He got me with that claim that Awolowo deprived Ijaws of education, on the surface, man that's pretty hard to believe, knowing what Awo stood for; but if you do have any evidence,, then use it to back up an assertion like that as opposed to just believing anything and everything about how your people are hated etc and throwing it out on a forum like this

ALJ HAREM   Awolowo gave every single person free education even arogbo and apoi ijaw. You should go read about Sowere the owner of Sahara Reporter, He is apoi Ijaw from Ondo state and claimed he benefited from Awolowo free education

SHUT UP  you punk, I know Sowore and he is a recent man, he prolly was never born when AWO was  premier  of western region. he was students union leader of uni lag  some 10 years or so ago and the dude  that was injected   by cult boys, He went to school not even JAKANDE ERA   but after Jakande  so how does he  connect with awo FREE EDUCATION time, ? what were the schools  the AROGBO IJAWS  attended ? incase  you do not know  oh Yes you actually do not know  so you do not even know that  PATANI, BURUTU, OGBE IJAW AND GELE GELE were Ijaw towns in the western region under awo  too  . So what were the schools he built for them for the free education ?   You are a confused  maggot  , You have said  you were  some how Ijaw,  an AWORI and now you claim you aint even Yoruba, You are a scumbag

Remark D He got me with that claim that Awolowo deprived Ijaws of education, on the surface, man that's pretty hard to believe, knowing what Awo stood for; but if you do have any evidence,, then use it to back up an assertion like that as opposed to just believing anything and everything about how your people are hated etc and throwing it out on a forum like this

AWO was a hard line TRIBALIST who was only for the interest of Yoruba people. Was it not the same AWO who changed the Itshekiri kings title from OLU Itshekiri to Olu of Warri and moved the stool from Ode Itshekiri to WARRI to create the Itchekiri enclave so as to picture the region a pro Yoruba enclave under the Itshekiri leadership ? How many schools were built by AWO in the Ijaw areas ?? How many roads were even constructed ? Was it not the same AWO that caused all yall being so blinded now about the existence of Ijaw people, land and enclave in the West ? So you now find it difficult to believe that Ijaws exist with their land or you are rather PAINED to know this hence your every day HATRED on Ijaw people, WHAT THE FUK YOU IDIOTS think you are by the way, ??

I never wanted to coment on this issue because I don't know who nairaland is working for by keeping this thread in the political section but you have decided to provoke me by insulting Itsekiri. Evil forest is Ugbo buruku in Itsekiri , why did they not call it Ugboburuku? The other time you said Warri is Ijaw name and now you have changed it to Seikiri.
From Ode Itsekiri-Olu(BIG WARRI) to Ajami mogha where the palace is there is no Ijaw who are slaves to Itsekiri. They are called Eru by Itsekiris while Igbos called them Oru/ohu. Eru =slaves.
Warri city is purely Itsekiri and some few Urhobo settlement, there is no Ijaw in warri city.

@kilafool
If Itsekiris met Ijaw in Warri area, how come there is no single Ijaw word in Itsekiri language. Itsekiri communities existed as independent Yoruba communities for centuries before the arrival of Ginuwa from Benin . Ugborodo for instance is a community founded partly by Yorubas from Ugbo kingdom in Ondo State centuries before Ijaw were brought from Gold coast by white men as servants and porters and the slave mentality is still in them unto this day. Was there any law stopping Ijaws from going to school during the time of Awo? Ask yourself why the Urhobos and Itsekiris intermarry a lot and they refuse to marry Ijaws? It is because they see it as abomination to marry their servant.

KPGEDE  I never wanted to coment on this issue because  I don't know who nairaland is working for by keeping this thread in the political section but you have decided to provoke me by insulting Itsekiri. Evil forest is Ugbo buruku in Itsekiri , why did they not call it Ugboburuku? The other time you said Warri is Ijaw name and now you have changed it to Seikiri.
From Ode Itsekiri-Olu(BIG WARRI) to Ajami mogha where the palace is there is no Ijaw who are slaves to Itsekiri. They are called Eru by Itsekiris while Igbos called them Oru/ohu. Eru =slaves.
Warri city is purely Itsekiri and some few Urhobo settlement, there is no Ijaw in warri city.

I am beginning to think many of these  people  are dumb, I SAID  there were  people  living in the settlement knwon as  Seikiri  BEFORE  ginuwa  The Benin prince arrived, He never went to the forest  to settle, he went to the settlement already  existing and inhabitted  by the Seikiri  Ijaws. It is well written in Itshekiri  history  that he went to the place . He never founded  the town ,  HE WAS A BENIN MAN and  he could have used a BENIN name to call his  founded   town if he did  Found it, in that same settlement  the Igbiras n Ilajes  arrived,  Ijaws  have never been slaves to no one, THIS ACT OF  CALLING IJAWS slaves is the most childish statements  yall make, IJAWS  have been slaves  and yet you  are not saying from where  they brought the IJAWS  to be slaves. If Ijaws were not there  did they bring them from the sky to be slaves ??  You went to their land and they accepted  you with kind  but you turned around to subjugate  them and call them slaves,  IMAGINE    YOUR WORDS,  FROM WHERE  did you bring them  as SLAVES  talking about slaves  To me its the ITSHEKIRIS  that were slaves  because we eastern Ijaws  knew  them as  Timber people  who live on their timber log  floating on the river and creek and thats where they live, Eastern Ijaws of KALABARI, BONNY AND OKRIKA  would buy timber from these ITSHEKIRI  timber  men and we wondered  if they were   humans due to their primitive  life style, This was the Itshekiri  PROPER and believe  me  they still live  on  floating Timber  selling Timber in the creek

killayut:

AWO was a hard line TRIBALIST who was only for the interest of Yoruba people. Was it not the same AWO who changed the Itshekiri kings title from OLU Itshekiri to Olu of Warri and moved the stool from Ode Itshekiri to WARRI to create the Itchekiri enclave so as to picture the region a pro Yoruba enclave under the Itshekiri leadership ? How many schools were built by AWO in the Ijaw areas ?? How many roads were even constructed ? Was it not the same AWO that caused all yall being so blinded now about the existence of Ijaw people, land and enclave in the West ? So you now find it difficult to believe that Ijaws exist with their land or you are rather PAINED to know this hence your every day HATRED on Ijaw people, WHAT THE FUK YOU IDIOTS think you are by the way, ??

You are drunk

very drunk

In fact, I don't want to waste my time on an ideeiotic tribalistic mumu like you that hates both yoruba, itsekiri, igbos, bini and others. MUMU

I would bring out 3 ijaws that benefited from Awolowo's policies

[size=13pt]Mr Bruce and Comrade Evah[/size]

The Ijaw people who were celebrating the 102 posthumous birthday of the former premier of Western Region prayed that, “the Lord should give Goodluck Jonathan , the wisdom of Obafemi Awolowo”.

Also at the occasion, which took place at the National Arts Theatre in Lagos the Ijaw Monitoring Group presented an award to the matriarch of the Awolowo dynasty, Dr Mrs HID Awolowo.

Mr Bruce described Pa Awolowo as “a great Nigerian and a great patriot, whose reign as the Federal Commissioner of Finance was devoid of any external debt.”

He also described the recent endorsement of President Jonathan’s presidential ambition by Yeye HID Awolowo as “the greatest thing that can happen to Jonathan’s candidature, just about four weeks to the elections.“

Comrade Evah commended the sage for his vision, which has become a reference point in the development of Nigeria , “ even when he was not elected as president.

He said further that, the economic and educational vision of Chief Awolowo had sustained Nigeria to its present state and prayed that the Lord should allow that vision to continue in Jonathan.

Evah particularly commended the free education policy that was introduced by the former Premier of Western Region which according to him “helped several thousands of Niger Deltans.”

http://tribune.com.ng/index.php/community-news/18603-ijaw-people-invoke-awos-spirit


that is ONE

here is the second one

[size=13pt]Edwin Madunagu another ijaw man in delta state[/size]

On geopolitical restructuring, Awolowo proposed the division of Nigeria into 18 states, 11 of which were to be based on language and the remaining seven on "mixed" bases. He listed the composition of each state, its population and indigenous language or languages. Of particular interest here is the fact that Awolowo listed Edo and Delta states that were created in 1991, that is 25 years after he made the proposal. But his upper Delta state was exclusively Urhobo. The Igbo speaking areas of the present Delta state he merged the ijaw-speaking areas of the present Delta State with a Delta state which is exclusively Ijaw from both sides of River Niger. Chief Anthony Enahoro has since refined and extended Awolowo's proposals" showing, perhaps, a common origin of their social-political philosophies.



When Awolowo's books were released in early 1970s, they were attacked from the right as well as the left of the political spectrum. The conservatives accused him of advocating a lowering of the quality of education. Their view, in essence, was that anything that is free and is capable of possession by all, must, of necessity, be of low quality. To be of high quality, they claimed, education must be for those who can pay the fees which must continue to rise.



In any case, the opponents of universal free education argued, the proposal was unrealisable even if it was desirable" which they doubted. Awolowo strongly and exhaustively answered these objections both in the trilogy and in his subsequent speeches, writings and manifestoes. From the left came the familiar criticism of social welfarism: that it is a mid-way house which at best serves none of the opposing camps and at worst offers itself for appropriation, distortion, and integration into an anti-people programme. But Awolowo insisted that universal free education was socially desirable, feasible in theory and realisable in practice, in Nigeria. Beyond that, he argued that universal free education was neither capitalist nor socialist: it is a social objective which every country, whatever its system, must pursue, as a priority, if it must develop into an egalitarian and truly democratic society of contended and enlightened citizens. The handing over of schools to their "former owners" is a movement in the opposite direction.

http://www.nigerdeltacongress.com/articles/awolowos_peoples_republic.htm

where is that dumb tribalistic killayut mumu

[size=13pt]Awolowo accused of supporting the ijaws insisted of the remo yoruba people[/size]

Curiously Azikwe accused Awolowo of tribalism for supporting an Ijaw man rather than fellow Remo man. This crisis led to the split and destruction of NYM. Azikwe left the NYM followed by his Ibo supporters. Akinsanya later decided to contest for the vacant stool of the Odemo of Isara and later became the Odemo in 1941. His becoming a traditional ruler presaged Awolowo’s predominance in Remo polities.

http://www.thenationonlineng.net/2011/index.php/columnist/thursday/jide-osuntokun/16327-obafemi-awolowo-and-the-making-of-remo-a-review-2.html


Killayut mumu come back here

[size=13pt]Sabella Abidde both my parents are ijaws and how Awolowo help my family[/size]

[b]Revisionists are everywhere. [/b]For the most part they are attempting to rework history by allowing their prejudices, illiteracy, and preconceived notions to cloud their reasoning. These critics have become masters at injecting willful fallacies, calculated falsehood and historical nonsense into history; and in so doing, have began to cast aspersions on the memory of the great Obafemi Awolowo.

Chief Obafemi Awolowo was a political giant with an extraordinary mind and talent. He was graceful, charismatic and purposeful. Most of all he had vision, and was a nice and decent human being! Yes, Chief Awolowo had his shortcomings. He was not a saint. However, his failings and missteps were far fewer and less injurious than those of his contemporaries. Within the context of Nigerian, and indeed within African politics, Awolowo had no equal. None!

He towered above his contemporaries. Not only that -- all the leaders we’ve had since his exit from government and politics have been political dwarfs. One would be hard-pressed to name a political leader in Nigeria -- since the second-half of the twentieth century -- who did more for his people and for his country than Awolowo.

Awolowo was not a President. He was the Premier of the Western Region of Nigeria from October 1, 1959 until October 1, 1960. Nonetheless, his accomplishments dwarf the combined achievements of the last five heads of government Nigeria has had. And so from now until eternity his contribution to Nigeria’s socioeconomic and political life will be remembered and appreciated by discerning minds. As a federal minister under General Yakubu Gowon, he saved Nigeria from self immolation.

From the time he began his political career until his passing to the heavens -- his two great public missions was to make Nigeria better than the way he met it; and also, to secure Nigeria’s economic, social and political future for the next generation. But he was unable to achieve his presidential dream because he refused to compromise his principles; refused to betray his constituent and his conscience; and also refused to bow to the whims of the Colonialist. In addition, he refused to obey orders given by Dodan Barracks.

For these and other reasons, therefore, he was denied the ultimate political price: the Presidency of the Federal Republic of Nigeria. Because he was denied this political price, Nigeria has remained in the doldrums ever since. In Chief Awolowo, we lost the brightest star we’ve ever had and may have to wait another seventy-year for a man like him to take Nigeria to the Promised Land. Frankly, to say he was a statesman is an understatement. If he was an American or a European, the world would have placed him in the same league as Churchill, Roosevelt, Charles de Gaulle and many others.

We now have a growing school of shortsighted, narrow-minded, and mean-spirited critics who are into Awo-bashing: rewriting history, repeating age-old falsities, spreading lies and innuendoes and casting aspersions on the Great One.

Charles Caleb Colton it was who said that “In life, we shall find many men that are great, and some men that are good, but very few men that are both great and good.” Chief Obafemi Awolowo was such a man. He was good. He was great. He was extraordinary in many ways. And so I remember him today as I have since his passing on May 9, 1987.

Chief Awolowo was born at the right time, and lived his life in the right country. But whether our country was right for him is another question. His impact on the lives of millions of Nigerians is immeasurable. He lived his life for the people. More than two decades after his untimely passing, he remains the yardstick by which greatness is still measured in the most populous and most important country in the Black world.

More than twenty years after his passing, Awolowo lives on. He lives through his friends and family. He lives through his disciples. He lives through the great things he did for Nigeria. He lives through his writings and sermons. He lives through his political accomplishments. He lives through all those who believe in the goodness and kindness of the human spirit; and he lives through all those who genuinely believe in, and invoke his name and ideals.

He truly was a truly great man. Because of his brilliance and strength of character, he was very much misunderstood and envied; and because most couldn’t measure up to his expectation and greatness, they vilified him. If you were not alive when Awolowo lived, or if you were not fortunate to have met him, well, let me tell you this: He was graceful. He was charismatic. He was purposeful. Most of all he had a clear vision of what he wanted for Nigeria and for humanity. Above all else, he was a nice and decent human being! Oh AWOLOWO!!

Within the context of Nigerian, and indeed within African politics, Awolowo had no equal. He towered above his colleagues. To truly appreciate his greatness, all you need do is to take a look at the men and women who now dot, and have dotted our public estate and public space. Do so and you’d be hard-pressed to name a political leader in Nigeria, in the last 50 years, who did more for his people and for his country than Awolowo. In him we lost the brightest star we ever had and may have to wait another seventy years for a man like him

As I think of Awolowo, I wonder what would have become of our country. I think of how far we would have gone in terms of human and economic development. I think of all the possibilities and the dreams and aspirations we had as a nation. I miss him. I miss a good man, I miss a great man. I cannot now remember who it was who said, “Some people come into our lives and quickly go. Some people move our souls to dance. They awaken us to a new understanding with the passing whisper of their wisdom. Some people make the sky more beautiful to gaze upon. They stay in our lives for awhile.” Awolowo was this and much more. He will remain in our lives for eternity.

To further your understanding/appreciation of Chief Obafemi Awolowo please visit:

http://www.nigerianmuse.com/projects/Awoproject/?PHPSESSID=80a333ce9b34574eeaf9416291533225



Thanks for your response. I was not patronizing anybody, at all. �What for? This essay was first published 2-3 years ago. This may not have a direct relevance to your criticism, but you want to know that both of my parents are Ijaw, not Yoruba. I was born and grew up in Lagos and also spent considerable amount of time in Ibadan, Ilorin, Jos, Oshogbo and Port Harcourt. I know what I know and most of what I know about Chief Awolowo was not a �third-hand account.� Both Awo and Dr. Tai Solarin were influential in my life. By the way: You may want to go read what I have written about Ojukwu, Buhari and the Igbo as a people. And oh, I have in-laws from the North and the East. I know what I know and only write about the things I know. Sorry for the digression�Thanks my brother � do have a wonderful week.

Cordially,

Sabella Abidde

so Killayut u are big mumu

Lastly from a biafra website
[size=13pt] By Jaju[/size]

Chief Awolowo had in the platter plate for the people of western region that then icluded edos, urobos[b], ijaws [/b]and the western ibos.By unequaled social programs of Awolowo I mean the free primary education, free medical and health services, increased secondary education facilities throughout the region provision for university training.

Killayut infact go read of Chief (Dr.) Samson Mamamu the leader of western ijaws before u post crap

killayut:


I am beginning to think many of these  people  are dumb, I SAID  there were  people  living in the settlement knwon as  Seikiri  BEFORE  ginuwa  The Benin prince arrived, He never went to the forest  to settle, he went to the settlement already  existing and inhabitted  by the Seikiri  Ijaws. It is well written in Itshekiri  history  that he went to the place . He never founded  the town ,  HE WAS A BENIN MAN and  he could have used a BENIN name to call his  founded   town if he did  Found it, in that same settlement  the Igbiras n Ilajes  arrived,  Ijaws  have never been slaves to no one, THIS ACT OF  CALLING IJAWS slaves is the most childish statements  yall make, IJAWS  have been slaves  and yet you  are not saying from where  they brought the IJAWS  to be slaves. If Ijaws were not there  did they bring them from the sky to be slaves ??  You went to their land and they accepted  you with kind  but you turned around to subjugate  them and call them slaves,  IMAGINE    YOUR WORDS,  FROM WHERE  did you bring them  as SLAVES  talking about slaves  To me its the ITSHEKIRIS  that were slaves  because we eastern Ijaws  knew  them as  Timber people  who live on their timber log  floating on the river and creek and thats where they live, Eastern Ijaws of KALABARI, BONNY AND OKRIKA  would buy timber from these ITSHEKIRI  timber  men and we wondered  if they were   humans due to their primitive  life style, This was the Itshekiri  PROPER and believe  me  they still live  on  floating Timber  selling Timber in the creek

Whether they were slaves or not Na God we create them

It Allah that created both slaves and masters and thank God you exposed yourself not only as a tribalist but also your historians as lairs.

So you Knew Itsekiris to be timber people and yet you people claim to have given then land. How is that possible

I am sure while they were felling the trees, they surely had settlements there or close by, so how did Ijaws now give Itsekiris land ?

Chai, nothing pesin no go hear from this drunk mumu.


Even Sabella Abidde an ijaw man started by saying " there are revisionist everywhere"

You are definitely one of them

[size=13pt]Ijaw Monitoring Congress : We enjoyed free education from Awolowo and the west[/size]

NATIONAL coordinator of the Ijaw Monitoring Congress (INC), Comrade Joseph Evah, yesterday, in Warri, Delta State awarded scholarship to 25 undergraduates of Ijaw ethnic nationalities studying in various universities in the country as well as donated exercise books and writing materials to 20 secondary schools in the Niger-Delta region.

Speaking on the occasion, which saw each of the 25 graduates getting N10, 000 each to support their educational pursuits, Comrade Evah said the gesture was his little contribution as a human rights activist to the educational advancement of the younger generation.

The scholarship under the Tuku Educational Foundation is a yearly event. For this year, the undergraduates got a total of N250, 000 while another N250, 000 was used to purchase the exercise books and writing materials that were distributed to the secondary schools.

Comrade Evah said that this particular scholarship for Ijaw students was different from the one he grants to Niger-Delta students in Lagos, saying that he purchased and provide GCE and JAMB forms free of charge to students of the region resident in Lagos, this year while the cases of those who had problems with payment of their school fees were handled.

He said that one of the accusations against the Niger-Delta people by the Federal Government was that the people were not educated, adding, “even though we know they are lying, some of us have taken it as a challenge to assist our people”.

But he had very harsh words for governors of the South-South region who he accused of not doing enough for their people in the area of education. He was amazed that the governors were not running free education in the six states in spite of the 13 per cent derivation fund they collect monthly.

“Some of the Northern governors are not collecting 13 per cent derivation but they are giving free education to their people. Governor Bola Tinubu is paying school fees for students in Lagos , whether you are from Lagos or not. We enjoyed free education under the government of the late Chief Obafemi Awolowo, why are our children not enjoying it now”, he asked.

The Ijaw leader said it was a shame that South-South governors were not offering free education to the people, arguing that history would not be kind to them except they repent.

http://www.tamansiswa.com/2006/10/20/nigeria-evah-awards-scholarship-to-25-ijaw-undergraduates

Abagworo: I think ancient Bini was an empire which encompassed many of our different tribes.Igbos and Ijaws were obviously in the Benin army.I also believe Ijaws were nomadic in water but did not actually settle or occupy any lands.I believe that the settled Ijaws were mixed Igbos,Efiks,Yorubas or Edos.Most of the Eastern Ijaw settlements were founded by Igbos/Efiks/Ibibios during slavery period as ports for slave shipment and were arranged as city States for trading purposes.They brought that sense of land ownership and settlement to Eastern Ijaw.

In my conclusion Ijaws always lived by the coasts around the central Delta probably before any other ethnic group but saw it as useless occupying land since their major occupation was fishing.Its as good as Fulanis claiming that they once camped pre-historic period in Jos with their cattle before the Beroms and therefore own the land.My advice to Ijaws is that they should mellow down and accept there fate because they never were land dwellers even though they camped briefly to fish.

Why try to pass off your completely unsupported conjectures as reasonable? There was NOTHING like evidence of there being Ijaws in the Benin army in any significant amount if at all and these fables about Ijaw army contingents of Benin invading Lagos don't make sense.

Why conjecture about ancient Benin when you admitted in another thread that your knowledge didn't extend beyond a certain limited area of Nigeria? You once even tried to claim that there was only one traditional cloth making community (in Abia state) in the whole of Nigeria!!!

There was never anything like a significant amount of Ijaw soldiers under the Benin empire and there's nothing to suggest that there were ever full army contingents. What evidence is there anywhere for it? They should be proud of Nembe and proud that nobody ruled over them and stop trying to make such claims.

In fact, there was a letter written circa 1692 by the then Olu of Warri (Don Domingos II) to Father Francesco de Monteleone complaining about the (pirate) activities of the Ijaws. If they were ever under Benin they wouldn't have dared to cause trouble to those that were allied with Benin.

killayut: An empire is not a Nation,  the ruler of a Nation rules over other nation to be form the empire. The citizens  of the nation ruled over could be part of the empire to strengthen  the army for further expansion,  The Beniin empire  was  like that,  Citizens of the conquered surrounding nations  like ISHAN, ANIOMA AND IJAW  were drafted in to the army for further expansion,  That is how an Empire becomes strong. LAGOS, Ishan, Anioma  including  Ogba Egbema in Todays  Rivers  state were part of the  Benin empire. And so Towns   or settlements  like Uromi, Agbor, Asaba, GeleGele, Eko, Omoku, Aboh , OgwachiUku were all non Edo settlements under the Benin empire,  So when they say  ancient  Benin empire sea port  they are not saying ancient Edo  sea port,  Stop being an illiterate,   Alexandria  in Egypt was an ancient Roman  empire sea  port. Nigeria was part of the British empire.  GeleGele is an Ijaw town under  the ancient Benin empire,   LEARN ENGLISH,

This is becoming exasperating. You have basic comprehension problems. Where did I say or even suggest that there were no Esan or Anioma in the Benin Empire?!

I specifically excluded the Ijaws for a reason: there is written evidence showing that Ijaws occupied a different position relative to the Benin empire.


"These Robbers, or Pyrates, live just at the Mouth of the River, and are called the Pyrates of Usa: they are very poor, and live only upon Robbery; they sail hence to all Parts of this River, and seize all that lights in their way, whether Men, Beasts, or Goods; all which they sell to the first that come hither, for Victuals, with which they are not at all provided. . .
The Inhabitants of this River and the neighbouring Country have several Princes; and indeed, each small Nation is govern'd by his own King, though all of them are Vassals of the King of Benin, except those of Awerri, where the Portugueze live, and the Pyrates of Usa, both whom would never submit to his Yoke." - from the letter from David van Nyendael to William Bosman, written 'From on Board the Yacht Johanna Maria'

[note "Usa" is Nyendael's spelling of Uzon (the Edo term for the Ijaws), and "Awerri" is his spelling of Warri]

Last time I checked, Gelegele, although beside a river, was not at the mouth of any river.

The rest of your post shows that you're completely deluded. There is an enormous difference between people of Edo descent that mixed with other groups and whose descendants later became another ethnicity being part of the Benin military at one time and what you were claiming about Ijaws being involved directly.

And stop with all the bogus claiming. There was a Benin port east of Benin city, linked to Benin earthworks made by Edo people, not an Ijaw port tied to the Benin empire.

There is no evidence of Ijaw military involvement in the Benin empire on any significant scale and to mention Ijaw and Benin empire like one would mention Esan and Benin empire is bizarre and not supported by any facts. Esan involvement is known and acknowledged in Benin tradition. Anioma involvement in the empire is known and acknowledged in Benin tradition. Nowhere anywhere in tradition, or written documents are the Ijaws involved with the Benin empire's military in any significant amount.

It is a fact that non-Bini places that were under the Benin empire had appointed overseers of those territories at some point or rulers who paid tribute to Benin, yet you are simultaneously pretending that this unheard of amaokusuwei is the traditional ruler and claiming that Gelegele was an Ijaw town under Benin, which makes no sense because amaokusuwei has no connection to Benin.

Gelegele was NOT an "exterior" territory of the Benin empire inhabited by non-Bini people. Gelegele was not an Ijaw village. It was a Bini village and was explicitly noted as such by British in 1897 who were very aware of the difference between Bini and Ijaw. This is the last time I'll try to get this through your thick skull.

You just keep getting more and more annoying with your lies: Gelegele was an Ijaw settlement, Ijaws conquered Lagos in a Benin empire coastal invasion of Lagos, Ijaws had a port near Benin, etc.  It's nonsense. By the time you're finished, we'll be hearing about how the Ijaws ruled Benin and are the indigenes of Benin. But in fact, that ridiculous claim has actually been made by some Ijaw, so it would be no surprise to hear it again.

The truth is

a) Ijaws weren't significantly involved with the Benin empire's military even if there might have been a few here and there

b) nearby Ijaws were friendly to the British invasion of Benin in 1897

The most annoying part of this discussion is watching Kilayut's blatant neglect of Benin traditions. It's common knowledge that a people's traditions are verified by the complimentary traditions of surrounding communities. Kilayut just keeps making claims, which surrounding communities have no complimentary traditions for.

No complimentary traditions; no verification, which often times equates to fabrication, and that is what we're experiencing here with Kilayut.

They are nothing but problem 2  nija fighting against us in our land

I do not know if the deluded Killayut was around in 60’s Port Harcourt. If the jackass was not around, the simple act to perform would be to ask his or her parent the reason behind Ijo grabbing and fighting over abandon properties belonging to Ndigbo in Port Harcourt.

Considerable large of number of Ijo people never lived in a house built with cement and corrugated iron sheet. They lived on the boats mainly at the waterside. Of course, the main occupation of these people included fishing, wood-pecking, palmwine tapping and producing illicit gin (Akamere or Ogogoro). 

I could not believe my eyes when I read a junk from Killayut how Ijo will cede few oil wells to Huasa in order to fight for them against Ndigbo. If this dude called Killayut is not dumb, he or she must be a nincompoop. It was not long ago that Hausa, Fulani, Kanuri, Tiv and Yoruba were willing to sell entire Ijo people, including their boats to British and USSR, in order to stop Ndigbo. Even Bakassi was ceded to Cameroon. If the faith of Bakassi is not a good lesson to you, I guess you will die a mo.ron.

It is an established fact that no single ethnic group in Nigeria that can able to join Ndigbo in a war path and survive to tell tales of the battle.

  [size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt]NO   INCH  OF IJAW  LAND WILL BE RELEASED  TO ANY gay.    ANY ATTACK ON ANY  IJAW  SETTLEMENT  BY ANY GROUP WOULD BE AVENGED  WITH  FURY ,THE KILLING OF ANY IJAW  ANY WHERE  WOULD BE AVENGED  BY A BOKO HARAM  TYPED  REPRISAL,    IF NO IJAW DOES THAT  KILLAYUT  IS SURE TO DO THAT[/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size].

Physics, you are in for a hard time today but I can see your source of annoyance but no be today.

Take Opobo and Bonny for instance; all documented trading houses (defacto ruling houses) in Bonny were headed by Igbo traders who took over from some other Igbo traders.

Jaja had problems with another trading house led by another Igbo and went off to establish Opobo (originally owned by the Ibibio) and was later joined by other traders and their trading language was Igbo.

Igbo is still the major local language of communication in Opobo and Bonny, but Ijaw people would want us to believe that the Igbo in those areas were their slaves, who somehow managed to impose their language on their masters. The minority Ijaw in those areas have schemed to overhaul Igbo language in those areas but it doesn't work that way. Some Ijaw revisionists have even claimed that Jaja was an ijaw known as Juwo Juwo, but we all know the true position.

Most people in all ethnic groups in Nigeria are fair minded, but the few bad minded ones always seem to be the most vocal and destructive who make others appear to be bad because they hide under a common identity. I can't understand this dragging of coastal land from lagos to Oron. I don't know if it is a strategic or tactical ploy, but I am sure no one will allow a few rough riders dictate to them.

I said b4 to leave matter for Matthias, when jungle set wetin go be, go be.

Tom Briggs aka Killayut, Man stfu. I've read all ur posts and u are not making any sense. Why don't u go and figure out what ur Ijo name is first. Shameless descendants of slaves still walking around with their white names. If u weren't slaves then how did many of u lose your names?

udezue:

Tom Briggs aka Killayut, Man stfu. I've read all your posts and u are not making any sense. Why don't u go and figure out what your Ijo name is first. Shameless descendants of slaves still walking around with their white names. If u weren't slaves then how did many of u lose your names?

Gbam!

To Keep Nigeria One Is A Task That Must Be Done, so that we no go kill ourselves finish. shikena

killayut:

  [size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt]NO   INCH  OF IJAW  LAND WILL BE RELEASED  TO ANY man-lover.    ANY ATTACK ON ANY  IJAW  SETTLEMENT  BY ANY GROUP WOULD BE AVENGED  WITH  FURY ,THE KILLING OF ANY IJAW  ANY WHERE  WOULD BE AVENGED  BY A BOKO HARAM  TYPED  REPRISAL,    IF NO IJAW DOES THAT  KILLAYUT  IS SURE TO DO THAT[/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size].

LOL No one is taking Ijaw land but you can not come here and be calling itsekiris and Igbos slaves

They were NEVER SLAVES TO ANYONE

You call itsekiris timber people and slaves but still you claim to have given them land. How is that possible ?

You also said groups that ijaws but they are not!!!! from ilaje to awori, itsekir etc they are not ijaws

you claim igbos were tribalistic but Balysea state, delta state have been running for more than 20 yrs and I can not say they are better off any other state.

You claim that Yorubas were tribalistic but houses the most homogenous state in Nigeria which Delta could have been if not for ijaws fighting itsekiris, ilajes and urhobos

Lastly You said Awolowo was tribalistic against Ijaws in the west but I brought out links that even Ijaws leaders comfirmed that You are a lair .

Get off the high horse and see strength in Unity not by fighting and claiming you gave land to everyone because YOU NEED TO KNOW IJAWS ARE NOT THE ONLY COASTAL PEOPLE IN NIGERIA. We have at least 10 different ethnic groups that have access to the ocean.

1 Ijaws against Ilajes yoruba in Ondo State

2 Ijaws against Binis in Edo State

3 Ijaws against Itsekiris in Delta State

4 Ijaws against Urhobos (Ogbe Ijo, Gbarigolo, Olota, Okweagbe etc.),all in Delta State

5 Ijaws against Ekwerres-igbos in Rivers State

6 Ijaws against Ogonis in Rivers State

7 Ijaws against Ibibios in Akwa Ibom State

8 Ijaws against Yorubas(Aworis) in Ajegunle; Lagos State

all this fight within a space of 4 years. Nah that is wrong and not meant to be so

Ijaws that I know are the most peaceful people and kind group, When they turned to a war-like groups bits me. You need to see sense in Unity .

Lastly STOP CLAMOURING FOR KILLING OF PEOPLE IN OTHER ETHINIC GROUPS JUST BECAUSE YOU DO NOT LIKE THEM. You are not the creator and you did not chose you ethnic group, neither did they chose theirs.

ndu_chucks:

To Keep Nigeria One Is A Task That Must Be Done, so that we no go kill ourselves finish. shikena

Gbam well supported

killayut:

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  LOL It's amazing the changes that can happen in a single century.

FACE said Physics, you are in for a hard time today but I can see your source of annoyance but no be today.

Take Opobo and Bonny for instance; all documented trading houses (defacto ruling houses) in Bonny were headed by Igbo traders who took over from some other Igbo traders.

Jaja had problems with another trading house led by another Igbo and went off to establish Opobo (originally owned by the Ibibio) and was later joined by other traders and their trading language was Igbo.

Igbo is still the major local language of communication in Opobo and Bonny, but Ijaw people would want us to believe that the Igbo in those areas were their slaves, who somehow managed to impose their language on their masters. The minority Ijaw in those areas have schemed to overhaul Igbo language in those areas but it doesn't work that way. Some Ijaw revisionists have even claimed that Jaja was an ijaw known as Juwo Juwo, but we all know the true position.

Most people in all ethnic groups in Nigeria are fair minded, but the few bad minded ones always seem to be the most vocal and destructive who make others appear to be bad because they hide under a common identity. I can't understand this dragging of coastal land from lagos to Oron. I don't know if it is a strategic or tactical ploy, but I am sure no one will allow a few rough riders dictate to them.

I said b4 to leave matter for Matthias, when jungle set wetin go be, go be.

Some fools like FACE do not deserve to be responded to, SO die in your ignorance while the great IBANIS of Bonny and Opobo enjoy the beauty of their home land, Of course to the jealousy of people like FACE who have been begging God to make him be a part of the IBANI enjoyment, EASTERN IJAW history and people are too much to be toyed with, So your silly digression would hold no water,

[quoteNdu_Chu To Keep Nigeria One Is A Task That Must Be Done, so that we no go kill ourselves finish. shikena][quote][/quote]


LOL, no THERE MUST BE A BIAFRAN republic . abi them no want am again ? There must also be an ODUA repiblic of course without Illorin BECAUSE the OPC punks can not even cough where AREWA is, And like every one has pointed out, THE IJAWS are very much ready to defend their territory from any land grabber and this is a God given right, These are Nigerian youths exposing their tribalism and hate online, Thank God I am Ijaw.

ChinenyeN says LOL It's amazing the changes that can happen in a single century.

Watch out for more changes to come, No one ever knew that an IJAW SLAVE like Jonathan would be president of Nigeria, Just as you or no one KNOWS the Ijaws of Ondo, Edo, Delta will son have their total freedom and th capital of Ijaw land YENEGOA will be heaven for all Ijaw For the Ijaw in future tto come, They will not suffer what we have suffered .

killayut:

Watch out for more changes to come, No one ever knew that an Ijaw like Jonathan would be president of Nigeria, Just as you or no one KNOWS the Ijaws of Ondo, Edo, Delta will son have their total freedom and th capital of Ijaw land YENEGOA will be heaven for all Ijaw For the Ijaw in future tto come, They will not suffer what we have suffered .

You avoided this question:

Also Ogun state is by the coast as well.Why is there no Ijaws there or am I missing something? Ogun state is beside Ondo right before you get to Lagos how the hell did you(Ijaws) manage to skip it? I ask the same question about AKwa Ibom.How did you all skip the Ogonis and Ibibios and end up in Akwa Ibom?


We need to know your answer.

killayut:

Watch out for more changes to come, No one ever knew that an IJAW SLAVE like Jonathan would be president of Nigeria, Just as you or no one KNOWS the Ijaws of Ondo, Edo, Delta will son have their total freedom and th capital of Ijaw land YENEGOA will be heaven for all Ijaw For the Ijaw in future tto come, They will not suffer what we have suffered .

You people haven't even begun to suffer.

killayut:


LOL, no THERE MUST BE A BIAFRAN republic . abi them no want am again ? There must also be an ODUA repiblic of course without Illorin BECAUSE the OPC punks can not even cough where AREWA is, And like every one has pointed out, THE IJAWS are very much ready to defend their territory from any land grabber and this is a God given right, These are Nigerian youths exposing their tribalism and hate online, Thank God I am Ijaw.

Need to clear up ur ignorance

1. Illorin is a town in Kwara thus just a few square kilometers which is ok. I mean there have been intermixing with the fulani and yorubas. You do not see them killing and land grabing, do u ?

2. Defend what territory I am very very very confused at this territory thing u are bring up. Do you mean 2 local government in Ondo state of the apoi and arogbo of which so Apoi would kill you if u call them Ijaw

3. No one exposed tribalism and hate here, It was YOU KILLAYUT that is full of hate for other groups. You were talking about igbo and itsekiri slaves. You were talking of selling oil blocks to the north to kill igbo people, You were talking about how tribalistic Igbos and Yorubas were of which YOUR LEADERS confirmed otherwise.

Yet you call yourself a good Christian tom briggs

Chyz*:

You avoided this question:

Also Ogun state is by the coast as well.Why is there no Ijaws there or am I missing something? Ogun state is beside Ondo right before you get to Lagos how the hell did you(Ijaws) manage to skip it? I ask the same question about AKwa Ibom.How did you all skip the Ogonis and Ibibios and end up in Akwa Ibom?


We need to know your answer.

very good question chyz

the Ogonis fought against the ijaws in river state and in fact they claim not to be Niger-delta people again

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2009/06/ogonis-are-not-niger-deltans-and-we-want-our-own-state-out-of-rivers-state-%E2%80%94-mosop/

what kind of life is that

ChinenyeN:

You people haven't even begun to suffer.

Thank you.

alj_harem:

very good question chyz

the Ogonis fought against the ijaws in river state and in fact they claim not to be Niger-delta people again

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2009/06/ogonis-are-not-niger-deltans-and-we-want-our-own-state-out-of-rivers-state-%E2%80%94-mosop/

what kind of life is that

The guy is a funny chap. Now that the vandalization of the oil pipes, which was done by his own people, has caused massive oil spill pollution and rendered a vast amount of their land unliveable, not to talk of water pollution, they now "remember" that they have land elsewhere that they "lended" to the Igbo, Yoruba, Bini, Ibibios, Itsekiris, Brits, Germans, Arabs, and Martians LOl.

@ Killafool
If you get to Itsekiri communities, you will know that Ijaws are suffering. How many Ijaw community can you compare to Warri. Can you compare Yenagoa that has no drinkable water to Warri?

I want to prove that Killayut is a fool here.
Killayut, Where is Gelegele?
What is the distance between Gelegele and Ughoton(a pure Beni settlement)?
After Gelegele, what is the name of the next village allong the creek and who are the inhabitants?
What is the distance betweeen Gelegele and Ekewan
What is the name of the river that passes through Ekewan down to Gelegele to Ofunama to Ogheye?

GEJ was dilivered by all of us, Ijaw gave him less than 500,000 votes, if you use GEJ as a yard stick to measure your sucess then you  are a looser. Ijaws are suffering more in GEJ government than any other government.
If you can answer the above question correctly then I will know that you know the road to Gelegele but I am sure that you dont know Gelegele.

No one ever knew that an Ijaw like Jonathan

can you explain what this means- just curious.