vescucci:

True. But imagine this. Would you say that atheism would seize to exist if there were no religionists? This is not a leading question. I just wonder about it myself. Say you find yourself in a planet of androids who can't even comprehend anything beyond what can be seen or the effect felt. Would atheism become redundant?

FXKing2012: Why do atheists always seek for proof in order for them to believe? Dont they know not everything can and must be proven? There are experiences that happen to you and u are sure of it but u really cant explain it in words and cant even prove it to anyone. Can any atheist claim he has never had a personal experience which blew him/her away yet he has no way of proving it to someone else.

thehomer:

Atheists ask for evidence because it is better to believe based on evidence than without or against the available evidence.

noetic16:

1.What is the scientific explanation for humans having dreams about future events in graphic details such that the components of the dream had not been encountered by the human, up until the time of the dream and its subsequent manifestation in reality? Hiding your ignorance behind science is quite dumb. One phenomenal fact that we are incapable of assimilating is the ability of dreams to come to reality, on its own it serves as no evidence for anything, but it buttresses the notion that there is a place or realm that is beyond the present limitations of our material world. This realm is a very strong evidence for the existence of God. Hence, I agree with the OP that the essence of dreams attaining reality is a valid argument or evidence for the existence of God.

2. Do you any scientific explanation for Deja vu feelings? To add to the OP, perhaps you should relate the context of deja vu to destiny. Destiny presupposes human limitations in many facets of life including where, how and when we are born and also many other events that happen to us in life. Thus IMO, deja vu is a spiritual phenomenum that correlates with a spiritual realm, hence, a valid submission for the existence of God.

3. Honestly, religious aside, how can you not be fascinated with the universe and the beauty of our existence? What are the chances that humans who have only lived a few decades would have answers to potent question with regards to the origins of the universe? Why do you think that this piece of intelligence could not have been the product of a super-intelligent being?

4. I agree with the OP's argument here, you have not said anything worth pondering over that counters this argument.

5. Have you got any explanation for the origin of life?

thehomer:

Atheists ask for evidence because it is better to believe based on evidence than without or against the available evidence.

FXKing2012:

But these atheists never give u any evidence of whatever it is they believe, so shld they keep demanding evidence?

FXKing2012:

But these atheists never give u any evidence of whatever it is they believe, so shld they keep demanding evidence?

Delafruita:
there's plenty of evidence to confirm that christianity is a man-made religion with no divinity attached to it.whats more,its the bible itself that provides these evidence

davidylan:

Really? There is just no point debating this clear fallacy. The evidence is clear that majority of the atheists here have no clue what "evidence" they claim to defend.

FXKing2012:

But these atheists never give u any evidence of whatever it is they believe, so shld they keep demanding evidence?

ghostofsparta:
Well...
I believe theHomer and areaBoy have done that, which started when you fell into my trap here: https://www.nairaland.com/986687/how-murdered-5-argument-killed#11401149

As for evidence of the Big B*ng theory, check here:
https://www.nairaland.com/989023/evidence-bing-b4ng-theory#11417191

I didn't state I'm going to give evidence of the Big B4ng Theory nor Evolution, I was the first to demand that you show me evidence of an Angel/Jeovah/Allah/ and I'll give you evidence of any of the pagan deities I listed above....I'm still waiting o.

thehomer:

Come now this is plainly false as there are links right on this thread demonstrating otherwise. Just follow the links in this quote to see the error of your statement.

FXKing2012:

I've taken time to go thru the links u posted and they are threads started by ghostofspata, and [b]they tell us absolutely nothing about the evidence u so claim. All what he listed a regards the big ba.ng theory do not give us any proof of the theory. And his attempt to debunk my 5 arguments that killed atheism was a total flop and even a disservice to atheism.[/b]

FXKing2012:

I've taken time to go thru the links u posted and they are threads started by ghostofspata, and they tell us absolutely nothing about the evidence u so claim. All what he listed a regards the big ba.ng theory do not give us any proof of the theory. And his attempt to debunk my 5 arguments that killed atheism was a total flop and even a disservice to atheism.

davidylan:

Either he is blind, deliberately being dishonest or both... thehomer is an exercise in obfuscation and cheap pettifogging.

FXKing2012: It's good to see all these atheists go dumb as a result of their [b]inability to debunk my 5 arguments, I only hope they act smart and turn away fom their dark path to nowhere hell. Jesus loves you![/b]

Area_boy:

Are you serious?? you have just refused to read through them. Even if all of them aren't "conclusive" enough for you, you have to admit more than half of your "5 arguments" r based on flawed ideas. Which makes it pointless to even answer.

It is important to note that a huge percentage of us were not born atheists. but I can bet, near 100% of you lot were born religious. Talk about being closed minded

FXKing2012:

Jesus loves you and gave His life for u. Think about that!

Area_boy:

LoL. don't bother. I prolly was more evangelical than you in my days. My search and questioning opened up a whole new field of reason. Now I saved myself from the delusion that is god (Abraham's one to be precise).

At one point, I held on to Christianity for the moral values we can learn from the bible. This fell apart when I read the bible from top to bottom. Morality is not a product of religion (this can be argued in so many different ways) I must confess though, the only inspiring part of the bible in my opinion is the Sermon Jesus gave on the mount.

However, we can equate it to the golden rule. So that throws the whole point of the religion out of the window. I'm an agnostic and will only come back to religion when I see concrete evidence. In absence of that I'm sure I'll keep an open mind to everything else

I'm sure Jesus would love me and you. But that doesn't prove he is god

Area_boy:

LoL. don't bother. I prolly was more evangelical than you in my days. My search and questioning opened up a whole new field of reason. Now I saved myself from the delusion that is god (Abraham's one to be precise).

At one point, I held on to Christianity for the moral values we can learn from the bible. This fell apart when I read the bible from top to bottom. Morality is not a product of religion (this can be argued in so many different ways) I must confess though, the only inspiring part of the bible in my opinion is the Sermon Jesus gave on the mount.

However, we can equate it to the golden rule. So that throws the whole point of the religion out of the window. I'm an agnostic and will only come back to religion when I see concrete evidence. In absence of that I'm sure I'll keep an open mind to everything else

I'm sure Jesus would love me and you. But that doesn't prove he is god

FXKing2012:

I've taken time to go thru the links u posted and they are threads started by ghostofspata, and they tell us absolutely nothing about the evidence u so claim. All what he listed a regards the big ba.ng theory do not give us any proof of the theory. And his attempt to debunk my 5 arguments that killed atheism was a total flop and even a disservice to atheism.

davidylan:

Either he is blind, deliberately being dishonest or both... thehomer is an exercise in obfuscation and cheap pettifogging.

FXKing2012:

Eh-yah, what a lost soul. May u be found I pray.

thehomer:

Woah davidylan. Why do you continue with such lies and insults? I've asked you twice recently to show me where you asked for evidence and I didn't provide it. You chose to run away those two times yet you have the guts to come here and tell such lies? I thought you were changing for the better. Or has the delirium worn off?

Area_boy:

obviously you have nothing better to say.

I guess its ok though. I'm not here to convert anyone. Just that there are only a handful of religionists who can put up a strong argument (a strong philosophical one) why they believe.

davidylan:

Na, i chose to get a life... my existence does not consist of responding to illogicality, lies and half-truths.

... and no i have not "lied" as you falsely claim... myself, debosky and FXking2012 have the same opinion of you when it comes to your penchant for avoiding serious questions. Please try again.

and no i have not insulted you, called you names or demeaned you... its a shame you now resort to cheap slander and blackmail. I have only called out your actions for what they are.

davidylan:

and where is your strong argument for why you dont believe?

Area_boy:

you obviously miss my point with that statement. My claim is that there only exists a deeper philosophical reason why someone will believe in a god or not. Since all other evidence (or lack of it) has been turned upside down.

Area_boy:
I'm sure we have had a conversation along those lines before. I'm weary to engage you again mate. We'll just go round in circles with no conclusion. I have a life u know?

thehomer:

Hold on for a moment. What do you think evidence for the big bang would look like?