ekt_bear:

Let's be real.

The reason why people are downplaying his accomplishments are:
A) He is in the ACN
B) He is Yoruba


Bluntly speaking, that is the reason why this happening, right? Let's be real with ourselves.

Those who don't care about either of these factors (e.g., the US ambassador I mentioned) will be honest. Or the analysis from the Economist. Or the credit agencies that are trying to assess a state's ability to repay a loan. They don't give a crap about ACN, Yoruba, etc. All they care about is performance.

ekt_bear:

I've lived in California for almost 5 years now. Arnold didn't do a good job here. Constant budget crises, bankruptcy, issuing i.o.u.s, an inability to control different political factions and build (political) bridges.

Now granted, I'm not an expert on local politics. But those I know who've lived here all their lives and are politically knowledgeable also say the same thing.

Fashola > Arnold probably isn't controversial at all. . . Arnold simply didn't do well

manny4life:

No one is disputing the fact that he is the best; the content of the matter is that he is over-hyped as it is. Come to think of it, you answered it in your own post, but hey if he's over-hyped, well I guess he deserves the hype from people who haven't seen it let alone feel it. For instance someone like me though I give him due credit but I sure ain't hyped like Eko-Ile because I guess we have different experiences. It takes a lot to hype me because at least I've seen it all or some of it.

ekt_bear:

@manny4life: Texas didn't suffer like California did. Texas didn't ruin its credit rating like California did. Texas is not drowning in a sea of debt.

I don't understand how you are justifying the performance of a man who has left his state a mess. A guy who has had such great difficulty passing budgets. A guy who left office with approval ratings in the low 20s (FYI, low 20s is very bad.) Granted, some of it might not be his fault.

But he simply did not do well as governor.

Now granted, in some hypothetical situation where Fashola had been governor, maybe he'd have flopped too. Perhaps much of this is out of a guy's hands.

But to pretend as if based upon track records, Arnold is a better administrator than Fash? Simply ludicrous

EDIT: lol, good luck on the mega millions.

Eko Ile:


Call it hype or what ever makes you snore well at night. What many of you call hype is basically state pride to me. I like what my state and my governor is doing. It's not my fault that many have no pride in themselves and their states, they obviously have nothing to be proud of because their state/leaders are not doing anything to be proud of.


I'm proud of my state and if I see Fashola commissioning even a common overhead pedestrian bridge, I'll take a picture and clap joyously.

Rome wasn't built in a day, they started from somewhere.

You people see me post pictures and talk about something new or just commissioned project by Fashola everyday, but you are yet to challenge me by doing the same with any order governor in Nigeria, not even the federal government, obviously, it's not hype, it's reality because it happens everyday and like I said, it's unchallenged by any other government in Nigeria.


There's just too much bad bele and tribalism clouding people's judgment and sense of fairness.

manny4life:

Texas, Florida, Virginia and a few republican states were of the 7/10 states that did not get hit badly; Texas isn't economically stronghold like NY, Chicago, CA, et al.

While it's just a huge state, their economic output is nothing compared to CA or other cities. Look I'm not justifying anything but merely telling you the truth; yes his ratings were low, obviously some of his actions were his own but as far as the ones you listed, those had nothing to do with him. The man tried all he could do like for instance if people are not exporting, where are the revenues? If people are not working because the demand of a product is low, how do u expect to get a tax revenue when you're paying unemployment compensation? The CA economy really was dependent on consumers around the U.S. and not just Californians.

I have told you, passing budgets is certainly not his fault, blame the ego driven lawmakers. Now if his office did not prepare the budget on time for the house to sit and deliberate on it, that's different, but when you have prideful lawmakers who would rather allow their egos, budgets at least to a wide extent were not his fault.

Arnold was trying; there were so much on his plate, from massive deficits, to political issues to criminal issues like the penal criminal system to social issue like gay marriage to environmental system with the EPA, to the health care system even constitutional problems. Arnold had so much on his plate than ANY other sitting governor within his term. It takes grace to handle it all. Again I'm not justifying his low ratings, but there are so much one person can handle. Like seriously look at most of the strong cases heard in the Federal court to the U.S. Court of Appeals, most of them are from 9th Circuit, most of which stemmed from Arnold term.

ObamaUS:

comparing the huge revenues arising from taxes and the FG allocations.FASHOLA has done nothing extra-ordinary.He's got a great PR and that's working for him.
It's when he leaves office that pple will know he's not done much compared to what he gets, Most of the money goes into TINUBU's pockets

manny4life:


Hey nothing wrong with you having pride in your state; feel free to do so at your pleasure. At least you said you have pride in your Governor, no one is in doubt of his success, again in IMO, if he's really worth the hype, then hey by all means, give him the praise ain't nothing wrong with it. I'm just saying that the man has done a great job but there's an over-hype to it. This has nothing to do with other governors, you're not looking at other governors when hyping, but looking at his success therefore other governors are irrelevant to this issue.

Eko Ile:

Are you looking at other governors as you make your over hype comments?

And what do you mean by over hype?

Do you mean he's not doing what we are attributing to him?

Your over hype label is pretty much useless and irrelevant simply because the man's accomplishments in less that 4 years is out there in brick and mortar.  

Is the Time magazine over hyping him too?

Is the huffington post over hyping him too

Is the economist of London over hyping him too

Is President Clinton over hyping him too

Is the UN-Habitat over hyping him too

Was the Martin Luther King Leadership Award just a hype

It's darn easy to keep going on and on, the over hype lingo exist only in your head and unfortunately for you, realities on the ground, Lagos electorates, local and foreign media, local and foreign institutions and world leaders all disagree with your silly over hype rubbish.

This is how we kill ourselves with bad bele, some of us will go to our graves instead of admitting the obvious and what the rest of the world proclaimed and labeled the truth.


The joke is on you,

ekt_bear:

Better to go into Tinubu's pockets than PDP slush fund pockets. Heh.

$2 billion in revenue for 18 million people isn't that much. Compare this to Rivers State and Akwa Ibom which get comparable money, but have to deal with 1/3 or 1/4 of the population. . .

Probably if we look deeply into things, we'll find that there is a lot being plundered from both Rivers and Akwa Ibom.

Eko Ile:


Olodo can't read and comprehend, Is ibori the governor of rivers state?

Even sef, the only ibori picture doing anything are the pictures of him in jail, pictures of the rolls and mansions he bought with the money he looted from his own people.

We're talking about better people and this clown is talking about criminals and international fugitives.


You have Bleep'ed up values.


Now, if any of you hating clowns have pics, post or STFU.

You amaze me by your penchant to throw abuses when views are contrary to what your mundane ego stands for . .you seriously need to shed your false toga of intelligence cos it stinks a lot . . . Like i told you the other day, try and learn not to engage in fist fights . .are you that naive,uncultured and immature . . .you are just a plain shame . . to whatever you stand to represent . . .My God . . . Your childish brain retorted to pictures as proof of good governance and all i did was tell you pictures should not be used to gauge the impressive performance of Fashola cos previous corrupt government officials brandished lots of picture as a ruse to deceive the public . .the best you could have done is to calm down and decipher the message . but no, what did you do ? you went on your usual orgassmic rage which i suspect gives you the impression of being assertive but it just makes you look more stvpid, silly and amatuerish . . .O boy, you be big time fvck up . . abi you dey always get nightmare . . . ma guy, make you try rearrange your conducts abeg, and you need some doctrine and serious tutorial on the word debate without rage and abuses  . . .

BTW , What gave you the impression that am hating Fashola  . . . You are simply myopic and painfully slow in thinking

manny4life:

^^^^ No offense but seriously u need to tone it down.

You asked for pictures, and he replied if it was by pictures, ibori won and you're here justifying the picture? Seriously?

Oh well, me think it's really not that serious for u to tell someone they have effed u values because they simply do not agree with you.

ekt_bear:

Texas is the #2 economy in the US, after California.
Those macroeconomic factors, every state had to deal with. He was not able to cut down spending or raise taxes. One of the first things he did when he got into office was to make some tax cut that later on bit him in the backside and made him unable to balance the budget.
It is his job to build consensus. That simply isn't a good enough excuse.
Any way you want to slice it, he did not perform.

Otoh, Fashola performed. And nobody can tell me running a state with 18 million people with only a $2 billion annual budget is a substantially easier job than running California.

Fashola performed well (at a very difficult job), Schwarzenegger did not.

manny4life:

Seriously though? Martin Luther King Award? President Clinton as well? Please I want to see this particularly this Martin Luther king Award, where do I see this as because I want to. As for the Time Magazine, yeah without doubt it's a financial magazine anyway so I'm not surprised

jmaine:


You amaze me by your penchant to throw abuses when views are contrary to what your mundane ego stands for . .you seriously need to shed your false toga of intelligence cos it stinks a lot . . . Like i told you the other day, try and learn not to engage in fist fights . .are you that naive,uncultured and immature . . .you are just a plain shame . . to whatever you stand to represent . . .My God . . . Your childish brain retorted to pictures as proof of good governance and all i did was tell you pictures should not be used to gouge the impressive performance of Fashola cos previous corrupt government officials brandished lots of picture as a ruse to deceive the public . .the best you could have done is to calm down and decipher the message . but no, what did you do ? you went on your usual orgassmic rage which i suspect gives you the impression of being assertive but it just makes you look more stvpid, silly and amatuerish . . .O boy, you be big time fvck up . . abi you dey always get nightmare . . . ma guy, make you rearrange your conducts abeg, you need some doctrine and serious tutorial on the word debate  . . .




The guy is irredeemable, Am even tempted to ask him, if he has a home cos am sensing he needs so much love around him . .  . what a shame

manny4life:

Seriously though? Martin Luther King Award? President Clinton as well? Please I want to see this particularly this Martin Luther king Award, where do I see this as because I want to. As for the Time Magazine, yeah without doubt it's a financial magazine anyway so I'm not surprised

Fashola Bags Martin Luther King Leadership Award

Lagos — It was a day of glory for Lagos State Government and residents, alike penultimate Sunday, January 17, as the state governor, Mr. Babatunde Raji Fashola (SAN) was conferred with an Award of Excellence In Leadership by the Martin Luther King, Jnr Foundation as part of activities marking the 42nd anniversary of the assassination of the civil rights leader in Atlanta, Georgia, United States.

http://allafrica.com/stories/201001280539.html

Fashola Receives Clinton Award For Eko Atlantic City

Lagos — Global recognition came the way of the Eko Atlantic City, the brand new city being developed to combat the effects of climate change through reclamation of nine square kilometers of land lost over the years to the Atlantic, as the Lagos State government and its private sector partners on the Project, South Energyx, got the Clinton Global lnitiave Commitment Certificate.

http://allafrica.com/stories/200909290203.html

Eko Ile:


STFU, I wasn't talking to you or was I debating criminals and convicts, keep all that sad stuff to yourself.

I asked the other poster for pictures, not you and your criminal reference, you suck and your value system suck too.

F'u'c'k off and stop following me around, you are irrelevant and a waste of my internet time. And shove the above rubbish where the sun don't shine.


Please stop quoting and start ignoring my posts on NL.

Eko Ile is now playing the victim  . . interesting   . . abuse all you like . .but you need to always calm down when replying people's post so that you don't allow your rage to get in the way . . . learn to accept contrary views, see the good in them and make your objections in a sane manner . .your approach of always shouting and abusing people[b] ( Eko Ile recommended value system to all nairalanders[/b]) is not a good precedent bruv  . .  and don't feel i picked any special interest in you . . . Am entitled to object to what i feel is not completely correct . . .and you Eko Ile won't be spared when you fall short off the mark . .  . . . You need to curtail your rage factor lest it consumes the other sane side you have . . .  

jmaine:

Eko Ile is now playing the victim  . . interesting   . . abuse all you like . .but you need to always calm down when replying people's post so that you don't allow your rage to get in the way . . . learn to accept contrary views, see the good in them and make your objections in a sane manner . .your approach of always shouting and abusing people is not a good precedent bruv  . .  and don't feel i picked any special interest in you . . . Am entitled to object to what i feel is not completely correct . . .and you Eko Ile won't be spared when you fall short off the mark . .  . . . You need to curtail your rage factor lest it consumes the other sane side you have . . .  

gdini2003:

Here's another way to look at it.

Fashola is not hyped enough and not given enough credit. They should sing his praises in all religious institutions during every holy day of worship.

People on this thread are saying "he is just doing his job" and "Lagos state should be easy to govern"? I find these statements incredibly naive.
Have you stopped to consider the complexity of administering millions on citizens? Nigerian citizens in a third world environment for that matter.
His works are extraordinary and unprecedented. It is just the simple truth.

igbo boy:

eko ile bend down low touch your toe so fashola can give you angle 90, na your boyfriend?  Geez get off the mans d!(K and let him do his job  Fashola this fashola that

babapupa:


You shouldn't be recommending your gayish values and favorite pastime to other people and there is no need to broadcast to the world your sexuality, keep that sh.it to yourself you nasty butt pirate.