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Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by felixomor: 4:10pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Lol. U have meticulously killed him 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 4:11pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
damogul: Who told you that a God exist? Humans did. Did any God appear to you personally and told you that he exists? |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by PDBonline: 4:13pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
Oga Seun, Lalasticlacla etc please help me close this thread o. Nobody gave me what I wanted. It's just more questions and arguments and more shifting of the burden of proof despite the fact that I excused those who say they have no claims. Thanks. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 4:14pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
felixomor: Sure we can. That's if you provide objective criteria that each must satisfy so that we know that they are factual and not made up as I stated in my very first comment on this thread. |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 4:14pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
felixomor: Lolz . This is how something is proven . Laconic and perspicuous . So I'm still waiting for the proof God does not exist . 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 4:16pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
dalaman: ironically he has shown me repeatedly and spoken repeatedly and it matched scripture. Where is your proof to your claim? You repeat he does not exist but have nothing to show for that claim besides saying you were once a Christian. Where is your proof dalaman. The way you are dodging is making me think you are elastic in nature. |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by felixomor: 4:16pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
dalaman: Good. So how many fufilled prophecies can the koran put forward? Even koran affirms that the gospel of Jesus is inspired by God. Who affirms the koran? And please dont dodge this one o. |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by LiberaDeus: 4:17pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
NL atheists, In order not to let this christards get away with their lousy claim that you guys can't prove god doesn't exist, I advise you guys come and do justice to this threads. Agnostics have been on the thread for too long I hereby summon the aforementioned atheists Plaetton HopefulLandlord Hahn EyehateGod Joycontramundum Johnnydon22 Seun Lepasharon If it was a thread about disproving the Abrahamic god, I would gladly indulge and dismantle their puerile claims but this is your battle. Don't allow these Christians seem or sound smart as they are trying to, we all know they believe in the most ridiculous things. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 4:18pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
LiberaDeus: You started well but ended imbecilicly. |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by felixomor: 4:19pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
LiberaDeus: Yinmu. |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 4:19pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
dalaman: Big bro , you have passed this type of argument now . Abi haven't I told you about Natural Theology and Revealed Theology ? Natural Theology is knowledge gotten from personal observation of Nature , and through this observation God has been acknowledged to exist. I downloaded an e-book based on Natural Theology . Xenophanes needed no revelation to agree that the greatest of all cannot be born or die (eternal ) . Socrates used teleology to admit that God arranges things for a purpose . All these are personal observations of Nature . Then you move to panentheism which sees the universe as the material manifestation of God . That means even if the universe is eternal , it is part of God as His essence . 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 4:23pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
felixomor: Remember I said I want objective and incontrovertible points. The Koran we are told has some fulfilled prophecies. |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 4:24pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
The fact of this thread is this...Atheists believe in nature and they hold strongly to that which is why they want physical proof of Gods existence from theists. Now we want them to use the same Nature to disprove God. I am sure that something so readily available as nature could easily be used to disprove God but all we have been seeing has been seriously disappointing to say the least. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 4:25pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
dalaman: Dalaman where is your proof aka evidence empirically given that God does not exist. Felixomor I have asked you to stop engaging him till his proof is given. |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 4:26pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
damogul: You beat me to this comment bro . I wanted them to use Nature to disprove God . But they know they are going to fail woefully if they use Nature ,so they keep making irrational and circumlocutory comments . 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by felixomor: 4:27pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
dalaman: Ah, u didnt address all the points now. And u r now using 3rd party voice to say "we are told" I thought by now, u should have searched for God through the entire 2 books by now. U see say na God win? 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 4:27pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
Dalaman et al make an atheist out of me. I want to see your proof to your claims... I also wish to critically look at the God concept so I can make an informed decision. Help me please. |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 4:29pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Bro you are playing football with different balls. When told to provide evidence for the existence of God you can not jump from theism to pantheism and then to diesm. All these are not the same and do not even speak of the same idea of God. As a Christain when ask to provide evidence for God all you are to do is provide evidence for the christian God. Once you bring diesm ad pantheism into the mix then you are no longer talking about the Christian God but some other versions and ideas of God which are totally different from the Christian God. |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by akintom(m): 4:29pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
damogul: You will do well to stop quoting me. It's no use to the least sensible being, to engage you. |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 4:30pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
akintom: Till you provide me with your proof I will regard you as illogical and not an intellectual mind. |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 4:30pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
LiberaDeus: You do realize that there is a massive difference between Religious Skepticism and Atheism . And that religious skepticism has nothing to do with the existence of God . I hope you do realize that . Don't waste our time bro , where is proof the Supreme Being does not exist ? |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 4:31pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
damogul: What part of nature told you that it was created by Yahweh? Where is his signature in nature so that any body that see it will know that he created it? Where is the God that exist without human input? When will you show it to us? |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 4:31pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
dalaman: He only showed you how others came to their God concept. Where is yours? |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 4:32pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
dalaman: Since you do not believe nature can show you God then use it to show me your proof. I am offering you lifelines. Take one. |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by LiberaDeus: 4:33pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
damogul: You entertain me so much. Your character is a priceless spectacle. You are so ungodly |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 4:33pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
dalaman: One God so many concepts . If you study Religious and philosophical propositions you would realize this . This confabulation is based on logic and reasoning . |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 4:33pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
damogul: We say all Gods are man made ideas and as such can not be shown to exist on their own without human input. If you know a God that can be shown to exist without human input point to it. |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 4:34pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Google is being overworked right now as they search for a rebuttal. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by felixomor: 4:34pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
damogul: Lol |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 4:34pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
LiberaDeus:are you godly? |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by LiberaDeus: 4:35pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: I never said no supreme being exists If you do one thing for me I will enter the argument. Just define the supreme being or god. The word is very vague. If you can just define it then I can't enter |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 4:36pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
damogul: Lmaoo . They can't bring up anything worthy . Before it arrives , its going to be smashed into pieces 1 Like |
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