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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by Joshthefirst(m): 3:53pm On Jun 06, 2017
sonofluc1fer:

shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked
Sounds wonderful. cry cry cry

So I give my life to Christ and all that is mine?



Hehehe. Enjoy your dreams, Bro. You'll be dead soon anyways..
We'll all die soon, but we'll wake up. I'll wake up to light. Some others will wake up in the company of darkness. I hope and pray that you'll join us in light shaa.

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by Joshthefirst(m): 3:55pm On Jun 06, 2017
dalaman:


You are already thinking foolishly na.
No. You are. And if you were really true to your foolish thinking, you'd realize the futility of a life without direction or purpose or point, and you will embrace the hopeless pointlessness that is your existence and live for nothing, looking forward to death laughing in the face of all of life and sciences and arts and humanities achievements.
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by dalaman: 3:55pm On Jun 06, 2017
Joshthefirst:
We'll all die soon, but we'll wake up. I'll wake up to light. Some others will wake up in the company of darkness. I hope and pray that you'll join us in light shaa.

You'll wake up in Allah's hell. If you escape that you'll reincarnate as a house fly. You won't escape that at all.

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by Joshthefirst(m): 3:58pm On Jun 06, 2017
What do you guys live for sef? If your life truly has no meaning or purpose then it is wicked of you to come online and rob others of meaning or purpose for themselves. Better to let them inhale the so called opium of religion, or better yet, sit with them and get high and laugh with them.
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by Joshthefirst(m): 4:02pm On Jun 06, 2017
dalaman:


You'll wake up in Allah's hell. If you escape that you'll reincarnate as a house fly. You won't escape that at all.
Comparison is no answer. It doesn't change the hopeless pointlessness that is your life. A life without a point, an accidental existence that will eventually be swept up in the eons of so called evolution, culminating in death.

I don't believe you're true to atheism. I have yet to come across one who is.

The truth is there is a higher power that birthed all the is. And as conscious moral beings, we will stand before him one day. He birthed freewill in his love, and shares a relationship of love with many.
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by sonofluc1fer: 4:07pm On Jun 06, 2017
Joshthefirst:


One more thing; If you don't want to be a part of heaven and it's light why do you complain when you're left in outer darkness? Nawa for you o.
On the contrary, I've always been a proud Hell candidate, if that shit exists. grin grin
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by Joshthefirst(m): 4:12pm On Jun 06, 2017
sonofluc1fer:

On the contrary, I've always been a proud Hell candidate, if that shit exists. grin grin
No be poo o. Hell may be a party. You will live forever, and who knows, you may see some buddies. Just that you may have to make your own sun and home, after all you've rejected the one who could make them easily for you...you may also encounter more powerful beings filled with hate for you too, that'd be very bad. I don't know for sure how hell will be, and I don't wish it for my worst enemy. Any life outside of my loving father is hell enough for me.
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by dalaman: 4:13pm On Jun 06, 2017
Joshthefirst:
No. You are. And if you were really true to your foolish thinking, you'd realize the futility of a life without direction or purpose or point, and you will embrace the hopeless pointlessness that is your existence and live for nothing, looking forward to death laughing in the face of all of life and sciences and arts and humanities achievements.

Of course death ends all. Even planets and stars die, so what exactly are you on about? You will live after you die but only that you will live in Allah's hell.
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by dalaman: 4:14pm On Jun 06, 2017
Joshthefirst:
Comparison is no answer. It doesn't change the hopeless pointlessness that is your life. A life without a point, an accidental existence that will eventually be swept up in the eons of so called evolution, culminating in death.

I don't believe you're true to atheism. I have yet to come across one who is.

The truth is there is a higher power that birthed all the is. And as conscious moral beings, we will stand before him one day. He birthed freewill in his love, and shares a relationship of love with many.

You will all stand before Allah and he'll throw you in hell for not believing in him.and his last messenger.
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by sonofluc1fer: 4:15pm On Jun 06, 2017
Joshthefirst:
You will live forever
You greedy fella. Why would you want to live forever? Bitter truth, you won't. You and everyone else you know will eventually die and be forgotten. Life works that way. cool cool

You can believe the lie that you'd be living forever. While there's life, that dream remains valid. Unfortunately, death is as sure as heaven is uncertain. cool In brief, Bleep your beliefs.

And if you need heaven to appreciate life, you never deserved to live in the first place. tongue

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by Joshthefirst(m): 4:16pm On Jun 06, 2017
dalaman:


Of course death ends all. Even planets and stars die, so what exactly are you on about? You will live after you doe but only that you will live in Allah's hell.
If death ends all then there is no point to life and moving forward so stop disturbing me with your meaningless sheet. Wallow in your pointless existence and leave me and others alone to look forward.
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by dalaman: 4:18pm On Jun 06, 2017
Joshthefirst:
If death ends all then there is no point to life and moving forward so stop disturbing me with your meaningless sheet. Wallow in your pointless existence and leave me and others alone to look forward.

Say what you want. You will live after you die but only that you will live in Allah's hell. There is no escape for you.
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by sonofluc1fer: 4:18pm On Jun 06, 2017
Joshthefirst:

I don't believe you're true to atheism. I have yet to come across one who is.
Lol. It's still tough for y'all to comprehend atheism isn't a religion. Or a set of rules. WHat dafuq does true to atheism means? WHat next? Atheist takwas? Blaspheme? YOur minds are so steeped in religion, it's difficult, near impossible for you to comprehend life without those institutions or terminologies. Can't blame you though. You're a Nigerian afterall, where people pray before eating meals and after having sex.

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by dalaman: 4:20pm On Jun 06, 2017
Joshthefirst:
What do you guys live for sef? If your life truly has no meaning or purpose then it is wicked of you to come online and rob others of meaning or purpose for themselves. Better to let them inhale the so called opium of religion, or better yet, sit with them and get high and laugh with them.

What is the meaning and purpose of life that is universally acceptable by all humans?
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by Joshthefirst(m): 4:27pm On Jun 06, 2017
sonofluc1fer:

You greedy fella. Why would you want to live forever? Bitter truth, you won't. You and everyone else you know will eventually die and be forgotten. Life works that way. cool cool

You can believe the lie that you'd be living forever. While there's life, that dream remains valid. Unfortunately, death is as sure as heaven is uncertain. cool In brief, Bleep your beliefs.

And if you need heaven to appreciate life, you never deserved to live in the first place. tongue

Lol. You foolish fella. Why would anyone want to die? My life is worth living, though your pointless life is a huge assault and insult(I'll understand if you want to die), only a wicked one will cause you to take breath and open your eyes to the thrill of living only to end it in pointless nothingness. Your truth is a lie that even you do not believe. Is life a gift then to be appreciated? It is only an accident, a cruel one if what you say is true. Why waste time hustling and looking forward when there is no forward to look to? You, an inconsequential speck in the universe? Do you appreciate life then? What is there to appreciate If you and Hitler and everyone will end up dead and forgotten? If that was life, then i'd rather have not been born.

That is not life. You and I know that. So I'll advise you to empty your foul beliefs, for they take much faith, effort and foolishness to be subscribed to.
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by Joshthefirst(m): 4:33pm On Jun 06, 2017
dalaman:


What is the meaning and purpose of life that is universally acceptable by all humans?
why should it be universally acceptable? When we are all different? When some of us have not yet come in contact with truth? When all of us are free to choose to reject truth?

So because there is no meaning or purpose that is universally acceptable then there is no meaning at all? Try to examine your thinking carefully, examine both sides of the great argument and consider the veracity of your worldview.

If we don't all have universal purpose then there is no purpose
If we don't all have universal rule then there is no rule
Because we all worship different God's then there is no god?

Illogical nonsense.
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by sonofluc1fer: 4:36pm On Jun 06, 2017
Joshthefirst:


Lol. You foolish fella. Why would anyone want to die? My life is worth living, though your pointless life is a huge assault and insult(I'll understand if you want to die), only a wicked one will cause you to take breath and open your eyes to the thrill of living only to end it in pointless nothingness. Your truth is a lie that even you do not believe. Is life a gift then to be appreciated? It is only an accident, a cruel one if what you say is true. Why waste time hustling and looking forward when there is no forward to look to? You, an inconsequential speck in the universe? Do you appreciate life then? What is there to appreciate If you and Hitler and everyone will end up dead and forgotten? If that was life, then i'd rather have not been born.

That is not life. You and I know that. So I'll advise you to empty your foul beliefs, for they take much faith, effort and foolishness to be subscribed to.
Hehehe. I wonder if y'all jack off to thoughts of Hitler, Stalin and all those other Europeans you're so desperately in love with. Eurafrican. grin grin

Oh and yes, life is pointless. You can believe in the after-life, if that gives you a sense of purpose and usefulness. Some of us find purpose and meaning in interactions with other life forms. One doesn't need GOD to appreciate smile, beauty, death, hunger, hardwork, pain, sorrow. That's life.

It's unfortunate you'd never be able to understand that. You're too trapped in your God delusion, you after-life Conqueror. May the Good Lord grant you all the earth you require to rule when we unbelievers are all dead and gone.

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by Joshthefirst(m): 4:37pm On Jun 06, 2017
sonofluc1fer:

Lol. It's still tough for y'all to comprehend atheism isn't a religion. Or a set of rules. WHat dafuq does true to atheism means? WHat next? Atheist takwas? Blaspheme? YOur minds are so steeped in religion, it's difficult, near impossible for you to comprehend life without those institutions or terminologies. Can't blame you though. You're a Nigerian afterall, where people pray before eating meals and after having sex.
Atheism, means a lack of belief in God. A non-belief in God. Such a worldview has implications and consequences, atheist. One of it's implications is that there is no higher purpose or meaning in your life. Death sheets and laughs in the face of all your achievements and aspirations and whatever you do or want to do. There is no point to anything, other than enjoying the cruel existence of life before passing away to dust.

Your mind has never been steeped in critical thought about your belief in unbelief. But I don't blame you.
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by Joshthefirst(m): 4:43pm On Jun 06, 2017
sonofluc1fer:

Hehehe. I wonder if y'all jack off to thoughts of Hitler, Stalin and all those other Europeans you're so desperately in love with. Eurafrican. grin grin

Oh and yes, life is pointless. You can believe in the after-life, if that gives you a sense of purpose and usefulness. Some of us find purpose and meaning in interactions with other life forms. One doesn't need GOD to appreciate smile, beauty, death, hunger, hardwork, pain, sorrow. That's life.


It's unfortunate you'd never be able to understand that. You're too trapped in your God delusion, you after-life Conqueror. May the Good Lord grant you all the earth you require to rule when we unbelievers are all dead and gone.
Now you're beginning to get it a little. Your life is pointless. If your life is pointless then all your fancy purpose and meaning and life forms smiling nonsense is a huge pile of pointless sheet that has no meaning.

I'd rather reside in God-delusion than subscribe to this nonsense. And if you believe life is pointless then stop trying to convert me to your pointless meaninglessness and leave me in my so called delusion.

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by sonofluc1fer: 4:47pm On Jun 06, 2017
Joshthefirst:

Atheism, means a lack of belief in God.
Plus one for using your brain. I know you always had it in you.

Joshthefirst:

A non-believers in God.
Come on, nigga, don't disappoint me.

Joshthefirst:

Such a worldview has implications and consequences, atheist.
Yeah. One implication - I don't believe in your shit. One consequence - I can't believe in your shit.

Joshthefirst:

One of it's implications is that there is no higher purpose or meaning in your life.
Like higher purpose has any meaning. Suicide bombers act according to higher purpose. When dafuq has higher purpose meant good, great or even useful purpose? Stop bringing your 'church grammar' to public forums.

Joshthefirst:

Death sheets and laughs in the face of all your achievements and aspirations and whatever you do or want to do
How? Na wa.. Surely, you know better. Achievements and aspirations can be reached and achieved without carrying the corpse of a dead God on your mind. You know better.

Joshthefirst:

There is no point to anything, other than enjoying the cruel existence of life before passing away to dust.
Life isn't cruel. Life is. Life is impartial, just like nature. Remember those Nigerian Christians bombed to smithereens by Boko Haram years back? Life. The others that were in TB Joshua's collapsed building. Life. I have good friends around me and weed too. I enjoy life. I live life. I take the good and bad parts of it. That's life. Brother, you can't understand while the cross of that Jew weighs upon your skinny black ass.

Joshthefirst:

Your mind has never been steeped in critical thought about your belief in unbelief. But I don't blame you.
Your mind has never been steeped in any sort of thought about anything. African man believing in a dead Jew. You obviously have never looked at a map. Moses thinks for you.

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by sonofluc1fer: 4:50pm On Jun 06, 2017
Joshthefirst:
Now you're beginning to get it a little. Your life is pointless.
Na. I live to whoop your ass at chess.. grin grin

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by Joshthefirst(m): 4:57pm On Jun 06, 2017
sonofluc1fer:
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Like higher purpose has any meaning. Suicide bombers act according to higher purpose. When dafuq has higher purpose meant good, great or even useful purpose? Stop bringing your 'church grammar' to public forums.
higher purpose is simply purpose. A good reason to live or die. To move forward. You have none. Pointlessness.


How? Na wa.. Surely, you know better. Achievements and aspirations can be reached and achieved without carrying the corpse of a dead God on your mind. You know better.
What's the point of achievements and aspirations if there is no purpose or point to existence itself? Why go to all the trouble? Better just spend what time you have smoking pot.


Life isn't cruel. Life is. Life is impartial, just like nature. Remember those Nigerian Christians bombed to smithereens by Boko Haram years back? Life. The others that were in TB Joshua's collapsed building. Life. I have good friends around me and weed too. I enjoy life. I live life. I take the good and bad parts of it. That's life. Brother, you can't understand while the cross of that Jew weighs upon your skinny black ass.


Your mind has never been steeped in any sort of thought. African man believing in a dead Jew. You obviously have never looked at a map.
I understand life much more than you. Notice that all the examples you gave of life are of DEATH. What an irony, what a tragedy. It looks like your beliefs are beginning to Influence your subconscious. The only useful thing you have to look forward to in your meaningless and pointless life is death atheist.

I have hope, joy, and the love and relationship of God that transcends even death itself. That is life and living. I look forward to waking up and making achievements tomorrow, because my actions count both now and in eternity.

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by dalaman: 5:03pm On Jun 06, 2017
Joshthefirst:
why should it be universally acceptable? When we are all different? When some of us have not yet come in contact with truth? When all of us are free to choose to reject truth?


Which truth? Your truth is subjective because it is a lie to another person. What you call the truth is not objective as such can not be called truth at all. Its simply make belief.


So because there is no meaning or purpose that is universally acceptable then there is no meaning at all? Try to examine your thinking carefully, examine both sides of the great argument and consider the veracity of your worldview.


Life has no meaning on its own part from survival. Humans chose to ascribe what ever meaning they want to give to their lives that is why the meaning of life varies from human to human and across various cultures and religions.

If we don't all have universal purpose then there is no purpose
If we don't all have universal rule then there is no rule
Because we all worship different God's then there is no god?

Illogical nonsense.

The purpose of.life is what you chose to make of it, that is why different people ascribe diffrent purposes and meanings to their lives. God is a human creation that is why there are different Gods and religions all created by diffrent cultures and civilizations.

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by Joshthefirst(m): 5:12pm On Jun 06, 2017
dalaman:



Which truth? Your truth is subjective because it is a lie to another person. What you call the truth is not objective as such can not be called truth at all. Its simply make belief.
So there is no truth at all?




Life has no meaning on its own part from survival. Humans chose to ascribe what ever meaning they want to give to their lives that is why the meaning of life varies from human to human and across various cultures and religions.



The purpose of.life is what you chose to make of it, that is why different people ascribe diffrent purposes and meanings to their lives. God is a human creation that is why there are different Gods and religions all created by diffrent cultures and civilizations.
Survival is life's meaning? That's nonsense. What is there to survive for when death is inevitable? What is the point of suffering and struggling to survive a pointless and inconsequential life? Apart from maybe smoking weed if that appeals to you.

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by dalaman: 5:22pm On Jun 06, 2017
Joshthefirst:
So there is no truth at all?

There are truths but religious truth is not one of them because yiur religious truth is a.lie to another person.



Survival is life's meaning? That's nonsense. What is there to survive for when death is inevitable? What is the point of suffering and struggling to survive a pointless and inconsequential life? Apart from maybe smoking weed if that appeals to you.

Survival is the only meaning life has by default. Nobody wants to die and everybody strives to live another day if they can. Any other meaning and purpose of life is a human creation that is why meaning and purpose varies across variius cultures and religions. Life has no universal meaning and purpose you can point to because it doesn't exist. All that exist is the meaning and purpose you chose to give your life.
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:56pm On Jun 06, 2017
Joshthefirst:
We'll all die soon, but we'll wake up. I'll wake up to light. Some others will wake up in the company of darkness. I hope and pray that you'll join us in light shaa.

He is daddy's boy . You don't expect sonofluc1fer to wake up to light , daddy needs his company smiley

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by JackBizzle: 3:30am On Jun 07, 2017
Joshthefirst:


One more thing; If you don't want to be a part of heaven and it's light why do you complain when you're left in outer darkness? Nawa for you o.
You don't want heaven, so stay away from it and don't complain. You and jackbizzle can dance around in meaningless futility or dark silence for all eternity nau. cheesy


You are only a christian because you fear hell and greedily want to enjoy the riches of heaven.

Remove hell and heaven and you will dump christianity.

Your delusions are not attractive to rational people

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by PastorAIO: 8:58am On Jun 07, 2017
felixomor:

God is a Judge.
It is the work of a judge to repay evil with evil.
Its called justice.
The evil you highlighted there comes after people commited evil and abominations they were commanded not to.

But unfortunately, you wont read those verses before it.
Why?, because you simply read the bible because of argument.

So God repented from justice.

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by PastorAIO: 9:00am On Jun 07, 2017
felixomor:

Their death was done to wipe out the names of their parents who chose to disobey God.
They were warned before hand.

Besides, Babies dont have souls that are eternally liable.
So when they die they go back to their maker.

ooo, I love it when I run into another bit of made up doctrines. Please, what is the basis of this claim?

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by PastorAIO: 9:05am On Jun 07, 2017
felixomor:


That was the agreement they made with God.
It was simply terms and conditions.
Or you dont know what "terms and conditions" mean?

Go read it.

The babies were killed because of the agreement between who and God? Did the babies have agreement with God? Or their parents?

So if I make an agreement with Johnny and use your head for collateral that would be okay abi? If I tell Johnny, 'It's okay I will pay you tomorrow, if I don't you can hold Felixomor and send him to prison.' Does that make sense?

Is that fair to you if Johnny comes to grip your neck tomorrow because I didn't pay him?

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by dalaman: 9:05am On Jun 07, 2017
PastorAIO:


So God repented from justice.

I tire oo.
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by felixomor: 10:08am On Jun 07, 2017
PastorAIO:


The babies were killed because of the agreement between who and God? Did the babies have agreement with God? Or their parents?

So if I make an agreement with Johnny and use your head for collateral that would be okay abi? If I tell Johnny, 'It's okay I will pay you tomorrow, if I don't you can hold Felixomor and send him to prison.' Does that make sense?

Is that fair to you if Johnny comes to grip your neck tomorrow because I didn't pay him?

Are u trying to play emotional games after an agreement .
If i seize your house and company after u refused to pay an agreement loan, is it ok?

Answer that question, u will get the answer to ur question.

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