who told you that good grade always make an excellent leader ? How many leader's in the whole world have a good grade ? School grade can't determine a an excellent leader, list things that make a leader excellent and connect them with having good school grade ?

Doriana2:

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They were aristocrats. As children, they were taught at home by the best teachers/governesses of the time. They spent many years studying in their own private libraries, going on excursions to other countries to learn the sciences, politics, philosophy, finances, and languages. Most were very lucky: born into a family of means so one could study without worrying about making a living. Some of them were also brilliant: establishing private laboratories, clinics, libraries, etc. These were the kinds of people who started universities, since you asked.

Very nice

nextstep:


I agree... as to the honourable Senator's talent... I'm yet to see the compelling talent he was hired for leadership.

When great things falls in the dark side people suffer; when esoteric talents are abused, they become criminal.
Robin Hood for instance, is good example of a weird talent channeled at the part of righteousness. So.. in the case of our honorable senator, it's just a pure case of good -gift -gone -bad scenario.

bolethings:
Unfortunately I beg to differ. The greatest scientists never had bsc or PhD,the solution is the IQ, bulk Gates comes to mind.

My brother don't get it twisted, most of you are getting it wrong. Bill Gates and Mark Zuckersberg who are the typical successful drop out examples had top top CGPA even while At school. They dropped out because they had projects they were working on!!

In fact statistics showed that Bill Gates in Harvard was one of the smartest students then.

OP, Go tell Emeritus Professor Wole Soyinka that nonsense. Lest u forget, he is a 3rd class first degree holder. Others are late Chief Gani Fawehinmi, Former Governor Onanefe James Ibori

How about some 1st/2nd class graduates who cannot spell their LGAs correctly? Have seen one (a female).

Please keep certicate as a second criterion.
Instead talk about empty skulls (those that can not deliver).

forget the certificate Dino no dey try

You just showed how shallow your brain is you think because you are a First class holder means you can be a great leader those that finished with first class tell me what meaningful input they have made to this country and the world at large

Doriana2:
The ambiguities involving Dino Melaye's certificate scandal has overwhelmed Nigeria's news space. The pertinent reality that only few people talk about is: Either a senator of the Federal Republic of Nigeria did not graduate from a university or he graduated with an abysmal grade. It is now clear that a major part of Nigeria's  problem is the high number of uneducated and underqualified leaders occupying important political positions. This is unfortunately accompained with a populace that does not seem to care.‎ 
There was a recent thread of a proud third class civil engr Uniben graduate. While we admire the young man's courage to accept his subpar performance in school, we detest the idea that third class graduates should be allowed to occupy sensitive political postions. Nigerians have to realize that: ONLY excellent and qualified employers can make an organization excellent. Political positions should be treated as an important job vacancy and elections should be seen as a serious job interview.  It is because Nigerians don't pay attention to the qualities presented by 'prospective job applicants' and majorly look at tribe, religion or 'Number of Rice Bags shared' that we are in this mess of a country.
Unintelligent people would reply by saying 'Many People with 2nd class and 1st class are not as rich as some with 3rd class? They go on to proffer as an example, a detestable and morally reprehensible creature like Dino Melaye. The obvious answer is 'the ineffectual and unqualified political office holders are the cause of the failed experiment called Nigeria. The high rates of unemployment and wealth inequality are due to exactly leaders of such groups.
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Another class of mentally myopic individuals would cite an example like Goodluck Jonathan, who was a PHD holder but was also mediocre as a leader.‎
The not so obvious ‎answer to this comes in the form of a parable: 'Lack of good tomatoes does not mean we should cook stew with sand'. The fact that GEJ was terrible should spur us on to properly screen our leaders (plus political parties) and request for even better qualities. We should not make the mistake again ‎of selecting someone bad just because average did not work out. 
A country of 180 million people demands someone intelligent and capable to run it. Lives and futures are literally at stake. We should not take the posts of the president and senators as a testing ground for failures in school. A successful organization like first bank will not employ a third class graduate as CEO so why should NIGERIANS accept third class graduates (or complete illiterates) as senators?

FreeSpirited:
That's not the point here.....this is such a myopic view of life, and a product of failed and wasted education on you.

A very idiotic comment. Like I have already told the Op, some brilliant students do come out with 3rd class due to one unforeseen event or the other.

You don't rate such people based on their certificate but based on what they have upstairs.

FreeSpirited:

Everything is not money....That u make the most money does not mean u will be an examplary model in the society...[/qote]And that you make money doesn't mean that you can't be an exemplary model in the society.

Society needs people who can reason and think like human being... People who can support their dreams

And 3rd class holders are incapable of reasoning like human beings?

Can you show me one exceptional thing that you have done to improve the society that the 3rd class graduates cannot do?

FreeSpirited:

not people who are obsessed with money making alone without a trace of humanity in them..think with your brain!!!

Rate people based on what they can do not based what a school wrote for them on sheets of paper.

Your type of person irritates me.

iambijo:
Doriana2
who told you that good grade always make an excellent leader ? How many leader's in the whole world have a good grade ? School grade can't determine a an excellent leader, list things that make a leader excellent and connect them with having good school grade ?

Which leader of the developed world did not do well in school?
China? USA? Germany? Russia? Canada? !which one?

As much as I agree that being a leader is beyond academic excellence, academic excellence is a big plus that you cannot discount, the way some posters are doing here.

See the difference between Buhari and Osinbajo leadership style.
Need I say more?

vedah:
we should get married you know?

I need your father's address lemme talk to him.

Op try and see this Movie called EXAM. U will see your answer there there . is not about been the brightest but the smartest. That movie teach me a lot about life

Doriana2:

I lovve U

your post stinks. You should be ashamed of yourself scumbag. It shows how poorly experiend u re.. Probaby u in one private uni where grades are awarded based on ur financial capabilities. " you are a fool"

akoko11:


Then the constitution needs to be amended.

Yes. She should have started from there before talking about degree

And I'm sure our brothers from the **** may not agree to the amendment

assyn:


Take a look at all the examples you just gave? Are you for real? Third world countries ? and yet you wonder why the developed nations belittle we in Africa. It's really bad to say our educational system needs a total revamp and to get a 3rd class and want to be in political office? Omo. Do you even understand what it means to be a political representative?
Take a cue from developed nations.

For me you need to be well educated (2:1 and above), knowledgeable and fit before you should hold office in Nigeria. Just take a look at Dino's reactions after the whole saga.

the two are fast developing nations not third.......the former President of Brazil did a good job even better than the woman that was impeached.

I think that the OP's ideology is one of the things wrong with this country. A whole lot of facts were not considered before writing this her article. You actually think that the whole world revolves around our certificate. There are things that are not taught in the 4 walls of a classroom. How many 3rd Class graduates do you know? How many 3rd class graduates have you competed with? In terms of leadership, how many 3rd class graduates have you been led by, to make you conclude that 3rd class graduates are not intellectually sound enough to rule. What about the days when we only had monarchs? Were those kings and queens with successful reigns even degree holders? Some folks were not just made for formal or systematic learning.
1. What about a 3rd class graduate that topped his Master degree class that was made up of 2.1 class graduates? Does that nullify the fact that the grade of his first degree was a 3rd class.
2. Can you actually compare a 3rd class graduate of a school like OAU with a 2.1 class graduate of say IMSU (no offence and no pun intended)?
3. Departments vary whether you like it or not, some course are harder than others.

The only way to recognize a 3rd class graduate is by his certificate. If it were to be based on intellect and leadership skills, a whole lot of 2.1 graduates will disappoint you. I sincerely hope that you let your school pass through you and help you to learn that formal education was invented. Please OP, i hope you don't mind me asking for the name of your school.

I bet if king solomon goes to school, He will come out with a first class.

tankoy:


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intelligence comes with humility. Pride however, is ur downfall. Infact, if u are intelligent, thank God i'm not.

Who says intelligence or otherwise determines destiny?

what are u saying now.Nairalanders sha

Op......am happy for u......ur post made front page.....but I totally disagree wif u....its only in Nigeria certificate are Idolized.....trust me......travel to a developed country and see if u will get a Job......u need to sit and think .......dont just post naw, tho its ur opinion but I feel its wrong my sis, good leadership skills cant be judged by education

TonyeBarcanista:
This is rubbish... Why isn't Mugabe the best in the world or even Africa? Your educational attainment is not a certificate of leadership competence....


I'm even doing a full article

My brother it is, don't let let all those motivational bullshit deceive us.
Just one question, please be objective, who is arguably rated or viewed as the top leader in the world? Then go and see their profile.
Lol then why is Mugabe still a president?
Leadership competence can always be taught and learnt.

Doriana2:
The ambiguities involving Dino Melaye's certificate scandal has overwhelmed Nigeria's news space. The pertinent reality that only few people talk about is: Either a senator of the Federal Republic of Nigeria did not graduate from a university or he graduated with an abysmal grade. It is now clear that a major part of Nigeria's  problem is the high number of uneducated and underqualified leaders occupying important political positions. This is unfortunately accompained with a populace that does not seem to care.‎ 
There was a recent thread of a proud third class civil engr Uniben graduate. While we admire the young man's courage to accept his subpar performance in school, we detest the idea that third class graduates should be allowed to occupy sensitive political postions. Nigerians have to realize that: ONLY excellent and qualified employers can make an organization excellent. Political positions should be treated as an important job vacancy and elections should be seen as a serious job interview.  It is because Nigerians don't pay attention to the qualities presented by 'prospective job applicants' and majorly look at tribe, religion or 'Number of Rice Bags shared' that we are in this mess of a country.
Unintelligent people would reply by saying 'Many People with 2nd class and 1st class are not as rich as some with 3rd class? They go on to proffer as an example, a detestable and morally reprehensible creature like Dino Melaye. The obvious answer is 'the ineffectual and unqualified political office holders are the cause of the failed experiment called Nigeria. The high rates of unemployment and wealth inequality are due to exactly leaders of such groups.
‎
Another class of mentally myopic individuals would cite an example like Goodluck Jonathan, who was a PHD holder but was also mediocre as a leader.‎
The not so obvious ‎answer to this comes in the form of a parable: 'Lack of good tomatoes does not mean we should cook stew with sand'. The fact that GEJ was terrible should spur us on to properly screen our leaders (plus political parties) and request for even better qualities. We should not make the mistake again ‎of selecting someone bad just because average did not work out. 
A country of 180 million people demands someone intelligent and capable to run it. Lives and futures are literally at stake. We should not take the posts of the president and senators as a testing ground for failures in school. A successful organization like first bank will not employ a third class graduate as CEO so why should NIGERIANS accept third class graduates (or complete illiterates) as senators?

You are trying hard to sound intelligent but I can tell you have very little mental acuity.

Your reasoning is shallow and your thought processes highly underdeveloped.

If you do not know that academic qualification/intelligence is only but one out of the many types of intelligence reposed in humans then you're a lost cause.

Kondomatic:
A very idiotic comment. Like I have already told the Op, some brilliant students do come out with 3rd class due to one unforeseen event or the other.

You don't rate such people based on their certificate but based on what they have upstairs.
And 3rd class holders are incapable of reasoning like human beings?

Can you show me one exceptional thing that you have done to improve the society that the 3rd class graduates cannot do?
Rate people based on what they can do not based what a school wrote for them on sheet of paper.

You type of person irritates me.

We are talking of leadership you are talking of 3rd class making more money than 1st class......Money making is your own yardstick to measure quality mind that are poised to affect life with their leadership ability?.........Your type with greed for money has nothing to offer a society.......just like the clueless leaders we are having in this country

1st class, 2nd class, 3rd class or even "thanks for attending" doesn't prove any point as far as am concerned... leadership is a quality that is within not what comes with university grades.

Ugosample:


Which leader of the developed world did not do well in school?
China? USA? Germany? Russia? Canada? !which one?

As much as I agree that being a leader is beyond academic excellence, academic excellence is a big plus that you cannot discount, the way some posters are doing here.

See the difference between Buhari and Osinbajo leadership style.
Need I say more?

its a big plus but I tell u.......its not a necessity as u guys take it

assyn:


Take a look at all the examples you just gave? Are you for real? Third world countries ? and yet you wonder why the developed nations belittle we in Africa. It's really bad to say our educational system needs a total revamp and to get a 3rd class and want to be in political office? Omo. Do you even understand what it means to be a political representative?
Take a cue from developed nations.

For me you need to be well educated (2:1 and above), knowledgeable and fit before you should hold office in Nigeria. Just take a look at Dino's reactions after the whole saga.

the two are fast developing nations not third.......the former President of Brazil did a good job even better than the woman that was impeached.
You guys love certificates in this country or maybe some of you here are still in sch,it is way different in reality.......

FreeSpirited:
We are talking of leadership you are talking of 3rd class making more money than 1st class......Money making is your own yardstick to measure quality mind that are poised to affect life with their leadership ability?.........Your type with greed for money has nothing to offer a society.......just like the clueless leaders we are having in this country

What have you offered the society?

Doriana2:

When was the Master's degree awarded? After he has been in the House of Reps for many years! After he has accumulated enough stolen wealth to bribe people in high places! It is obvious from your reply that you still don't understand the post. I feel immensely sorry for you.

Copycat


#u tink we don't know u copied to pass?


hahahaha

there is a difference between IQ and EQ.... u need at least an average IQ to attain academic success, but your EQ determines your ability to lead an organisation...
simply put someone with low IQ and high EQ can be a better leader of a country than someone with high IQ low EQ.... so the issue of 3rd class not holding political posts holds no water

dennisworld1:
Op try and see this Movie called EXAM. U will see your answer there there . is not about being the brithest but the smartest. That movie teach me a lot about life

Mehn that movie is super-dope.
Got many lessons there too

Ugosample:


Which leader of the developed world did not do well in school?
China? USA? Germany? Russia? Canada? !which one?

As much as I agree that being a leader is beyond academic excellence, academic excellence is a big plus that you cannot discount, the way some posters are doing here.

See the difference between Buhari and Osinbajo leadership style.
Need I say more?

what makes a good leader is 1.confidence 2.great ideas 3. Personality. talking bout developed countries leaders with poor grades, united states of america president nixon, bush jr. And joe biden have embrassing high institutions results

Kondomatic:
What have you offered the society?

A stupid question from a shallow mind....... And you expect me to answer

OP pls do me a favour see this movie. No time to argue