasion. The Itsekiri nation is committed to the unity of Nigeria and will do all it can to promote and protect it as one indivisible country.
As Major General Philip Effiong said on January 14 1970, the Republic of Biafra ceased to exist. We, the Itsekiri, wish it to be eternally so for the peace and development of our great nation.”
source - http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/10/itsekiri-nation-disowns-calls-for-creation-of-biafra-republic/ hear,hear,,,,,biafraudsters will tell you all types of lies....but history always stands as testimony...the truth always comes out one day.... 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Itsekiri Nation Disowns Calls For Creation Of Biafra Republic by Slimvincent(m): 9:32am On Oct 28, 2015 |
PassingShot: Let Igbos fight for their secession without dragging other tribes into it. And if they go about it in a civilized manner, they might actually find sympathy and support from some other nationalities.
The current campaign of hate and violence against Nigeria WILL NEVER achieve Biafra for them. It has never worked and it will not work in Nigeria.
Think of Chechnya in Russia, Syrian civil war, Rwanda, and many other violent attempt at secession and tell me which one has been successful.
War no be beans. Make IPOD borrow themselves brain. IPOB, and nt IPOD.. Guess u looking for cheap likes |
Re: Itsekiri Nation Disowns Calls For Creation Of Biafra Republic by Nobody: 9:33am On Oct 28, 2015 |
HYPOCRISY is when YORUBA people claim some part of Kwara, Kogi, Lagos as Yoruba land when Igbos claim the Igbo speaking areas of some part of Delta, Rivers and Edo as part of Igbo land, YORUBA'S will start shouting land grabbing, oil thief, is this not hypocrisy at highest level, if Igbo go with only 5 Igbo state and leave the rest of the Igbo land, then Yoruba should leave Lagos, Kwara, Kogi and parts of Ondo ilaje axis alone. 7 Likes |
Re: Itsekiri Nation Disowns Calls For Creation Of Biafra Republic by saintandsinnerz: 9:33am On Oct 28, 2015 |
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