laudate:


Point out the post in this thread where I supported the Yoruba in antagonising the Igbo. You are the one not making sense, because you do not see the Igbo who are always quick to unleash a vitriol of hate against anyone with a different viewpoint.

For example, a person says something like: "the South-South will not support Biafra....". Instead of your folks to educate such a person on the fact that, "different groups make up the SS, and the SS Igbo's support is what matters," ... they jump down the person's throat, insult and vilify him, his clan, his ethnic group and family with the most disgusting, vile epithets you can think of.

Maka, why??

Is that the way to build support for your cause??

SonOfEl:



am not surprised that you keep denying that you're unaware and not a part of yorubas Igbo bashing in NL.

and stop dividing IGBOS with SE/SS geopolitics.

atbu1983:


I do not hate Igbo people. Many of my friends are Igbo. I only hate thier deceit and greed. what is good for the goose is good for the gander.
What we dont want is a dominant tribe simple. If south south join Biafra, that country will be 60% Igbo. How do you think other minorities can compete in that kind of country? Whether we like it or not we both know that Igbo are not diplomatic people by nature. That will lead to complete extinction of other tribe. in less than 50years they will make the whole Biafra Ibo without any consideration.

I dont hate Igbo. But i hate when i know the Biafra they seek is a Biafra with current south south as an appendage to it.

Why cant they support our freedom, and we will support thier freedom. Why do igbo make it look like it is wrong for Niger Delta people to seek thier own freedom outside Biafra? In biafra current south south minority will be like conquered people. God forbid that to happen.

laudate:


Eewo! Who divided who, biko nu??! You chaps are the ones 'dividing' yourselves and others around you, with your hate-filled comments and invectives.

I recall asking you to show me where I was a "part of yorubas Igbo bashing in NL" on this thread. Till now, you have not been able to provide proof. Yet, you are the one that remains unaware of Igbo bashing other ethnic groups.

My own brief is to siddon look, and collect gate tickets from those who want to watch the free-for-all rain of insults, on cyberspace.

And so far, you guys haven't disappointed me. hehehe....

SonOfEl:


I will note what you have posted today for posterity sake. till then......

laudate:


Dem send you?? Why don't you take note of things that would actually benefit you as a person?? Just asking!

laudate:


Ah, you just said 'Shut up there". Another insulting verb. You guys never disappoint me, because dishing out insults is second nature to you. The guy said he was from the SS. Is that a crime? There are different minority tribes in the SS.

Why do you have a problem with that? Ilaje people (i.e. Apoi-Ijaw) are from the SS, just like Itsekiri people. So what is your problem?

Even if he is not from there, couldn't you have pointed it out in a civilised manner?

laudate:


Ah, you just said 'Shut up there". Another insulting verb. You guys never disappoint me, because dishing out insults is second nature to you. The guy said he was from the SS. Is that a crime? There are different minority tribes in the SS.


Even if he is not from there, could
Why do you have a problem with that? Ilaje people (i.e. Apoi-Ijaw) are from the SS, just like Itsekiri people. So what is your problem? n't you have pointed it out in a civilised manner?

patmaine:



Bro lets get one thing straight from ur post.

thr is no ilaje in the south south. rather we 've ijaw in the south west...


Bro lets get one thing straight from ur post.

thr is no ilaje in the south south. rather we 've ijaw in the south west...


Bro lets get one thing straight from ur post.

thr is no ilaje in the south south. rather we 've ijaw in the south west...

SPOTLIGHT ON ILAJE LAND

The Ilajes are a distinguished, distinct linguistic group of the Yoruba stalk made up of four geo-political entities namely Ugbo, Mahin, Etikan and Aheri.

They were said to have left ILE-IFE their original ancestral home/settlement in the 10th century. They mainly occupy the Atlantic coastline of Ondo State of Nigeria while a large population of them settles on land in the hinterland. The area they occupy today remains the Ondo State of Nigeria only outlet to the sea.

ILAJE LAND is bounded by the Ijebus to the West, the Ikale to the North, the Itsekiri to the East. The APOI and Arogbo Ijaw to the North East, while the Atlantic ocean formed the southern boundary. No doubt, the Ilajes are one of the most dynamic and enterprising people in Nigeria. Their aquatic skill, coupled with their high adaptational ability enable them to conquer their hash geographical environment and turn it to a big advantage. Consequently, they were able to build large communities like Ugbonla, Aiyetoro, Zion PePe and Orioke. Aiyetoro for example in it's hey-days had the highest per capital income in the whole land and attracted visitors, tourists and researchers from all over the world especially Europe, Canada, and America.

Apart from petroleum which is largely found in the area for which Ondo State today is recognized as an oil producing State. Other mineral raw materials that are abundantly available in Ilaje land include Glass Sand, Salt, Tar Sand, Quartz and Clay while Agro raw materials include fish, poultry, maize, Palm oil vegetables, Timber, Rafia, Poultry Okro, Cocoyam, Banana, Cassava, and Piggery.

The natural environment of Ilajeland is particularly suitable for the development of large scale Rice plantation and Salt industry.

The occupational activities of the Ilajes include fishing, canoe making, lumbering net making, mat making, Launch building, farming and trading.

Igbokoda, the Ilaje local government headquarters is fast becoming an international trade center as it popular market attracts traders not only from other part of Nigeria, but, also from other African countries especially Togo Benin, Ghana, Cameroon and Gabon.http://ilajeusa.com/History.htm

AROGBO TRIBE

The Arogbo tribe of the Ijaw people live in southeastern Ondo State, Nigeria.

Historically, the Arogbo have had trading contacts with neighboring Ijaw tribes (Apoi, Egbema) and the Ijebu and Ilaje Yoruba. Most Arogbo are bilingual, speaking dialects of both the Yoruba and Ijaw languages. Historically, the Arogbo acted as middle men in the slave trade, selling captives from the interior to Europeans. The Arogbo migrated to their present location from the town of Gbaran in the central Niger Delta. Worship of the god Egbesu is particularly strong among the Arogbo.

The Arogbo are in present-day Ondo State. The founding ancestors of the Arogbo were part of the same migration from Ujo-Gbaran town. After a brief stop at Oproza, led by Perebeinmo they went on to Ukparomo (now occupied by the towns of Akpata, Opuba, Ajapa, and Ukpe). They stayed here for some time, about the length of the reign of two Agadagbas (military priest-rulers of the shrine of Egbesu). They then moved to the present site of Arogbo. From this place descendants spread out to found the Arogbo Ebe. It was from Arogbo that some ancestors migrated northwards up the old course of the Forcados river and settled near the site of Patani. Living nearby in the upland region were proto Edo or Efa people called Erowha. These ancestors later on intermarried with them and gave birth to the Uvwei and Effurun (Efferun or Efferu the ancestor of the Effurun or Ephron was a descendent of Gbaran) sections of Urhobo people.

During the time of the expansion of the Benin kingdom (1550), the Benin invaded Ukoruama (Lagos). The Arogbo sent soldiers to defend the Ijo living in that region. Their army camp became known as Idumu-Arogbo later shortened to Idumagbo.

The Arogbo also successful halted the advance of the Benin army into the western delta and subsequently the whole of the Izon Ibe. The foundation of the Arogbo Ebe is clearly pre-14th century AD. The ancestors of the Arogbo lived at Ujo-Gbaran between 700 – 1100 AD. Along with the ancestors of the Gbaramatu and Tuomo they moved to the Escravos region, while the Arogbo ancestors moved further west. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arogbo_tribe

jellyfish86:
This is not a necessary topic at all because south south is a complex zone which in it self does not have any meaning, hence discussions should be based on ethnic groups making up the zone. If you feel your ethnic group is disposed to biafra, fine stick with your clamour for biafra but if your ethnic group is not OK with it, then face 1 Nigeria. No body should come here and generalize things here as if the whole south south congregated in his house and told him we want or we don't want biafra. It's hopeless to generalize in this modern world where people are informed and have the ability to make opinion for themselves. shikena!!

laudate:


Are you for real??! You obviously have not been to the Ondo State Waterside coastal areas before. Otherwise, you would know that the Ilaje community exists in the South-West. I once worked there for several months, and those folks call themselves 'Ilaje' people. Others lump them together with the Arogbo or Apoi, because they are somehow related to the Arogbo-Ijaw. I don't know the exact details, or nature of their relationship or how it came to be, but the Ilaje is a distinct community in the Ondo state waterside area. Their local govt is Ilaje Ese-Odo local govt area of Ondo State. Educate yourself, please.

ayobabas:


The same thing can be said about Igbos from the SE.
Many of them all over Nigeria would prefer one Nigeria to the repeat of Ojukwu's debacle.
Even without war, half of Igbos or more across the country who are doing well would rather remain one with Nigeria than break up and pack to the SE where majority are traders with no one buying from one another, shortage of food and heavy industries! It is a recipe for disasters!

fr3do:


Who told you that the formation of Biafra calls for all indigenous biafrans to return home?
When Nigeria got her independence from britain, did that happen?

fr3do:


Who told you that the formation of Biafra calls for all indigenous biafrans to return home?
When Nigeria got her independence from britain, did that happen?

xtrorse:


And what are you? Instead of spewing trash online man up and be identified by your ethnic nationality.

Charlatans who have helped to ruin this country and have gained from the injustice in the polity, would still sink as low as denying their own origin in a shameful and disgusting manner, disguising with all sort of antics and lies on Nairaland, in a bid to cow some persons to remain perpetually gullible under their diabolic spell.

Your ploys are well known. Your whims and caprices are dead on arrival!

ayobabas:


You have vomited slime without making any coherent thought but unmeasured insults, which did not address his cogent points.

Typical of your kind!

cheruv:

Since melzabull is on top of sweetlemon matter, I'd now be on top of your own.and I make you this pledge.. That I'd keep on stalking you till you deactivate your account.
Anytime the "we SS.." people show up,I'd use you as my rag to wipe them out.that I promise you and I know that the lord of light,transformer of transformations and the eye that peers forth from the great Nu would help me do it.
Chukwu Abiama has seen this pledge I've made to you and he'd help me keep it

Normality:

Where did you crawl out from?

trapQ:
lmao!! you are just a paranoid schizophrenic. ain't nobody got time for A$$holes dear. you clearly are jobless. and unfortunately I have an "air tight" schedule. keep quoting your ancestors. unlike you, I'm not a loser and won't deactivate my account because of some irrelevant meaningless human whose existence is negligible and hazardous to society and the world at large. your $tupidy is mind blowing

hydroking23:


It's nice to see your ethnic pride. Very refreshing. I don't know if you were referring to me about not revealing my ethnicity but if it makes you feel better I'm Ogoni. You claim the Igbos aren't interested in non-igbos of the SS then why does the rhetoric of all sympathizers claim ALL SS states as representing Biafra. Even in your old dispensation prior to the civil war ALL the SS are included. Your oil deposits are insignificant to say the least. The oil and gas deposits in Ogoni land alone rivals that of your supposed nation state. In Rivers state fringe communities such as Etche and Omuma and Oyigbo deny their obvious igbo heritage. They want no part of Biafra. So don't sit here and act like the Igbos only want the Igbos of the SS. They NEED the entire SS for their pipe dream to even come close to being a reality and unfortunately it ain't gonna happen!

ayobabas:


How else can you resurrect dead biafra if not through force of arms, especially as a huge chunk of them are not even in favour of breaking away and so is the rest of Nigeria?

laudate:


Oh, you still want to continue staying in the same Nigeria that your people call a zoo, after you get your Biafra??!

landinfo:


U remind me of Saro wiwa & Isaac boro.
Wiwa & Boro fought against the Igboz cos they believed in the promise that he would be heavenly compensiated for hiz effortz. One died & the other lived afta the war. Landz belonging to the Igboz were seized & given back to the indigenez.
Saro waz happy but never knew he waz played in the game of chess where he waz a pawn & not a knight, rook or bishop. He later found out too too late that out of hiz father'z inheritance, he waz given only a 0.000000000000000000000001 of what the "least average northerner waz getting" & also he fought solely for the Ogoniz liberation.
Hehehe...it waz so surprising to Saro that "them wey get oyel be.cum slavez to people wey dey live for desert" so to ram, how a stranger go dey chop their own food
Truss the powers that be to shut him up even with the help of the outside world...yes, forget the "so-called" claim of the int'l press or human rightz, they are all cheatz & they know how to play the game of "pretense & hypocrisy"----the whitez know how to pitch a brotha vs another brotha. They have done it countless of timez in Asia, the MiddleEast & Africa is no different.

Few dayz to hiz xcecution, Ojukwu visited him & reminded him that the same people he fought for that made him(Saro) to turn hiz back on hiz friendz are the same people that have not only put him in jail, but are the same people that are about to execute him that week.
For a man like Saro, he would have wished he could turn back the handz of time/clock but it waz too too late for that as they "kpa-kpa-kpa-kpa-kpa-kpa the guy for the world to see hiz shameful passing-on.

The SS is divided into many groupz so it is left for them to decide what each individual groupz want for themselvez.....

@OP,
U were bursted baaaaad.....nex tym, go learn how to impersonate someone b4 they lit the fire on u

Isuata:

Tribe impostors
i would assume based on the info supplied by a user that the OP is claiming a tribe he doesnt belong to to perpetuate a particular view which is evil and violent i have assumed this becos i havent seen any reply from the OP to refute the accusation with the glare of facts brought forward. As a YORUBA Person i would like to say, i'am dissappointed with the person behind the moniker of the OP bringing disgrace to the tribe, and not just that, but it shows the kind of evil mind and anarchist mindset he/she posses. I implore all persons doing this dangerous act to desist as it would only continue to fuel bitter hate posts which derail informative views of the Nigerian people.

@Laudate: in as much as what you are trying to say is true, the OP discredited his/her thread by claiming what he/she is not by extension taking away the credible motive that would have been-this thread.

laudate:


A user made an allegation against the OP, and you believe the user is right??! Do you know how many allegations, accusations and counter accusations are made against people, groups and ethnicities on nairaland, on a daily basis??! Are they all correct? Or they even justified?

Everyone has a username here. Someone just said there is nothing like South-South region. That his own opinion. There are others that claim there is a South-South region, and it comprises the entire Niger-Delta. Again, that is another viewpoint.

I cannot foist a particular identity on anyone. If a person who is from Ilaje in the Niger-Delta for example, comes in here to say he is from the South-South, who am I to claim that he is not?? Ilaje people speak a dialect of Yoruba mixed with Ijaw, and they bear Yoruba names. Their land is part and parcel of the Niger-Delta, which some scholars believe is a part of the South-South region. I am not in a position to accept or dispute that fact. It doesn't matter to me, one way or the other.

I have seen people bear totally English names like Desmond Elliot, yet they are Yoruba people. I have seen others bear names like George Henshaw, Alfred Cookey etc, yet they are Calabar or even Kalabari people. Would I now argue that on the basis of their names, they should actually be classified as foreigners or Englishmen, because their names are British? Would I say because their names are foreign, they should refrain from passing comments on things that affect their Nigerian locality?

My point is this: does a person's identity, detract from the message he is trying to convey?? Does his viewpoint make factual sense? If it does not, why? if a man tells me my clothes are torn, will I ask him what tribe he comes from, first or will I examine the outfit to check if what he is saying, is true?

My grouse is that too many folks on this forum preach hate. They launch insults, invectives, and venomous attacks against people whose messages or comments do not fit their own mindset. And they insult not just the person who disagrees with them, but his family, parentage, ethnicity and background.

If a person disagrees with you, must you drag his family and his ethnic group in the mud??

Why not debate issues clearly and logically, with courtesy using verifiable facts, figures and data??!

Must your viewpoint be the only acceptable one? Must you always decide for others what they should think and how they should think? I believe that one single person does not possess the entire repository of knowledge in the universe. So let the other side be heard, without bias or prejudice. Chikena!

When I first joined NL, I prefered to be a peacemaker. I sat on the fence. I was more interested in learning and exchanging ideas. But then I discovered that my pacifist posture was an excuse for people to launch ad hominem attacks in my direction, so I decided to speak out.

I will never draw first blood, but if you persist in persistently disturbing my peace with foul language, then I will retaliate in the strongest terms. Peace.

fr3do:


When did Nnamdi Kalu become a mouthpiece of the Igbos?
Prominent Hausa-fulani leaders have made very strong anti south statements, but nobody transfers aggression to the common northerner.

Some Igbos don't support Biafra, we must respect that fact.

laudate:


Are you Igbo? Be careful of what you are saying now, because by the time the pro-Biafra people descend on you, you will not find it funny.

Wey my popcorn, biko?

Make I siddon here dey watch...

TVTKOKO:
Anywhere you hear biafra,the south-southern region is involved. I don't knw why these guys from the east are trying to drag us into this biafra rubbish.this is arrant nonsense.If you want to secede, then do it in your region
We would oppose every move by the igbos to force us into this unwanted marriage!


Modified:for those shouting that i'm a yoruba,i am not a kid in anyway to deny my tribe.you can check my previous post. My mum being does not make me one