marcus1234:

wow 60,000 $ after marriage?? whatt the,

NATO is using AMERICAN made Apache helicopters to kill innocent civilians who are celebrating the rout of the rebel gangs from their city, the crimes are multiple. First by US law no military weapons of any kind can be used by anyone in aggressive acts, so here is US hardware killing unarmed innocent civilians. Second, NATO was NEVER authorized to fire upon unarmed civilians. Third, the UN was never authorized to fire upon unarmed innocent civilians, so violation of both the UN and NATO charters have occurred. Also, when massive numbers of civilian deaths are involved then violation of International laws have been committed but worse than that is the violation of human rights that have occurred.

We have asked these people what they would do if Ghadafi was killed? They state that any chance there might have been in the past for reconciliation with these rebels has completely disappeared.  At one time it may have been NATO against Ghadafi but now it is NATO against the civilians. [b][/b]All the Libyans we meet tell us that they are now fighting for their country and their culture. [/b]When NATO blows up a power plant, it does not hurt Ghadafi, it hurts the people, when NATO blockades fuel and food and medicine, it does not hurt Ghadafi, it hurts the people, when NATO bombs the civilian neighbor hoods, it does not hurt Ghadafi, it hurts the people, and the list goes on.
http://www.rense.com/general94/natosl.htm

If the wall ( Libya) has no opening the lizard (Nato) cannot get in,

A great leader understands the dynamics of continuation , Libya is not a family ,, it is a nation and Ghaddaffi should have used the democratic method of leadership so there was a free and fair election.


People must vote for their leaders, no point going to sit on the top of a tree where you can see the mountain top only to start feeling like you are on the mountain becos once the tree falls you are back to square one and will have to climb the mountain to see its top.

At least Nigeria is sorting itself out daily, and climbing our mountain small by small, our elections are getting better every time and we are not being run by a single family.

horny4u:

If the wall ( Libya) has no opening  the lizard (Nato) cannot get in,

A great leader understands the dynamics of continuation , Libya is not a family ,, it is a nation and Ghaddaffi should have used the democratic method of leadership so there was a free and fair election.


People must vote for their leaders, no point going to sit on the top of a tree where you can see the mountain top only to start feeling like you are on the mountain becos once the tree falls you are back to square one and will have to climb the mountain to see its top.

At least Nigeria is sorting itself out daily, and climbing our mountain small by small, our elections are getting better every time and we are not being run by a single family.

playmode:

I have been studying Libya since this uprising started and i can't shake off the feeling that Libyans may have been ungrateful to Gaddafi.  Libya was country that for the past 41 years prospered and was never in debt.  However in the last 6 months Libya has become a debtor not to mention the number of infrastructure destroyed by NATO bombs.  If care is not take the new Government of Libya will have to borrow from the west to repair their infrastructure.

If you look at some of the good things Gaddafi as done as indicated below you will agree with me that Nigerians would have appreciated a leader like this.  Don't get me wrong, Gaddafi has got his faults but he was a leader that provided the basics for his people.

Here are the GOOD and BAD of Gaddafi's rule.

The GOOD

Where are the fools comparing Gaddafi with the fools that  are ruling nigeria. Libya pple will suffer till the last day. They have lost their financial freedom. I hope the criminals that called themselve NTC will be topple soon by the bastard jihadist. This is just the beginning. Its a long film no one can predict the END

1. The government of Muammar brought the Libyan government from poverty and debt, to prosperity and debt-free status in 41 years

2. Education from grade school through to college is free in Libya.

3. Healthcare is free and Libyan pharmacies and hospitals are comparable to high-quality European facilities.

4. Libya ranks No. 53 on the United Nations Index of Human Development.

5. Libya has the highest standard of living in Africa (even better than South Africa,Mauritius and Seychelles).

6. Libya gives free land and seeds to anyone who wants to farm that land.

7. There is virtually no homelessness in Libya as everyone is given a home.

8. Women in Libya have equal rights, not only as a philosophy, but in practice.

9. Under Gaddafi’s oil-revenue-sharing program, each Libyan gets $500 (Dollars) deposited into his or her bank account each month.

10. On marriage, each couple is gifted $60,000 to do with as they please

I could list a few more but my point is that here in Nigeria we are yet to really enjoy any if not all of the the above.

The bad:

Lack of democracy, opposition movements have always been dealt with harshly

The state was virtually family owned

Military involvement and meddling in other North African countries as well as support for despots like Charles Taylor.

My opinion is that the whole debacle over the West meddling in Libya has nothing to do with oil but more to do with control in the middle east as well as causing chaos in those countries that always had major issues with Israel.

Read between the lines people. I do not condone dictators don't get me wrong but it appears the West chooses which dictators to support ( Dubai has no democracy what so ever, they do not have elections), depending on who is willing to bend over.

Please let us read your views on this matter.

macroworld:

All your arguments are well founded and balanced. My only concern is why are the Citizens who have benefited from such State Support not supporting the government at this time. I am personally not sure what is happening here, because if Nigerians have such a leader. government and system that uses integral proportion of the revenue from its natural resources to support its People Like the Libyan example highlighted above. I am 100% certain that Nigerians will rally round such a leader, no matter what the propaganda or externalities are.  I am aware there will be argument about length of leadership, Leadership style ( harsh) and so on.

Where are the fools that are comparing Gaddafi with the foolish nigeria leaders. The libya pple have lost their country,wealth and oil to small group of criminals and their western masters.The jihadist will take over soon and sharia law will be the national constitution according to the NTC statements in DOHA. Its a long film and no one can predict the END

MIrhABi:

@ oga playmode

forget about the 60k dollars and the 500 dollars he gives them for whatever reason,these people are fighting for freedom.Freedom to do whatever in their home country.One of his sons tried hijacking his government,in the end he apologized and was given an appointment by gadaffi.Can an ordinary Libyan try that?,for a country with a small population and abundant oil can it be too much if he deposits 2,000 dollars every month?.

omoekoni:

Libya's problems have just started. There are over 150 different tribes in Libya, and now, they all have guns. there is no way one tribe will drop his weapon for another tribe. Gaddafi was able to hold the country together for 40+ years. Now, an all out civil war is imminent. This is like a replay of what happened in the IRAN revolution.

Howcome NATO is not in Syria, what's happening in Syria right now is worse than what started NATO's intervention in Libya. Hopefully, someday the west will realise that they can't always meddle in other people's country. I can't believe they supported this barbaric rebels. I'm not saying Gaddafi is all that but, this rebels are worse. I expected more from Russia and China, they shouldn't have allowed this to happen, no one else had the power to confront NATO. I feel so sorry for Libya, the worst has just begun. They don't like to see peace in Africa, they know peace in Africa means that we will prosper more than them. Long live Africa!!!

horny4u:

If the wall ( Libya) has no opening the lizard (Nato) cannot get in,

A great leader understands the dynamics of continuation , Libya is not a family ,, it is a nation and Ghaddaffi should have used the democratic method of leadership so there was a free and fair election.


People must vote for their leaders, no point going to sit on the top of a tree where you can see the mountain top only to start feeling like you are on the mountain becos once the tree falls you are back to square one and will have to climb the mountain to see its top.

At least Nigeria is sorting itself out daily, and climbing our mountain small by small, our elections are getting better every time and we are not being run by a single family.

chamber2:

Even though i do not support western invasion of Libya, i think Gaddaffi deserves what he is currently facing. Spending 41 years in power and running the government as family enterprise is tantamount to criminality and despotism. The days of absolutism is gradually withering and smart leaders are turning to democratic principles. people want more than food and money. They want freedom. Freedom to participate in the affairs of their country. Freedom to unlimited and unhindered realisation of their aspirations, both in politics and economy. Freedom to live their private life without unnecessary interference by the government and its cohorts.

Lets face it. Do you think the  Libyan people are fools and don't know what is good for them? If over 90% of Libyans do not support current events do you think they wouldn't have fought back? The truth is, the people are already frustrated with Gaddaffi and his despotic tendencies. They want change and current events coincided with their life-long yawning. I do believe that every political move has an economic underlying. But Gaddaffi paved ways for that. His regime became so unpopular and yet he did nothing to regain his image. Even his own son had earlier suggested that an election be conducted so as to give people the chance to decide their future.

As a person, i want more than mere $500 or 60,000. I want freedom. I want to live my life and participate unhindered in the political process. Yes, Nigeria may not have made much progress economically when compared with Libya, but Nigerians enjoy relative freedom and opportunity to determine, and influence the course of events in their country. The Asian oligarchies and feudal lords should realise that this is 21th century.