segunjowo: Now this is serious isn't it. Even though you sound so myopic in your opinion about God, there are some lessons to be drawn from your points, highlighted. But then, you know that God is a spirit, He lives in you. Thus, you can't see him. But if you immerse yourself in a deep spiritual reflection, you are likely to sense his presence. Forget about church, its been corrupted, long ago! I will only let you into the fact that whatever you do, the God that dwells in you, sees you. You can't hide from your shadow.

Johnokon: Dear Foly. Your situation and predicament is precarious

FOLYKAZE: Since I disclosed my disbelief in God stance, many ranging from neighbours, to friends and lastly family have been kicking against me. I had to speak up my mind because I cant live as person who am not and cant hide forever. On the long run, many have preached and shared the gospel with me. Some were informing me how God love me. Well dont wanna push hard so here are conditions that can make me belief in the existence of God and/or make me convert back to christianity.


1. I want to know God

As a man, I need to contact with the reality of the world through my consciousness. I am aware of the world through sense experience. I make use of the concepts abstracted from my experience of others, I draw conclusions about the world around me. So the only way I can belief in God is if he can be spotted and know with my five sense (seeing, hearing, touching, smelling, and tasting).


2. Miracle

Being thinking of hijacking a sunday service with a loaded pistol. I can just ask the whole church to pray to God for saving their pastor when I point my pistol at his forehead......dont want to go through the thick cuz I might end in jail. Lol.

Anyway since christians believe in bible and it said that through faith mountain can shift it position, we can experiment how prayer miraculously move a little stone. If truely there is God who listen and answer prayer with supreme power, then he should answer prayer warriors request and move the stone at least a metre length. OR since God can make donkey talk, I will want to see and hear my chicken saying 'folyk, why are you tempting God, pls belief'. With this I will belief in God if he display miraculous fit like those mentioned.


3. Filled with Holy Spirit

Yeah. It is said that if we dont want to eat palm oil, we might do because of yam. Holy spirit can manifest in me which will point to the existence of God. I can remember when I was still a christian.......for good 18years, I didn't fall under anointing or holy ghost touch period while my friends roll on ground like person with epilepsy. I didn't speak in tongue, God didn't whisper to my ears, I didn't see vision of hell and no spirit talking to me. My friends can fast for 21 days but I ended up in hospital when I fasted for 2 days.
Why always me? Why cant I be like others who receive sms from demon, fall under anointing, speak in tongue or hear from God. If I should believe in God, Holy spirit should manifest in me so that I can experience divinity presence like my friends.


4. One Universal Church

Different denominations and doctrines in the house of God purged me out of christianity. Obadiah was right when he called me Ashewo.....I read the bible back then and always wish to follow it but always find church doctrines contradicting both other churches pattern and bible. So when I find any contradiction, I divorce the denomination for another. The worst is the multiplying division against self in christiandom........if you want to see the bad part of your church, you need to view it from other churches. Jehovah Witness bashing catholic, catholic mocking protestant, deeper life hating c/s, celestial exposing christ embassy hypocrisy and Redeem forming holier than thou. I worshipped in almost every church is my locality.....but seem they are lying and deceiving self when watched from a separate church.
God call for one body..... When there is this one body, it can prove that yes there is someone who speak and host human race as one body in christ. With this, I can belief in christ which draw God in too.


5. Accessible Gateway

It only in nairaland I know that there is updated spiritual-tech when pastor Jo informed us demon now send text message. Back in sunday school class, we were told that God telephone number is J.E.S.U.S. I grew up to find out that you cant press J when dialing call. The doubt about God existence came through this and other deceptive gospel. When we are million mile apart, I can chat through internet provided there is network. I can ring your line, post you letter and speak physically with you by travelling down. This goes with high profile people yet we are all the creation of God.
If there is a God, I will believe in him if there is an accessible gateway through wish I can communicate with him. Telephone, email account, bbm pin, or heaven transport route leading to him can definately make me believe totally in his existence.


The above are my conditions which will make me belief in the existence of God and convert back to christian.....

- christians....can you make this happen now to quicken my convert?

- heathens....what are your conditions for reconverting? Share pls

DrummaBoy:

You are closer to your redemption than you know it.

Hopefully, by the time you return to the Christian fold, God shall be using you to help the Church attain that new level He wants bring us into.

Your adventure in atheism is for a purpose: I still think atheist are closer to God than many a Christian. That singular fact of truth in the inward part that informs many atheistic profession will lead you to God, eventually.

FOLYKAZE:

lol. If I convert to christian, it only to kick CAN president balls.

When will my conditions tie?

Until then, I dont belief in God

DrummaBoy:

If I had my way, I also will want to kick CAN's President's balls.

That guy is doing more harm to the Christian name than the Devil.

Lol!!

FOLYKAZE:

Go for this only lie in the condition tie.

Accepting deal?

DrummaBoy:

I didn't get the deal. Please explain the bolded in clearer English. Mine is limited...

FOLYKAZE:

i was saying that am converting to christianity only if the above conditions are reached.

You can make it happen or provide linkage? I and some people might need it

1. I want to know God

As a man, I need to contact with the reality of the world through my consciousness. I am aware of the world through sense experience. I make use of the concepts abstracted from my experience of others, I draw conclusions about the world around me. So the only way I can belief in God is if he can be spotted and know with my five sense (seeing, hearing, touching, smelling, and tasting).

Joshthefirst: You would insult God by telling him to come to you on your terms?

Think about it. Who do you think God is? Would you have an image of an all powerful God? If you do, you telling him to come to you on your terms and giving him conditions is pride of the highest order

Anyone can get to God, the gate is open for all. God has his own conditions.
Here they are:

Hebrews 11:6  But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

If you want to know God, you must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who diligently seeks him.

That is the basic requirement for those who want to know God. They must humbly seek him. God resists the proud. He gives grace to the humble

But you see, most times, we don't normally search for God. He, in his mercy, searches for us. He reaches out to us by his power and grace, and changes those who believe in him.

So oga folykaze. If you wanna know God, go humbly, believing that he is, seek him diligently and you will find him.

Matthew 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: 8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

If you decide to seek God today, he will truly reveal himself to you if you seek him diligently. You will surely find him and know him through Christ Jesus if you look for him with all your heart.

Go by his terms.

God bless anyone who decides to open himself to Gods reality today.

Tgirl4real: Hi Folykaze,

Hope you are doing great.

@ Post,

It's the Holy Spirit that saves. Send your conditions to God in prayer.

obadiah777: gaddem heathen smdh

larrymoore: @ I feel u man, for my side, I ve to leave sometin unquestioned or else.

FOLYKAZE:

Elijah man.

What ya saying about the condition above?

obadiah777: the conditions are null and void. you dont choose God. he chooses you.

Ajibam:

exactly, but there might be an urge...

obadiah777: the conditions are null and void. you dont choose God. he chooses you.

DrummaBoy:

Ok. I get it.

Now, I am not promising anything. I am not promising that I can explain God to you. I believe I met the person of Jesus Christ and received Him into my heart some 15 yrs ago. It has been 15 years of up and down, and sometimes I think if I have submitted to forces or experiences along the way, I too could have become an atheist but somehow, my faith in God has remained. I am not too sure of the state of my faith in church people though.

I will begin with your first condition:



A favourite verse in scripture answer this:

1 These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: 2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. 3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent

That is the aim of Jesus Christ's coming: to reveal God to men. And when you know him, you have eternal life. It is as simple as that. Now you have given some conditions for knowing Him. That he must respond to your five senses. I think God can do that. But why don't we open up the matter and not constrain ourselves to the five senses alone. God wants to reveal Himself to you; could it be possible that he has His own condition too? So permit it to be God revealing himself to you in the way He wants and I am sure he would reach you in the way you want eventually.

The process of knowing God is truly profound and I believe it will start with both of us discussing the person of God together. Back and forth. Let us replay life experiences and things we have learnt from them. I am not too vast with atheistic arguments and I would not argue with you. If you attack me, I may just withdraw and find something else to do. But I will always respond to anyone who want to know God in sincerity. Seeing that you have been a Christian before, apparently we can share from a common basis.

So, Folykaze, how do we start? Let me allow you speak in response to this and we will see how it plays on. For now, we are on point 1, remember?

Cheers.

obadiah777: the conditions are null and void. you dont choose God. he chooses you.

Beretta92: Well,f*ck him then.

Beretta92: Well,f*ck him then.

FOLYKAZE:

Moses gave conditions, Gideon too.

obadiah777: they were both not satanists

obadiah777: the conditions are null and void. you dont choose God. he chooses you.